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OFIVIURDER ISTOLD
Life in" Danger, Lum
berman's Fear.
RICH MAN QUICK WITH GUN
Thought Patrolman Highway'
L man, Is Testimony.
PRISONER NERVOUS WRECK
Wife of Slain Aberdeen Policeman
Takes ' Stand Welch "Feared
Something Was Going to Hap.
pen to Him," Is Evidence.
MONTESANO. Wash.. Oct. 4. (Spe
cial.) With tears streaming down his
face and between sobs which sffSok
his frame, John S. Creech, lumberman
of Raymond, who Is on trial for his
life for the shooting of City Detective
Frank J. Welch, today told the story
of the shooting, passing the entire aft
ernoon on the witness stand, under
going one of the severest cross-examinations
given any defendant in the
history of the Montesano court.
When court adjourned tonight Creech
was almost a nervous wreck and had
to be almost led from the courtroom.
so great had been the strain on him
during the day.
The day was a tearful one for both
the widow of the dead officer and also
for the Creech family, the women be
ing In tears a greater part of the time.
To the court and Jury Creech told
the following story:
Creech Explains Return.
"I came back to Aberdeen Monday
night because I wanted to collect some
money from the lumber agency, and,
after arriving in the city, passed an
hour with Mr. Tebbs before going to
my home. I walked several blocks out
of the way and, as I stepped on my
property, I thought I beard a rustle In
the bushes. As I had been warned by
Pacifia County officials that my life
was in danger owing to the recent la
bor troubles in Raymond, I was al
ways prepared and carried a gun.
"The noise startled me and, as I took
another step forward, someone flashed
a light In my face and a gun and or
dered me to stick up my hands. I
dodged and quickly drew my gun
from my hip pocket and fired twice.
The man fell and as he fell I said "Who
are you? I am an officer,' to which he
replied, 'I am an officer, too.' Then
I said: 'My God, why didn't you say
so and I would not have shot."
"Had you known - it was an officer
would you have killed him?" was the
question asked Creech by Attorney
Welsh.
Court Walts for Tears.
"My God, no," said Creech, and his
eyes filled with tears and he cried bit
terly for several minutes, the court
waiting until he regained his com
posure. Continuing, Creech said:
"I shot him because I thought .be
was a highwayman, and when I pulled
my gun believed that was my last day.
I was of the opinion that he fired Just
as I shot, which I have since learned
he did not.
"I never saw the man before and did
not know whether be knew me or not."
Creech denied that he had said he
expected to pass the remainder of his
days in Walla Walla for the crime and
that he did not lay the responsibility
for his act to his wife the night of the
shooting-.
mWtoiic Man" Expression Told.
He said that when he told the offi
cers he bad gotten the wrong man.
he meant that he had killed a police
man Instead of a highwayman as he
thought Welch was.
Another touching part of the day's
trial was when Mrs. Welch, wife of the
dead patrolman, took the stand and
told of the parting between her and
her husband. She said that Welch
came to her home on his way to the
Creech home and wanted his light. He
secured it, left the house and In a
moment came back and kissed her and
the baby "good-bye."
Friends who talked with Welch after
he had received the word to go to the
Creech home that evening said he did
not want to go, fearing something was
going to happen to him.
The defense's opening statement was
made by Attorney John T. Welch and
he said they would prove that Welch
was called to the Creech home earlier in
the evening because some - one had
opened a window and left a tile under
it so admittance could be gained to the
room. They propose to prove that
Welch came to the Creech home, went
Into every room In the house, thea
stepped out in the backyard and a few
minutes later -was killed.
New Light on Story.
The state has contended that Creech
came home and was prowling in the
back yard when Mrs. Creech tele
phoned for officers, but this places a
new light on the matter and gives
Creech a good chance for his freedom.
An effort was made early this morn
ing to impeach the testimony of Chief
of Police Templeman without avail, he
sticking to his first story concerning
his talk with Creech and no further
evidence was introduced against him.
The trial will not be ended until next
Monday or Tuesday as Prosecuting At
torney Campbell is not' through with
his cross-examination of Creech and
iConcluded on Pace a.)
BLACK BEAR ROUTS
SECTION OF ARMY
SABER DRILL AXGERS PET OF
FIRST CAVALRY.
