THE 3IORXIXG OREGOIAN, V.WKDXESDAT, DECEMBER 20, 1916. NOTE VOID OF PEACE BASES, SAYS ITALY None Would Reject Abruptly Satisfactory Proposals, . . Deputies Are Told. BRITISH PREMIER, 'WHO TESTERDAY OUTLINED NATION'S I ATTITUDE TOWARD GERMAN PEACE PROPOSALS t BEFORE HOUSE OF COMMONS. i ENTENTE TERMS WITHHELD .- m German Communication Regarded as v Boastful and Insincere by For eign 3IInlster -Vote of Con--.. fidenco Given by Chamber, EXCERPTS KBOM ITALIAN FORKIG'Y MINISTER'S SPEECH. "There Is no sign of bases for negotiations in the enemy's note. "I possess information, in re gard to eventual cnditions' of peace, beyond the note. "It would be neither practical nor proper to discuss that ques tion today. "If we were in the presence of genuine proposals, with bases of a nature to satisfy, none would reject them abruptly." ROME, Dae. 18, via Paris, Dec 19. Foreign Minister Sonnino spoke in the Chamber of Deputies today in reply to several resolutions which had been In troduced in the Chamber in regard to the peace proposals of the central pow ers claimed to be based on the supposi tion that the government had, or would have, concrete and precise indications as to the, basis on which negotiations would be opened. "As I said on the day before yester day, this supposition does not corre spond with the facts." tie Foreign Min ister continued. "There' is no sign of conditions or bases for negotiations in the enemy's note. I possess Informa tion in regard to eventual conditions of peace beyond the note from the enemy which I read in the Chamber. Discussion Held Improper. "Should preparations be made subse quently, we should consider what to do, but it would be neither practical nor proper to discuss that question today. Moreover, it should be under stood clearly that no one of the en tente allies can take into consideration any condition whatever which by hy pothesis might be eventually offered to him under separate form. In the public interest and out of respect to tne allied government, I cannot communicate to you anything whatever as to the sub stance of the answer w( shall give to the note of the four enemy powers. The answer will be published as soon as it Is drawn up. "We all wish peace, and lasting peace. But we consider a lasting peace to be a, careful settlement whose dura tion depends not- on the solidarity of the fetters with which one people is held subject to anothex, but on an ex act balance among the states, based on respect for the principal nationali ties, rules laid down in the laws of na tions and reasons of humanity and civilization. "If we were In the presence of gen uine proposals, with bases of a nature to satisfy the general postulates of civilization and Justice which I have Just mentioned, none would reject them abruptly. But there is nothing to show even faintly that this is the case and there are many reasons for believing the contrary. Kote Regarded mm Insincere. "I do not desire to use exaggerated language, but the accent of boastful- ness and the lack of sincerity which characterize the preamble of the ene my's note certainly Inspire no belief that these mysterious peace conditions which the central empires announce they have the intention of exposing later on, with the object of guarantee ing the existence, honor and free do velopment of their peoples, do const! tute an answer to the postulates we nave laid down." Baron Sonnino appealed to the depu ties or all parties in the words of Pre mier Brland, of France, not to permit the move of the central powers to "poi son the minds of the people," and to urge them to refrain from "playing the enemy's" game" by giving way to rash or untimely manifestations which might implant the germs or division and dls couragement. He asked them not to vote any order of the day which might let it be supposed that the attitude of Italy differed from that of her allies, Amid an outburst of cheering for Baron Sonnino, the Chamber voted the order or the day pure and simple; lm plying confidence ,ln the government and further ordered that the Foreign Minister's speech be placarded through out Italy. The vote on the order of the day was 276 to 49. TURK IS DEFIANT Grants Pass Man to Get Pension. OREGONIAN NEWS BUREAU, Wash ington, Dec. 19. 