Morning Oregonian. (Portland, Or.) 1861-1937, September 15, 1917, Page 3, Image 3

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MEETlHG TO DEBATE
FARES IS BITTER
Eugene Smith Is Hissed, but
Finally Wins Demand for
, Investigation of Need,
6-.CENT RATE DENOUNCED
One Element at Auditorum Scores
Proposed Increase and Says
Case Before Commission Is
' One-Sided and Biased.
At the close of a meeting charac
terized by verbalitles. Interruptions,
hisses and the hurling of pointed ques
tions,, 3500 men and women last night
adopted a resolution introduced . by
Eugene E. Smith, that threw victory
to the conservatives. The mass ses
sion, which was called by the Alberta
Commercial Club, was held In the Pub
lic Auditorium to discuss the proposed
Increase of streetcar fares.
For a time, it looked as though the
radicals, as represented in a resolution
proposed by Henry M. Kimball, an at
torney with offices in the Chamber of
Commerce - building, would carry the
vote. Mr. Smith, who was for several
terms president of the Central Labor
Council ot Portland, threw the weight
of his stentorian voice against the
huge crowd and grasped victory out of
defeat.
Resolution Condemns Increase.
The Kimball resolution embodies the
wishes of the element which was op
posed to any increase in streetcar
fares. . whether or no, and would have.
If adopted, put the meeting, on record
as protesting the "one-sided and
biased" presentation of the case before
the 'State Public Service Commission;
condemned the proposed increase in
fares as "unnecessiry, harmful to the
best interests of the cily and unfair
since the elimination of the Jitney."
It further resolved "That, if the rail
way commission (State Public Service
Commission) assume power in the
premises "and " permit an Increase in
fare, that Immediate steps be taken by
the citizens of Portland oy means of a
epecial election and initiative measures,
to restore the jitney, under a more rea
sonable regulation."
Mr. Smith Hissed at First.
Mr. Kimball read his resolution from
Ihe platform and moved its adoption,
amid much cheering. Mr. Smith then
read his and moved that it be substi
tuted. At first, he was hissed end told
to "sit down," but he "'stood-pat" "nd
finally won by explaining who he was
and what he had recently represented.
It appeared to make his path easier
when it became known mat he was a
labor representative.
The Smith resolution was as follows:
Be It .resolved. By this meeting of Port
laud citizens and streetcar patrons publicly
called and assembled for the purpose of
giving cuidlng expression of our opinions
and desires In relation to the outcome of
the hearing- now being granted the Portland
Railway. Light & Power Comna nw hv h
Public Service Commission of Oregon:
First, that we commend as being liberal
In concept and progressive in spirit and
act the manner in which the company and
lts'employes are attempting to adjust peace
fully their wage and employment problems.
Investigation Is Expected.
Second, that we declare - our confidence
end belief to be that the Publlo Service
Commissioners of Oregon will not permit
any burden of increased cost or curtailment
of future streetcar service to accrue -to our
selves as patrons, or to the city generally,
by any act or decision of theirs, except:
(a) That such be Justified beyond a reasonable-
doubt after an exhaustive investi
gation ofthe company's affairs by the Com
missioners and their engineers and account
ants. ...
(b) That such an investigation must take
Into account the enforcement of any and
all possible economies and efficiency in op
eration. r
c That rates shall be determined upon
a reasonable return upon the true valuation
of the company's Investment in property
actually used and truly useful to the public
service In question.
d That ithe reasonableness of the de
mands of the employes, upon which we
understand the company primarily bases Its
request for added revenue, shall be duly
considered by the Commissioners.
Present Rate Favored.
Third That we prefer, naturally, and so
urge that the present standard of service
t the present cost for same to the patrons
hall be maintained if investigation by the
Commission proves this to be possible and
just to all -parties concerned, viz., the pub
lic, the company and Its employes.
Fourth That in general we recognize the
merit and Justice of the demands made npon
the company by its employes, as reported in
the press and understood by us.
Fifth Finally, that we remind the "com
pany that its best interests as a going and
profitable concern are dependent upon its
conserving the like interests of its patrons
and our city and that we declare as ,hnrt.
sighted and hurtful any non-recognition of
this fact by It or its representatives or em
ployes when making any demand upon the
Commission or the public for relief from al
leged; burdens; and be it further
Resolved, that the declarations herein eon.
tained shall likewise be served upon our
-Mayor ana ny commissioners as an Indi
cation of our opinions and desires la the
matter unaer question.
Speakers of the evening were Frank
lin T. Griffith, president of the Port
land .Railway, Light & Power Com
pany; Henry E. McGinn, ex-Circuit
Judge of Multnomah County, for the
people; William s. U Ren. for the em
ployes of the streetcar company, and
E. W. Rossman, who was manager
tor the jitneys just prior to the recent
city election, at which they w
"knocked out,"
Shouts Sustain Attorney.
