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VOL. L.VIII. C 18,037.
THE MORNING OKEGONIAN. TUESDAY, OCTOBER 8, 1918.
" rRICE FIVE CENTS.
Ul TO REJECT
GERMAN PROPOSAL
President Silent But Reply
Not in Doubt.
ALLIED TERMS MUST STAND
American Executive Confers on
Subject With Premiers of
Entente Nations.
ANSWER WILL BE HISTORICAL
Momentous Declaration of Pol
icy Likely to Be Dispatched
Within Few Days.
WASHINGTON, Oct. 7. President
Wilson is conferring with the pre
mieres of the entente nations over the
form ot answer to be made to Ger
many's latest peace proposals. The
indications are that it will not be dis
patched for a day or two.
While there may be some question
as to the form of the reply, there is
no question whatever as to its nature.
It may not use the short and force
ful .term, "unconditional surrender,"
which would reflect the sentiment
which has come from the spokesmen
of the Nation.
Terms Not Altered.
It is sure, however, to convey to
the German government very clearly
the fact that nothing less than the
terms already laid down can be ac
cepted, and that those terms cannot
be made merely "the basis for nego
tiation."
As to an armistice, such a step
would be looked upon as suicidal and
not to be thought of.
By this time Prince Maximilian's
note and that of Baron Burian, the
Austro-Hungarian Foreign Minister,
in 6fficial form undoubtedly are in the
Foreign . offices in London, Paris and
Rome, forwarded by President Wil
ton as requested by the central powers.
1 Double Purpose Involved.
The exchanges now going on have
two-fold purpose:
Obviously the American Govern
ment would not proceed to speak for
the other belligerents on a matter of
Buch importance without consultation
among them, and it is purposed to
avoid the mistake of making a curt
and peremptory rejection which could
be used by the central powers, before
their own people, to bolster up the
argument that they are waging a "de
fensive" war and that the objects of
the co-belligerents "are to destroy"
them.
In the absence of official announce
ments of what the President has done,
It is highly probable that he has taken
one of these two courses:
Reply May Be Formulated.
Either he has asked Premiers Lloyd
George, Ciemenceau and Orlando to
advise him of their replies, or, more
likely still, the President already has
formulated a reply and asked the
Premiers for their acquiescence.
The temper of debate in the Senate
today and the general tone of public
opinion in the United States as ex
pressed in the newspaper comment
are a very fair index of the Govern
ment's views.
The consensus of opinion in the
Senate debate was that the offer
should be rejected; the practically
unanimous public opinion as reflected
in newspapers all over the country
was that no peace terms short of un
conditional surrender could be dis
cussed.
It is very clear that the reply will
be not only an answer to Germany
and her allies, but a statement for
the historical record of the world. It
is realized on every hand that a re
jection of a peace offer must be a
convincing one and one which will
justify the prolonging of the war to
the ends sought.
It is realized that it must be con
vincing to the people of Great Brit
ain, France, Italy and the .United
States, so that they may be warned
against the insidious danger f throw
ing away the hard-won victory so
near their grasp, and at the same time
leave no opportunity for the mili
tarist leaders of . the central powers
, to lure their people on to n.ore blood
shed and sacrifice.
Congress May Be Addressed.
There is a suggestion that to carry
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DOUGHBOYS TURN HUN
ATTACK INTO DEFEAT
AMERICANS SMOTHER BOCHES
AVHO ATTEMPT SCRPRISE.
C S. Troops In Champagne Get Ad
vance Information and Enemy
Is Made to Suffer.
WITH THE AMERICAN ARMY
NORTHWEST OF VERDUN, Oct. 7.
(By the Associated Press.) The Ger
mans delivered a local attack In Cham
pagne at daylight east of St. Etienne.
They received a counter thrust at the
hands of the Americana which those
Germans who lived to tell the tale will
long remember.
The Americans had advance Informa
tion of an impending German attack
and they more than met the Germans
half way. When the German artillery
opened, the Americans were ready and
sent into the enemy line five or more
shells for every German projectile
hurled at them.
Among the prisoners were 17 be
wildered pioneers from the Rheims
sector, who were serving as infantry
men for the first time.