Ripping, Tearing Sound Follows Up
rising of Bruin, Necessitating
Reclothing of Trooper.
SAN FRANCISCO. Oct. 4. (Special.)
A small black bear, the property of
Troop B, of the First Cavalry, and re
cently captured in the Sequoia National
Park, nut one section of the United
States Army to rout this afternoon.
A squad of recruits was going
through saber drill behind the cavalry
barracks. Ordinarily three bears from
Sequoia Park have undisputed posses
sion of the courtyard behind the bar
racks. Just then Trooper Fred Jamie
son swung his saber in a rear stroke
and caught a black bear right across
the bead with the flat of it.; It did not
hurt the bear any, but it did hurt his
feelings. He baa been used to the
kindest treatment since Joining the
Army.
' Trooper Jamieson was facing due
east, entirely unaware that he naa
struck the bear. The bear rose on
his hind legs, stretched his claws a
couple of times to see that they were
in good working order and then made
a swipe at Trooper Jamieson with both
feet. There was a ripping, tearing
sound and the entire west side of
Trooper Jamieson's trousers remained
In the bear's claws.
Without waiting for any orders
Trooper Jamieson made a leap toward
the barracks, and when he returned to
saber practice with a new pair of
trousers on the drill line was moved
forward beyond the reach of the Pre
sidio menagerie. T
SENSATION JS
PROMISED
Testify Before
McCormlck Will
Clapp Committee.
NEW YORK, Oct. 4. Medill McCor
mlck, in charge of Roosevelt Progres
sive headquarters at Chicago, sent
word to National Progressive head
quarters here tonight that he had been
subpenaed to appear before the Clapp
committee. That Mr. McCormick's tes
tlmony will cause a sensation was pre
dicted by representatives of the party
here. ,
"I will testify that I have contrib
uted money to finance Colonel Roose
velt's campaign out of my own pocket.'
Mr. McCormlck telegraphed to New
York headquarters. "I shall also de
mand that the committee call Fred W.
Cpham, collector for the Republican
campaign fund, and ask him the names
of contributors and the amounts they
gave. I will probably have interest
ing things to tell the committee that
will be more valuable than anything
I can tell about the Roosevelt cam
paign fund."
"SEE AMERICA " IS SLOGAN
"Glacials" to Seek to Have Postage
Stamps Show Home Scenery.
ST. PAUL, Oct. 4. Fourteen Eastern
newspaper men who have been the
guests of L. W. Hill, chairman of the
Great Northern Railway board, on i
trip to Glacier Park, arrived here yes
terday. As a result cf the Journey an or
ganization was effected of Eastern and
Western newspaper men known as the
"Glacials," the primary object of which
is that the people of the United States
may be Induced to see America before
traveling in Europe. Efforts are also
to be made to have future postage
stamps lithographed so that the scenic
wonders of America may be shown as
part of the decorative scheme of the
stamps.
PEACE WITH ITALY MADE
Turkish Cabinet Accepts Proposal, Is
Announcement Made.
LONDON. Oct. 4. Peace between
Italy and Turkey was signed at Ouchy,
Switzerland, last night, according to a
news agency dispatch received here
from Paris.
CONSTANTINOPLE, Oct. 4. That the
Turkish Cabinet voted yesterday to ac
cept Italy's latest proposal for peace
was the announcement made today
from an authoritative source.
The preliminary agreements were to
be signed upon the arrival at Ouchy of
a special Turkish emissary, who left
Constantinople immediately after the
Cabinet meeting.
EUROPEANS ARE MENACED
Chinese Rebel Makes Threat to Kill
, " Foreigners at Foo-Chow.
, AMOY. China. Oct. 4. Threats to
sacrifice European lives at Foo-Chow
have been uttered by General Pung,
unless his demands for 450,000 taels
(about' 1315,000) from the authorities
are acceded to.
The mutinous troops with General
Pung number from 10.600 to 20,000
men. A force of 6000 government
troops is marching from Nanking to
meet the rebels.
The missionaries have been recalled
from the Hinghwa district to the north
of this city, where serious disorder has
existed for some time.
YOUNG MATRICIDE CAUGHT
Boy of 1 2 Tells, Without Tears, How
He Killed His Mother.
