TIIE MORXIXG OREGOXIA2T, TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12. 1911. 12 DOCKS ADVOCATED AND ALSO DECRIED Opinion of Shippers and Job- x bers Vary Greatly at First Meeting. GRAIN MEN ARE SATISFIED Commission and Noted Engineers Here to Recommend Beet System PIm-um Problems Confront ed Hood Recalled. Divergence of opinion at time most marked and which, at other time, suc ceeded In developing unexpected facts. waa a characteristic feature of the meeting- of the Jobbers and shippers of Portland with the Comralnslon of Public Pocks and ths board of New Tork ad visory engineers j-'sterday m the rooms of the Chamber of Commerce In the Commercial Club building. Whether the dorks ehould be built for the traffic of the present day or for that whfch might develop; what the precise scop of a public docks system should be. whether It was to be built for general trade or Just for particular lines; ths prospective locations, nine's or double-deck docks and their heights all these and more questions were threshed out by speakers called upon by F. W. Uulkey, chairman of the Com mission. Soass? Wnli Ralld for Fwtar. While there were speakers who a serted the docks of Portland should be built to take care of trade that could be seen at present, others contended that plana should be drawn that would embrace a proposed construction of dorks suitable for a city of 1.000.000 people. Representatives of the grain and lumber trades contended that public docks would be useful to them only In the ability of the docks to handle 1m ports only. It was their opinion, they said, that grain and lumber could not be handled suitably by public docks. On the other hand, this view was con tested by river steamboat representa tives and Jobbers, who asserted that there was no valid reason why public docks should not be all-embracing here as Is the esse In other systems. The liability of ths river to rise to a point similar to that of the flood of lilt was deemed by many as not worthy of consideration, but Captain W. & Buchanan, of the Open Klver Steamboat Company, declared that the older a man grew the more certain he waa that no on knew what the vagar ies of the river might be. Dot Oaaldrrr. Eatlrlas. "If works were proposed that would liv the effect of lowering the flood from two to four fret, what would be the saving to Portland business men? Chairman Mulkey asked George Tay lor. . "The Lord Almighty alone would know that. answered Mr. Taylor. In reply to a similar question Captain Buchanan said that he did not believe such works could ever be constructed. ' In opening the "round table" discus sion. President Haller. of the Chamber of Commerce, said the building of docks would not bring ships to Port land, but it would b easier to bring ships to this port If such docks mere In existence. -I don't think II.SOO.OOO will accomp lish what w need. said President Hal ler. -but It will point the way." Mr. Haller declared that he knew of at least one steamship line that did not com to Portland through Its Inability to obtain dockage. When plans were bout ready, the speaker declared, a competing line came In and obtained the land desired. Grata Facilities Held Cm. W. J. Burns, of Balfour. Guthrie A Company, said wheat was a commodity that could not be handled by public docks, but had. by reason of grading and other processes, to he shipped by the Individual. He did not believe that the facilities for handling the staple could be Improved. The underwriters hsve forblJden the shipment of wheat In bulk, he declared. The bulk of the grain was shipped from the. East Side. Imports by the grain fleet were small, most of the ahlps coming In ballast, he declared. A. I. Allen, of Allen ft Lewis, agreed with Mr. Burns that the grain facilities were adequate and he txpressed the opinion that the river craft could be disregarded. II was of the opinion that only trad likely to originate east of the Panama Canal, which would travel through the Isthmus, need he considered. Mr. Allen looked for an Increase In Imports, he said, and added that he did not believe Portland was suffering from th railroads, instancing that for freight Spokane-bound that bad ar rived via water they provided free docks. Mr. Allen discussed the pub lished plans of James J. Hill with re gard to th ultimata development of Burlington as a seaport. Crytag Ved ' eeeu "As business exists today, there Is no crying need for public docks," he asserted. That plans should be made for th future rather than for th