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PORTLAND, OREGON, TUESDAY ,CEMBER 23, 1D13.
PRICE FIVE CENTS
REVISED
CURRENCY
BILL PASSES HOUSE
Conference Report Up
held 298 to 60.
NTN4TF VllTPX ARAN TIHliYl
Hblinik I w tew iiwfin I .wwn.i
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President Expected to Have
. Measure by Tonight.
CHANGE NOT FUNDAMENTAL
Majority Leader Underwood Gets
Great Ovation as He Klses to De
fend Measure Mann Makes
Grave Prediction of Result.
WASHINGTON, Dec 22. The House
passed the conference report on the Ad
ministration currency bill at 10:4J
o'clock tonight by a vote of 298 to 0
and sent the report to the Senate, which
had waited in session to receive it be
fore adjournment for the night.
General debate on the report began In
the House at 7:30 o'clock. It was agreed
to discuss the measure for two hours
and forty minutes; an hour and twenty
minutes for the Democrats, an hour
for the Republicans and 10 miuntes for
the Progressives.
Fundamental Change Made.
Opening the discussion. Representa
tive Glass said the conferees had re
ported the original House bill back
"without one single fundamental alter
ation." Mr. Glass went over the conference
report In detail and defended the note
provisions of the bill which had been
assailed by bankers and members of
the Senate.
Representative Hayes, of California,
minority member of the House confer
ence committee, criticised the failure of I
the Senate and the conference to re
move the provision which makes the
Government of the United States pri
"riiarUy responsible for the notes It rro
vosea to Issue to the regional reserve
banks.
Faraa Lu Credit Hit.
,. Mr. Hayes also declared the bill de
fective in the provision extending credit
on farm loans, maintaining that It was
a "gold brick to the farmer." in that
or.ly a small percentage of the 'surplus
of the small banks could be leaned to
the farmers.
Representative Lcnroot, of Wiscon
sin. Republican, announced that he
would vote for the conferen-e report
because he believed It an Improvement
of both Senate and House bills.
"Undrj- this bill." he said, "the re
serve in Wall street can no longer be
used In stock speculation, but must be
usd to meet the commercial needs of
tiie country."
"Travety," Snys JImk,
Representative Moore, of Pennsylva
nia, characterized the bill as "a trav
esty upon Democracy's so-called popu
lar rule." and a "confession of dicta
tion." Ilepreycntative Guernsey, of Maine.
Republican, said he objected to the bill
"cliirrly because the Reserve Board
would be controlled by partisan inter
eats. Representative Ragsdale, of South
Carolina.: Hellln. of Alabama, and A.
Mitchell l"r.lmer. of Pennsylvania. Dem
ocrats, supported the report in enthu
siastic talks.
Victor Murdock. in announcing he
would not vote for the report, insisted
the Democrats had acted too hastily,
and struck only a "half blow" at spe
cial Interests.
"In the last eight months." said Mr.
Murdock, "I have seen the mental atti
tude of Democratic leaders change from
a desire to serve the public to an atti
tude! of trying to avert National disas
ter. There Is no panic in this country
yet. There are no hard times yet. but
the special interests of the country,
which are no mean enemy, have been
spreading the poison of pessimism all
over the country."
High Cat Phaatem Seen.
Representative Lindbergh, of Minne
sota, Progressive, assailed the confer
ence report cn the ground it eventually
would increase rather than decrease
the cost of living. The vital defect
of the measure, he said, was that it
did not give the Federal Reserve Board
the right to fix rates of interest to be
charged by the bankers to the borrow
ers of the country.
Representative Kahn. of California,
and l'latt. of New Tork. Republicans,
criticised the report, declaring it would
prove a disappointment to the Nation.
Much of the discussion concerned the
elimination by the conferees of the
Senate's scheme of guaranty of bank
deposits. Representative Glass de
clared the Senate provision would have
defeated any real guaranty or bank
deposits, and intimated that further
legislation on this must be undertaken.
21 said that such a guaranty of de
posit ought to place the tax on the
banks and not on the Government
Representative Temple. Progressive,
of Pennsylvania, announced that al
though ha voted against the House bill,
ha would support the conference re
port because he believed It a great Im
provement over the original measure.