As the German artillery opened along
the line from St. Etienne to Orfeuil
several companies of German Infantry
started filtering through the shaggy
patches of pine wood. Most of them
were seasoned troops. The French and
American artillery, however, was so
effective that these veterans were
thrown into confusion. Many of them
were killed. The 17 pioneers were cut
off from the other Germans by Ameri
can machine gun fire and made pris
oner. Six of them were wounded.
The pioneer detachment cam out of
the mist before the Americans had
reached an open place. The Americans,
seeing that they had the pioneers at
their mercy, used their machine guns
against their rear. The Germans be
came confused as they were unable to
go forward, sideways or. backward and
sought the cover of the sand dunes.
An American private who speaks
German, with his pistol as his only
weapon, crawled forward and compelled
the Germans to surrender.
When the Americans captured St.
Etienne they took five Austrian 88s,
12,000 rounds of K8 ammunition and
125,000 rounds of machine-gun cart
ridges. FRENCH SHIPS TAKE BEIRUT
Naval Division Received by Syrians
With Great Enthusiasm. '
PARIS, Oct. 7. A French naval divi
sion operating off the coast of Syria
entered Beirut this morning.
The enthusiasm of the populace was
indescribable.
Beirut, capital of the vilayet of the
same name, is the chief seaport of
Syria. It is situated on the Mediter
ranean, 75 miles northwest of Damascus.
Before the war Beirut had a popula
tion of more than 150,000, two-thirds
being Christians.
AMERICAN PRISONERS 1480
Two Hundred and Twenty Interned
Civilians Identified shad 61 Sailors.
WASHINGTON, Oct. 7. Members of
the American expeditionary forces
who have -been identified as prisoners
of war In Germany number 1480 on
October 5, said an announcement today
from the office of the Adjutant-General
of the Army. In addition, 220
civilians Interned in Germany have
been identified, as have 61 sailors held
in Constantinople.
GARROS AGAIN IS MISSING
famous 1 Tench Aviator -Vho Once
Escaped Huu Disappears.
PARIS, Oct. 7. Lieutenant Roland G.
Garros, a French aviator well-known
in the United States, who last Febru
ary escaped from a German prison and
rejoined his aerial squadron, has again
been posted as missing after a flight
over the battlefront.
INDEX OF TODAY'S NEWS
The Weather.
TESTERDAT'S Maximum temperature, 67
degrees: minimum, 46 degrees.
TODAT'S Fair; eaM-rly winds.
Peace Move.
No doubt exists that Wilson will say no to
Germany. Page 1.
Senate scorns German peace. Page 1.
Allies await Wilson's reply to Germany.
Page -'.
Austrian statement says peace move not due
to defeats. Page 2.
French press says Germany trying" to dodge
disaster. Page 3.
Allied soldiers want only victorious peace.
Page o.
War.
British gain on four-mile front. Page 1.
Yankees and French gain. Page 1.
Yankees befia new attack. says Berlin.
Page 4.
Loss of Belgian porta will not affect U-boat
war. Page o.
Americans turn Hun attack Into defeat-
Page 1.
Official casualty list. Page 7.
Hope of peace sets Berlin crowds wild with
goy. Pagel.
Foreign.
Rebirth of Pan-Russia planned at Ufa eon
vention. Page o. e
Sports.
Fans want to see Barracks and Foundation
SB return clash. Page 12.
"Boxing; Commission to hold meeting to dis
cuss proposed changes in rules. Page 12.
Commercial and Marine.
All coarse grains slump in local market.
Page IT.
Corn drops 9 cents in Chicago pit. Page 1
High-grade rails firm and war stocks weak
in Wall street. Page IT.
Increased bond issue for Portland port fa
duties proposed- Page 13.
Portland mad Vicinity.
Democratic candidate denies affiliation with
Kon-Partisan&v Page t.
Oregon asked to send munitions workers to
eastern plants. Page IS.
Business men ask libertyto employ women
in evenings- rase iw.
City government to cost more. Page 13.
Spanish Influenza breaks out In Portland.
Page 6.
Power- company wants to lay loop en Tarn
hill street, rage .
Weather report, data and forecast. Page 13,
YANKEES THROW
FOE FROM HILLS
Vital Heights West of Riv
er Aire Captured.