W. K. Royal, chairman of the com
mittee named by the Alberta Commer
cial Club to arrange for the meeting.
announced that Mr. Griffith would be
fne first speaker, to be followed by Mr.
U'Ren, but the latter refused to pre
cede Judge McGinn and Mr. Rossman,
on the ground that he "had a right to
know what they . were protesting
about."
There was much noise and hooting
oer mis atutuae on the part of Mr.
IT'Ren, but he refused to budge, and
finally, when M. C. George, who was
placed In the chair, ruled that Mr,
U'Ren should follow the original sched
ule. Mr. TTRen appealed to the meeting
and was sustained, if shouting and
noise may be believed: at any rate, he
forced the issue and Judge McGinn lost
no time in telling "what his protest
was.
Mr. Griffith Tells Troubles.
Mr. Griffith got a respectful hearing
throughout. He explained from the
- standpoint of the company that its
funds cannot bear the weight of grant
ing the sought-for increase upon the
part of its employes, although It
wished to grant them, and said in
creased fares are the only solution
therefore the request to the State Com
mission for relief.
He said that every penny of the cor
poration's business has been publicly
accounted for; that its books are kept
according to the rules . prescribed by
the State and Interstate Commerce
Commissions and that nothing 'is hidden
from the people, who. he declared, he
sincerely holds to be the real partners
ot the concern, as he has many times
called them.
"There is a vast difference between
the corporations of 30 years ago, when
the policy was to give as little as pos
sible and get as much as possible," said
Mr. Griffith. "With conditions as they
are today, the company Is not able,
without increased fares, to meet the de
mands made upon it, although we feel
that the men are within their rights
and are entitled to the Increase asked.
You do not like to pay the increased
fare, of course, but neither do you like
to pay other increased prices; yet we
all have to do so and are doing so. The
5-cent fare can no longer carry the
company and give It the opportunity to
treat its men like men."
Mr. Griffith was often cheered.
Juda-e McGinn Opposes Increase.
"McGinn will cut the Gordian. knot
and talk," was the first charge hurled
by the next speaker, and the ex-Judge
proceeded without delay to meet Mr.
U'Ren's objections and to tell of the
people's- protests.
"The Portland Railway, Light & Pow
er Company has cards in its cars, carry
ing a lot of 'Don'ts,' " shouted the
Judge. "I'm going to ask them to pul
up another 'Don't raitse your fares." "
Judge McGinn was cheered for fully
a minute and, finally, put up his hand
to silence the crowd.
"Keep still," he shouted at the top
of his voice. "You're taking up mj
time. I want to say to the Portland
Railway, Light & Power Company,
that, if it knows what is good for it, it
will never . permit this increase in
fares. (Cheers.) If you people let it
put over" this thing, it will be the big
gest bunco that's happened in many a
long day. They've got no right to raise
fares the city charter says so; the
state has no right to meddle in this;
it's the city's business, and I call upon
the Mayor and City Commissioners to
stop it. If the state allows, this In
crease, you should repeal at once - the
law which put the Jitney out of busi
ness and restore the jitney.
"Mr. Griffith is an honorable' man;
he's in a hard position, but he's trying
to do something that the 'grand old
man of Oregon' Dr. McLoughlin
could not do in the early days when
the Hudson's Bay Company told him to
'Treat the Indians well, but send us
good dividends.' It can't be done, and
Mr. Griffith can't do it; he can't serve
two masters. I say to you people here
tonight, fight' this proposed increase
with all the power at your command
The company's franchises stipulate 5
cents as a fare, and if they try to do
anything more than that they forfeit
their franchises."
Hisses Greet Mr. U'Ren.
Mr. U'Ren met with difficulty from
the start and was hissed, jeered and
laughed' at when he was about half
through with his 20 minutes. He said
the employes were striving to better
their conditions and had put their pe
tition before the company, . only . to be
told it could not be granted on present
rates; then it was filed with the State
Commission with the request for an in
vestigation to see what might be done.
"I challenge any man or woman to
say what is fair and right in this mat
ter unless they have studied it and
know the facts." said Mr. U'Ren. "I
put in a lot of time and was at the
investigation, but I did not see- any of
the members of the Alberta Club com
mittee there. It is true, as I said at
first, that this meeting is a protest, in
spite of the club's statement to the
contrary."
Mr. Rossman said that he could not
understand "why you people voted to
put the Jitney out of business and gave
the big corporation full control of the
traffic of the city."