IsirniMe Gets Ovation.
Majority Leader Underwood, as the
debate neared a conclusion, was given
a great ovation when ha rose to epeak.
PRESIDENT SINGS
FROM THEATER BOX
WILSON JOINS IN OLD 'NASSAU
CHORCS AT COLLEGE PLAT.
Washington Society and Diplomats
Hear Nation's Executive Aroused
by Princeton Spirit.
WASHINGTON. Dee. 2Z. President
Wilson stood in a box in a local theater
iviv fhn with unlifted hands joined
in the chorus of "Old Nassau," the alma
mf Ar snns- of Princeton.
It was at the conclusion of the per
formance of the Princeton University
"Triangle Club," when the entire audi
ence arose and Mr. Wilson also sang, as
did all alumni of the lnatitution present.
The play, a musical comedy written
by the students, was attended by Wash
ington society in general. Mrs. Mar
shall, the wife of the Vice-President,
and the ladles of the circuit and Su
preme Court circles occupied boxes, as
did members of the diplomatic corps.
A son and nephew of Justice Pitney,
of the United States Supreme Court,
took part in the performance.
The students gave the President a
locomotive cheer as he left the theater.
He was accompanied by his youngest
daughter. Miss Eleanor Wilson.
JOB, $500 MONTH, OFFERED
Commissioner DIcck Heady to Ap
point City Engineer.
Who wants a Job at $300 a month?
City Commissioner Dieck has such a
position which he is anxious to fill. He
says he will fill it as soon as the right
man puts in an application. The posi
tion will be that of City Engineer, or
perhaps it may1 bo called "Municipal
Engineer."
' Commissioner Dieck announced yes
terday that inasmuch as the people at
the last election refused to so amend
the charter that an engineer could be
selected outside the city, he will try
onoe more to find someone at home,
Efforts so far have been of no avail, he
says. .
"As soon as I am sure I have the
right man, I am going to make the
appointment," said Commissioner Dieck
yesterday.
PARCEL POST IS SWAMPED
San Francisco Postoffice to Handle
1,000,000 Holiday Packages.
SAN FRANCISCO. Dec 23. (Special.)
Before the holiday rush ends San
Framrtsi-o'a department of the parce'
post Will have handled 1,000,000 pack
aces, ranging In weight from 1 to 20
pound?, at an average fee of 15 cents
a package. This means receipts of
(150.000 during the first Christmas
package business handled by parcel
post in this city.
' One hundred men are working day
and night delivering packages from 25
wagons and four automobiles; 100 more
handle the outgoing Business.
Fifty-five thousand packages were
handled Saturday. Postmaster Fay says
today's business and each day hereafter
during the holidays will average 100,
000 packages. So popular is the parcel
post business here that the authorities
have given up hope of keeping tab on
it from now until New Year's.
TURKEY ARRIVALS LIGHT
Receipts or Holiday Birds Not Up to
Expectations; Prices Klrm.
Receipts of Christmas turkeys yes
terday did not come up to expectations.
The bulk of the supply arrived yester
day, and dealers were enabled to get a
line on the situation.' There probably
will not be any shortage, nor is any
surplus in sight. Prices, therefore, are
steady.
In the retail markets, fresh turkeys
were quoted at iS cents to 30 cents,
and these prices probably will prevail
today and tomorrow. 'In some of the
markets turkeys tnat were carried
over In storage from Thanksgiving are
being offered at 23 cents.
Ducks, geese and chickens are fairly
plentiful and are selling well. Addi
tional shipments of turkeys will arrive
from the country today.
WfLSON'S MEN CONFIRMED
Senate Sanctions Appointments of
Williams and Whltlock. -
WASHINGTON. Dec. 22. The Senate
tonight confirmed appointments of
George Fred William?, of Massachu
setts, to be Minister to Greece, and
Hrand Whltlock. of Ohio, to be Min
ister to Belgium. - '
The appointment of Henry M. Tln
dell as Ambassador to Russia is still
before the foreign relations commit
tee and probably will not be considered
by the Senate until after the Christmas
recess.
A large number of appointments were
confirmed, including a majority of
those sent In by President Wilson since
the new session assembled.
