4 THE MORNING OKEGONIAN, TTJESDAT, NOVE3IBER 14, 1916. CAPTAINS HELD ON DIVER AS SHIPS SINK Explosion of Torpedoes Fired From U-49 Is Heard by Imprisoned Masters. FOUR PUT IN DARK CABIN Crews Arc Warned and Left in Life boats, Then the Steamers Are Destroyed by Submarine JIauocd by Tonng Crew. COIiUNNA. Spain, via Faris, Nov. 13. Captain Frederick Curtis, of the American steamer Columbian, who ar rived here with the rescued crew of the steamship, declared to a representa tive of the Associated Press today that he was a prisoner on board the German submarine U-49 for six days after the destruction of his vessel. All of 'the 109 members of the Columbian's crew were saved. Captain Curtis 6tated. Captain Curtis said the Columbian was warned before she was torpedoed and sunk by the U-49. The crew was left In lifeboats and the captain was taken on board the submarine. " British Captain Also Held. Captain Arthur Patterson, of the British steamer Seatonia, says that he also was a prisoner on board the U-49 for eight days, during which time he heard the guns of the submarine In action and also heard distinctly the ex plosion of the torpedo which he learned tater blew tip the Norwegian ship, Balto, soon after which Captain Yelug een, of the Norwegian ship Fordalen, Joined him in the narrow prison on hoard the submarine, where they were Joined on the following day by Cap tain CurtiB. "My ship, registered, at New York." paid Captain Curtis to the correspond ent, "carried a cargo of about 9000 tons and a crew of 109. all of whom were eaved. "I stopped on' the command of the submarine, whose commander ordered me to abandon ship with the crew im mediately, which we did without other baggage than two satchels with docu ments and money. t Torpedo Reported '"lrrd "Submarine U-49 fired at once two torpedoes at the Columbian, which sank immediately. The crew was left in lifeboats, while I was taken on board the submarine, which plunged imme diately after I was taken into the small quartermaster's cabin, where 1 found the captain of the Seatonia and the Balto. After me came Captain Yelugsen, of the Fordalen. "The cabin was very small. It con tained a little folding table, a folding chair and three bunks. "Everything was permeated with the odor of benzine. There was no com munication with the exterior and the cabin was absolutely dark night and day. Poor Food la Served Prisoners. "TV'e were fed In the morning with a few morsels of black bread, a cup of cocoa and a small portion of bad but ter; at noon with a stew of canned meat and soup and at supper at 10 o'clock with coffee or tea and black bread, with butter or marmalade. The hours spent in this narrow prison were very long and disagreeable." The captain of the submarine, Cap tain Curtis said, was about 36 years old, while his crew ofs40 sailors were all very young. All were attired in clothing of glossy leather.. Captains Allowed on Deck. Captains Curtis and Paterson, relat ing their experiences, said that they were allowed at intervals between the operations of the submarine to go on deck to smoke. They were watched on deck by members of the crew armed with revolvers but when they went be low the crew put aside their weapons. There was only one chair in the cabin. which the captains used in turns, oth erwise they had to lie on the bunks. The submarine signaled the Swedish steamer Varing, 13 miles off the Span ish port of Camarines, toward noon, November 9. The steamer stopped and was ordered to take aboard the cap tains and land them. She also was or dered to take aboard the crews of the Columbian and Norwegian steamers. All were welcomed aboard the Varing. The submarine watched the operation and then ordered the Varing to make for the coast, six miles from Camarlnes. The Varing was directed to set out lifeboats and embark the shipwrecked men in them. This was a long and difficult operation, arid an American from the Columbian fell into the sea and narrowly escaped drowning. He was slightly injured while being res cued. "Next Morning" Headaches r (By Dr. I 'W. Bower.) One of the characteristic headaches due to uric acid in the system, which acts as a poison when it accumulates, is due to alcohol taken the night before. The kidneys do not suo eed In throwing off this poisonous accumulation, the stomach is nauseated, or-the blood con gests in the head, causing throbbing pain, called headache the heart is depressed, circulation of blood poor to the extremities, the muscles feel tired. or twinges of pain here and there are felt, and when this uric acid is deposit ed in the tissues or Joints It causes rheumatism or gout. I always advise the drinking of hot water,' a half pint in the morning, and a little Anuric. Sometimes the "blues." or a sort of rash, or pimply face, gives warning of a "uric acid storm." At such times always take this Anuric, which can be obtained at almost any drug store, and which you will find dissolves the uric acid almost as hot water does sugar. Avoid too much meat, tea -and alco hol. Drink an abundance of water, both hot and cold. Take Anuric three times a day until the bad symptoms all sub- Hide. This is