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Minister Trepoff concerning the agreement between the entente al lies with regard to the disposition of Constantinople af ter the war. The Russian Minister, Trepoff, lar alms, in addition to the general plans of the alliance with which it is connected, and because historical pre cedent shown conclusively that without direct negotiations and exchange of views by representatives in a confer ence the breach between enemies Is not likely to narrow. The German view, however, is that it is not improbable that Germany may should. Great Britain ask It. be Svilling to make some preliminary- statement of principle regarding terms, especially if failure to take such action should be the only barrier to the entente's agreeing to send representatives to a conference. Germany Wllllnjc to Answer. On the other hand, great emphasis is placed upon the statement that If the entente should refuse a conference Ger many and her allies would regard it as a refusal to talk of peace. Germany, It Is said here, will answer any note Great Britain and her allies send, orovldinor. ox course, the eommu nlcatlon does not flatly decline the Teutonic proposal to enter into nego lations. No secret was made of the fact that Germany will use every means known to -diplomacy in her effort to bring about a conference. Mr. Lloyd George's declaration that to accept the German proposals as con tained In the note transmitted through the United States would be to put "our heads In a noose" was met in German quarters by the statement that no vet of belligerents would In any way en danger itself by appearing at a con ference to enter Into direct negotia tions. It was added If the entente repre Walil R i. o. seniawves am noi nae oeveiopmems "conirtPrV, it nn8a .ct,r th hthey could withdraw Immediately, rep breakdown of Roumania to delude the downhearted Russian people by hold ing before their eyes a. dream of the conquest of Constantinople. He de clared that France and England had agreed with Russia to support Rus sia s despotism Over Constantinople and that the Russian people must know why they were shedding their blood. We have not the habit of bragging. We answer the fantastic ideas of Trepoff with, a'' reality of facts, and we thank God that he has allowed our flfes to wave victoriously on the Rou manian passes that is the shortest road from Russia to Constantinople. They began this war drunk with am bitious pretensions and pursuing fan tastic plans. We fight and we march on- the way of truth and will continue to do so confiding in the Almighty and support by the force of our army and sacrifices of our nation. We are ready for peace but are prepared for war." WHEAT MARKET UPSET SEXSATIONAX RISE OF 714 CEXTS IN DAY .LOST BEFORE CLOSE. Price Drops Cent Alore Wnen Gossip Says Way to Peace Conference ' Sot Barred by Britain. CHICAGO. Dec. 19. Despite a sensa tional advance of IV cents In wheat today, based on reports of the British Premier's 'speech discussing the Ger man peace offer, the market fell back i Vz cents, owing chiefly to widespread gossip tnat tne way Lo a peace con ference had not yet been barred. Ex cited selling accompanied the late set back in prices and there was a wild close. . . At the topmost point of the rise wheat values had recovered about 18 cents a bushel since the lowest Friday, The upturn -led to extensive profit-taking- by holders, but the selling 'did not assume a runaway character until reports under London datelines ap peared in print here asserting .that the door was ajar for specific peace terms irom Germany and that a. peace con ference was yet possible. : Final prices showed the general In decision, December c lower at S1.-53, May unchanged to 54c higher-at $1.644 to 1.65s and July c to be net higher at tl.38 to $1,387. DOOR IS THOUGHT OPEN (Continued From First Pave.) Ing caused the war and of having brought about conditions under which peace was morally wrong. Neverthe less, .with this predicted diplomatic move out of the way, officials- foresee the opportunity, almost the. Invitation, for Germany to make another cautious advance which, finally may bring out the minimum basis of contention. German Embassy Optimistic German embassy officials were opti mistic because the British Premier .did not flatly refuse to enter into a dls cussion. At the same time they dep recated the suggestion that definite peace terms might ' be set forth in formal notes. The German view, as re fleeted here. Is that nothing can be achieved by a public discussion of terms, for the.reason that each set of belligerents is bound to ask more than it actually expects to receive, because there are so many belligerents, each striving to gain realizatioaol partlcu resentatives of the central powers re serving the same right. ' Reparation Question for Both, Regarding .guarantees the entente will require for the future and the gen eral subject of reparation, German diplomats were sure their government would, at least, be willing to enter a discussion. Germany holds to the view that-if" one set of belligerents brings up the subject of reparation, the other may with propriety do