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TTTE 3IORNIXO OREGOXIAX, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 9, 1918.
FEARS
PRESIDENTS WE
DISAPPOINTS SOME
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WILSON'S REPLY RECOGNIZED
AS ADROIT POLITICAL MOVE
Seme Newspapers See Responsibility Placed Directly on Germany; Others
Think President's Note Should Have Demanded "Unconditional Surrender.
OF
Civilian and Military
DERNBERG
HUMILIATION
HUN
Threat of Fight to Bitter End
Made in Address.
PRINCE MAX IS PRAISED
New Chancellor Declared to Repre
sent "Old German Ideal, What
Is Right
3Ioral.
AMSTERDAM. Oct. 8. "Militarism
has not attained Us aim of peace by
annexation, violence and oppression
a peace by understanding is coming: in
stead," said Dr. Dernbergr, former Ger
man Minister of colonies, speaking: at
Chemnitz. Saxony.
"With Prince Maximilian," he added,
"the old German ideal comes to the
fore 'not what is useful, but what Is
riht and moral.' Such a peace 'will
bring a new era and new and better
times will dawn for Germany and the
world based on justice in thought and
action. A new era means a funda
mental revolutionary transformation of
governmental systems for the entire
future".
"Militarism is an expression of
violence without the restriction of
authority. It terrorizes the entire
state life.
Important Condition Raised.
"President "Wilson's 14 old and five
new points can be 'accepted by us If
put forward honestly without humilia
tion for Germany. We shall not ac
cept an unjust, humiliating peace. The
new ministry is not only a ministry of
peace, but. if necessary, a ministry of
national defense, and, if it must be, to
the bitter end."
COPENHAGEN,-Monday. Oct. 7. The
Lokal Anzeiger . of Berlin says that
two of President Wilson's points must
be considered rejected the separation
of Alsace-Lorraine from Germany and
the incorporation in independent Po
land of Prussian Poland.
LONDON. Oct. 8. The German gov
ernment, according to a dispatch from
Amsterdam to the Exchange Telegraph
Company, intends to grant pardons to
a number of politicians imprisoned
since the war began, including the So
cialist. Dr. Karl Liebknecht, and Wil
heim Dittmann. '
A general amnesty, the dispatch
adds, probably will be granted to po
litical offenders.
Dr. Karl Liebknecht is one of the few
Socialist leaders in Germany who have
consistently stood against the govern
ment in its war policies.
Dr. Liebknecht was arrested May 1,
1916, on the charge of participating in
riots that day in Berlin. In the fol
lowing month he was tried on the
charge of attempting high treason,
sross insubordination and resistance to
the authorities. The Socialist leader
was sentenced to 30 months' penal serv
itude and dismissed from the army.
Dr. Liebknecht for several years rep
resented Potsdam in the Reichstag.
Deputy Wilhelm Dittmann is an In
dependent Socialist. His name was
linked in October. 1917, with those of
Deputies Haase and Vogtherr, other So
cialists, with the mutiny in the German
fleet.
Dittmann was arrested in Berlin in
February when he attempted to address
a crowd in a Berlin suburb. He was
. sentenced to five years' imprisonment
for inciting to high treason and was
Siven two months additional for re
sisting public authority.
FRENCH DRIVE FOE FAR
(Continued from First Page.)
desperate energy all day. To prevent
the French crossing the river, they
have attacked on the line between
Pont Givart and Berry-au-Bac, throw
ing large units into action on the cen
ter of this front.
In spite of the vigor of the enemy's
resistance, however, the Aisne has been
crossed at Berry-au-Bac, the whole
village on the north bank of the river
being in the hands of the French, who
have also made some progress beyond
it. The Germans have also been fight
ing fiercely along the Ames.
"WITH THE FRENCH ARMY AT
RHEIMS. Oct. S. (By the Associated
Press.) The last shells fell upon
Rheims on Friday, after which the Ger
mans retired over the hills to save the
guns that fired the parting shots, one
of which hit the cathedral.
"The crash of it," said an eye-witness
to this last blow of brutal force
at the inanimate product of supreme
art. "sounded like an explosion of im
potent rage."
Town Is In Ruins.