present were the views expressed by F. C Knapp, of the Peninsula Lumber Company. As a shipper of lumber he said he would b willing to os a public dock and he thougnt a percentage of both grain and lumber would pass Into bottoms from public docks. Contradicting a previous speaker. O. M. Clark, of the Clark-Wilson Lumber Company, said the lumber carriers com ing from th Orient brought a larg general cargo to this port. He thought th docks would handle both grain and lumber and urged that plans be made that would embrace finally a prospec tive city of 1.004.000 population. Mr. Clark favored West Sid docks and de clared that business would not move to the East Bide, instancing New Tork and Brooklyn as an example. Mr. Clark said a provision should be made for th East tilde, however. Tw. Lerels Advocated George Taylor, of Taylor A Toung, spoke of the urgent necessity for docks having two levels. He said the upper level ought to be at least on and on- half feet over the 1S94 13-foot high water mark. Mr. Taylor discussed the nature of the floods and said he thought that grain and lumber might be bandied by the public dorks. Sam Mears. of the Portland Cordage Company, mentioned the difficulty the steamers of the American-Hawaiian line, the Kosmoa and Blue Funnel steamers had In an effort to obtain ac commodations here.'' He said that there was nothing here to handle their larger boats. He urged the buying of ample, lands for public docks with an initial dock construction. W. 8. Smallwood. D. A. Pattullo and D. O. Lively discussed th prospective docks as they would affect river boats, the handling of cement and the Indus tries of the Peninsula. Mr. Lively asked that special attention be paid to th Peninsula. NEW PAYING PLAN FORMS System Ueilscd for City to Karn 920,000 Annually. The city's present system of paying contractors for street Improvements will be so revised that the city will receive about $20,000 annually In Inter est. If the efforts of a number of the members of the City Council are suc cessful. An ordinance is to be drafted which will make possible the payment in i ha rAnirirton of all the money due them when the payments are re- I their tributaries by which it Is fed. con e stltute INLETS ARE ALSO WATERSHED PART Court Holds Port of Coos Bay Includes All Tributaries Feeding Basin. SUIT OF OWNERS FAILS Demurrer of A. II. liule, Who Op posed Paying Tax on Holdings Is Overruled Interpreta tion Applies to Others.""- celved. Cnder the present system the I Holding that a bay, the streams and itarles by which it Is red. con- a drainage basin, and mat me pleta with crazy chatter and new songs of a Jolly order, which they manufac tured themselves, these clever folk maintain genuine fun for a round of 20 minutes. A good looking girl and a man not good looking, but both of whom csn elng. have a singing fest labeled "Tlldy and Ezra." Conversa tion of a bucolic nature, and cheerful patter of farm life is perpetrated to the glee of everybody in front. Their act is beautifully staged; an old mill race being shown, the wheel silent, and the mfton rising over a low hill. Wort MarRae and Welling Levering open the bill with eccentricities in dulged in while gayly scooting around on bicycles. As a finale they have a cycle aeroplano that " brings the ap plause In quantity. A caning act Laughlln's finishes the list. A bunch of clean, frisky little fox terriers go through a repertoire of ex ceedingly clever tricks, of which the best is rolling up and down an Inclined road in a ball. Pantages. LCIGI D'URBANO and his Royal Italian bank are the star perform ers at Pantages this week. From the first note to the last one is sure he is listening to musicians who know how to play. The band's principal number is a . selection from "Carmen." Its first number is a march by the band leader. A third number contained se lections from "Madam Sherry" and as a tribute to the prolonged applause "Alexander Hag Time Band" was played. Nothing that the audience MEMBERS OF BOARD HERE TO INSPECT PUBLIC DOCKS SITUATION. rq f ki ( H mC inn i if i I 1 1 il LanMkwU . : itmA 1 W. J. Baraer, eead Deputy Com asissloaer, . w York) Depart snrat f Docks sad Wharves. E. P. Goodrich, Consulting Engi neer of th Bureau of Manhattan. Charlea W Stanlford, Chief Engi neer f the Ken York Depart ment of Docks and Frrrira. city holds out S per cent of the amount of each assessment to cover th costs of advertising and the services of the City Engineer, holding tS from every 1100 paid by the property