BOCHE RESISTANCE CRUSHED
Americans Force Germans to
Flee From Chatel Chehery.
FRENCH CONTINUE TO GAIN
Berry-an-Bac Is Taken and Advance
Is Made to Aisne River; Snlppe
River Also Is Crossed.
PARIS, Oct. T. The French have
raptured Berry-An-Bar, the War Office
announces tonight.
The statement sayss
"We have captured Berry-Au-Bse.
"Northeast of St. Q.uentin local opera
tions to improve our positions gave fine
results. Seven hundred prisoners were
taken In the last 24 hours."
WITH THE AMERICAN ARMY
NORTHWEST OF VERDUN, Oct. 7.
(By the Associated Press.) The Amer
icans achieved another important.
though local, success today, forcing the.
Germans out of Chatel Chehery, north
west of Apremonv.
Pushing forward, they overcame the
stubborn resistance of the enemy and
settled themselves on the commanding
heights west of the River Aire.
Nothing of importance occurred on
the other portions of the American
front throughout today.
French Army In Attack.
The attack which culminated In the
capture of Chatel Cherey began this
morning by the left and left-center
troops just north of Hill 223. to the
western edge of the Argonne, where the
French to the left joined in the assault.
The Infantry went forward at 6 o'clock,
the troops on the east crossing the Aire.
A heavy mist afforded the men good
protection while it lasted. Beyond the
river the men were Infiltrated through
the valley between Hill 180 and Hill 223.
Thence they worked into the wood be
yond and attacked and carried Hill 180
after hard fighting.
The Germans began the withdrawal
of their artillery when they saw the
attack was likely to prove successful.
Grenades Are Used Freely
The troops in the center of the at
tack met the first obstacle 10 minutes
after starting. In the shape of German
trenches. The Americans aeiugea tnese
with hand grenades, carrying the en
trenchments. They reached their first
objective in record time and entered
Chatel Cherey at 8:40 o'clock with
only slight resistance.
An attack on Hill 244. where the
Germans occupied strong positions,
was begun at once and there was des
perate fighting as the Americana
stormed the heights.
In the meantime other 'infantry de
tachments filtered through in single
file into Abbe Wood and helped to
carry Hill 244, which was taken before
noon. The troops reached the north
side of the hill by 1 o'clock in the after
noon, while others advancing over the
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MAP OF CHAMPAGNE-ARGONNE
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Battle Front Today. While Shaded Double Line shows Front of Hlndenborsc Dfese System. Which the Tsnks Have Psl-enwd. In the Lower Rlaht of the
Man the Shaded Portion Indicates the tirest St. Mlhlel Salient. Which the Amerlcsns -eliminated In Two Dije of Klahtlsa. The Shaded Portion of Mis Ki.
tendlnur Weatnsrd From the Line of the Meuse River to Rheims la the Arsrouue-t hsmssirse Sector. Where the Americans on the Rlarht. Oserstlas Approx
imately ns For West ot St. Ktlesse, and the French on the Left. Coverlaa; Rheims and the Uronnd Runnlnsr tAestwnrd Along the Al.se. Are Ru-hlnar the
tiermsna North. The Joint Offensive sf the Frsneo-Amerieans In This Rearlon Hss Freed Rheims From the Mensee of the Hnn nsd Is Proarresslsa .-orth--srd
Toward the Oermas Mais Line of Communications From Ucrmany Through Helgtnns to the Fighting Front- Eighteen MUee' More Advnnee V. Ill sever This Line.
I Progress of the War.
(By the Associated Press.)
THE troops of the French General
Berthelot have delivered a success
ful blow against the Germans north
west of Rheims which adds materially
to the menace that is hanging over
the German front from the North Sea
to the Swiss border. This was the cap
ture of Berry-Au-Bac on the north side
of the Aisne. about 104 miles north
west of Rheims, and only a. scant five
miles from the eastern end of the fa
mous Cherain Des Dames ridge at
Craonne. A further advance northward
across the railroad not alone will put
the great stronghold of Loan In a
pocket, but also will outflank Neuf
chatel, another enemy stronghold on
the west.