so, and that she would have claim for damage, in Po land. Galicla and East Prussia, which have suffered from the armies of the entente. However, Germany is repre sented as perfectly willing to discuss in a conference any and all subjects re lating to reparation, and it was pointed out it was cheaper tor any belligerent or set of belligerents to make repara tion -than to continue the war at least until next Fall, when, it already has been decided, Germany will again of fer to enter peace negotiations should the present efforts fail. The reiteration- in Lloyd George's speech of Bethmann-Hollwegs demand for guarantees or a peace that should be permanent centered attention again on what , each party considers might insure such guarantee. Partial univer sal disarmament has been mentioned at the German Embassy here in dls patches from Berlin, while Lloyd George today hinted at the substitu tion of popular for secret diplomacy. Reparation Is Stumbling Block. The allied emphasis on reparation is regarded by American officials as one of' the stumbling-blocks in the negotiations at present, for. it is feared Germ.' ly is in no mood to do more than .bandon some of her military conquests. No clear statement has been made as to what is meant by reparation, but it is assumed that with the allies it iooks zorwara to tne res toration of the devastated parts -ol Frarfce, Belgium, Poland and Serbia. The subject of guarantees for the fu ture is regarded V German officials here as being so Intricate as to be Im possible of solution without lengthy consideration, Guarantees for the - future and the British Premier's remarks regarding Prussian militarism were considered in German quarters as being somewhat related, at least in the British view point. Limitation of armaments and the regulatory measures which neces sarlly would develop from a league to maintain and enforce peace might, it was suggested,- result satisfactorily to Great Britain. Guarantee More Than Peace. Guarantees for the future, in th German, view, is taken to mean much more than peace terms. Guarantees, it was said, would have mutually to be secured by all the nations Involved in this war. as well as the neutrals. It 1 contended that the European belliger ents could not regulate ' tfielr arma ments without the same regulation applying also to the neutrals, includ ing the United States. One of the most interesting -features of the Premier s speech tram the Amerr lean viewpoint was his reference to nationalization of Great Britain's shlD ping. W'Jvile' Just what is contemplated is not clear, it is realized that any such step might have a far-reaching effect upon American commerce, and might take. British shipping out of the realm of discussion in connection with submarine warfare. 7 70 Horses Bring $21,000. CHICAGO, Dec.-19. Seventy horses sold today at the annual sale of horse at the stock-yards brought an aver age of J300 each. - Colorado horses in eluding the trotter A. R. i. 2U3U iH be sold tomorrow. ASQU1TH DEMANDS m DEFINITE ANSWER So-Called Peace Proposals" Declared "Wrapped Up in Prussian Arrogance." ULTERIOR MOTIVE IS SEEN Ex-Premier Says Finance and Trans- port Situation Are Serious, bnt - Do Not -"Justify Slisgiv- Ings or 1 Alarm. , ; "; LONDON, Dec 19. The former Premier. Mr.'Asquith. after declaring that his first duty was' to extend con gratulations, which he did with all his heart, to Mr. Lloyd George -upon his accession to the highest and most Im portant office in the service 'of the crown, made a brief but pointed ref erence today in th House of Com mons to the question" of peace. Tie. country," he said "has Just re ceived some so-called peace proposals irom Germany. True, these proposals are wrapped up with the familiar dia lect of Prussian arrogance. But how comes it. after two years of war, that a power which professes Itself con scious of military superiority and ulti mate victory begins to whisper nay, even to -shout so that all the world can hear the word 'peace' T 'Is this from a sudden access of chivalry? 