WEST ANTHONY. Idaho, Oct. 4. Ar
thur Whltaker. 13 years old, was cap
tured today, after he had been driven
by hunger from his hiding place in a
haystack, where he took refuge yes
terday after he had shot and killed his
mother. , .
The boy was taken to the county Jail,
where he told without a tear and with
an unshaken voice bow he had killed
hjs mother.
F
Moslems Curse Enemy,
Doubting Valor.
LIGATIONS ARE ATTACKED
Servian Minister Will Leave
Constantinople Today.
RUSSIAN ACTIVITY NOTED
Porte Believes That Hand of Musco
vite Will Be Restrained by
Threats of Austria and
German Opposition.
CONSTANTINOPLE, Oct. 4. (Spe
cial.) Sentiment In favor of war is
increasing in Turkey. ' Several thou
sand persons held a mass meeting to
day In the mosque of Sultan Ahmed I,
at Stamboul, at which all references
to the Balkan states were greeted with
cries of "cursed be Bulgaria, Servla.
Greece and Montenegro."
Several leaders of the Liberal party
addressed the meeting, declaring that
Turkey was ready to face all her foes.
Cabinet Ministers Named.
Hilma Pasha and Munhlr Pasha have
been appointed cabinet ministers with
out portfolios. ' This step was taken
in view of the gravity of the situation
There were continued reports today
of skirmishes on the frontiers, but no
definite news concerning them was re
ceived.
The Servian Minister will depart
from Constantinople tomorrow, leaving
the legation in the bands of a charge
d'affaires..
Hostile demonstrations against the
Italian eVnbassy and the Bulgarian and
other Balkan legations were renewed.
tonight by the populace. They were
more violent in form than those of
Thursday night, Many windows were
broken by showers of bricks and
stones and -the troops were -called to
assist the police in dispersing the riot
ers. No Fear Expressed.
Contempt for the military qualities
of the Balkan people is prominently
shown in the words and mien of Turk
ish soldiers from the highest to the
lowest.
The feeling is obvious also among
Turkish civilians of high position, and
If confidence in victory can win for
the Moslems in the event of war with
the Christians, the triumph of Turkish
arms is assured. '
Bulgarian Declarations Doubted.
The high principles set forth by the
Balkan advocates of war are not ac-
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ratio
BULGAB5
INDEX OF TODAY'S NEWS
The Weather.
YESTERDAY'S Maximum temperature, 60
degrees: minimum, 4S degrees.
TODAY'S Fair snd warmer; northwesterly
winds.
Foreign.
Nlcaraguan government capture town of
Malays, where people are starving.
Page 8.
Turks -eager for war with Bulgarians and
allies, page J.
National.
Colonel Roosevelt denies he solicited cam
paign funds or made any promisee.
Page 1.
Politics.'
Chairman Moores gives some interesting ex
planation as to why millionaires oaca
- Bull Moose. Page 18.
Wilson says light ia late in reaching Roose
velt., Page 6.
Governor Marshall says Roosevelt and Bev
. erldge are "self-lntoxlcated." Page 2.
Ben Selling, says he will be elected United
folate Senator by substantial majority.
- Page 13.
George N. Davla opens campaign for. Cir
cuit judgeship, rage .
Roosevelt swing around clrcnlt leaves .him
loser, says Washington report. Page 2.
Domestic
Federal prosecutor says Iron. Workers' Union
officials appropriated money to buy ex
plosives, page 3.
Twehty-flve women poisoned at dinner in
uenver. Page 1. :
Miss Helen Gould may' write book on up
lift work. Page 6. ..
Outlaws hold up - train and make escape-
Page j.-
Black bear routs section of American Army,
page 1.
Sports. '
Portland and Spokane Athletic Club ar
range programme. Page 9.
Pacific Coast League: Portland 2, Oakland
l, X.OS Angeles 7, can Francisco 2: ver-
non-Sacramento game postponed, rain.
Page - -.
Canadian marksmen lead tourney. Page 14.
Red's , twirling staff leads over Giants.
Page 8.
Paclfle Northwest. '
Without Jealousy Valley cities unite in Wll-
lamette channel project, page T.
Robert Strahom addresses Eugene Commer
cial ciuo. page 7.
School children and politicians hold sway
at uauas. polk county, fair. Page 7.
