DOBIE'S TEAM NOT
HEAVIER OF TWO
Oregon Really Outweighs Uni
versity of Washington
Squad by Margin.
PLAYERS LOSE IN GAMES
J Carry Gridiron Star Drop XVv
Found la Hard Content Xert
BlaT Mcettn Will Be Ea)ns
MaHnarnsJi Affair.
by jooob awcxtt.
Whn ths Wuhlnrton University
football squad filed Into ths ffeneral
amission rata at Multnomah Flail
shortly prior to tha rams with Orafon
Saturday, several thousand expectant
fasa rasped at tha beefy, ferocious
aspect of the Invaders from tha north.
To hundreds It appeared that Dobla had
herded every monolith In Seattle, with
the toslble exception of tha totem
pole. Many a wise one winked tha left
cptlo at tha published weights of tha
rival bar. da. which crenitea jreon wns
an averar of 1&. to 174 for tha purple
and a-old.
Now. that tha fracaa baa paaaed and
rone. It mar b of Interest to ear that
Oregon did outweigh Ewble'e crew to a
very ellrht extent, and tr.al aamnr
ton'a welrhta are probably Tery oloaa
to tha avolrdupole average riven out.
Assistant Coach Hunt, of Oregon, ad
mitted aa much after tha Kama on Sat
urday, and Hunt baa been on tha elde
llnea In ail three of Weahinrton's bis
names of the Fall Idaho. Orefon Ag
ricultural Collars) and Urrgoa.
-1 think Doble la alncera In hta etate-
menta concerning hta welsThta. ae
dared Hunt at tba Imperial Hotel.
"Washington' uniforms and bulky pada
made tha playera appear much larger
than they really were. I don't think
Warren Orlmm la over the isi-pouna,
atrlooed. mark, nor do I think tha
othera are under-eetlmated. Tha two
teams were about a etandorT.
Muckleatone, tha daahlnp; rlrht-half-tack
who wu tha particular atar for
Washington, waa credited with ITS
' rounde by Doble. but hta weight waa
j. laced In tha official tabulation aa ISO
pounds. Tha writer piloted Muckle
etnne to a Turkish bath at 10:39 Sat
urday nlarht. and a wetern-tn with
wearier apparel showed 119 pounds. A
ten or twelve-pound allowance for
clothes brlnrs "Muck" down to tha
published allotment. Ha Insisted, too,
that his weight varied between 174 and
ITT pounda. but never had exceeded tha
latter f:ruro before any fame.
e
On tha welajht topic, few persona
know what an athlete a-oea through
d urine: a crucial contest. Many losa
from ten to twelve and aoma aa hlrh aa
14 pounda In tha 10 nitnutea on tha
rr M Iron durlna one came. Nearly all
dnp from three to four note he a.
"Kellotca. l-pound center, la tha
moat variable man on our squad." stat
ed Trainer Warner, of the Or con
eleven, who weifha tha men before and
atter every practlca and rame. "Kel-l"-a;
alouKhed off 11 pounda in tha
Washington affray. A man .with a
nervous temperament loses weight
faster then tha mora placidly dlspoel
tioned. Halley. our 121 - pound right
tickle. aelJom abba mora than three) or
four pounds."
Jamea Johns, manager of tha Oregon
football team and a quarter-mile run
r.rr of renown, lost seven pounds la
lose than five mlnutea during a tr-
meet a aeaaon back. A dash and
a quarter in the relay did tha work.
"Jamison, former Oregoa and. lost
seven or eight ponnda In every big
game In which he participated." added
Trainer Hayward. "And It took Jaml
en three or four days to get back to
tha normal. Most of tha boys, though,
are r'.pa for more ecrlmmaga within 14
hours."
see
Tllg Eight" conference rulings will
prevent the University of Minnesota
fotbell eleven from making tha trip
to tha I'aciac Northweat during tha
Chrlstmaa holidays to meat tha Seattle
and Multnomah Athletlo Cluba Dow
Walker, manaa-er of the Multnomah
Club, reoelved word from Manager
l,each yeaterday. but la eUll dickering
with Michigan.
"At any rate a aeriea of two games,
between tha Multnomah and Seattle
elevens la practically assured," declared
Mr. Walker. "The plan la to have
Multnomah go to brattle for tha
Chrlstmaa data and teatUe journey
here for New Tear'a. Tom McDonald,
who la managlnic tha northern aiuad.
wanta ua to take tha Chrlstmaa data
here and that la tha only bitch that can
possibly prevent tha aeriea."