The Turks also have suffered a eeri
ous blow in the loss to the French of
Beirut, capital of the Vilayet of Syria.
The occupation of this seaport on the
Mediterranean by a French naval di
vision gives the allies a base for the
landing of men who can operate In all
directions against the Turks over the
roads radiating from It.
Although peace talk still Is In the
air, there Is no peace for the Ger
man and Austro-Hungarian armies in
the field.
wniie attempts are being made in
well Informed circles" in Germany and
Austria to show that the latest peace
proposals of the central Dowers are
honest expressions of a desire for
Just peace," Marshal Foch'a armies are
proceeding without pause In their task
of clearing Belgium and France of the
invader. Likewise in Serbia and Al
bania the Serbs and Italians are fast
reclaiming enemy occupied territory,
while at last reports the British Gen
eral Allenby in Palestine still was hard
after the retreating Turks.
While further good gains have been
made by the British east of Arras.
where the operations have in view the
capture of the Important town of Doual
and other advances have been recorded
between Cambral and St. Quentln. chief
interest for the present centers In the
fighting in Champagne and between the
Argonne forest and the Meuse, where
the French and Americans are driving
tne enemy steadily northward.
All along the front from Rheims to
the Meuse, a distance of more than 60
miles, the enemy everywhere has met
with serious reverses and is falling
back at some places In disorder. Where
the enemy Is trying to resist the
French and Americans are meeting
their counter thrusts with splendid
stamina, and gradually forcing them
to give ground step by step.
East of Argonne forest, between that
great wooded bastion and the Meuse,
the Americans have further advanced
their line notwithstanding the fact
that the enemy has thrown in large
reinforcements. In the latest fighting
the Americans drove the Germans out
of Chatel Cherey, northwest of Apre
mont, and obtained command of the
heights west of the Aire.
Taken altogether, the entire southern
front of the Germans seems to be in a
rather serious situation from La Fere
to the north of Verdun. Laon, the great
storehouse of the Germans northeast of
Soissons, Is reported to be on Ore, indi
cating the possibility of an early fall
ing back; the Chemin Des Dames de
fenses are outflanked at both ends
Rheims has been restored and tho Ger
mans pushed back more than 10 miles
north of It, while- eastward General
Gouraud'a armies and the American
First Army are brilliantly carrying ou
their part of the .great converging
movement that seemingly at no far
distant dato will force the enemy ma
terlally to readjust his line.
A further Indication of the troublous
times In the German army Is the report
that Field Marshal ion Hindenburg has
resigned after a stormy Interview with
Emperor William, during which Von
Hindenburg informed the Emperor that
a German retreat on a large scale was
necessary.
REGION AND GROUND SOUTHEAST
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BRITISH ON
4 MILE, FB1T
Field Marshal Haig Ad
vances North of Scarpe,
TWO VILLAGES ARE TAKEN
English Draw Front Closer to
the City of Lille.
HUN POSITIONS'BOLSTERED
Bochcs Shove In All Available Men
In Effort to Hold Ground From
Masnlercs to Beaurevolr.
LONDON, Oct. 7. The British line
has been advanced on a front of four
miles north of the Scarpa, Field Mar
shal Haig reports tonight. The vil
lages of Blache St. Vaast and Oppy
were captured.
The statement reads:
"In successful local operations this
morning we advanced our line on
front of about four miles north of the
Scarpe River, capturing the villages of
Biache St. Vaast and Oppy and more
than 100 prisoners and a number of ma
chine guns.
Patrols Have Eseaisters.
"Patrol fighting took place also
northeast of Kpinoy and north of
Aubencheul-atrx-Bols. We have pro
gressed In both localities."
WITH THE BRITISH FORCES IN
FRANCE. Oct. 7. 10:30 A- M. (By the
Associated Press.) British troops in
the Lille sector and In the Beaurevolr
district were reported today to have
made further slight advances, but these
were mainly in the nature of llne-
stralghtenlng operations.
Positions Are Improved.
Generally, It appears that the British
armies for the moment have paused
but at the same time are taking advan
tage of the lull to improve their posi
tions. ""
In the fighting around Aubencheul
400 prisoners were taken by H&lg's
me.n. At Oppy a successful minor
operation gave the British ground. 34
prisoners and four machine guns. The
enemy Is holding the Masnieres-Beau-revolr
line in as much strength as he
can muster.
