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VOL,. LVIII NO. 18,121.
PORTLAND, OREGON, SATURDAY, DECE31BER 21, 1918.
PRICE FIVE CENTS.
RED BLOWS AT HUN
E
Moderate Socialists Re
fuse to Be Stampeded.
ATTACKS ARE SIDESTEPPED
Soldatenrat Shunts Demon
strators to Committee Room.
INDUSTRIAL PERILS NOTED
Bolshevik Groups Keep TTp Agita
tion to Give Impression Xbat the
Government Has No Stability.
BY ARSO DOSCH-FLEUROT.
Copyright by the New York World. Pub
lished by arrangement.)
BERLIN. Dec. 20. (Special Cable.)
On the third day of the Arbeit'er Sol
datenat National Congress it is clear
that the moderate Socialists, who con
stitute the majority, have no notion of
letting the filibusters of the independ
ent minority stampede them. They will
doubtless remove the executive central
committee, which was appointed by tha
troops happening to be in Berlin at the
beginning of the revolution, and sub
stitute a new executive committee
which will represent the present con
gress. So far; the Vollzugsrat, the present
executive committee, has been steadily
attacking the Government, partly for
the purpose of keeping their own jobs
and partly because they are more radi
cal than those in control, but the ma
jority of the congress is with the gov
ernment and has tolerated the Voll
zugsrat in it3 personal attacks on
members of the government and in the
succession of demonstrations which
have been arranged with the view of
stampeding the congress.
Committees Handle Demonstrator.
There was another demonstration
today, much smaller than that of two
days ago. The congress has learned
how to handle such affairs" by simply
turning over each bunch of demonstra
tors to a- special committee, thus clear
ing the "way for regular business.
The fight for a national assembly,
as opposed to class soviet rule, began in
the Workmen's and Soldiers' congress
at the moment the disturbing demon
strators gave up hope of disrupting it.'
The date for the' constitutional ' as
sembly has been fixed for January 19.
The independents of the left wanted to
put it off as long as possible and really
never hold it at all, but to develop the
revolutionary spirit in' Germany to a
point where it would accept societ gov
ernment. As the congress is consti
tuted, however, it. is against delay. The
Russian revolution did one good thing
for. Germany it made its 'issues clear.
Soviet Kale Feared.
Everybody in Germany knows that a
Soviet rule is an open class war ending
In Bolshevism. It cannot be camouflaged
a. second time as it was in Russia. So
the present congress has been com
pelled by the sentiment of the entire
countryto refrain from interfering in
a constitutional assembly. The country
he nly otlier road leads to Bo1" !
The present congress gets Its influ-
ence largely from non-interference on
the part of the non-Socialists of Ger-
many who are willing to permit the sol- (
uiers ana worKmen to arrange for an
assembly provided they do it and sup
port the government. -.
The Bourgeoise support the govern
ment because they know that while it is
Socialist, it is bound to hold a demo
cratic national assembly.
It need not be supposed that the
Spartacus group and the left inde
pendents are at the end of their rope.
In their attitude against the majority
they are under restraint, however, for
even in revolutionary Germany the ma
jority sees a better idea of Its rights
than the Russian soviet ever had. In
fact, the Arbeiter Soldatenrat contains
a fair representation of soldiers and
socialistic workmen and has given
them patient hearing, which the Rus
sian soviet never did. German tendency
toward democracy seems sufficiently
strong to keep the minority from win- j
ning by mere snouting. Danger from
the Spartacus and other Bolshevik
groups here is along industrial lines.
Ked Seek to Cause Trouble.
Germany Is on such fine edge in
many ways that it has all it can do
to maintain its industrial programme,
even without other troubles. Purposes
of the Bolshevikl are so obvious, after
the third day of the congress, that I
need only recall how they ' filibustered
in the Russian soviet in the Kerensky
regime through an entire Summer, to
see what the filibustering here means.
They may be counted on to make all
trouble possible and to impede in every
conceivable way the progress of the
congress, which Is designed to prepare
the way for a constituent assembly.