Between sobs, .which interrupt proceedings.
tumoerman creech, ot Raymond, - tells
tale of murder. Page 1.
Columbia-Snake River Waterways Associa
tion meets at X.ewlston. page 7.
Commercial and Marine.
Opening prices on new crop walnut made
by calixornla Association. Page 18.
Wheat advances sharply at Chicago on war
rumors. Page J u.
Stock prices break owning to heavy foreign
selling, page la.
Volume of business greater than In former
years, page 19.
All claims for deaths by explosion on steam
er &aran . ijixon settieo. page is.
Portland and Vicinity.
"Tin Plate" ordinance recommended by
council committee, page 14.
Mrs. Baldwin says 27 public dances are
operating under satisfactory condltlona
Page 12.
Plan to make vacant property pay share
of water expense to be considered Tues
day. Page 11.
Mayor RushUgbt believes commission char
ter would save money for the city,
Pag 13.
Plot to entrap Governor West believed con
spiracy of Klaoey. page H .
R. B. Miller makes plea for modern agri
cultural system in Oregon. Page 14. .. .
Columbia bridge campaign start.. Page 4.
Seventh street property owners file protest
against znteruroan car move, page 4.
Permit for 14-story telephone building fa-
vorea ry committee, page is. '
Vancouver May Get Presbyterians.
SEATTLE, Wash., Oct. 4. The 23d
annual session of the Presbyterian
synod of Washington completed Its
work and adjourned today. The place
of next year's convention was not
?hosen. but the advisory board was in
structed to arrange if possible to hold
the meeting at Vancouver, Wash., at
the same time the Oregon synod meets.
similar Joint meeting of the Wash
ington and Oregon synods was held
there 17 years ago.
DISCOVERED..
OUTLAWS HOLD UP
TRII Ai ESCAPE
Express Car Safes Are
Blown Up; Looted.
PASSENGERS NOT MOLESTED
Railway Men Forced Behind
Trunks During Blast.
FOUR ROBBERS MASKED
After Opening Safes Desperadoes
Gather Valuables Into Gunny
sack Crime Is Committed
Near Poteau, Oklahoma.
WESTVILLE, Okla., Oct. 4. Four
masked men held up Kansas City
Southern passenger train No. 4, north
bound, three and a half miles north of
Poteau tonight," ransacked the mails,
blew open the safe In the express car
and retreated into the wood-covered
hills that skirt the railroad at that
point.
The men boarded the .train as it
stopped at a crossing a short distance
from Poteau. Crawling over the tender,
two of them covered the engineer and
fireman with revolvers, while the
others robbed the mall and express
cars.
Through" Hall Demanded.
After wrecking the express car safe
with nitroglycerine the robbers entered
the mail car and demanded all the
through" mail. Refusing to accept the
clerks' word that there was none, they
ransacked the pouches, getting not
more than a dozen letters, that are be
lieved to contain little of value.
The loot from the express car Is est!
mated at $10,000. The bank at Heaven
er, Okla., Is said to have had $7000 on
the train. The loot was carried away
in a gunny sack.
William West, 13 year old, who- re
sides near by, saw the men climb on
the train. Two men went Into the ex
press and baggage car, and a third
climbed on the tender. Toung West
saw the men who entered the express
car brandish their revolvers and called
to passengers that robbers were aboard.
His cries were disregarded.
Air I Cut Off.
Two miles farther on the man on the
tender cut the air and brought the
train to a stop. As he did so, he leaped
to the ground and the robbers Inside
the express car started to work.
L. P. Kerr, express messenger, and J.
L. Williams, baggageman, both of Kan
sas City, at the point of revolvers, were
driven behind a pile of trunks - and
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25 WOMEN DINING IN
CHURCH POISONED
METHODIST MISSIONARY SOCI
ETY DELEGATES VICTIMS.
Five of Those Suffering From Pto
maines in Serious Condition
After Denver Dinner.
DENVER, Oct. 4. Twenty-five wom
en, delegates to the annual convention
of the Topeka branch of the Women's
Foreign Missionary Society of the
Methodist Episcopal Church, were
stricken with ptomaine poisoning here
tonight during a dinner at Trinity
Church, at which 300 delegates were
present Many others became ill after
leaving the church. Physicians are
unable to decide what food was re
sponsible for the trouble.