the best way to avoid rheumatism and many of the pains and aches due to a uric acid condition. If you drink any alcoholic beverage you Should keep the kidneys and liver ac tive with Anuric so as to throw off the poisons which accumulate. If your tongue is coated a dark brown taste, breath foul, followed sometimes by colds, indigestion, biliousness, consti pation or sour acid stomach, you should take some vegetable laxative. Such a one Is made in sugar-coated form from the Slay-apple, leaves of aloe, and root of Jalap, and commonly sold by almost all druggists as Pr. Pierce's Pleasant ! Pellets. They are standard and have been in ready-to-use form for nearly fifty years. Adv. Reduced Rates , New Perkins Hotel FIFTH AND . WASHINGTON STS.. "Where the City Life Centers." PORTLAND. OREGON, fackson, who has served this county OFFICIAL WAR REPORTS British. LONDON. Nov. 13. The text of to day's official report on the fighting- in the French front is: "This morning: we attacked on both sides of the Ancre, capturing; a con siderable number of prisoners. "Hostile artillery activity continued during the night on our positions in the neighborhood of Lea Boeufs and Gueudecourt. Gas was successfully discharged by us against enemy trenches opposite Kans. The enemy's trenches were entered by us southeast of Armentieres." Germans on Roumanian Front. BERLIN. Nov. 13. (By wireless to Sayville. N. Y.) The following official account of German operations on the Houmanian front was issued today: "In the Gyergyo Mountains German and Austro-Hungarlan battalions cap tured Dicta and Arsurilo. There and on the heights east of Belbor, and also on the east bank of the Putna, the leoumanlans made several attacks in a futile effort to dispute with us the ground gained. Hostile advances in the mountains on both sides of Oltuz Pass were repulsed. "Northwest of Campulung our troops captured Candesti. Southeast of Roth enthurm Pass on the Szurduk road, and north of Orzova, Roumanian forces made counter attacks without success. In addition to their sacrifices in killed or wounded the Roumanians lost more than 1000 prisoners. 'Front of Field Marshal von Mack- ensen (Dobrudja) Hostile detach ments which were feeling their way along the Danube against the left wing of our position in Northern Uobrudja were pursued. Tchernavoda was shelled without success from the left bank of the Danube." Bulgarian. SOFIA, Nov. 12., via London, Nov. 13. An advance for the Serbians in the Cerna bend is admitted l.i the official state ment issued by the War Office today. The statement follows: "West of the Monastir-Florlna - rail way there was lively artillery action. Eastward and in the Cerna bend there was a desperate battle throughout yesterday and part of last night. All enemy attacks were broken. but the enemy succeeded in holding GERMAN RAIDERS SUNK RUSSIAN REPORT SAYS MOST OF ATTACK I .Vti CRAFT LOST. Baltic Port Shelled for Some Time Be fore Defenders Kind Eaemr Protected by Fog. PETROGRAD. via London. Nov. 13. An official statement Issued here to day says that a majority of German vessels which took part Friday in a bombardment in the Gulf of Finland were sunk.. The statement reads: "Baltic Sea On Friday night a flo tilla of the enemy's 36-knot torpedo craft entered the Bay of Finland. A dense fog hindered discovery of the enemy's vessels in good time and In consequence the enemy succeeded ' in bombarding the Baltic Coast for sev eral minutes. "About 100 shells, mostly shrapnel. were fired. Seven civilians, including five children- and two rank and file. were killed. One woman and four soldiers were wounded. Several houses were damaged and 12 ; horses were killed. - ' - "The enemy retired hurriedly, but we sank a majority of the torpedo craft. Further pursuit of hostile units was abandoned in consequence of dense fog and the timely discovery of the enemy's traps." BERLIN, via London. Nov. 13. Ger man torpedo-boat forces on Friday night enetered the Gulf of Finland and effectively shelled the Russian naval base of the Baltic port at short range, according to an official statement is sued today by the German admiralty. Baltic port is near the entrance to the Gulf of Finland, 38 miles west of the Russian naval station of RevaL The port is the terminus of the Baltic railroad. OREGON TROOPS SHIVER COLD DESCENDS ON BORDER, FIND ING MEN UN PREPARED. Government Allows Only Fuel Enough for Cooking No Winter Underwear, JVo Stoves Yet Forthcoming;. CALEXICO, Cal.. Nov. 12. (Special.) Winter has beaten the Government to the border here and the Oregon cav alry and artillery on duty awakened this morning to find their watering troughs bedecked with icicles and their water buckets frozen over. Three hun dred Oregonians shivered througn breakfast in the open' air and after drill took their daily shower baths in ice water. No Winter underwear, no stoves, no sheltered mees walls or other Winter quarters have yet been provided. Not even stoves for the Summer tentago have been provided and the men are al ready suffering from the old. except in the middle of the day, when it is intensely hot for several hours. Requisitions for