It is up to the Bolshevik! to menace
the government .ontinually a.-.d to give
the impression abroad that there is no
stability in the government. The chief
purpose in such tactics is to keep the
entente from coming to peace terms
or even to open the way for peace, be
cause the Bolshevikl do not wish peace.
They wish Gei.nrny to break urdex the
present strain so that they ,nay jump
in and break It completely, thus ad
vancing by another step their aim for
a revolution of the proletariat through
out the world.
0
HNMENT
VAN
FAWNING HUNS TRY TO
SPLIT U. S. AND ALLIES
FULSOME PRAISE IS SnOWERED
OX TAXKS IX GERMAXX.
Powerful Propaganda Launched
Sow Discord Between United
States and Entente.
to
BY JAMES M. TUOHY.
(Copyright by The New York World. Pub
lished by Arrangement.)
PARIS. Dec 20. (Special Cable.) A
French official who has Just returned
from the zone of American occupation
In Germany says a tireless German
propaganda is in progress to under
mine the harmonious relations of the
allies by pretenses of effusive grati
tude and good will toward the Ameri- j
can troops, in sharp distinction from
the German attitude toward the French,
British and Belgians.
Everywhere ar heard German pro
fessions of regret and indignation that
America was brought into the war.
The propagandists say they never had
any quarrel with the Americans, and
have always felt friendly toward then.
These professions Induce only quiet
and Incredulous amusement among the
Americans, who do not forget the Lusl
tania or the German sneers which pre
ceded the appearance of American
troops in the field.
American soldiers after their recent
experiences in living amid the devasta
tion "and squalor of ruined French
towns and villages appreciate the com
forts of life In Coblenz and other pleas
ant German towns, and they avail them
selves freely of them, but their rela
tion's with the Inhabitants are regulated
strictly by Army orders.
HUNS LOSE 'TWO MILLIONS
War Casualties "Appalling," Ac
cording to Cologne Paper.
NEW YORK, Dec 20. When the to
tal German casualties are published the
number of dead will be about two mil
lion, according to the Cologne Gazette
of November 25, a copy- of which has
been received here. Up to October 25
the total casualties- reported were
6,066,769, of whom more than 4,750,000
were Prussians.
The Cologne paper uses the word ap
palling In describing the casualties
among the officers. The total on Octo
ber 24 included 44,700 officers killed,
82,460 officers wounded and 13,600
missing, a total of 140,760.
SENATE TO HAVE HOLIDAY
Recess to Begin as Soon as War Rev
enue Bill Is Passed.
WASHINGTON, Dec 20. Plans for a
Senate holiday until January 2, without
formal suspension, but by a three-day
recess agreement for transaction -of
routine business only, were completed
today by the Senate Democratic steer
ing 'committee.
The recesses will begin as soon as the
war revenue bill is passed, probably on
Monday. The House is expected to adopt
a similar schedule.
SONGS TO CHEER SOLDIERS
Margaret Wilson to Visit American
Troops Abroad.
PARIS, Dec. 20. Miss Margaret Wil
son, daughter of the President, has left
Paris for a" concert tour of 30 days
among the American troops In the vi
cinity of Chaumont, where American
headquarters is located. She is planning
to sing on Christmas day at Gondre
court, In the Meuse department, in the
same region where President Wilson
will dine with the American soldiers.
JOBS SECURED FOR 84,284
,. . . . ,
Report Issued on Work in Behalf of
Discharged Soldiers.
WASHINGTON, Dec 20. In its first
report on the part it is playing In re
storing war workers and discharged
soldiers to peace-time industry the
United States Employment Service an
nounced today that during the week
ending December 7, Jobs were found for
84,284 applicants who registered. I 4
Women registrants numbered 17,350
and of these 13,054 were placed.
300,000 BOYS DISCHARGED
Secretary Baker Reports on Rate of
Demobilization.
WASHINGTON, Dec 20. Well
over 1 T
300,000 soldiers have been discharged
from the Army and returned to civilian
status. Secretary Baker said today the
rate of demobilization had now reached
150,000 a week and that the War De
partment was pressing its efforts to
make the average daily discharges 100
per camp.