owners. The 155 balance goes to th contractors and the city placea the IS In the bank where It draws 2 per cent Interest. I nder the proposed new system the contractor will get the full amount paid on every assessment until paid In full and the city will wait until the end of the payment period before extracting the 5 per cent. In this way the city will receive C per cent on the money Instead of Z per cent, the per cent being the legal amount for delin quent payments. Besides being a benefit to th city In a financial way. It is said, th sys tem will save much work for th City Treasurer. Th contractors are said to be in hearty accord with th plan, as It makes It possible for them to pay back borrowed money on which they have to pay as high as S per cent Interest. PITCHERS ARE' PRIZES Northern Pacific Offer Silver Tro phies for Northwest Products. Oregon farmers are offered addition al Inducements to exhibit products of their soil at th Northwest Land Products Show that opens in St. Paul today by the prtze pitchers to be given by Howard Elliott, president of the Northern Pacific Railway. On of tuese I Itchers will be given for th best exhibit of alfalfa grown In Central Oregon, and another for th best exhibit of processed fruits from Washington or Oregon. Similar awards are offered for the best bushel of ap ples grown In Minnesota, the best sam ple of barley grown In North Dakota or Montana, the best flax grown in North Iakota or Montana and for th best products of logged-off lands In Idaho. The prlxe pitchers are offered in such a way that the Individual grower will win them, and they will each go to farm homes In the Northwest, wher they are sure to be appreciated by rea son of being of utility a well as ornamental. In SDeaklng of the donation of these pitchers President Elliott said: "Th silver pltcners are a new inins In the prlxe line, and I believe are a haDDT solution of the problem of a prlxe. which will really be valued for what they are as well as lor wnax mey reDresent, W have selected pitchers of the latest natterns. and Christmas in six Northwest homes will b the brighter this year by th presence of these pitchers. HEALTH BOARD TO MEET State Officers to Hold Annual Con ference) at Salem Thursday. The annual meeting of the Stat Board of Health will be held in the ex ecutive office at the Capitol at Salem next Thursday. The work'of the pre ceding year and the financial status of the Board will be discussed, wniie re port will be received from the various officers. One of the chief questions that will be taken up at the meeting will be that of new water supplies for Willamette Valley cities. . rr. Calvin 8. White, sec retary of the Board, has been making extensive Investigations along that line for th Ixtst year, and he will recom mend a plan for improving the system. Under this head will be considered also the subject of bettering sanitary con ditions in small towns. A Dlan to compel enforcing of th laws that require reports of contagious diseases, births, deaths and lnsanl tary conditions will also be considered. While deaths are usually reported, there are frequent Instances wher reports of births, contsglous diseases and inssnl tarv conditions are neglected. Th health officers are not Inclined to blama county health officers for tnis laxity, but rather individual doctors, particu larly In country districts. A Dlan for montmy conierences oi county health officers, tending to make the state health machinery move In bet ter harmony, also will be considered. Upright pianos rented. 13 to 15 per month Chlckerlng. Kimball. Stelnway, Kohler. and many other popular makes. All rent paid can apply on purchase price If desired. Kohler a: Chase. 176 Washington st. Open day and night. watershed consists of all the territory from which the waters flow Into the basin and consequently Into the bay. United states Judge Wolverton yester day dismissed the demurrer to the com plaint in the suit of A. IL Hals against the Port of Coos Bay. As the owner of property on the wa tershed of what Is known, as South Slough, at the west end of Coos Bay, Mr. Hale sought to enjoin th port for taxing his holdings for the improve ment of the upper part of the bay. He contended that th South Slouch was a drainage basin within Itself and for that reason It was not intended in the statute that land lying within the watershed of South Slough should be taxed for Improvements In Upper Coos Bay. "It was evident the purpose and In tendment -of the Legislature." held