Those in a serious condition tonlgHc
are:
Mrs. William Winkler, Denver.
Miss Lula Holman, Topeka, Kan.
Mrs. George Wyrick, Eaton, Colo.
Mrs. Hoffman Mies, Fort Worth, Tex.
Mrs. Lydla Andrews. Lincoln, Neb.
Those whose condition is the most
dangerous are Miss. Holman and Mrs.
Wyrick.
The 25 women who were stricken at
the table became ill shortly after the
dessert was served. All but six were
able to go to their homes. The dinner
was provided by a caterer.
JEWELS SEWED IN SKIRT
Demented Woman Carried Gems
Worth In Vicinity of $700.
SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 4. (Special.)
Seventy-five pieces of Jewelry, valued
at $700, were found sewed in the under
skirt of Mrs. Julia Kane, aged 41 years,
when ifhe was disrobed in the Detention
Hospltr.l, where she was taken today
and paced under observation to deter
mine ?er sanity.
Mrs. Kane gave her address as the
Dayton Hotel, Portland, and said her
husband was connected with the J. D.
Hennessy Company there. She arrived
in San Francisco three days ago and
was found on the waterfront and sent
to the Harbor Emergency Hospital. She
was sent from there to the Central
Emergency Hospital, and was released
yesterday mornlngr She secured
room at 722 Golden Gate avenue but
ran Into the street, screaming, at noon
and was arrested again. The woman is
the victim of hallucinations. She says
she has had seven husbands. She car
ried a doll dressed in baby clothes.
The Portland authorities have been
asked to find her husband. ....
HADLEY TO SUPPORT TAFT
Missouri Governor and President
1 Agreed as to Primary Reforms.
JEFFERSON CITT. Mo., Oct. 4.
Qovernor Hadley, at a Republican ral
ly here last night, said he had received
assurances that President Taft would
support the reforms Governor Had
ley outlined September 29 in St. Louis
and declared he would support the Re
publican ticket.
WASHINGTON, Oct. 4 Carmi A.
Thompson, secretary of the President,
addressed a letter to Governor Had
ley, of Missouri, saying that "on ac
count of a certain discussion that has
arisen in the past few days," he deemed
It proper to define President Taft's
position on Presidential primaries..
Mr. - Thompson quoted from the
speech delivered in Boston last March,
in which the President said he favored
and welcomed primaries for the Pres
idency whenever they could be safe
guarded by state laws, and added: "The
President suggests that I say to you
that he has in nowise changed his
views, but adheres firmly to his posi
tion as defined at that time."
SMUGGLING RING BROKEN
Conviction of Men in San Francisco
Believed to End' Traffic.
SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 4. In the
conviction of Adolph Adolphson, Wil
liam Sundgren amd Wong Ott here to
day, on charges of having conspired
to smuggle Chinese Into this country
from Mexico, immigration officials be
lieve a coastwlde smuggling conspiracy
has been undermined and that traffic
In contraband Chinese In California
soon will cease. .A Jury In the Fed
eral Court, in finding the three men
guilty, asked that clemency be shown
Sundgren.
The men were arrested soon after a
cargo of Chinese were smuggled ashore
June 1 from the launch Earl.K., the
property of Wong Ott, which later was
seized by Government officials. Ac
cording to testimony given at the
trial the launch was used by Adolph.
son and Sundgren, and Adolphson re
ceived $250 for each Chinese brought
in.
REBEL CHIEF KEEPS LAW
Colonel Orders Own Soldier Shot for
Trying to Assault Woman.
EL PASO, Tex, Oct. 4. A rebel sol
dier was executed yesterday by order
of his chief for an attempted assault
on an American woman. This is the
sequel of the story of an American
child who saved' her mother in Colonla
Juarez, Mexico, as related by R. T.
Bentley, a Mormon bishop, who arrived
here today.
After negotiations between the Mor
mon Church officials and Colonel En
rique Bertlllo, a rebel chief, Mrs. Miles
Romney Journeyed to the rebel camp
and Identified her assailant. Colonel
Portlllo ordered the man executed.
The 10-year-old daughter of Mrs.
Romney, who leaped from the second
story window of the house to summon
help, when the rebel entered, fractured
her right arm in the fall.