FRENCH LOSSES 1,400,000
Lucien Voilin Makes Announcement
in Chamber of Deputies.
PARIS, Dec 20. French soldiers -"to
the number of '1,400,000 were killed
during the war. according to a state
ment by the Socialist Deputy. Lucien
Voilin, in the Chamber of Deputies this
afternoon.
The announcement was made during
an interpellation of the government on
demobilization.
DANZIG GERMANS PROTEST
Annexation of City Dy Poles Meets
i
"With Opposition. "
AMSTERDAM, Dec 20. German
residents of Danzig held a mass meet
ing there Thursday to protest against
annexation of the city by the Poles.
Governor von Jagow, of Posen, it Is
reported from German - sourc.es, has
sent a wireless message of protest to
President Wilson.
BRITON CULLS FOR
OPEN PEACE PACTS
i
Official Secrecy Is De
nounced by Northcliffe..
ATTITUDE ALARMS EDITOR
Rumors That Parleys Will Be
Behind Closed Doors Heard.
PUBLICITY DEMAND
MADE
r
Englishman Says Government Pays
Xo Attention to People's Call to
Know What Is Doing.
PARIS, Dec 20. (By the Associated
Press.) Lord Northcliffe, chairman of
the London headquarters of the British
mission to the United States, who is
visiting Paris, today gave the Associ
ated Press the following statement re
garding his Ideas as to the need of open
diplomacy in conducting the peace ne
gotiations so that the people may know
what is going on:
"Nothing can be worse for the pros
pects of the coming conference." said
Lord Northcliffe, "than am atmosphere
of secrecy and half truths.- Yet. up to
the present, there has been no official
statement that the momentous meet
ings about to take place will be held
in accordance with President's Wil
son's expressed views on the question
of open diplomacy.
Peril Seen In Secrecy.
"The days of secret conclaves are
dead and gone. Clandestine assem
blies are the harbingers of intrigue,
suspicion and possible deception. It
would be intolerable that the fate of
whole ' nations great and small
should be decided In secret. Shall the
destinies of millions of peoples in all
quarters of the globe be left to the
tender mercies of a comparative hand
ful of delegates, against whose enact
ments there is no public appeal? Such
would be mockery of that principle of
self-determination of free nations
which has been fought for and won in
this war.
"Labor, . upon -which ther great losses
of life during the war have mainly
fallen, is alarmed at the prospect of
great world plans being carried out
without its knowledge. ' It is reported
from London that the Labor party has
sent a. strong protest to our govern
ment, which, so far. has done nothing
to allay public anxiety on the subject.
"The British press and people may
be relied upon to support fully the
President's enlightened expressions of
opinion as to the need of publicity at
the momentous meetings expected to
begin in Parts on January 6. Surely
the' world has suffered enough from
secret diplomacy to realize that me
diaevalism of that kind Is totally in-
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lire 1. Column 2.)
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Official Casualty- Report.
WASHINGTON. Dec 20. Casualty
lists given out today cpntain S784
names: 124 killed, 82 died or wounds, 27
of accident (one aviator) 25J of disease,
1803 wounded severely. 1408 degree un
determined. 1798 slightly and 289 miss
ing. Following Is the tabulated sum
mary today, including the above:
Deaths Reported. Todav TotaL
anuea m action. ..... 2ti,su4 14
J.ol al - ;t6 ...
Died of 'wounds ...... 30,364
Died of disease 15.1'US
Died of accident 2.070
82
2r.a
1:7
486
2-U
10.446
J5,i.'.l
2.09;
Total deaths 54.332
Wounded ............ St. 212
Missing: and prisoners ld.tftfg
6.1.418
JO1.310
16.!t7
Total casualties.... 107.02J
OREGON.
B.7S4 173.706
Killed li
action
Loop, Robert C-. Amity. Or.
Lied of wounus
Solhauni. Jens J. tCpl..: Jt. C. D. McCon-
way, city Hall, Portland. Or.
Culbertson, John II., Clatakanie. Or.
Diet! of Arcident
Schullheis, Ci. i... lilllsboro. Or.