McDonald algned up euch aterltng
etara aa Barleaka. the old Whitman
bark. Coyla and Murklrstone of tha
111 I'nlveralty of Washington back
Held, Max Eaklna and Tolly Orlmm.
former Washington star tAoklee. War
ren Orlmm, thla year's big Washing
ton end. Pchlldralller. the great Dart
mouth atar who coached the Oregon
Agrlee laat aeaaon, Victor Vlaca and
several others of Ilka caliber.
Multnomah'a next snme will prob
ably be playeU Saturday against the St.
Jamea aggregation. On Thankaalvlna;
cornea the annual frollo between the
Multnomah Club ard the University of
Oregon eleven. Tha Eugene boata are
out to atone for their drubbing at tha
banda of Washington and expect to de
feat the Wlnsed "M." although they
feat the winged M." although they
Clarke.
MIcMcan'e great football machine Is
rated by Fnstern crltlrs ae slightly su
perior to Minnesota's. Yet Cornell de
feated Michigan 1 t 0. CMcago won
from Cornell on S-'.iturdny to 0 and
Minnesota anioiher.-U Chicago SO to 0
November 4. I'ntn this house-that
Jack-bullt chain of reasoning, tha Van
couver soldiers still have a Hixhttng
chance fr the worlds title.
Then here's another freak of tha
fool-klllera: ' Washington University
and Washington State College both
won from Idaho IT to 0; Oregon Uni
versity then defeated Washington
State College ( to 0. but Washington
University turns ou her accusers and
walloya the tar out of Oregon 2 to t.
The orlv thins, that go according to
form nowadays are chorua girls.
see
Football games are aomatlmea won
by adroitness off the field. Coach Do
bla of Washington mid of one amus
ing Instance, alien In Portland with
Ms team on Saturday.
"Tha opposing team." rhapaodlsed tha
tall one. "possessed an extraordinarily
accurate drop kicker. He waa expected
to win tha game for his men so the
lur coach of the home eleven stacked
tha cards against him. Just prior to
trie whistle he toted the ball that waa
to be used, to his room, let the wind
out. Inserted a copious layer of sheet
lead between the bladder and tha
leather on one aide of tha oval, and
re'-ileted tie ball.
"Vraea La aXaramsnimnad. fiai
OREGON AOEICTJLTTiaAL COLLEGE STARS WHO WILL MEET WIL
LAMETTE UNIVERSITY WEDNESDAY. '
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kicker tried to boot It that afternoon
the ball took the moat curious angles
Imaginable, for. overbalanced by tha
lead. It ahot either to one aids or tha
other. Aa a reeujt tha quarterback dis
carded tha drop' kick signal after aav
era! vain attempts, and. In atory-book
fashion. Ma Mam lost the struggle."
HOXITOIAX NOW 13 IX "VEXD
A7fvrr-Vs1r-rna and Eacheleat U)K
la Second Game Plajod.
itmmdln ef O- Clab
pn.eymaa .". ?'
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Mershail-WeHs J f'?
archer-Wlriln. 1
Tseierday's reeulte Honerman 14. Areher
Wlrslaa S: Marshall-Wells 1. Eacbelee a.
Tha Honeyman playera took the lead
In the Portland Indoor Baseball League
yesterday by defeating tha Archer
Wlgglna team 14 to . while Ruperfa
Eechelea were beaten by Marshall
Wells by a elmllar score. Both games
were played In tha Armory.
Tha heavy stick work and tha bril
liant fielding of tha Honeyman playera
made victory easy for them. Pero
brook. McHale. Baker and Magea were
tha stars with the bat. while nearly
every man on the winning team
ahowed great form In tha field.
Nelson was tha only Archer-Wiggins
man to do anything out of tho ordi
nary. Hie batting waa one of the
bright featurea of tha game. Tha score:
R.n.K.1 R.H. E.
3oneyman 14 10 lA.-W. . . . .
Batteries Henderson and McHale:
Thompson and Hansen.
The heavy batting of MeKentle. Wll
llama. MangoVd and King for Marehall
Wella. proved too much for tha
Eschrlea. Williams and Mangold also
did aoma clever fielding. The acore:
R. H. K I R. H- E.
l IT I laohelee. . . 10 T
Batteries ilcKenxle and Otterstedt;
Backus and McConnalL
SOLDIERS WIX FROM CLUB
Irak FleJd Goal I Only Soor In
VancourrrColnmbua Game.
Prlneeton haa little "on" tha Van
couver Parracka football eleven In the
matter of freak Held goals, for Dudley
Clarke's huakles yeaterday won from
tha Columbus Club I to o when a placa
kick off Hoffman's too from tha 15
yard Una In tha opening quarter struck
one of tba goal posts, spun around In
tho air. bounded to tha croeebar and
finally toppled through between the
posts.