A few more stones fell from the
ragged edge of an old breach in one of
the arches of the ceiling: another cloud
of dust and smoke rose out of the skel
eton structure, and German effort at
the destruction of the ancient capital
of the Rem! was ended.
There is little more the Germans
could hav-3 done, for Rheims today is
in utter ruin, as complete a symbol as
even the Germans would wish to leave
behind them of the ruthlessness of war
as they have waged it. Only the build
ires in the outskirts remain erect, and
not one of them was left untouched.
Toward the center of the town noth
ing but the ragged remnants of walls
remain standing, while around the ca
thedral and other churches even the
walls have been reduced to heaps of
debris.
The cathedral, which required more
than 200 years in the building, has been
reduced to ruins in four years of more
or less constant bombardment. The
walls are standing, but daylight shows
through them in many places. Great
holes in the ceiling are growing larger
as the unsupported masonry crumbles
find falls.
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S.T. LOUIS GLOBE-DEMOCRAT In
this interrogative way the Presi
dent places the responsibility of
action upon the central powers. They
cannot pretend that their proposal has
been flouted or that it has been denied
consideration. The great question of
peace which they so much desire is
placed before them for their own u
tlon. They must approve the Presi
dent's interrogation or go on fighting.
Tacoma Ledger President Wilson's
reply to the German offer puts peace
squarely at the door of the Hun. If
Germany is sincere in its desire for
peace, the road is open. If the German
offer was not made in good faith, but
was simply a hook baited for suckers,
the truth will now speedily be known.
Salt Lake Tribune Germans' can ob
tain peace by accepting the terms laid
down by President Wilson in his ad
dress of last January and subsequent
addresses, and by withdrawing her
forces from occupied territory. But it
must be the people of Germany and not
the Kaiser and his military advisers
who accept the terms and make the
necessary promises. The President
stands upon his former utterances.
Salt Lake Herald We cannot help
but regret that the President's note to
Germany was not more decisive. ' It
should bar any disposition to argue a
matter that in the interests of the civ
ilized world admits of no argument.
Seattle Post-Intelligencer President
Wilson's note is consistent with the
President's declarations of American
aims in the war. Our terms of peace
must be accepted without subterfuge
or quibble and must be accepted by a
German government in which the Kai
ser and the junkers have no greater
part than the humblest citizen of the
empire.
Baltimore Sun Probably no one else
in the country would have answered
the Chancellor in the manner adopted
by the President. The general feeling,
if the press and other comment on the
matter is to be taken as an indication.
was that the right answer would be
simply a. hot demand for unconditional
surrender. But, now that the thing
has been done, everyone, we believe,
will recognize it as the logical,
straightforward thing to do.
Indianapolis Star It goes without
saying that the reply is not what we
have all expected and hoped for. . . .
Most of us would wish to see the sin
cerity of Germany frankly indicated
and our minimum demands set out in
naked simplicity and severity. It is the
part 6f wisdom, however, to conclude
that the President is right, knowing
more than we can know.
Philadelphia Inquirer If the Nation
expected that the President would re
turn as the answer to Germany's peace
proposals two words unconditional
surrender it will be disappointed. Ap
parently the time to proclaim that ulti
matum (in the opinion of the President)
has not yet come. But if Germany sub
mits to the requirements of the Presi
dent before he will advise our allies to
halt the armies in their smashing blows
. . . . Germany will have virtually
surrendered just the same.
Idaho Statesman (Boise) The ques
tion as to whether the Chancellor rep
resents the German government which
has conducted the war, seems to be the
most important part of the President's
note, in view of the fact that he has
repeatedly stated that "we cannot come
to terms with them. They have made
it impossible."
New York World In dealing with
the German offensive. President Wilson
has employed the same tactics that
Foch used in breaking the German
military offensive a counter offensive.
The President has simply shifted the
Issue 'back to Germany and left the
German government to get out as best
it can of the trap which was so care
fully laid for the United States and
the allies.
Rocky Mountain News, Denver.