Died of disease
Welshona. Kenneth M. (CpL). Condon. Or.
Brill, J. L. La Grande. Or.
Wounded, severely
Dalbrol. Jack, tit. Helens, Or.
Franclscovich. Cosmo A.;' Mrs. Sarah Fran
clscovich, U67 Belmont street, Portland.
Suomy, John (Mech.); William Sllfer, 188
Skidmore street, Portland.
Richeson. Austin B. (Major); Mrs. Alice M.
Rlcheson, Portland.
Weber, V. O., The Dalles. Or.
I'letroSc, P. B., Stayton, Or.
Byrnes. Krroil V.; Sam Goodman, 209 Morri
son street, Portland, Or.
Starrett. Clare H.; Mrs. Kllen W. Starrett.
40H5 Southeast Seventy-first street, Port
land. Or.
Daly. Alonzo. Mill City. Or.
Krickaon. J. E.. Fairvlew, Or.
Bogges. Clinton E. ; Mrs.- Mary Bosses. 1158
Commercial street, Portland, Or.
Nelson. George P.: Mrs. C. Nellson. 509
Sixty-third street Northeast. Portland. Or.
Card well. Fowler C. Hathaway: Mrs. Helen
Ihebaud. care B. S. Huntington, attorney,
810 Lewis building. Portland. Or.
Burgard. John C. ; John H. Burgard. 819
Hillcrest drive. Portland. Or.
Wounded, degree undetermined
Madison, Harry F. ; Mrs. Evada Madison.
St. Clair Apt., Portland.
Hodder. George J. (Cpl.): George Joseph
Hodder, 6320 Twentieth street North,
Portland.
Ashby, Clyde J., Eugene, Or.
Hogue. A. H., Ashland. Or.
Culp, Wlllsur (Sgt.). Merlin. Or.
Amala, Henry G.; Mrs. Maria-C. Amala, 881
Depew street. Portland, Or.
Armstrong. F. S.. Aurora, Or.
Webber. George W. : Mrs. Ella -Webber, 4.S
East Burnside street, Portland. Or.
Lindgrsn. E. V"., Millvllle, Or.
Finke. Bernard. Siletz. Or.
Wounded slightly
May. Thomas E. tLt.).- Grass Valley. Or.
Anderson, Otto W. (Cpl.): Mrs. k C. An
derson. 42 Roselawn avenue. Portland.
Boss. Charles A. (Lt.); Mrs. Helen Elaine
Hoss. 728 Belmont street, Portland.
Marlon. R. L... Goble. Or.
Tate. E. A., Ashland. Or."
Matin. George: Mrs. T. Harris. 804 East
Sixth street. Portland, Or.
WASHIXUTOX.
Killed In action
Bruce. John P., Everett, Wash.
Reynolds. E. C. (Cpl. J. Vancouver, Wash.
Died of disease
rook. Howard O. (CapL). Washington.
Kenny, Henry J. Lt. . Washington.
Klynn, Leo. Tacoma. Wash.
Wounded severely
Lewin, Lester L., Seattle.
pasato, Alfonso, Danville. Wash.
McCartney. Harry M. (Pgt.-MaJ.), Seattle.
Fellows. J. H., Seattle. Wash.
Miller, A. H., Belllrigham. Wash.
Armstrong, G. B.. Wenatchee. Wash.
Salmela, C. L.. Brush Prairie, Vtaab,
Aberg. J. Doe Bay, Wash.
(iates Hlle, Battle Ground. Wash.
Dlil,' I var, Tacoma," Wash. -
Brlngham. V. L.. Tacoma, Wash.
Fagerholm, Amos. Port Stanley, Wash.
I.emley. O. L.. Rosalia. Wash.
McDonald. James, Everett. Wash.
Keegan, Lawrence, r-'pokane. Wash,
Owen, Clinton, Yakima. Wash.
Tutino, LungfT Sultan. Wash.
Crurob. A. J., Trinidad, Vv ash.
Harrison, Harvey, Seattle, Wash,
Huntington, R. C Tenlno, Wash.