these supplies were sent forward early In September. Requisitions for hot water heaters have been turned down. Open fires cannot be had because of the lack of fuel In this district. It is impossible to find fuel and the Government allows only enough for cooking meals. In spite of the freezing nights bat tery A moved miles west of this place for target practice and will bivouac for 10 days In the shelter tents used in the field. The troop moves out for tar get practice Wednesday, but by mak ing speedy marches will be able to re turn to camp nightly. BRITISH WIN IN DRIVE (Continued From First Fare.) villages of Beaumont-Hamel and St. Pierre Divion and gained new ground, which already has reached a depth of more than a mile at one point. Two thousand prisoners already have been taken to the cages. Attack Surprise to Germans. Severe fighting continues before Beaucourt-sur-Ancre, on the north bank of the river, and on the high ground about midway between Serre and Beaucourt-sur-Ancre, west of the road linking these villages. - Notwithstanding 'he long prevailing bad weather, with almost continuous rains, the attacking troops made good progress in No Man's Land, the mud having partially dried in the last two days. They were not impeded seriously by the German machine guns. The attack appears to have been to a large extent a surprise to the Ger mans, little resistance being offered at the first and second-line trenches ex cept before Serre. South of the Ancre the British line swept in a northeasterly direction to the river bank opposite Beaucourt, cut ting off the remaining fragment of the German position around St. Pierre Di- the heights and making a salient be fore our positions northeast of Polog. "In the Jloglenlca Valley there was weak artillery fire. West of the Var dar vigorous cannonading took place. It was calm on the other front except in the Dobrudja, where fighting oc curred at our advanced positions with out important 'results." French In Macedonia. PARIS. Nov. 13. The text of today's report on operations in. Macedonia is: "Smashed by our artillery fire in the center and attacked with the bayonet by Serbian infantry, the enemy was obliged to fall back in disorder, having sustained considerable loss. Further west, Serbian forces to which had been added contingents of French infantry, extended their progress to the north of Velyeselo (in the Cerna River bend). More than 1000 prisoners so far had been counted." "Sixteen more guns were captured on the ground abandoned by the enemy. Since September 14, when our offensive began, the Germans and Bulgarians have left in the hands of the entente allies 6090 prisoners, 73 cannon and S3 machine guns." Germans on Western Front. BERLIN. Nov. 13. (By wireless to Sayville, N. Y.) The text of today's official report of the fighting in the west is: "Between the Ancre River and the Somme River there was intermittent strong artillery fighting. "In Sailly-Saillisel we hold the east edge of the town. On both sides of the village the French attacked, but were repulsed. "A French advance north of Doller, in Upper Alsace, failed." .French. PARIS. No. 13. The text or today's official statement Is: "Nino bombarding airplanes- and seven escorting planes of the British Royal Naval air service bombarded blast furnaces and foundries at Saint Ingbert, northeast of Saarbrucken, in the basin of the Sarre. AU the machines returned. "Two German machines last night dropped bombs on Belfort. Five civilians were killed." vlon, while simultaneously Beaumont Hamel was attacked from the opposite bank. All the positions of the Germans north of the Ancre were of exceptional strength, Beaumont-Hamel equalling Thiepval in the extent and security of Its labyrinth of dugouts, while the German engineers have been laboring constantly for more than a year to make the defenses of which thts was an important part impregnable. Position ThoDEbt Inprrenable, There was a profusion of connected machine-gun redoubts, elaborate tele phone and electric light systems and great caverns capable of sheltering companies of infantry. Prisoners say It was believed that Beaumont-Hamel could not be taken. The barrage fire accompanying the attack and the subsequent bombard ments of the next line of works were described by survivors as the most terrific experienced by them on any front. TWO TOWNS ARE CAPTURED Lines on Botli Sides or Ancre Ad vanced Maximum of Mile. LONDON. Nov. IS. The British troops In their new . offensive north of the Ancre River have advanced to the max imum depth of one mile, capturing from the Germans the towns of Beaumont Hamel and Saint Pierre Divlon, accord ing to the correspondent of Reuter's Telegram Company at British head quarters. Fighting Is still going on between the German and British troops around the town of Serre, 'about two miles north of Beaumont-Hamel. Two thou sand prisoners already have been taken by the British. The Reuter dispatch says: "We attacked early this morning. Al ready the British line on both sides of the Ancre has been advanced for a maximum depth of one mile, capturing the villages of Beaumont-Hamel, con sidered by the