After thla tha clubmen braced and
ths teams fought nip and tuck onrtll
tha second half, when tho Columbus
lada had a slight advantage. Stretblg
went In at full In the fourth quarter
and Klumpp at right end. Btrelblg's
booting waa a prime feature.
The gams waa played on tha Colum
bus Club field. The Columbus Club will
meet tha fast Holladay eleven next
Sunday. Ths lineups:
Colembva Club. roettlei
Cook J.
K'.vere
ti i. ci
Soiaiere.
. . Hunter
, ... Patty
. .. Oreen
Bam holts
.. tathay
... I'SVIS
.... I'eull
... LewU
.... Pitts
Oreenwav
luter C......
CennoQ
imrfli&ffer
J ones . . .
r.'3i:i .
CTNetll ..
"berry ..
. .R O..
..R T..
..K B. .
...Q . ...
...I. H..
..R H.,
DcnildMS
..V B.
Hoffmen
. Ba'ree. Celllerate: nmrlre. Carl
iff r.,M IvAf. uu-son; hssd llnsemaa,
aisaa siiassaeajera, Caare! aaa JsiS.es.
flTE irORXTNO OREGOXTAN, MONDAY, yOTEmER 20, 1911-
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RIVALS WAIT CLASH
0. A.C. and Willamette to Play
Postponed Game.
METHODISTS FEEL BLUE
Coach SweeUand, of Balcm School,
Saya His Tnun Hag Xo Chanoo
of Winning: "Wedncexlay From
Heavier Aggrlo XHeron.
When the Oregon Agricultural Col
lege and Willamette University foot
ball elevens play off their poatponed
game next Wednesday afternoon at
Corvallla, no chloroform will be used
by ths Corvallla men. Coach Do Ian,
who attended the big gams here Sat
urday, laughingly guaranteed thla
atatement when a. friend queried him
about Doble'a charge before the 34-0
seance at Peattla a fortnight ago.
Seattle writers at the time charged
that chloroform was used on Quarter
back Remolds, Captain Mays and oth
ers for the evident purpose of rubbing
tha concoction Into their opponents'
ayes.
Ws did use chloroform, but not on
Reynolds," a Corvallla player told tho
writer a few dajjL ago. "One of oar
men was sick and It was on him that
tha dope waa used. In Beattle we were
playing on a strange field and had no
experience In a big game and tha da
feat did us a world of good."
Several plnyers of both tha elevens
that meet Wedneaday attended tha
Waahlnston-Oregon game. Carlson,
tho Corvallla center, accupled a box
seat. Captain Blackwell, Fullback Mo
lt a e. Halfback Cummlnga and othera
were In from Salem. Dr. O. J. Sweet
land, Jr, ths Willamette coach, was
also on ths sldellnea. attached to ths
Doble end of ths 10-yard 11ns sticks:
"Willamette has no hope of defeat
ing ths Oregon Agricultural team
Wedneaday," aald he. "But wa will
take onr licking Ilka men and prepare
for the Puget Sound Untreralty clash
on Thanksgiving."
Orcffon City S, Mclxrog-lilln Club 0.
OREOOX CITT, Or Nor. II. (Spe
cial.) For the first time in three years
the Oregon City football team today
defeated the MrLmughlln Club team of
Portland at Canemah Park, I to 0.
Ixngs field goal In tha second period
won tha game for Oregon City. Oregon
City has played four gamea thla aea
aon and has not been scored npon by
lta opponents.
The Dalle Double Victor.
THE DALLKS. Or.. Nov. 19. (Spe
rlaL) The Dalles High School football
team returned today from the Interior.
It defeated Prlnevllle High Friday. 10
to 0. and won from Bend High yester
day by ths aaera ml t s.
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CHIPIOHSHIP III
EAST PUCEli'S
Tiger Eleven Proves Best of
"Big Four" Colleges-Yale
and Harvard to Meet.
ARMY AND NAVY TO CLASH
cHtnatlon rn Middle West Is Compli
cated Ontooms of Chicago-Wisconsin
Oama Saturday Is Sow
KiLgrxly Awaited try Pans.
Prtnoeton has won tha football cham
pionship of tha "Big Four" In the East.
Army and Navy elevens, both un
beaten, remain to olaah for supremacy
at Philadelphia Saturday. Harvard
and Tale, though still among tho top
notohers, must settle their ancient ri
valry thla week, each with the sting
of two defeats.
Pennsylvania, four times beaten, has
lost much support ae a favorite In Its
annual clash with Cornell.