President Wilson's answer is but the
beginning, we fear, of diplomatic cor-
WILSON'S 14 TERMS OF PEACE
WASHINGTON, Oct. 8. President
Wilson's programme of world peace,
stated in 14 terms in his address to
Congress last January 8 and which the
German Chancellor now is asked to say
whether he accepts without qualifica
tion before the President replies to
latest peace proposals, are as follows:
1. Open covenants of peace, openly
arrived at, after' which there shall be
no private international understanding
of any kind, but diplomacy shall pro
ceed always frankly and in the public
view.
2. Absolute freedom of navigation
upon the eeas. outsiae lerruonai
waters', alike in peace and in war ex
cept as the seas may be closed in whole
or in part by international action for
the enforcement of international cov
enants. 3. The removal, so far as possinie.
of all economic barriers and the estab
lishment of an equality of trade condi
tions among all nations consenting to
the peace and associating themselves
for its maintenance.
4. Adeauate guarantees given and
taken that national armaments will be
reduced to the lowest point consistent
with domestic safety.
S. A free, onen-mlnded and abso
lutely Impartial adjustment of all colo
nial claims, based upon a strict ob
servance of the principle that in deter
mining such questions of sovereignty
the interests of the populations con
cerned must have equal weight with
the equitable claims of the government
whose title is to be aetermmea.
6. The evacuation of all Russian ter
ritorv and such a settlement of all
questions affecting Russia as will se
cure the best and freest co-operation
of the other nations of the world in
obtaining for her "an unhampered and
unembarrassed opportunity lor tne in
dependent determination of her own po
litical development and national policy
and assure her of a sincere welcome
into the society of free nations under
institutions of her own choosing: and,
more than a welcome, assistance also
of every kind that she may need and
may herself desire. The treatment ac
corded Russia by her sister nations In
the months to come will be the acid
test of their good will ot their com
prehension of her needs, as distin
guished from their own interests and
of their intelligent and unselfish sym-
Pa7blRelirium. the whole world will
agree, must be evacuated and restored
without any attempt to nmn inn en
STEVENS CRITICALLY ILL
Olympla Man Suddenly Stricken "While
Delivering- Al4reM.
YAKIMA. Wash.. Oct. 8. While
speaking at the unveiling of a pioneer
monument near Goldendale. General
Hazzard Stevens, of Olympia. became
suddenly ill.' His seizure was attributed
by" physicians to brain hemorrhage.
His condition is reported critical.
British Casualties Announced.
'LONDON. Oct. 8. British casualties
reported in the week endjng today
respondence between Washington and
Berlin regarding construction of
phrases that may give the enemy time
to mend the break along the fronts.
. . . The German government la try
ing to save for itself something from
the wreck of defeat.
ST. LOUIS REPUBLIC President
Wilson's reply to the German peace
note, though cloaked In the language
of polite inquiry, is nothing less than
a demand on the Hun for unconditional
surrender. And there is no doubt that
Berlin and the rest of the world will
read it in that way. Surrender without
conditions. Those are the terms of
America and her allies.
ST. PAUL PIONEER PRESS The
Hun government has been outmaneu
vered. Since it has chosen, like Hln
denburg and Ludendorff, to resort to
subterfuge and indirect attack, the
President, like Foch and Pershing, has
answered his adversary In kind he
has adopted "'tactics" rather than point
blank fire.
SPOKANE SPOKESMAN-REVIEW
The President's manner of disposing
of the German peace venture probes
deeply and unerringly into the weak
points of the enemy's position. It cuts
away all the cobwebbery with which
the Germans love to surround their
diplomacy and makes impossible any
thing but a frank and straightforward
proposal.
DES MOINES REGISTER The ques
tion is, did the) German Chancellor
really mean it? If he did. the way to
further negotiations is plain. If he did
not mean it. but was bidding merely
for home sympathy in face of what he
hoped to picture as irreconcilable allied
aggression, then the President has
adroitly foiled him. If the Chancellor
is in earnest and speaks with author
ity, no door Is closed to him. If he is
playing for position, then he has been
outwitted.
NEW YORK STAATS ZEITUNG The
reply of President Wilson to the re
cent peace proposal of the German
Chancellor opens a possibility for end
ing the war. ... In his answer Pres
ident Wilson gives proof that the an
nihilation of Germany is not his in
tention: that he solely desires sufficient
guarantees for a permanent peace.