Johnson. K. M.. Tacoma, Wash.
Wounded, degree undetermined
Reld, Charles. Sellook, Wash.
Bliss, Ralph D.. Zella. Wash.
Staeeter. Byron O., Seattle. 1
Ford, A. E.. Porter. Wash.
Nicholson. F. D.. Seattle. Wash.
Norellus. John R-. Vancauver, Wash.
Nowakowski, P. H., Kennydale, Wash.
Wounded slightly
Piatt. R. G, lone. Wash.
Amyes, Joseph P., Seattle.
Lemay. Joseph J.. Seattle.
Dunkeiberger. William A., Olympla.
(Continued on Page 10.)
MORE DAYS FOR THE ABSENT -
J WWm7f'J? W JfK. . y0-- y , I : I
MERCY
CANIPA GN
IS NOW IDE OPEN
Mighty Drive for Full Mem:
bership Launched.
SUNDAY TO BE NO EXCEPTION
"The Better the Day, the. Bet
ter the Deed," the Cry.
SOLDIERS TO GO TO CHURCH
Multnomah Gnard Called "to Arms'
and in Peaceful Assault Will
'Aid the Red Cross.
ATTENTION'!. MULTNOMAH
GUARDSMEN!
General orders. No. 91.
1. Field, staff. non-commissioned
staff, machine gun com
pany, transportation company,
supply company and companies
A. B. C, D. E, P. G and H will as
semble at the Armory at 8 A. it.
Sunday, December 22.. 1918, to
answer the call of the Red Cross
in its membership drive.
2. All officers will assemble at
the Armory at 8 P. M. Saturday,
December 21, 1918, for instruc
tions and material.
By order of Colonel Campbell.
CAPTAIN R. C. DOLBIN,
Adjutant, Multnomah Guard.
The mightiest drlveof the Red Cross
membership campaign will be launched
this morning, to know no cessation un
til Monday night shall proclaim the
close of the Christmas rollcall and the
completion of Oregon's duty.
Thrown wide open to campaigning,
without restrictions as to territory,
Portland will witness several, new
features In the drive eleventh-hour ex
pedients that are counted upon to wipe
out the deficit of the past few day's
and place the city or. the straight path
to certain victory. -
State I.eada Portlaad.
Last night's totals, as compiled by
Auditor O. "B Borlxmeyer, of the city
campaign, and Stata Manager Witham.
give the entire state a total of 140,738
memberships, with 75,000 In the outer
state districts and 65,738 enrolled In
A Portland. Estimates on Oregon's full
auty in tne a rive, wnne not in the
nature of a quota, fix the goal at 400.
C00. Today In Portland the campaign will
be entered by 100 soldiers of the Spruce
Division, assigned to- Red Cross duty
by Brigadier-General Disque, who will
aid in the business district canvass, and
by the members of the Red Cross Can-
(Concluded oti Page 5. Column 1.)
MINDED MAN.
CHRISTMAS TURKEYS
BRING RECORD PRICE
41 CEXTS, WHOLESALE, QUOTED
AT ROfEBCRG.
Dealers Report Demand for Five
Carloads, With Supply Far
Below That Number.
ROSEBCRG. Or.. Dec. SO. (Special.)
For the first time in the recollection
of anyone here. Christmas turkeys sold
in the wholesale market today for 41
cents a pound. This remarkable price
wa produced by a scarcity of birds
and keen competition among buyers.
Contractors who had agreed to up
ply the Government with large num
bers of turkeys were depending on
thia county for a good share of the
birds, it was alleged. It becoming ap
parent that there was a shortage, ow
ing to the fact that farmers had sold
short during the Thanksgiving season,
lured by the high prices at that time,
bidding became lively this morning.
The market opened at 38 cenfs, but
within an hour jumped to 40 cents, and
then to 41 cents, the latter figure being
paid only for extra choice birds.-
There was a demand for five carloads
of dressed turkeys at 40 cents, one
buyer alleged, but gave It aa his opin
ion that probably not half the number
could be secured in the county.