the court, "to confer ample authority upon . th ports, when duly organised, to V 1 . . .1 ' 1 MnHnWAm.n. In (k. IllttKO CILOUUI .Mil, w . cm,u b .u bays and waters over which they are given jurisdiction. Th improvements may extend to th waters within th bay or to th Improvement of th channel to the sea. so a to Insure greater safety to navigaxian, An en tire bay may belm proved through th agency of th Incorporation or port established In pursuance of the act and it . probably was th purpose In establishing th Port of Coos Bay to Improve all the harbors and ths Chan nels to th sea of Coos Bay." 1 The court held that the language of the statute which provides that the limits of a port "shall not extend be yond th natural watershed of any . drainage basin whose waters flow Into ! another bay, estuary or river navigable ! from the sea" was designed to prevent th combining of two or more ports of entry from th sea, unless found In the same county. In one schema lor improvements. I "South "Slough, therefore, being an arm of Coos Bay, reads the decision, "does not constitute a separate integer for a drainage basin. The drainage basin of Coos Bay comprises all Its i arms and Inlets, including South Slough I and Its tributaries, as well as Coos ' River and its tributaries and all other ' sloughs and their tributaries entering Coos Bay." New Bills Open at th Vaudeville Houses Orphean. SLIM, pretty Ray Samuels simply walks away with everything In sight at the Orpheum. and you may know that this is "going consider able." for th rest of the bill Is "soma" larg show. Ray has a little Una of fine print under her cog nomen, which informs the publlo that she la "a blue streak of ragtime." Sha mi too modest by far. She's th con centrated essence of all the electric streaks of ragtime that ever came to town. All her songs are new, and she "puts them over" with "gestures" and bunches of unadulterated personality. She stopped the show yesterday, and. even though she Is mora than generous with her encores, the house begged for more. ' A perfectly nice young man helps this "lalrest of Rays serene" with his piano accompaniment. She dresses in a gorgeous creation of chiffon and dew drop net, and doesn't do the Inevitable "change - of - wardrobe" stunt Just to show her clothes. She has other asset than raiment. The original eight "Palace Girls" singers and steppers, "Just from a five year engagement at the Palace Theater In London," have a novelty number consisting of Intricate drills and fancy foot-fllnglng. The remarkable thing about this act Is Its "team work"; they even wink their eyes and draw their breathe In perfect unison, but why not, after five years of doing it as "one"? Caryl Wilbur, who doubles up on himself and plays twins. Is sponsor for a delightful little sketch. Helped along by a dainty bit of bjonde femininity named Maude Terry, In the role of the landlady's niece, a most unsophisticated maiden, Mr. Wilbur plays the dual roles of a minister and a young chap Just expelled from college. The situations, which hinge on the natural mistake th niece makes In taking each for t'other, a of a laugh-provoking kind, and Mr. 'Wilbur excellently portrays- the comedy role of the "black sheep." as well as preserves the sanctimonious air of the divine. A duo of song writers Kellar Mack and Frank Orth have a highly comlo number called "Th Wrong Hero." R- could do In the way of noise to ex press Its appreciation could lure the high-nrlced bandsters to play again. Lamb's manikins, a production of SO mechanical figures In a miniature vau devlle show. Is another elaborate act. Wilson and Cumby entertain with their skit. "The Band Man and His Band." Dressed as two Darktown bandmen. they give two or three mu sical numbers, alternating with coon songs and dances. Dave Nowlan gives two songs and a monologue. James A. Smith and company are seen in a playlet called "The Man from Denver." Ruby Belle, an adventuress. la told by one of her victims tnat un less she produces th husband she boasts h will kill her. Ruby sends her maid out to find a temporary hus band. Molly finds a derelict In China town, a "dope" fiend, whose slang terms add humor to th playlet. Empress. II ENRT SCHNIFF. the leading char II acter In a , condensed version of the play. "The Girl Behind the Coun ter." which Is funning this week at the Empress Theater, causes general consternation when he shows his Ignorance at mixing sodawater, and sets off the soda fountain like an en gine exhaust. Nat Fields