Germans impregnable. and St. Plerre-Divion and also valuable trenches south of Serre. All these positions were part of the heavily fortified original German line and had b en occupied for more than two years. Many prisoners have been taken. Already 2000 have been collected in the advanced cages. Fig .ing continues around faerre. the only place not cap tured in the first arsault." Mondry's War Moves ONCE again the German line in France has been hard hit. Start ing an offensive running from the southern bank of the Ancre River northward over a front of about seven miles, from St. Pierre Divion to the north of Serre. the British have cap tured the towns of Beaumont-Hamel and St. Pierre Divion and first and second line trenches at various points. Between 3000 and 4000 men .were made prisoner In the attack. The Germans apparently offered slight resistance to their adversaries, al though their positions were extremely heavily rortlrled. A maximum gain to a depth of one mile over the seven-mile front was made by the British. Hard fighting continues to the north of Serre. The new move probably has as its objective the straightening out of the British line northward from the region of Sars across the Ancre and the push ing forward by the British left wing toward Aichlet-Ie-Petit. the Junction point of the Arras-Bapaume and Arras Miraumont railroads. Except In the Roumanian and Mace donian theaters there has been little fighting of great importance on any of the fronts. In the Transyl vanlan Alps region Bucharest admits that the Rou manians In the Alt River sector have been compelled to yield ground to the Austro-Hungarlans, but asserts that King Ferdinand's men have held their own against attacks in the Campulung district. Both Vienna and Berlin record further advances for the troops of the Teutonic allies all along this front, having taken the towns of Dlota and Arsuriler to the north in the Gyergyo Mountains and Candesti northwest of Campulung in Roumania. In Dobrudja, according to Petrograd advices received by wireless at Rome, the troops of Field Marshal Von Mac- kensen's forces are still in retreat and the Russians have crossed the Danube from the western bank and reached two points south of Tchernavoda on the eastern bank. Berlin asserts, how ever, that the Teutonic allies have de feated the Russians and Roumanians who were coming down the western bank of the river. The Serbians southeast of Monastlr have scored another victory over the Germans and Bulgars. having captured the village of Iven, lying on the Cerna River to the northeast of Polog and forced their antagonists to fall back nearly two miles. About 1000 men were made prisoner in thts fighting and large numbers of guns and quantities of arms and ammunition were captured, according to statements from the Serbian and French War Offices. COUNTY TO GIVE NO SALARY INCREASES Budget Committee Now Pre paring to Lop $125,000 or so From Requests. NEW LAW PUTS LIMIT LOW Sharp Fight In Prospect at Meeting Tomorrow Xight, When Esti mates of Ttoadmaster Will Be Presented for Action. County employes need not hopo for salary increases this year. Not & raise will be given, at least not on the rec ommendation of the advisory budget committee. "Can't be done. was the terse ul timatum of Henry E. Reed. County As sessor, at a meeting of the committee last night. "Tax limitation amendment. We'll have a tight enough pinch to get by without any salary boosts." It's taxpayer against county employe. with the soaring cost of living on one side and the rising tax levies on the other. The decision of the budget com mittee favors the taxpayer. Absolute Limit Is 4.8 Mills. The absolute limit for the combined tax levy of the road and general coun ty funds Is 4.9 mills, according to the figures of Mr. Reed, presented to the committee last night. This takes Into consideration the 6- per cent increase. Deyond which the new tax amendment says the county cannot go. It is an increase of hair a mill over the com bined levy of last year, which was 4.4 mills. The total which may be legally raised for the county, not including the bonded debt, which does not come under the new amendment, is $774. 140.97. The total for road purposes, also exclusive of the bonded debt, is $602,632.61. Adding $62,500 to each to tal, the results. Inclusive of the bonded debt, are $8.16.640.97 for the county general and (665,132.61 for roads. Poring of 914.000 Required. The county general Is asklnir about $850,000 in round figures, which will mean a paring of about $14,000. Road- master i eon s tentative budget was for $693,000. out of which at least $28.