BABIES DIE BY HUNDREDS
Starving Mothers In Vienna Wrap
Infants in Newspapers.
I LONDON. Dec. 20. Serious conditions
in Vienna because of lack of food
among the exiles there are reported by
the British mission to prisoners of war
In Austria, now in the Austrian capital.
according to a Vienna dispatch.
Starving mothers in the Austrian ca-
ital are unable to obtain milk for their
children and the babies are dying by
hundreds, the message says. The moth
ers are also without swaddling clothes
for their infants and are obliged to
wrap them In rags or even newspapers.
WOOL ARRANGEMENT MADE
Provision Secured for Reimburse
ment to Growers.
WASHINGTON, Dec 20. Charles J.
Brand, chief of tfce Bureau of Markets,
Department of Agriculture, has been
named by Chairman Baruch to direct
the work of the wool section of the
War Industries Board, which will not
have been completed when the board
dissolves January 1. His chief task
will be to adjust reimbursement to
woolgrowers of differences between
the Government price to the dealer and
the price received by the grower.
"Y" HUTS WILL ENTERTAIN
V. M. C. A. Plans Christmas Cele
bration for Soldiers.
NEW YORK. Dec 20. The Young
Men's Christian Association announced
here today that 80.000.000 cigarettes
would be given away to the men of
the American expeditionary force at
the Christmas tree celebrations In 1SO0
"Y" huts, together with 4.000.000 choco
late bars. 2.000.000 tins of smoking to
bacco and 2.000.000 packages of chew
ing gum.
COMPANY PASSES DIVIDEND
Chicago City Railway Head Blames
Increased Wages.
CHICAGO, Dec. 20. The Chicago
City Railway -Company today passed
its dividend for the first time since
dividends were initiated in 1S70.
President JU A. Busby, in a state
ment, said the company is losing 112.
000 a day because of Increased wages
ordered by the War Labor Board and
the advanced cost of supplies.
INDEX OF TODAY'S NEWS
The Weather.
YESTERDAY'S Maximum temperature, -40
degrees; minimum temperature. 40 de
srees.
TODAY'S Pair
winds.
colder; northwesterly
War.
Official casualty list. Page 1.
Forela-n.
Red blows at Hun Kovernment vain. Pare 1.
Hlndenburir believed to be behind counter-
revolutionaiy movement, i'aire 6.
Huns seek to split United States and allies
Page 1.
Wisdom of "Wilson's course lauded. Page 2.
Right of self rule sought by Russia. Page 2.
Hun propaganda in land occupied by Amer
icans checked. Page 3.
Wilson confident peace conference win be
harmonious. Page 1.
Lord Northcliffe calls for open peace dis
cussions. Page 1.
National.
Fair deal between nations necessary to peace,
says Vice-President. Page 4.
Rivers and harbors bill carries several Ore
gon projects. Page 17.
Senator Reed irritated by exposures of
Hearst. Page Is.
Domestic.
Army transports bring back nearly 10.000
soldiers. Page A.
Socialist leaders testify in their own defense.
Page 9.
Sports.
Pasadena committee insists that Marines
play Balboa Park today. Page 16.
Secretary of boxing commission seeks op
ponent for McCarthy. Page 16.
Pacific Northwest.
Regular Army Colonel at Camp Lewis
charged with irregularities. Page 8.
Silver Lake murderer to hear sentence Mon
day. Page S.
Roseburg turkeys quoted at 41 cents whole
sale. Page 1.
Commercial and Marine.
Government wool auction shows downward
trend of prices. Page 21.
Corn firmer at Chicago, owing to delayed
movement. Page -I.
Stock prices continue to decline in Wall
street. Page 1.
Wood shipbuilding plants not . to observe
baturuay half holiday. Page 17.
Portland and Vicinity.
Campaign of mercy now wide open. Page 1.
Weather report, data and forecast. Page 21.
Posters to aid Portland "Own-Your-Home"
campaign. Page IT.
' Flour milling back to pre-war status. Page 11.
Soldier aged by four years of mar. Page IS.
I Citlsens asked to entertain soldiers. Page 6.