CORSET, SHAVES FOR BABY
Beer. Wine, Flour and Coal Also Go
to Lorain's First-Born 'in 1914.
LORAIN, O.. Dec. 22. (Special.) A
the result of a movement started by a
local newspaper, the first baby born in
Lorain In lslt will not have to worry
about the high cost of living for some
time to come.
When the publication asked for gifts
a flood of donations were received,
among them being: A corset, bottle
of sherry wine, theater pass for life.
barber work for life, case of beer, fouv
sacks of flour and a ton of coaL
The father of the first-born gets a
suit of clothes, a box of cigar and a
E
RTA SAVES BANK
BY CALLING HOLIDAY
London and Mexico In
stitution Near Crisis.
$7,000,000 HURRIEDLY DRAWN
Ten Days' Respite Edict May
Ward Off Disaster.
OTHER BANKS INCLUDED
Indications Are No other Houses.
"With Possible Exception of One:
Will Take Advantage of Privi
lege to Halt Business.
MEXICO CITY, Dec. 22. The direct
ors of the Bank of London and. Mexico
tonight began a careful scrutiny of the
affairs of that Institution, and If their
findings are Indorsed by other bank-
era it is not Improbable assurances will
be offered the directors which will en
able a full resumption of the lousiness
of the Institution. It Is reasonably cer
tain, however, the bank will continue
to avail Itself of the decree of Presi
dent Huerta Issued today making the
last 10 days of the present year legal
holidays.
With the .possible exception of one
other instiution It la believed that no
other bank than the Bank of London
and Mexico will take advantage of the
official edict, which authorizes finan
cial Institutions to do as little or as
much business as they desire during
what is regarded as a financial crisis.
200 Pesos Drawing Limit.
The Bank of London & Mexico was
crowded to its capacity at the closing
hour of business today by men and
women who were trying to withdraw
their deposits. The amounts paid de
positors were limited to 200 pesos, and
no assurances were given that even
this much would be given out in the
future. The approximate amount with
drawn from the bank since depositors
began demanding their money, several
daya ago, Is said to exceed l?(000,00f
pesos. -Of this amount 11,000,000 pesos
((7,000,000) was withdrawn since last
Tuesday.
The Bank of London & Mexico has,
in the various states, 12 branches, four
of which were closed some time ago on
account of local conditions. These
were at Monterey, Torreon, Mazatlan
and Durango.
On a minor scale the condition of
the remaining branches Is similar to
that of the parent Institution, but all
are taking advantage of President
Huerta's decree which has been tele
graphed to the various points where
the branches are located.
The crisis which the Bank of London
and Mexico faces has been no secret
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n . The Weather.
YESTERDAY'S Maximum - temperature, 36
decrees; minimum, 32 degree.
TODAY'S Rain or snow; winds mostly
southerly.
Foreign.
Huerta saves bank by call in c holiday.
Page 1.
Refugees are forced to pay big tribute to
Villa, page 3.
Rational.
President Wilson sings from box in theater.
Page 1.
Among banks to file application to join new
currency system Is St. Johns, Or., insti
tution. Page -0.
Profits in Government-owned telephones
cited in House. Pace 2.
Currency bill as It will become law Is ex
plained in detail. Page 20.
President requests "very serious reprimand"
to officers of Carrabao Club. Page 2.
Revised currency bill passes House by big
m aj on ty . fage l.
Domestic.
Witness says Western Fuel books show
weights juggled. Page 2.
"Drysf appeal to President Wilson. Page 9.
Sports.
European game and songbirds to be trans
planted in Oregon. Page 8-
North western magnates tn session arrang
ing date schedule. Page &
Pacific Northwest.
West's order disobeyed, Copperfleld saloons
stay open. Page L
Once -prosperous mining man. facing pov
erty, - emis lire In Haker restaurant.
Page 7.
Snow blockades train service east of Baker;
ships bar bound at mouth of Columbia,
Page 7.
Teachers at Salem hear plans to solve
problem In state. Page 6.
Commercial and Marine.'
Strong position of wheat market in .North
west. Page 21.
Wheat weakened at 'Chicago by slump in
corn. Page 21.