He declared that the jitney could, if
permitted to continue, have worked
out a plan whereby he believed a 6-cent
fare could have been granted, even to
Lents and Linnton. He said the Jitney
men offered to put up $20,000 cash with
the city to continue, but it could not be
accepted on account of the law requir
ing a surety bond. He said that within
24 hours, if given a chance, good jitney
service would be given the city again.
KERENSKY'S FALL IS NEAR
(Continued From First Page.)
the influences of General . Korniloff 's
venture, says a statement given out by
the official . news agency, which re
ports that the chief committee for
revolutionary ' security has arrested
Deputy Dorima Schaenghine and sup
pressed his newspaper, the Kievlianin,
one of the most important journals
published in South Russia.
Government Conducts Raids.
Simultaneously . the houses of per
sons in private life and of officials
who were partisans of the old regime
have been searched.
At Odessa, Minsk and Mohilev, and
in other towns, numerous officers who
had declared in favor of General
Korniloff have been arrested, as have
prominent politicians believed still to
be in sympathy, with the old regime.
Among the latter was Deputy Rimsky
Korsakoff, the former president of the
League of the Russian People.
Probe to Be Started.
The provisional government, accord
ing to the - Russian - official news
agency, has sent an extraordinary
special' commission to the Russian
army headquarters in the field to in
vestigate the Kornilqpf affair.
Convinced that General Korniloff's
rebellion is definitely at an end, al
though the General himself has not
formally surrendered, the leaders at
Petrograd are setting about the re
construction of the government.
Formation of a new Cabinet is said
to be well along toward completion.
Many Troops Surrender.
The submission of so many of the
troops and leaders who were adhering
to General Korniloff apparently has
left the leader of the revolt in a posi
tion of helplessness. He is said to
have notified the government of his
intention to surrender upon the arrival
at his headquarters of General Alex-
ieff, who has become chief of staff
under Premier Kerensky, now commander-in-chief
of the Russian armies.
One of Korniloff's principal supporters.
General Kaladines, chief - of the Cos
sacks, is reported to have been ar
rested.
Meanwhile the Russian army at the
front, particularly in the northern sec
tor. is displaying a fighting spirit, and
according to the official statements is
regaining some of the ground recently
abandoned to the Germans in the Riga
district. . .
Several Villages Are Taken.
Several' villages have been occupied
probably In a movement to consolidate
the Russian positions and organizing a
defensive line which would be cohesive
In case of attack.
The director of communications. M.
Llverovsky, was able to announce that
railroad communication had been re
stored on the Warsaw, Moscow-Windau
and other interrupted lines, which all
today resumed the transport of freight.
Socialists Help Kerensky.
An. officer who arrived here today
from General Korniloff's headquarters
at Mohilev gave the first authoritative
account of the events there at the out
break of the rebellion.
The officer said that last Saturday a
number of infantry, "striking battal
ions," volunteers and picked men, the
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backbone of General Korniloff's brief
Galician offensive early last Summer,
left headquarters. They had been in
formed they were needed to reinforce
the Riga front, but the real aim was to
march them against Petrograd.
That night Korniloff prepared his
first proclamation to the army, order
ing the printing of vast numbers of it.
The Socialist compositors later received
Premier Kerensky's proclamation, and
while diligently printing that of Korni
loff also printed secretly Kerensky's
and circulated it everywhere.
Attack on Rebel Ordered.
Meanwhile the local Council of Dep
uties began a vigorous demonstration
among the " striking battalions. The
Kerensky proclamation caused dissen
sion among the troops and a majority
of them sent a demand to Korniloff
that they immediately be sent back to
the front. A battalion of the cavaliers
of St. George seceded from the rebellion
and announced that they would die for
the provisional government and issued
orders to attack Korniloff.
The local civilians were anti-Korni-
loff, but the local union of officers of
the army and the fleet appealed to them
to support Korniloff, declaring that he
was Russia s only salvation.
Another officer says that he. with
one officer from the all-Moscow regi
ments, was summoned to Mohilev.
Report of Plot Misleads.
"In Petrograd," the officer said, he
was told "there has been planned a new
Bolsheviki uprising, in which are im
plicated some of the ministers and the
object of which is to conclude a sep
arate peace and send disbanded soldiers
from house to house to massacre the
bourgeoise. Without help from the
front It is Impossible to defeat the plot.
General Korniloff already has sent part
of the army to Petrograd and his plan
is to appoint himself temporary dictator."
This officer says that every officer
received 150 rubles for expenses. The
officers, he added, on Monday returned
to Moscow, where they read Kerensky's
proclamations and realized the truth of
the situation.
RUSSIAN CABINET MEN RESIGN
Vice-Premier and Minister of For
eign Affairs Quit Posts.