. . We are convinced that Prince
Maximilian can and will, in a short
while, accede to President Wilson's de
mands. FORT WORTH RECORD President
Wilson's message tears to tattersthe
Teutonic camouflage for a negotiated
peace and carries the warning to the
German people that annihilation awaits
their armies In the field and destruc
tion of their fortified cities and towns
unless the rulers of Germany step
aside and permit representatives of
government that can be trusted to
speak for the empire.
PUEBLO (COLO.) CHIEFTAIN The
President has sent a thoroughly Yan
kee answer to the German Chancellor
"Whattdya mean, peace?"
LINCOLN STATE JOURNAL The
Wilson reply 1b on a level with his pre
ceding state papers. It voices the firm
ness of the allied nations in rejecting
a premature cessation of the war and
it leaves the way open for the central
powers to apply once more when they
are in a mood to ask a peace that the
rest of the world can afford to grant.
The President does not shut the door
in the face of an honorable peace.
New York Herald. Americans feel
that there should be nothing that
savors even remotely of diplomatic
weakening. Unfortunately the PresI
dent's note of inquiry is likely to be
so construed. . . . Peace is a long
way off. for there can be no peace until
there is unconditional surrender oy tne
enemy We have just begun to fight.
New York Times It is open to Ger
many to say that this is a demand for
surrender. That is what it amounts to
and the President speaks v hat is iq
the minds of the American people when
he makes the surrender of Germany a
necessary preliminary to any talk about
peace.
ereignty' which she
enjoys in common
with all other free
nations. No other
single act will serve as this will serve
to . restore confidence among the na
tions in the laws which they them
selves have set and determined for the
government of their relations with one
another. Without this healing act the
whole structure and validity of inter
national law is forever impaired
8. All French territory should be
freed and the invaded portions re
stored and the wrong done to France
by Prussia In 1871 In the matter of
Alsace-Lorraine, which has unsettled
the peace of the world for nearly 60
years, should be righted, in order that
peace may once more be made secure
in the interest of all.
9. A readjustment of the frontiers of
Italy should be effected along clearly
recognizable lines of nationality.
10. The peoples of Austria-Hungary,
whose place among nations we wish to
see safeguarded and assured, should
be accorded the freest opportunity of
autonomous development.
11. Roumania, Serbia and Montenegro
should be evacuated: occupied terri
tories restored: Serbia accorded free
and secure access to the sea and the
relations of the several Balkan states
to one another determined by friendly
counsel along historically established
lines of allegiance and nationality: and
international guarantees of the politi
cal and economic independence and
territorial Integrity of the several Bal
kan states should be entered Into.
12. The Turkish portion of the pres
ent Ottoman empire should be assured
a secure sovereignty, but the other
nationalities which are now unde
Turkish rule should be assured an un
doubted security of life and an abso
lutely unmolested opportunity of au
tonomous development, and the Dar
danelles should be permanently opened
as a free passage to the ships and com
merce of all nations under Interna
tional guarantee.
13. An independent Polish state should
be erected which should include th
territories inhabited by indisputably
Polish populations, which should be
assured a free and secure access to th
sea and whose political and economic
Independence and territorial integrit
should be guaranteed by international
covenant.
14. A general association of nation
must be formed under specific cov
enants for the purpose of affordln
mutual guarantees of political inde
pendence and territorial integrity
to
great and small states alike.
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Opinions in Congress Differ on
Reply to Germany.
BLUNT REJECTION ASSUMED
Prediction. Generally Made. How
ever, That Final Answer Would
Bo Blunt Enough.
"WASHINGTON. Oct. 8 Sr.ecilt
President Wilson's note of inquiry to
the Imperial German government was
received by Coneress with mixed feel.
ings.
It came as somewhat of a dlsan-
polntment to some Senators and Rep
resentatives, who had hoped that the
President would reDlv to Germanv with
the same blunt rejection to which he
reated the Austrian peace proposal
several weeks ago. But the prediction
as generally made that his final an-
wer to Germany would caual their ex
pectations.