Stock prices rise on favorable news from
Washington. Page 21. ,
Bark Hlnemoa leaks badly following col
lision. page 17.
Portland and Vicinity.
City's labor relief plan in full operation.
Page lo. - v
Public responding generously to fund for
Christmas relief of needy. Pace 12.
Greater Portland Plans body asks sugges
tions for auditorium. Pare 14.
Ringleaders of restaurant rushers sentenced
to Jail terms. Page 13.
Wallace R. Struble discusses coming Water
ways convention. age id.
Selection of Interstate bridge engineer de
ferred to Saturday. Page 14.
Butter men divide on plan for proposed ex-
cnange. rage id.
Two witnesses heard for defense in Von
Klein case. Page 13.
Government studying postal methods with
aim of effecting standardization. Page o.
State branch of National Motion Picture
Exhibitors League being formed. Page 16.
METHODIST EDUCATOR DIES
John Thomas McFarlandi" D.D..
Passes at Homo in New Jersey.
NEW TORK, Dec.' 22. John Thomas
McFarland, D. D., ex-president of the
Iowa Wesleyan University and editor
of Sunday school publications of the
Methodist Episcopal Church since 1904,
died today at his home in Maplewood,
N. J. lr. McFarland was born at
Mount -Vernon, l!id.,"In" 1851 and was
educated at' Iowa Wesleyau University.
Simpson College, Iowa, and Boston Uni
versity School of Technology.
At various times Dr. McFarland held
pastorates in Iowa, Illinois, Kansas
and Rhode Island. He was prominently
identified with all progressive move
ments in the field of religious educa
tion.
Mallcarrier Travels 73,000 Miles.
RICKREALL.' Or., Dec. 22. (Special.)
To travel a distance nearly equal to
three times the circumference of the
earth has been the experience of Mil
ton Grant, a rural mallcarrier, who
has completed a Journey of over 73,000 J
miles in Polk County. Mr. Grant lias
been serving his rural patrons for ten
years, completing about-20 miles each
day. He says he enjoyed the work and
will continue carrying mall.
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CEAHWAVETEARS
UP MILE OF T
Passenger Train Halts
Just in Time.
SALTAIR BEACH WRECK STREWN
Summer Homes and Hotel' El
more Damaged by Water.
RAILROAD IS UNDERMINED
Engineer of Passenger Train Sees
Danger Before Those on Board
Are Aware or Peril Train
Reaches City 8 Hours Late.
A mighty wall of water, greatly re
sembling a tidal wave, came up from
the stormy Pacific yesterday morning
and swept the beach for more than a
mile near Saltalr in Tillamook County,
tearing railroad tracks from their beds,
undermining the foundations of dwell
ings and leaving wreckage and ruin in
its path. i
Southern Pacific train No. 20, which
left Tillamook at 7 o'clock yesterday
morning for Portland, narrowly es
caped the giant wave. . It arrived on
the stretch of open beach just as the
angry waters reached their height. The
engineer saw the track a few hundred
feet ahead of him go out. He was run
ning slow and applied the brakes. The
train came to a standstill on the edge
of a shallow channel that had been cut
under the track by the tide.
Track Hangs Suspended. ' t
The rails, twisted and bent out of
shape, spanned -the channel, the ties
hanging suspended below them.
A wrecking crew and section hands
repaired the tracks, while passengers
ambled about to take an inventory of
the damage wrought on other parts of
the beach.
Many small 'dwellings and two or
three larger houses suffered severely.
The water tore the sand away from
under the foundations, many of which
ara of wood. Most of the, houses on
this part of the beach are used by
Portland people as Summer cottages.
They are not Intended for permanent
occupancy, and are not constructed of
heavy material.
Elmore Hotel Damaged.
The Elmore Hotel, which is one of
the largest buildings along the beach,
was damaged considerably. This build
ing recently has been raised about eight
feet. The water tore away the steps
leading from the sidewalk to the front
porch and undermined tho wooden
foundation.
The floors of some of the houses that
are built nearer to the ground were
flooded.
Train No. 20 arrived in Portland
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RACK
NEW POWER PLANT
WILL BEGIN TODAY
NORTHWESTERN ELECTRIC COM
PANT READY TO OPERATE.