plays this part. Lottie Freemont takes the part of Mrs. Schnlff. nee Mrs. WUIoughby, in whom the unexpected acquisition of wealth has awakened a desire for so clftl conquest. Henri Duval, a Parisian expert In millinery and lingerie, and manager of the "Universal Department Store, cis covers that shop-lifting is going on In his store to an alarming extent. He therefore telephones to Scotland Yard for a detective. Schnlff responds to the call, and Is himself mistaken for a thief, when he attempts to wipe away a tear with a bunch of neckties han Ing nearby. He is placed behind the soda counter after making known bis identity. Frank Wallace plays the part of the Parisian store-keeper. Of the musical numbers. "Baby. Save Your Kisses for Me." is exceptionally well sung by Elizabeth Mayne. "Beau tiful Doll." "On the Boulevard" and "The Band-Box Girl," are also on the programme. William J. Sullivan and Pasquelina Clarice win applause In the "C. O. D. Package." Vllmos Westony, pianist. gives a pleasing selection from "Tann hauser." and responds to encores with "Alexander's Ragtime Band," played as a funeral march. Iyrlo. "" HERE Isn't much plot to "The Hen I Peck Family," the current at traction at the Lyric, hut there Is a good deal of fun. Just when one thinks he understands what It's all about. In comes a chorus and his un derstanding fades away. Mrs. Peck, it seemed, had recently married again. and had Just arrived witn ner new husband to visit her daughter and son-in-law. To please his young wife the son-in-law soon after the rela tives' arrival, bought a second-hand piano from his mother-in-law's new husband and was having It repaired, when the trouble-making mother-in-law mistook the conferences of the young man and the piano-mender to be something scandalous. There are all s-fts of complications arising from this stata of affairs. All ends hap pily. There are a number of pretty chor uses and solos and the dancing Is mora graceful than ever. Edward 8. Allen maintains hia place as the best actor In the company with his portrayal of Doc. Knott, the piano-mender. Llllie Sutherland plays the part of Mrs. Hen Peck. Stella Gayboy Is pleasingly given by Maybelle Baker. Jack Wise is good In the part of Willie Peck and in the song. "Baseball." sung with a chorus of girls in baseball suits, gets a lot of applause. Other song hits are "Jack and Jill." "Nothing too Good for You. Dear." "Patricia Salome." "Di nah" and "Don't Forget the Number." FITTED SUIT CASES AND BAGS. A large variety at Harris Trunk Mfg. VV., - " m WEBKOOT OIL DRESSING. them absolutely waterproof. Us It ourlng rainy weather. At any ator. tk. hiir niirht of the txoosltion. real Chinese wedding. Come early. Doors open at :4S. Wedding at 1:10. j WATER LAW SOUGHT Commission Delegate Says Power Needs Regulation. F. T. GRIFFITH RETURNS Chief Counsel of Traction Company Declares Aim Is to Develop Latent River Force Under Protective System. "If the latent water power of the Northwest is to be developed, a system of regulation that will encourage capl tal must be defined," declared Franklin T. Griffith, chief counsel for the Port land Railway, Light & Power Com pany, on his return yesterday from Washington, D. C, where he attended the meeting of the National Water ways Commission, composed of mem bers of Congress, and of which Senator Burton, of Ohio, is chairman. Mr. viriffith. with other Western men, went to Washington at the solicitation of the commission, that desired views of persons in touch with the situation in various parts of the country. ' "The principal question under dis cussion." said Mr. Griffith, "was the demarkatlon between state and Fed eral control. I supported the conten tion of the group of 14 Western states that Congress, by enactment in 1877, divested Itself of all rights on un navigable streams. Those states wan Federal control on only the navigable Btreams, while many Eastern people who have been supporting the posi tion of the Government want to have the control of the Governmeqt extended to ail streams within the National for est reserves whether they are navig able or not. Lawa to Develop Sought. v "The purpose of the meeting was to devise and to recommend to Congress a system of laws that will permit the development of ail latent water power on the public domain under proper regulation, such development to be for the benefit of the people to be served. "Secretary Fisher, of the Interior De partment, spoke in favor of regulation along lines that will induce Invest