'When, did the German Chancellor become so sensitive to the dictates of humanity? . "Precarious Compromise" Rejected. TIT . . . .. . In.l. naa V. origin of these proposals. They are born of military and economic neces sity. We all yearn for peace; but it. must be honorable, not a shame-faced peace. There must be no patched-up, precarious compromise. It must be a peace tnai acmeves me purpose ir peace we should gladly achieve. Any- in i ii K onorx . oi it i o wmuu repudiate by every obligation of honor to those who have given their lives Q ma cause. jl see nuinutg ii i,,a ...... Germany which gives me the least reason to oeueve mat wicy we -pared to give us reparation and se curity. If they are in such a mood, if they are prepared to give us repara tion for the past and security for the future, let them say so." Mr. Asqulth, in congratulating ir. t . . . I 1 v.a 1 V, . sunk r V, AA 1t WAS -not becaUSO he claimed to De me icauer opposition, upposmon, mere and his great desire was to place at the disposal of the government what ever experience he possessed. Slackness in Past Denied. VIUllO b " . . . . the almost unsupported -urden.. oon tinued Mr. Asqulth. It also was a mat- . i l V A ter of regret to ieavo uukuiduou taste ior woioii " -" , it. t a 1 1 ty"i a triA role of aooloerist i . .v. . i . mnnTiint.jind ha denied that there had been slackness on his ar.T. -c-fm 1Ttnister also spoke of the general situation, sayig: . . . ..(.aprllnff finance and l no piusu. . transport are serious, but not so serious as to Justify misgivings- or alarm. But the difficulties will not be solved, as some seem to think, who mistake bustle for business and vehem ence for strength, by short cuts or a series of coups 0.0 main. , -Mr. TJovd George about Roumania; it has been bad busi ness, and it is iraposMuio i .v the degree of responsibility therefor. . 1. illustration of the urgent necessity of more intimate co-operatlon." LUXEMBURG MEN TAKEN BELGIANS SAY DEPORTATIONS ARE BEING EXTENDED. Members of' Rational Food and Aid Committee Said to Have Been Com pelled to Leave Their Homes. rr . ttt ir nu 1QTVia Pol cA a Vi rnT. ernment has been advised that deporta tions have begun at Woluw St. Etlenne. a short distance northeast of Brussels, but that up to December. 4 none had been made from the capital itself. m, n r e-nvrnment savs that the villages in the province of Luxemburg are Being swept 01 nue bodled malas. The larger part of the v..... ny th nntiona.1 food and aid committees' at Arlon, the chief town of the province or LuxemDurg, are De clared to have been arrested and de- . - .uk,.v, tViAv had certificates given for their protection by the mil itary authorities. 11 v. . 1. - .nmmltti deDorted were not out of work. but. with other men. were engaged in the iron, stone and wood industries. ,. The government reports" said that .nni of country people were at the railway stations and wit nessed, the deportations, inemeu singing national airs and shouting. -We did not sign!" meaning that they had refused to sign the averring that they were going will ingly. " IDo lTcftir Shopping" Uarly Early in the Day-'-I If on Please Positively Our Store Will Not "Open Evenings Until Xmas the Business Hours of This Store Will 'Be From 9 A. M. (B3iiJ Until 6 P. M. SHOP - BT MAIL. IT'S COSVEMEXT . Convenient, because we make special effort to serve our mail custom ers carefully,' and it is tlmesavlng for you who live out of town.. Free parcel post deliveries to all points in this' state. K On purchases of $5.00 or - over, express charges prepaid to within 10 miles of Portland. 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CZAR BEGINS REPRISALS GERMAN OFFICERS RESTRICTED TO PRISOiV CAMP FOOD. Action Will Be Rescinded,' Bays Fetro Crsd, When Berlin Permits Rus sians to RecelT Gift Rations. LONDON, Dec. 19. A dispatch to Reuters Telegram Company Irom Pe trograd says: "It is announced that Russia recently rave Germany, a fortnight's, warnins that it Russian officer prisoners" in con centration camps were -not allowed to receive food through Russian commit tees in neutral-countries, German of ficer prisoners of Russia would .be re stricted to state rations and forbidden to make local purchases. - "The fortnight having elapsed with out a German reply, Russia's new reg ulations are being applied. The prison ers haVe been informed of the cause of them and told that they will be re scinded immediately Germany permits the distribution of suf piles-to 'Russian prisoners. , . . REFERENDUM IS DEFEATED Senator Tnderwood to Try Again to Have Question Sifbinitted to Residents, Following Tie on II is Amendment. -WASHINGTON'. Dec. 19. The way wafc cleared In the. Senate today for a final vote on Senator Sheppard's bill for prohibition In the District of Co lumbia, and it will be put on passage tomorrow. Friends of the measure ex pect It -to pass, i . The main issue came over Senator Underwood's amendment -. providing a referendum of the question to District residents. The amendment was beaten In committee of the whole, SS to 38. Senator Underwood gave notice that he would ask for a separate vote on It when the bill with amendments came us for final action- There Is little chance that the tie can be broken by Vice-President Mar shal, since he Is to leave Washington before the Senate convenes tomorrow. 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