- OuO must be cut. , The total amount which ma v be asked by the county and road divisions this year Is $1,501,773.58. for which the tax levy of 4.9 mills will be required. j. ne cuts necessary on the tentative requirements are on the assumption that the limit budget will be asked this year. It will not be if it is possible to get alone with less. I he chief source of worry to the budget committee is provision for the rirst unit of a new county hospital on the University of Oregon grant above Terwilliger boulevard. This will cost about $150,000. Sufficient cuts to provide It from the county general fund cannot be made. A determined effort is to be made to slice the amount from the road budget. A battle royal Is scheduled for Wednesday night, when ttoadmaster 1 eon. will present his es timates. Real Battle Expected. FranC: C. Rlggs. Amos Benson and Abe TIchenoc are expected to be advo cates of heavy road expenditures. C. C. Chapman is one who will fight to the last ditch before giving up chances for the establishment of a new county hos pital. Frank Kiernan may sympathize with the road forces. Chairman E. B. MacNaughton. Will Lipman, S. B. Mar tin and Henry E. Reed hold the bal ance of power. Coroner Dammasch appeared before the committee last night to advocate the establishment of a county morgue at an Initial cost of $2500 if placed In the basement of the Courthouse, or $5000 if outside. A suitable morgue under the supervision of the county is a necessity, he pointed out. Commissioners Holman and Holbrook declined to recommend salary items, saying that the Commissioners would act later. There was a verbal exchange between Messrs. Kiernan and Riggs on the subject of election debts being paid with county Jobs, when Commissioner Holman said that many employes of the county had been working for years. but were not satisfactory. Mr. Riggs asked the Commissioner why the deed- Model 85-4 f . o. b. 795 A good reliable automobile is a winter nccess ' ity for any active family. It will "cover" the activities of the whole . family get them here, there and every where on all the errands of duty and pleas ures and always in warm, dry comfort without the risk' of wet and chilled bodies. Better have your cat in front of your house than the Doctor's. Factory IBHsHHHKeHHRHKnHBHnHRHnTBRKSRnHH (BnlHHnBlllnHBBnlnannHBnnknnHnnnnBHMan and The "Cantturn' Umbrella for men or women on sale at $1.19 This Umbrella is so con structed that it will pre vent its turning inside out in any wind storm. $1.75 Self-opening Men's .Umbrellas on sale 5?1.09 $22.50 Steamer Wardrobe Trunk suitable for lady or gentleman, will carry five suits or gowns with drawer space additional. Each Trunk bearing Lik ly's lifetime guarantee. This week $18.50 Don't forget one of those Likly Cowhide Traveling Bags at the special price of A value unequaled before. This is a your opportunity. See it advertised in street- a n I h cars or on d isplay at our store. November 1 5. wm RBRBI"H?PB wood had not been chopped off. but re ceived no reply. Mrs. A. B. Spalding, superintendent of the County Hospital, who works from 6 A. M. to 10 P. M.. while her em ployes are on eight-hour shifts, spoke for the needs of the hospital. She said she was more willing to have $00 for a night superintendent to relieve her lopped from her budget than $1000 for the inside sanitary painting of the hospital. Mark W. Petersen, newly elected Constable, protested vigorously against the tentative budget prepared by the incumbent. Constable Weinberger, in vhlch two extra deputies were ahopped off at a saving of $2400 over the pres ent year. He received little sympathy. "Perhaps he has political debts to pay, but why should we recommend a larger office than provided by law for the taxpayers?" commented Chairman MacNaughton. Madison Welch, superintendent of brldnes and ferries, presented a budget showing a $20,000 Increase. It was not passed on last night, hut It was made known that the JR500 salary increase item would fare 111. Mrs. K. R. Singleton, superintendent, presented the needs of the County Fa rm. JOINT DEBATE REQUIRED SOUTH DAKOTA IMPOSES CONDI TIO OX CADII)ATE!. Auirant for President 'W 111 Mot lie Placed on llallot Otherwise Freak Measure Passed Thrice. SIOUX FALLS. S. D.. Nov. 13. Can didates for Presidential nomination will henceforth, have to appear In South Dakota to take part in Joint de bates or their names cannot appear on primary ballots In this state, if a pri mary law enacted last Tuesday under the initiative remains on the statutes until 1920. Returns received at the Capitol to night Indicate that the so-called Rich ards primary law was adopted by a safe majority. The law divides each of the parties Into "majority" and "minority" fac tions, requiring that each faction otter a complete set of candidates in the biennial primaries. Candidates for nomination for President and Gover nor must challenge one another to Joint debate. Failure to accept a challenge automatically strikes the name of the delinquent from the ballot. County "proposal men" from each faction of each party will meet in January of each election year to propose candi dates and official mottos and construct party platforms. The result of their work is then submitted to the voter on the primary ballot. This is the third time the law has been approved by direct vote. It was adopted under -the initiative in 1J12. and a substitute was rejected In the 1914 election. In 1915 the Legislature repealed It. Mr. Richards' appeal ultl- Toledo Start The OVERLAND Broadway at Branch: "Mads Ifff "V IA M'V l mW W Me JV- BP TRADING STAMPS ! 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