ment of capital. Capital will not In vest, he pointed out. unless It Is given assurance that it will be safe, Mr. Fisher also declared that the service of electricity is and should be a natural monopoly, and that a regulated monop oly would produce better results than competition. "Without well defined regulation so that long-term leases can be made with reasonable assurances of renewal, much of the water power will remain unde veloped. It is aimed to obtain some legislation in Congress that will permit certain development with the assur ance of fair rates either through state or Federal control. . Iaveatora Would Be Certain. "It is not likely that there will be an immediate development of any large amount of water power even If definite laws are enacted at the present ses sion of Congress, but Investors and prospective investors then will be in a position, at least, to know what re turn they may expect on their money. It would be useless to develop a lot of power in advance of the time that it could be used. However, the Northwest Is progressing rapidly and the time is spproaching when there will be ab solute need for much of the power available." Mr. Griffith visited New Tork, Phila delphia and other Eastern .cities on his recent trip. He found business condi tions on a sound basis and learned that the East is greatly interested In the West and the Northwest. Eastern in vestors are turning their attention to Oregon and other Northwestern states. The Western Governors special train now touring the East is making a de cidedly favorable Impression among the people everywhere, and is doing much to advertise the opportunities and advantages of this portion of th country, he said. SARANAC LEASE HELD' VOID Owning Company Wins Action , for Cancelling Agreement. When R. E. West sub-leased th Saranac a rooming-house at 47 Vi North Sixth stret, for which he was paying $150 a month, to John Lolacono for 600 a month, the latter presenting the guarantee of "Chocolate" Nesme, a North End saloonkeeper, tnat me rent would be paid, the directors of the Holbrook & Lamson Investment Company, which owns the property, be gan an action for cancellation of lease. Judge Morrow yesteraay aecmea me case In favor of the investment com pany. The original lease, grren to B. H. Young, contained a provision that the rooming-house could not be sub leased without the consent of the owning company. Toung obtained written permission to turn the place over to West, but the latter subse- ToCet. lis Beneficial Effects; Always Buy the Cenuino PVm H r sr 19 119. 1 IUU il uvr and manufactured hyihe Sold by all leading Druiqists One5izeOn!-.50 o Dottle PAS. 15 TEtLOW BILIOtn PEOPLE have sick bradschf, lndI--atiOK nj ODrttonirbif ilti badfo-nplrx-loa. Ttila As 4P4UI 7 to cure wtafn yoa kiow what to do. 4 otifttlpLf pPi9 ltn hmTe lhe mptouit. W iim-re fnrfd ttor 4rmplmliitK for SO jfMn wltl Too look belter and feel better mrter naln; thrm. One pill Tor m dome S3e m box ot store or by noll. For mh oleo write Dr. BoMBko riiilA, Ccajuw Why -Mo A Piano for Christmas? . Make this the best Xmas of all the one never to be forgotten. Sim-pi- take the few dollars you will spend on ordinary gifts and make a payment on a good Piano or Player Piano. 'Twill prove the most acceptable gift for the entire family the one gift that will be enjoyed not only this Christmas, but many more to come. Eight, now we have on display a superb assortment of the very latest Pianos and Player Pianos at prices , and terms to fit any pocketbook. SPECIAL HOLIDAY OFFER: WAS $375 NOW $292 Here is a most re vmark'abl'e offer: 'Latest Style Up right Piano, choice of either mottled mahogany, burl walnut- or genuine quarter-sawed oak; superb tone; fully guaranteed. Pay $1.50 weekly or by the month. Make selection now, while stock is complete. We will deliver instru ment any time you desire. Open evenings. t ouentlv turned It over to Lolacono without permission. Judge Morrow held that the terms of the original lease were binding on all who followed tbe original lease and the control of the property reverts to the company. Chinese wedding, tonight. Auditor Holidays Hints QUALITY is the first consideration here. 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When nothing else will start dirt You KNOW SAPOLIO WILL DO IT Works Without Waste CLEANS-SCOURS-POLISHES Free Music Lessons Cut this out Take it to Graves Music Co. and arrange to re ceive a full term of free music lessons. Graves Music Co. Ill FOl'RTH ST. A 1