COLONEL DENIES HE
SOLICITED
FUNDS
Charges Against Him
Termed "Hearsay."
MORGAN CONTRIBUTION KEVV3
Witness Says First Knowledge
Was From Testimony.
SESSION IS . PICTURESQUE
Committee and Spectators Frequently
Moved to Laughter by Remarks.
Bliss and . McHarg Are
Warmly Defended.
WASHINGTON, Oct 4. Theodore
Roosevelt occupied the witness chair
three and a half hours today before
the Senate investigating committee, de
fending his Administration, himself and
his Cabinets against what he termed
"Infamous charges'' and "hearsay evi
dence." He appeared before the committee to
answer statements made in August by
John D. Archbold that the Standard
OH Company had given $100,000 to the
Republican campaign fund in 1904
under the impression that President
Roosevelt knew of and approved ac
ceptance of the contribution. Not only
did Colonel Roosevelt deny this, but
he put into the records a sweeping de
nial that he had ever solicited funds
from anyone while President; that any
money had been received by the 1904
campaign committee with an express
or Implied promise of favors from the
Administration; that excessive funds
had been used in his 1904 campaign or
in the 1908 campaign, or that money
ever had- been Improperly used In his
behalf. So far as he knew.
Harrhnan Asked Aid, T. R. Says.
In reference to the Harrlman fund
of $240,000. raised in 1904, Colonel
Roosevelt declared the statements, of
J. P. Morgan, George R. Sheldon end
others had fully corroborated his earllor
statements that this fund was raised
expressly for the New Tork state cam
paign and had not been solicited by
him for bis own support in the fight
for election that year.
There was not one word spoken by
Mr. Harrlman or by me having any
reference to any collection of funds for
the National campaign," he said, re
ferring to his interview with Mr. Har
rlman in October, 1904. , "On the con
trary, the request was from Mr. Har
rlman that Inasmuch as we had ample
funds for the National campaign and
as the National campaign was safe, we
could help him out in the state cam
paign." The sessions of the committee were
picturesque throughout. Colonel Roose
velt arrived at the committee room ten
minutes before the hour of opening.
His progress into the building was
marked with cheers from a throng that
surged through the corridors.
Colonel Sits on Platform.
Colonel Roosevelt was placed in a
chair on a little square platform, from
which h looked down upon the table
at which sat Senators Clapp, Oliver,
Pomerene and Paynter. William Loeb,
Jr., his former private secretary, now
Collector of Customs at New Tork. came
with him and occupied a seat at his
left. The ex-President turned repeat
edly to ask Mr. Loeb for facts and rec
ords; and at the end of -his testimony
Mr. Loeb himself took the stand to cor
roborate statements of Colonel Roose
velt. Expressions that brought laughter
from the committee and spectators in
terspersed the Colonel's remarks
throughout the day. Once he said:
"1 actually sent for, while I was
President, trust magnates, labor lead
ers. Socialists, John L. Sullivan, Bat
tling Nelson (there was a pause) and
Dr. Lyman Abbott."
White House Latcbatring Out.
This was In response to questions
as to the propriety of his sending for
E. H. Harrlman in 1904 to discuss mat
ters of legislation or campaign affairs.
"If I am elected President," he added,
"if Mr. Rockefeller or anyone else
wants to see me, I'll see .him."
Again when Senator Pomerene asked
if some corporations did not expect re
turns for their contributions, Colonel
Roosevelt declared emphatically':
"As a practical man of high ideals,
who has always endeavored to put his
Steals into practice, 1 think any man
who would believe that he would get
any consideration from making any
contribution to me, was either a
crook or a fool."
When the crowded committee room
was swept with a burst of applause,
the witness turned around and said:
"Stop that, please."
Asked whether the so-called "coal
trust" had contributed to his cam
paigns, he replied: "Jly dear sir, after
the revelations that have been made
here. I would not be surprised air any
one' having contributed."
Mora Contrlbotloa Declared Neni.
He had said previously that he had
no Idea that Mr. Morgan had con
tributed to his 1904 campaign until the
financier testified yesterday. The only
reference to the use of money in the
McHarg had used funds improperly in
Roosevelt Progressive campaign this
year was brought in by Colonel Roose
velt himself, with a denial that Ormsby
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