Tariff Filed Calls for Reductions in
Rates East Side Business Dis
trict ' to Get First Service.
The first delivery of power in Port
land' by the Northwestern Electric
Company - will begin this morning,
when electric light and power circuits
serving the, East Side business section
and part of the residential district,
will be switched Into operation from
the company's East Side, distributing
station, at Alblna avenue and Loring
street' . v
W. E. Coman, vice-president and
general manager of the company, "nklJ
nounced yesterday that everythingS.
ready for operation. . ; C,
"Today's service marks the begi
ning of active competition in the ele
trie light and power field in this cij
said Mr. Coman.
l ne district to be served at on
on the East Side includes the busine
section along Union, Grand and Wll
liams avenues, Russell street, and
large part of the UDDer Alblna ujrt
East Portland residential sections.
Service on the West Side will hot bi
started until the completion btX
btXtd
b, bas
ife will
main distributing station, in the
ment of the Pittock block.. ' Thi
be on or about March 1. -,-
A tariff, making general reduction's
In the present rates charged for both
light and power in Portland, has been
filed at Salem with the State" Railroad
Commission, by the Northwestern
Company. ' ' . v
"The new tariff discards the per
centage system entirely," explained Mr.
(..oman. "it fixes a definite rate for
the first 100 hours" of power used.
wun another certain fixed rate for
power or light used in excess of 100
hours.
SL0VER ASKS FOR HEARING
Leases of Recently Discharged Police
to Be Called Today.
Declaring that his dismissal from the
police department was "for political and
religious reasonB and was not made In
good faith for the purpose of improv
ing the public service." E. A. Slover, ex
Acting Chief of Police, yesterday filed
a petition fcr a hearing before the Mu
nicipal Civil Service Board, of the
charges on which Mayor Albee dis
charged him recently.
All of the policemen recently dis
missed have asked for hearings. George
v.. Caldwell, chairman of the Civil
Service Board, announced that the cases
will be called tomorrow at 2 o'clock
and set for hearings. Each man will
be given a separate hearing if desired.
MYTH DESTROYER FINED
Man Who Tried to Disillusion Son as
to Santa Is Arrested.
NEW TORK, Dec 22. The man who
does not believe in Santa Claus was
fined (3 today for trying to convert his
6-year-old son to his creed.
The chief witness against him was
his sister-in-law. She testified that she
had pleaded and wept when he tried
to persuade the boy that Santa Claus
was a myth. Her cries brought a po
liceman to the house and tho police
man brought the man to the station,
where he was charged with disorderly
conduct.
The man is Gustav Kotch. He lives
in a flat in the Bronx.
ST. PAUL POLICEMEN PLEAD
F.x-Chief Sajs Not Guilty, Too, to
13th Indictment Against Him.
ST. PATJL. Dec 22. Several of those
ndicted by the grand jury that re
turned 37 Indictments Friday in con-
j-nection with Its investigation Into graft
in tne underworld entered pleas of not
guilty in tne JJistrlct Court today.
' Martin J. Flanagan, ex-Chief of Po
lice, was Indicted jointly with Daniel
Walker, "sergeant of detectives, and De
tectives John Delaney and John Thomas
for the alleged slugging in the police
station of Howard Guilford, editor of a
weekly newspaper. Flanagan pleaded
not guilty to the 13th indictment that
has been returned against him in two
weeks. "
MUNICIPAL TREE LIGHTED
Spokane Mayor Plays Santa to Poor
on Downtown Corner.
SPOKANE, Wash., Dec. 22 Spo
kane s municipal "Christmas tree, B0
feet high on a prominent business
corner, was lighted for the first time
tonight. It will be illuminated each
night until 12 o'clock, December 31.
A programme of carols and other
Christmas music will be rendered each
night. Mayor W. J. Hindley acted as
Santa Claus tonight and distributed
presents to the children who furnished
the programme.
BRAIN GONE, PATIENT LIVES
Man Shows No Sign of Cerebral as
Think Tissues Shrink.
PARIS, Dec 22. Before the Academy
of Science tonight. Dr. Robinson re
ported a case in which life was sus
tained when a great part of the brain
had been destroyed. The case was
that of a man 62 years old, treated
for a year for an apparently slight
wound of the occiput.
