THE 3IORXIX G OREGOyiATT, WEDXESDAY, MAT 10, 101G. WILSON FOR TO INSURE ARMY INSURE PEACE President Makes Distinction Between Militarism and . Preparedness. TRADITIONS NOT MENACED Foes of Great Military Are Told Com p n 1 sory T ra i n i n g, Xot "Uni versal Service, Is Iea to Carry Weight "With Worhl. WASHINGTON. May 0. Ifope that at the end of the war the nations of the world would undertake a joint effort to keep the peace, backed by a common police force, was expressed by Presi dent Wilson Monday in an interview with a committee of the American Vnion Against Militarism, which called to protest against his preparedness programme and advise him that they had found a fear of militarism in the country west of the Alleghenies. The President told his callers that a rielpless nation would be negiible in a conference to establish the foundations for peace. He said there was differ ence between preparedness and militar ism, that the country was in no dan of the latter and, in response to a question, declared that compulsory mil itary training was not contrary to American tradition. Committee Doubt KxprcNnfona. The committee insisted that on ac count of his office," the President most f requently addressed audiences from the upper classes and that the re- ; fponsea he received upon the proposal j to increase the military were mislead- j Jng him as to the true sentiment of the j country. The committee was headed by Miss T.illian L. Wald, Rabbi Stephen S. Wise and Amos R. K. Pinchot, all of New York City; A. A. Berle, of Cambridge Mass., and John A. McSparran, legisla tive chairman of the National Grange, who presented a memorial setting forth that while the union did not stand against sane or reasonable prepared ness nor for peace at any price, it was convinced that the big Armv and Navy programmes were a menace to democ racy. When the spokesmen of the delega tion had supplemented their memorial by brief sentences, the President re plied and for an hour listened to and answered their questions. 4I have never dreamed for a moment that America as a whole, its rank and file, had any military enthusiasm or militaristic spirit," said the President, "and I think that it is very necessary, In order that we should work this thing out wisely, that we should carefully d incriminate between reasonable prep aration and militarism; because if you use the two words interchangeably then, of course, the reasonable things that we ought to do take on a wrong and sinister appearance and we seem to be working for the wrong things when we are in reality working only for the right that is, the necessary things that are unavoidable in the cir cumstances. Tradition Aot Helplesinean. "I think it would be a disservice" not to recognize that there is a point of reasonable preparation, and that you ran go to that point without changing the spirit of the country or violating its traditions. For the traditions of the country have not been those of a mili tary helplessness, though they have been those of anti-militarism. "The currents of opinion, or rather, the bodies of opinion, in this country are very hard to assess. For example. Mayor Mitchel, of New York City, and a group of gentlemen associated with Yiim had meetings not unlike those which you had, and they came back and re ported in most enthusiastic terms an unanimous opinion not for universal aervice, but very distinctly for univer sal military training which, of course, is a very different thing. "Now I quite see the danger that Mr. Pinchot perceives in the laws that he . referred to because they seem to asso ciate military training with public au thority and to draw that training into some sort of connection with military organization. It is not inconsistent with American tradition that everybody should know how to shoot and take care of himself; on the contrary, that Is distinctly implied in our bills of rights, where the right to carry arms is reserved to all of us. There is no use carrying arms if you don't know what to do with them. Mr. AMInon Prang Dint Inctlnii. "I should say that it was not incon sistent with the traditions of the coun try that the people should know how to take care of themselves, but it is inconsistent with the traditions of the country that their knowledge of f fre arms should be used by a Governmental organization which would make and or ganize a great army, subject to orders, to do what a particular group of men might at the time think it was best to have it do. That is the militarism of Kurope, where a few persons can determine what an armed nation is to do. That is what 1 understand mili tarism to be. But a nation acquainted with arms is not a militaristic nation unless there is somebody who ran bv an order determine what they shall flo with that force. I think we ought to be very careful not to let these differ ent things seem as if they were the same. "When you come to ask how much preparation you can make that surely is a matter of judgment, and I do not see how you can find any absolute standard upon which to determine that question. Take Mr. Eastman's sugges tion that we might have some arrange ment by which the border of Mexico can be patrolled. There are not men enough in the existing American Army to patrol that border. That is the mere physical fact. When things are at sixes and sevens in a neighboring country, ; as in Mexico, and everybody apparently ; a -law unto himself, there are not men 1 enough to safeguard that border. And yet it is obviously the right thing to do to keep the disorders of one country from flowing over to disturb the peace of another. That is not militarism; that is necessity. Largest Army Proposed 250,000. "I do not