Lawyers strike at Bolshevism. ,Tage li.
JUSTICE WILL BE
DONE, SAYS WILSON
President Is Confident of
Righteous Peace.
NO "BOSSES" AT VERSAILLES
Evils of Vienna Congress Not
to Be Repeated.
PEOPLE'S WILL TO PREVAIL
Co-operation of Allies Is Assured
and New State of ATfalrs In
World Promised.
PARIS. Dec. 20. "I am confident that
the big council of statesmen of the
world will be able to reach a Just and
reasonable solution of the problems
that will be presented to them, and
thus earn the gratitude of the world
for the most critical and necessary
service which has ever been rendered
it." said President Wilson today In an
interview, referring to the approaching
peace conference.
The interview was given to the cor
respondent of the London Times. In it
the President is reported to have stated
his views on the discussion of the free
dom of the seas and to have contrasted
the evils of the Vienna congress with a
hopeful outlook for the Versailles con
gress. Lord Northcliffe. editor of the Lon
don Times, has given the Associated
Press a copy of the interview from
which the following extracts have been
made:
No "Boaaea" at eraallles.
The Congress of Vienna, the corre
spondent says President Wilson told
him, was a congress of "bosses." The
delegates were concerned more with
their own interests and the classes they
represented than the wishes of their
peoples.
"Versailles. as President Wilson
said." the interviewer continues, "must
be a meeting place of the servants of
the peoples represented by delegates,
and he added: There is no master
mind who can settle the problems of
today. If there is anybody who thinks
he knows what is In the mind of all
peoples, that man Is a fool. We have
all got to. put our heads together and
pool everything we have for the benefit
of the ideals which are common to all."
llrltlnh vr Alauranrr.
"Asked whether he would visit the
grand fleet. President Wilson replied
that he was afraid he would not have
j time, adding that he fully realized that
ueniim mc great armies mere was the
strong, silent and watchful support of
the British navy in securing the com
munications of the allies.
"He referred also to the happy com
radeship and co-operation between the
British and American navies."
The correspondent then adds:
"President Wilson, in discussing the
role of the. British fleet in the main
tenance f what, at any rate during
the war. had been the freedom of the
seas for the free people of the world,
spoke with a sincerity which no amount
of writing can convey. His accounts
convinced me that he is a believer in
the decency and honesty of the Anglo
Saxon race. I re said:
Frank Co operation Vrgrd.
" 'It is essential for the future peace
of the world that there should be the
frankest co-operation and most gen
erous understanding between the two
English-speaking democracies. We
comprehend and appreciate, I believe,
the grave problems which the war has
brought to the British people and fully
understand the special international
Questions which arise from the fuct
of your peculiar position as an island
empire." "
The correspondent declared that he
left the President "with the assurance
ringing in my ears that he desired to
co-operate with the British and with
all the allies, in securing, with their
counsel, a new state of affairs through
out the world."
President Tells Storien.
"The President had fixed an hour to
receive me, and rtther than depart from
his rule of punctuality, he curtailed his
inspection of American headquarters at
4 he Hotel Chilton. I followed the Presi
dent to the charming residence placed
at his disposal by Prince Murat Presi
dent Wilson welcomed me and con
ducted me to the room where he does
the most of his work. Our talk led us
over many topics, some &rave and
some gay. He is by far the best teller
of anecdotes I have ever heard. lie
told a story about the way in which
the Americans solved the problem of
governing their Irish population, by
letting the Irish police them.
"When the conversation touched upon
the great question of the peace con
ference, the President's smile remained
in abeyance. It Is not as a master that
he has come to Europe. The first topic
he touched upon was the contrast be
tween the consvess of Vienna. which
has caused so much evil iy the world,
end the congress of Versailles, which,
the world hopes, will right old wrings."
"I told the President that some peo
ple were asking why the President of
the United Stales should come to Eu- ,
rope at this time. Mr. Wilson replied:
To me the answer seems very obvious."
Ills; Issues lavslved.
"The Issues which must be deter
mined at the coming conference are of
j such overwhelming importance that the
United States cannot refuse to share
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