The Hindenburg system having been
smashed, the Germans naturally sup
pose they may be quickly called upon
to fight a great battle. Along the
Masnieres-Beaurevoir line they have
put In. every man they could lay
hands on. .
More Defeats In Store.
Great Britain's armies, military offi
cers say, have secured satisfaction
from the German cry of despair and
have now forgotten it. They are con
tinuing their plan to do their best
toward administering a defeat to the
enemy. Great events, the officers add,
may not be far distant.
BRITISH HEADQUARTERS NEAR
ST. QUENTIN, Oct. . (Reu tor's.) The
losses sustained by the New Tork divi
sion, which co-operated with the
British in the heavy fighting north of
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VERDUN
OF VERDUN WHERE AMERICAN FORCES ARE
AMERICAN
tke Presrt Mm September 13. Hesvy
BERLIN CROWDS WILD
OVER HOPE'OF PEACE
NEW CHANCELLOR'S SPEECH IS
GREETED WITH 5LD ACCLAIM.
'Peace Has Come," Cry Populace,
but Horr Wolff Is Doubtful as
to What Wilson. Will Say.
AMSTERDAM. Oct. 7. 4By the Asso
ciated Press.) Excited crowds in the
streets of Berlin yesterday tore spe
cial editions of the newspapers contain
ing the speech of Prince Maximilian,
the new Chancellor, from the hands of
the newsdealers.
Everywhere shouts of "Peace has
come!" "peace at last!" were heard.
Theodor Wolff, In Sunday's Berlin
Tagcblatt, thus describes the scenes
in the German capital and adds:
"One would like to share this hope
and yet for the present, at least, one
has to be dubious and skeptical."
This note of doubt pervades a large
section of the German press, apart from
the Pan-German Irreconcilable.
Herr Wolff continues:
"Surely. If an honest world could to
day exorcise tho war frenxy. President
Wilson ought to be won by the pure
love of humanity which fills Prince
Maximilian's breast. President Wilson
ought to say to himself that peace to
annihilation would only exalt Chauvin
ism In the entente countries, and that.
therefore, continuation of the war
would not serve his ideals. All this the
President of the United States ought to
do. but whether he will do It is un
certain. Therefore, one should not In
dulge In premature hopes."
Herr Wolff declares that the powers
of yesterday In Germany are ocenlv
hostile to Prince Maximilian's de
marche while secretly rejoicing that
theirs la not the responsibility in this
most difficult hour. But. he says, their
responsibility will nevertheless not be
forgotten by the nation.
GUN DRAWN FROM BUGGY
I-ortlaaa Yosts, Mow In Hospital. May
Lone Right A rim.
OREGON CITT. Or.. Oct. 7. William
Gerber, son of Mr. and Mrs. Joseph
Gerber, of Ninety-second street. Port
land, out hunting near Stone, Clacka
mas County. Sunday, accidentally shot
himself In the right arm. Gerber was
with a young woman and made the
trip in a buggy. In attempting to take
the gun from the vehicle. It was dis
charged. Dr. H. S. Mount, of this city, was
called, and the young man was removed
to the Oregon City Hospital. Every
effort will be made to save the arm.
AMERICAN YE0MAN HERO
Secretary Daniels Commends Drnve
Deed Done in France.
WASHINGTON. Oct. 7. Secretary
Daniels today commended Yeoman
John H. Johnston, of Providence,
R. I-, for heroism in rescuing an 11-year-old
French boy who fell through
the planking of an old platform over
the Charnete Riven, near Rochefort,
France, on August 24.
Johnston leaped Into the river and
brought the child out against a strong
current.
GROCERS TO SIGN PLEDGE
Every Retailer Will Be Asked to Con
form to Food Regulations.
WASHINGTON. Oct. 7. Every retail
grocer in the United States will be
asked this week to sign a pledge to
conform to the rules and regulations of
the Food Administration and to co
operate in the enormous food-saving
programme necessarv if America Is to
fulfill its obligation to Its associates in
the war and to European neutrals.
ENGAGED.