need to tell you that I am just as much opposed to militarism as any man living I think It is a deadly thing to get Into the spirit of a nation, and I do not think there is the slight est danger of its getting into the spirit of this Nation only I have to deter mine a very practical problem. I have to determine how large an army is not unreasonable for the United States. The largest army proposed that of the Chamberlain bill is 250,000 men, and as compared with any European stand ard, that is extremely small. "The traditions of the American peo ple have always been for a very power ful Navy." One of the members of the committee asked if the Navy had not been in creased tremendously. "Wot tremendously," President "Wilson replied. "You see, our tasks have in creased tremendously; the amount of sea that we have found it necessary to police, to take care of our distant pos sessions and be ready for exigencies of "the most ordinary kind quite independ ent of war, has increased tremendously. So that I earnestly hope we may not antagonize reasonable protection in our effort to avoid militarism. I do not think It Is going to need any very great effort to avoid militarism, because I quite agree with you that there we have got the sentiment of a great body of people behind us, and that, after all, Is all that we care about. GRANGE IN SESSION From 400 to 500 Delegates Gather at Grants Pass. BANQUET IS HELD INDOORS Inclement? Weather Forces Abandon ment or Plan to Hold Night Session in City Park Cyrus W. Walker Notable Visitor. Peace of World Wanted. "As to the general thing we are al 1 most profoundly interested in, and that is peace; we want the peace of the world. How. I do not know. I can not speak about what I am going to speak about with any degree of con fidence I do not suppose any man can but a nation which by the standards of other nations, however mistaken those standards may be, is regarded as helpless is apt in general council to be regarded as negligible, and when you go into a council to establish founda tions for the peace of the world you must go in on a basis intelligible to the people you a re conferring with. A committeeman interposed to say that he was in London in 1 895 at the time of the Venezuela complications and heard it said that if America had a great navy. President Cleveland's message would have been regarded as an attempt at bullying, and unques lion ably would have led to war. But this is not the year 1895," re plied Mr. Wilson. "This is a year of madness. It is a year of excitement. more profound than the world has ever known. All the world Is seeing red. No ttandard we have ever had obtains any longer. In the circumstances it is America's duty to keep her head and yet hae a very hard head; to know the facts of the world and to act on those facts with restraint, with rea sonableness. without any kind of mis leading excitement and yet with ener gy, and all that I am maintaining is this, that we must take such steps as are necessary for our own safety as against the imposition of the standards of the rest of the world upon our selves. Force XfCfwuary for Pence. "We have undertaken very much more than the safety of the United tjtes; we have undertaken to keep what we regard as demoralizing and hurtful European influences out of this hemisphere, and that means that if the wo-ld undertakes, as we all hope it will undertake a joint effort to keep the peace, it will expect us to play our proportional part in manifesting the force which is going to rest back o th.it. "In the last analysis the peace of so ciety is obtained by force, and when action comes it comes by opinion, bu back of the opinion Is the ultimate ap plication of force. The greater body of opinion says to the lesser body opinion; 'We may be wrong, but you have to live under our direction for the time being, until you are more numer ous than we are.' That is what I un derotand It amounts to. World Kxpects AnmlMtance. "Now, let us suppose that we hav formed a family of nations and tha family of nations says: 'The world nor going to have any more wars this sort without at least first going through certain processes to show whether there is anything in its cas or not.' If you say, We shall not hav any war,' you have got to have th f re to make that 'shall bite. And tfi rest of the world, if America takes part in this thing, will nave the right to ex pect from her that, she contribute her element of force to the general under standing. Surely that is not a mili to. ri stic idea. That is a very practica idea GRANTS PASS. Or.. Mav 9. (Spe ial.) The 43d annual convention cases, comprising actions for money, are on the docket. Only one criminal case is slated, and that follows the in dictment by the grand jury of S. J. Cotton on a charge of obtaining money under false pretenses. EPWORTH CONVENTION SET Eugene District Session to Open at Springfield May 19. SPRINGFIELD. Or.. May 9. (Spe cial.) The 13th annual convention of the Epworth League of tile Eugene dis trict will be held In Springfield from Friday. May 19. until Sunday, May 21. Friday will be devoted to the registra tion of delegates, of whom 00 or more are expected from Albany. Corvaills. Brownsville. Junction City. Harriburg. Eugene, Cottage Grove. Roseburg. Drain and other cities, and In the evening there will be an informal reception for the delegates and local Leaguers. ' Saturday will he given over to busi ness sessions, followed In the evening by an illustrated lecture by Professor of j F. S. Dunn, of the University of Ore- theiState Grange of Oregon convened in Grants Pass todav with between 400 and 500 delegates in ' attendance, this being the firFt time the state conven