LONDON, Sept. 14. The Petrograd
correspondent of Renter's, Limited,
states that Vice-Premier N. V. Nekra
soff has informed the press that he
and M. Terestchenko, Minister of For
eign Affairs, have decided to leave
their posts in the Cabinet, considering
that their participation in the govern
ment narrowed their political horizon
and, being only business Ministers,
without party, support, they did not
possess sufficient strength in the Cabi
net. The Vice-Premier also announced
the withdrawal from the Cabinet of
M. Pieschehonoff, Minister of Food and
Supplies.
Other changes in the Cabinet include
the retirement of M. Tchernoff, Minis
ter of Agriculture, who will be replaced
by M. Avskentieff, present Minister of
the Interior, who, in turn, will be suc
ceeded by M. Kischkin, a Constitutional
Democrat. M. Koarepiefe, Minister of
Communications, has also resigned.
8-CEflT hiILK IS AIM
Possibility Is Foreseen if City
Takes Over Control.
METHODS NOW WASTEFUL
Phone your want ads to The Orego
gonian. Main 7070. A 6095.
Robert Ireland, of Portland-Damascus
Mi 11c Company, Ponits Out
Where Great Savins
. Could Be Effected.
Centralized distribution stations, un
der municipal control, with the com
pulsory pasteurization of all milk not
certified or guaranteed, were strongly
advocated last night in testimony giv
en before the emergency milk commis
sion, which met at the Courthouse in
a hearing on milk distribution with re
lation to the problem of Portland's
dwindling supply and mounting prices.
The bulk of testimony was given by
Robert Ireland, president of the Portland-Damascus
Milk Company, who de
clared that remedial measures soon
must be adopted if dealers are to be
restrained from deserting an increas
ingly unprofitable field. Mr. Ireland
announced that he was ready at any
time to turn his "milk business over. to
the city for a six-months' period, if
municipal officials believe they hold a
clew to the solution of maintaining
service.
The gist of Mr. Ireland's testimony
was that a material saving could be
effected in distribution reforms. Wag
ons now carrying from 400 to 500 pints,
he. testified, at a cost of 214 cents per
quart, should carry 500 quarts, effect
ing a. saving of 14 cents per quart.
The adoption of a ticket system would
effect a further saving of one-half
cent per quart, while a reform in the
bottle system would bring about a sav
ing of one-half cent. Under the last
reform customers would be required
to present a bottle or Its equivalent in
cash before the delivery of milk.
Mr. Ireland's figures showed that the
actual value of the quart when offered
at retail is a fraction over 11 cents,
whereas it sells for a fraction under
that figure. The average cost of re
tail and wholesale milk, combined, to
the selling concern was given as 9V4
cents per quart.
Asserting that a saving of 24 cents
could be made through distribution re
form, Mr. Ireland said that the average
cost a quart for the combined wholesale-
and retail trade should approxi
mate but 7 cents.
"Would you be willing to undertake
to supply Portland with milk at an
average of 8 cents a quart, if these re
forms were in effect?" he was asked
by Chairman Henry E. Reed.
"Yes," was the reply.
That the operation of two centralized
milk depots by the city, where dealers
would consign their product for distri
bution by districts, would go far to
ward lowering the cost of distribution
was Mr. Ireland's suggestion.
Mr. Ireland declared that thousands
of bottles are used by housewives for
canning purposes. Another drain on
the bottle supply was the persistent
theft of milk. The loss on this ac
count alone for combined dealers of
Portland approaches $60,000 yearly,
testified the witness.
The commission adjourned until
Monday night at 8 o'clock, when the
hearing on distribution will be contin
ued. On Tuesday night the hearing of
testimony on production will open.
TEUTONS REPLY TO POPE
CONCILIATORY DECLARATIONS ARB
MADE REGARDING TERRITORIES.
Emphasis Said to Be Laid on Condition
That Allies Must Show Dewlre
to Dlscnss Questions.
AMSTERDAM. Sept. 14. The reply
of the central powers to the peace note
of Pope Benedict, says a Vienna dls
patch to the Tijd, begins by declaring
that they regard the papal proposals as
a suitable basis for peace negotiations.
Regarding the exchange of occupied
territories, arbitration. disarmament
and similar proposals, declarations are
made, the dispatch adds, which testify
to the idealism of the central powers
and their sincere desire for peace which
win insure happiness to all nations.
viitinaiory aeciarations also are
made respecting the settlement of the
Balkan question. Poland and the res
toratlon of Belgium, but emphasis Is
lam on the condition that the allied
powers must also give serious evidence
of a desire for peace by a Joint and
benevolent discussion of the questions
which now separate the nations.
The repfy. it is said, will be published
as Boon as the consent of the papal
nuncio at Vienna Is obtained.
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