Administration leaders and others
pointed out that the note must not be
regarded as a reply, but merely as an
inquiry. They explained that it was
prepared undoubtedly to test the sin
cerity of the German proposal and to
uimy any advantage the German cov-
rnment might have gained with its
wn subjects by appearing consclen-
iously desirous of peace.
"Wine Hies," Says Hitchcock.
Senator Hitchcock. of Nebraska.
chairman of the foreign relations com
mittee, made this statement:
The President's Dreliminarv answer
is well calculated to devrlon the issue.
l win prevent Germanv from conceal
ing or disguising the real issue. I be
lieve it to have been a wise steD on the
part of the President before replying
to the note of Prince Maximilian to
learn exactly the intention of the Gr-
government before framing his
reply to the Chancellor.
'The interpretation I would nut unon
the President's preliminary answer
would be that he intends to reject the
German overtures unless Germany ac
cepts all the conditions heretofore laid
own and at once evacuates all occu
pied territory."
Complete Withdrawals Possible.
I interpret it to mean with regard
to tnese evacuations a German with
drawal from Belgium. France, Italy.
Rumania and Serbia and perhaps also
Russia and that thereafter the con
ference shall deal exclusively with
the details Incident to Germany's un
qualified acceptance of the conditions
laid down in the President's speech of
January 8. 1918. and subsequent sirp
plementary conditions stated by him.
i interpret tne note also to mean
that by the use of the word 'accept'
he President means to accept the
conditions variously laid down by him
ana not to accept them simply as a
basis of further negotiations."
Senator Lodge, of Massachusetts. Re
publican leader and senior minority
member of the Senate foreign relations
committee, and Representative Fess. of
Ohio, chairman of the Republican Con
gressional campaign committee, ex
pressed keen disappointment in the
course taken by the President.
Lodge la Disappointed.
I am keenly disannointed." aid
Senator Lodge, "that the President
should at thia stage enter into a discus
sion with the imperial German govern
ment, as he has done in the note signed
oy Mr. l.ansing.
in his first and second paragraphs
he asks for further information and in
vites further discussion. It la true that
in the last paragraph he inquires
whether Prince -Maximilian of Baden
represents merely the constituted au
thorities of the German empire.
Prince Maximilian is the Chancellor
of the German empire, appointed by
the Kaiser. I do not understand what
he can possibly represent except the
constituted authorities, which represent
the German empire and the German
people, unless a revolution has occurred
of which the world has as jet no
knowledge.
Personally I adhere to the statement
of the President made In his speech of
September 27. in which he said:
Compromise Held Impossible.
'We are .all agreed that there can
be no peace obtained by any kind o
bargain or compromise with the gov
ernment of the central empires, becsuse
we have dealt with them already and
have seen them deal with other govern
mnts that were parties to this struggle
at irest-Litovsk and Bucharest. . . ,
The President, answering the sug
gestion or tne imperial German gov
ernment of an armistice, says the good
faith of this proposal rests on the con
sent of the central powers to withdraw
their armies from invaded territory,
Are they to withdraw unattacked
from Belgium and Northern France
burning and robbing and destroying as
they go to positions behind the Rhine,
where they will have time and oppor
tunlty to refresh their armies and re
plenish their munitions? Alsaco and
Lorraine are not invaded territory.
"I cannot but feel a painful tnxiety
as to what effect this note will have
upon the allies, upon our armies, upon
our soldiers who are fighting and
dying and conquering in order to 'crush
the thing' with which the President is
opening a aiscussion.
Conclusive Peace essary.
In expressing his disappointment
Representative Fess said the President
had taken the step "against which the
country has been warned."
The way has been opened.' said
Mr. Fess, "for Germany to save herself
by withdrawing her armies within her
own border by agreement rather than
by retreat under fire, as she has been
forced to do the past few weeks.
"Peace discussions with Germany be
fore our armies are on her soil will not
insure the future. I had hoped that no
step would be taken to transfer the
discussion from the field to the table.
I do not believe the soldiers or the
country will ever be satisfied with
anything short of a conclusive peace.
which can only be assurea by sum
chastisement of Germany as will make
a like sacrifice in the future im
possible. Dynasty May Fall.
Senator Borah, Republican, of Idaho,
said :
"if the response should be that the
Imperial German government accepts
the terms laid down by the President in
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