During this time the patient showed
no signs of brain trouble, but the
autopsy revealed the presence of an
abscess which had reduced the brain
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1ST NOT OBEYED;
COPPERFIELD WET
Baker Sheriff Refuses
' to Close Saloons.
LEGAL RIGHT IS QUESTIONED
District Attorney .Counsels
;f 7 Keeping Hands Off.
TACK, LAID TO REVENGE
fl
r Complaint Is Said to Be
tven Saloonkeeper, Mho
icedOut of Business,
cials of 'cw City.
K
OltivsSKKTS AUTHORITY.
. O-f.Dec. 22. (Soecial.
nnfmAd tnntirht that Sheriff
K&Vbt Caker County, had defied
4i drtffer close the saloons of Cop
ptrfleld, ddtlarlng tho Executive had
j ntf "Jesal yuthorlty to make tho or
7 dery Governor Woat vaid:
Well, I will close the saloons there
f my
I sal
self,- and I will close any other
saloons In that ounty that need
I cloetnir."
I GoYrnor "West declares that lie has
4 authority under the provisions of tli
to act In cases of breaches of
peace, and also under the home rule
BAKER, Or., Dec 22. (Special.)
Ed. Rand, Sheriff of Baker County,,
today flatly refused to carry out Gov
ernor West's order to elose the salocns
at Copperfleld, and said that the only
way he knew tnat the Governor could
have his wishes carried out was to
declare martial law at Copperfleld and
take in the militia and enforce the
law with their assistance. Mr. Rand
declares that the District Attorney has
advised him that there is no law on
the statute books which would war
rant his closing the Copperfleld saloons
or any other saloon which has a
license, and that therefore Mr. West's
peremptory order, received today, must
go unobeyed.
Sheriff Rand telegraphed Governor
West today asking hiin to cite the
cede under which he expected to have
his order obeyed, and he said that
until he gets a satisfactory answer to
this message he will make' no mova
against the saloons at Copperfleld.
Prosecutor Upholds Sheriff.
District Attorney Godwin upheld the
Sheriff in his stand, and said that he
could find no authority for proceeding
in the Copperfield case, despite the
Governor's peremptory order.
Sheriff Rand and District Attorney
Godwin were disposed to make light
of conditions at Copperfield, and de
clared that the Governor had been led
to believe that a condition of lawless
ness existed, when, as a matter of fact.
there was nothing, they said, other
than a neighborhood quarrel, in which
two factions were at loggerheads, and
each was endeavoring to bring ruin
upon the heads of the others.
Saloon Quarrel Is Asaertlon.
"It is all a tempest in a teapot,"
declared Mr. Godwin, on receipt of in
formation of the telegram to Sheriff
Rand today. "In the first place, there
is positively no statute under which
Sheriff Rand can take the law into
his own hands and go up there and
close up those saloons, even should
they be conducting their affairs as
the Governor ha3 been led to believe
by petitions from persons who are ab
solutely! lined up on one side of the
two factions which have been running
things In Copperfield.
"One of these factions is headed by
Martin Knezevich, a saloonman of
Copperfleld, whose license recently
was revoked by order of the city of
ficials. The city officials at Copper
field happen to be In the saloon busi-
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Portlands Remarkable
Progress
Do jou know that Portland
has issued 33,814 building per
mits during tie last five years,
and that the building expendi
ture during the same period has
been $81,198,372?
- Do you know that this. is a
record not equaled by any other
city in the Pacific Kortli.
Seattle ranking next with less
than $63,000,000 expenditure?
Do you know that Portland's
bank clearings for 1913 will
reach $626,800,000, placing it
lor tne Iirst time among the I
$600,000,000 cities? . I
Do you know that Portland's J
postal receipts for 1913 will be
approximately $1,176,000, the t
highest in the city's history? - I-
These facts and many others i
or equal interest will be in
cluded in The Oregonian -Annual,
to be issued January 1,
1934. Both in text and illus
trations this number will excpl.
Every citizen of Oregon should
T man copies to ms inends in
I sther states. An order blank is
printed on another page of to-
day's issue.
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