tion has met in a Southern Oregon city. A huge welcome sign greeted the delegate upon entrance to the city, while the streets were gaily decorated with bunting in the Grange colors and American flags. The state officials and committee men arrived Monday, but the great bulk of the delegates came in on train No. 54 last night and were entertained by the Commercial Club. This morning's session was largely given over to the report of the creden tials committee, while the standing state committees reported this after noon. Owing to inclement weather the ban quet for tonight, to have been at the Citv Park, was taken to Dreamland rink. Toasts by prominent grangers, responded to by the city officials of Grants " Pass, were the order of the evening. Perhaps the most interest ing delegate attending the banquet to night was Cyrus V. Walker, uncle of Mrs. H. L. Gilkey, of this city. Mr. Walker is the oldest living white man born in the territory west of the Rocky Mountains and north of California. He a delegate from Albany. Or. A large number of delegates arriv ing in the city today, but failing t" be accredited, were . 1" carloads oi gypsies. They were pursued and over taken in this city by officers from Jack son County, where they were wanted for robbery. Three of the women were held in the County Jail here. 'J he remainder, tan ing to be entertained by the Commer cial Club, departed for Roseburg. They are reported to have a kidnaped white child in their possession. Following is a list of the officers of the State Grange: Master. C. E. Ppence, Orego overseer, C. D. Huffman. I-.a - chaplain. Cyrus alker. Albany; lec turer. Mrs. Minnie E. Bond. Eugene; steward, M. P. Young. Clatskanie: as sistant steward, Charles Hayes, Sher wood; lady steward, Mrs. K. R. Allen, Tangent; secretary. Mary S. Howard, Mulino: treasurer, H. Hershberg. Inde pendence; assistant treasurer, Charles Difkinson, Oswego: gate kaeper. C. c. Borland. Oregon City; Pomona, Mrs. TJ. D. Mihells. Grants Pass; trustees. C. E. Spence. Oregon City; B. G. Leedy, Cor- vallis, C. L. Shaw. Albany; woman s .work committee. Mrs. Florence Dickin son. Oswego; Mrs. Lulu Miller. Albany: Mrs. E. E. Blanchard, Grants Pass. gon. Devotional and consecration serv ices Sunday will be lejl by Rev. J. T. Moore. Y. M. C. A. CAR DEDICATED Booth-Kelly Lumber Company and Employes Build and Furnish It. EUGENE. Or.. May 9. (Special.) The first Y. M. C. A. industrial car in Oregon and the second of its kind in the Pacific Northwest, was dedicated last night at Wendling. It was built by the Booth-Kelly Lumber Company and furnished by its employes, who contributed more than J'JOO in a single day for the furnishings. The car will divide its time between the logging camp and Wendling, in charge of D. C Bennett, special secretary of the state Y. M. C. A. committee. The expense of maintenance will be borne jointly by the Booth-Kelly Lumber Company and its employes. TWO SHIPS TORPEDOED an City: I Grande; j Ambassador Page Forwards Reports of Another Germans Set Afire. WASHINGTON. May 8. Lloyd's re ports, forwarded to the State Depart ment today by Ambassador Page at Lord6n, said the Swedish schooner Harold of Gothenberg. was torpedoed May 5 and the French bark Marie Malinos May The crew of the Malinos had 15 minutes to abandon the bark and was picked up by a steamer 18 hours later. The bark Memento of Brevtg, for England with a cargo of timber, was eported to have been set afire by a erman submarine May 2. Tillamook Circuit Court Opens. TILLAMOOK. Or.. May !. (Special.) -Circuit Court is In cession here this week, with Judge George R. Bagley. of Hillshoro. presiding". Numerous civil JITNEY DRIVERS BONDED Hoseburjr Requires All to Deposit $250 and Fixes Age Limit. ROSEBURG. Or.. May 9. ( Special. With a view of regulating Jitney cars operated in Roseburg, the City Council last night decided to place each Jitney driver under a bond of 9250, and desig nate the age limit of drivers at not less than 18 years. It was also decided to assess each driver of a Jitney car $2.50 quarterly. An ordinance embodying the recom mendations of the Council will be pre pared by the City Attorney preparatory to passage at the next meeting of the 1 municipRl body. WATERY PIMPLES ON MYFACE . Developed Into Hard Pimples. Large and irritated. Face Was in an Awful Condition. HEALED BYCUTICURA SOAP AND OINTMENT "I first noticed watery pimples on my face which began to develop into hard pimples, and they would disappear into the skin and would then leave marks upon my face. The pimples were lance and running water all the time and they festered and irritated. 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The other two men who were invited to address the club were W. B. Harris, of Bay City, and Oeorge R. McKimmens, incumbent, of Mohler. At the next meeting of the club de tails of a Fourth of July celebration will be worked out. COOS COAL TO BE ON SALE Deliveries Will Begin With Completion of Umpqtia Bridge. EUGEXfi, Or., May 9. (Special.) One effect of the construction of the Willamette Pacific Railroad on the Willamette Valley will be the introduc tion of Coos Bay coal as a fuel. C. C. Thompson, sales manager of the Libby Coal Company, is making a trip In the valley for the purpose of opening agen cies for the sale of Coos Bay coal in various cities. Deliveries will begin as soon as the completion of the Umpqua bridge makes through freight traffic possible.. Asliland Corps Company Plans Trip. ASHLASD, Or.. May 9. (Special.) First Company. Coast Artillery Corps, will attend the annual military encamp ment at Fort Stevens under command of Captain W. E. Blake. 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