Ulsetc Hrakrs Line Isdlestes Approximate
SEWATESPURNS
OFFER OF PEACE
Leaders Ask Rejection ot
Foes' Proposal.
UPPER CHAMBER UNANIMOUS
Military Victory Held the Only
Policy for Allies.
GERMAN TRICK UNMASKED
Request for Armistice Declared by
Hitchcock to Bo "Absolutely
Abhorrent- to Members."
WASHINGTON. Oct- 7. Immediate
rejection of the German and Austrian
proposal for an armistice and peace
negotiations was demanded in the Sen
ate today by leaders voicing the com
mon sentiment of the membership.
There was no dissent from the view
that an armistice would defeat all that
America and the allies have been fight
ing for. Every speaker during two
hours of a spirited session devoted en
tirely to discussion of the enemy's lat
est move joined In declaring that only
through military victory could the
ca,use of the allies and humanity be
won.
Botk Parties Represented.
Senator Hltcncock. of Nebraska,
chairman of the Senata foreign rela
tions committee; Republican Leader
Lodge. of Massachusetts, ranking
minority leader of the committee: Sen
ators Poindexter, of Washington; Mc
Curaber, of North Dakota; Pitt man. of
Nevada; Aahurst and Smith, of Ari
zona: Nelson, of Minnesota, and Reed,
of Missouri, were among the speakers,
representing both political parties.
The discussion which was made to
vacant galleries, closed as a precau
tion against the Spanish lnfluenaa
epidemic, may be renewed next Thurs
day when the Senate reconvenes after
a recess.
First Resslslte Deflaed.
After Senator Hitchcock and others
had declared an armistice impossible.
Senator itcCumber introduced a resolu
tion proposing as the first requisite to
any peace negotiations, absolute sur
render by Germany. Including dissolir- -tion
of her army and navy, and pledges
for complete indemnifications.
The resolution was referred to the
foreign relations committee.
Although first pointing out that
Germany's offer contemplates accept
ance of President Wilson's 14 peace
terms. Senator Hitchcock declared that
the request for an armistice was "ab
solutely abhorrent" to every member
of the Senate.
It was "unthinkable." he said, that
the German and Austrian proposals
will be accepted, and he Insisted that
not only must Alsace-Lorraine be re
stored to France, but that, in any
peace negotiations, an organic change
In Germany's laws must be had, so that
the allies will deal with representa
tives of the German people.
Lodge Declares for Victory.
Declaring that an armistice would
mean, loss of the war. Senator Lodge
said the allies must gain a complete
military victory and that Germany
must be "put behind the bars." He
pointed out the danger of the "peace
offensive." which he predicted last
Au. ust the enemy would make, and
sain he did not believe President Wil
son contemplated accepting any such
proposal as that made by the enemy.
Senators in private declared that it
would be Inadvisable for the Senate to
adjourn. In view of developments, and
that the foreign relations committee
should keep in close touch with the
situation. It was suggested that, in
event of a recess, an agreement for
prompt reconvening upon call of lead
ers should be made.
Discussion of Germany's peace offer
began In the Senate soon after today's
session convened.
Senator Poindexter, of Washington.
Republican, declared the proposal for
an armistice "a most Insidious danger."
Cermasy Would Qslt Victor.
"Germany would come out a victor.
Just as she went Into it- If we accepted
this offer, Alsace-Lorraine would still
be In German hands. Poland would still
be enslaved: Serbians and Bohemians In
Austria still would be under tho Aus
trian yoke: Russia, although evacuated,
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CARTOONS Sl'SreDED "TICE"
TAKES HIS VACATION.
E. S. ("Tige") Reynolds, whose
daily cartoons, each carrying a
punch and a grin, have so long
been a feature of The Ore so -nlan,
has left for a two weeks'
vacation, which he will spend
hunting and fishing In Southern
Oregon. During the past three
weeks, besides drawing his "one
a day," Mr. Reynolds has been
serving as a liberty bond sales
man. From the effects of this
added labor, as well ss IS months
of unbroken dally grind, he has
gone to recuperate.
Reynolds' cartoons will be re
stored as a regular dally feature
of The Oregonlan after the car
toonist's vacation is over.
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