Dartmouth bas ended Its season, de
feated by Princeton and Harvard, In
uoh close oontesta that It may easily
lay claim to a plaoo among the leaders,
Pennsylvania State, still unbeaten,
looms formidably for Its last game
with Pittsburg and for recognition by
those who seek to define tha Eastern
championship.
Indiana Ave Stroxusw
Tho Carlisle Indians, too, remain a
strong eleven and favorites for the
two more games on their schedule.
Brown and Johns Hopkins, notwith
standing their progress was marred by
defeat by Byraouee.
The lntersectlonal championship IS
an undetermined honor, as tho defeat
of the Michigan team by Cornell In tire
Eaat wea evened up when two Eastern
teams fell victims to Western football
Saturday Pennsylvania at Ann Arbor
and Cornell at Chicago.
In the "big eight" circle of the Mid
dle West, the situation la complicated
by the tie game between Minnesota
and Wlsoonsln. leaving these teams
tied for first honors as tho games now
stand.
Wisconsin Ply Ctueasra,
Wisconsin meets Chicago on tha lat
ters grounds Saturday and if Chicago
wlna It glvee Minnesota tho leadership
with a record of no-defeata and n"8
gams. This outoome would place Chi
cago reoond and Wlsoonsln third. If
Wlsoonsln defeats Chicago, the present
tie with Minnesota continues unset
tled. Illinois. Northwestern. Iowa, In
diana and Purdue stand In the ordor
named amonr the conference teams.
Princeton's victories carry with them
the one name most conspicuous In the
list of Individual stars so far, that of
Sam White, the winner of many a base,
ball game for the Tigers, but who, ac
cording to the Interesting report, had
to be practically forced to the gridiron,
for he. never liked football. He Is cred
ited with sensational plays which won
both from Harvard and Tale.
WASHINGTON' FAjriD JfATIOXAX
Dotole'e Remarkable Team Has Few
est Point Scored cm It.
Although Washington's enviable re
cord of having the only team of promi
nence in the big university circles that
was not scored on was shattered by
Oregon Saturday. Doble's squad still
maintains the lead In having had the
loweat number of polnta acored against
It. Washington's nearest competitor In
this regard la West Point. The Army
baa eight polnta rolled up agalnat It,
while the purple and gold eleven haa
kept the total down to three.
The summary of the performances of
the chief Eastern Northwestern col
leges for the season to date follows t
Northwestern,
rt. Wish. Osfnta. pt, W. B. O. Opifta.
irt. Warden II.JS 4ni Col 0
ST Poaet 64. UnL 0,lT ldeno bnt...... 0
IT Idaho 0 U. of O
ii nrotoi Aias..O 0 O. A. a.... ., e
2 Oregon ,H Whitman......
2o .e
Oregon. I O. A. C
84 Vsnoouver Bold"s.02 Paclflo U....
ia
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.84
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a Whitman CoL. . . B) S ash.
Waablnston
Sli. 13 fhemewa Ind..
4 4T
84
TJ of Idaho.
Whitman Collage.
O Washington ..
.it a u. of o I
B Whitman 0 TJ. or loano o
0 Wash. mate. ...1T O W. S. C. 11
IT Oonaaga
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S3 i
Mnltnomah A. C I Willamette TJ
IT Willamette U. ...01 O Multnomah Club IT
jj Vanooasar gold's 0 27 Ch.mawa Ind fl
SO TJ. aV fi. Phlla....0ll Vancouver Solda. 6
7m OtxS
pta Tale.
Opn'f-jpta Harvard. Ovp'nta.
21 weeieyan . .
i4 Holy Cross.
12 6rrecue ...
B3 Vlrslnla . ..
0 We.t Point.
S3 Colgate ....
..viio .nates v
. .0 8 Holy Cross...... 0
..O H Williams 0
..Oil Amherst 0
. .6 M Jtrown 0
..0 4 Princeton ...... 8
BS N. X- uiu.
(,15 Carlisle .........13
15 Jlrown ) o uarunoaxa e
Frmoetoa
98
18
83
lai
Prineeti
8T Ptevena
ST Kutsera
81 Vll.snova
Lehlsh .
81 Colsate .
68 Kesr6 Hamp..... 0
12 hhode Island... 0
..rt
...H 26 Mui Asclea.. 0
88 Ilosrdoln U
6 Pennsylvania .. 0
4 Harvard 30
80 Tufts .0
O Taie ..18
Vermont ...... 0
0 Navy W
SO Holy Cross 0
8 Harvard ...... 0
Dartmouth . ....0
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Tale J
r-arlllla
ITS
83
Dartmouth.
18 Norwich ......
22 Mass. Agglee..
23 Howdoln
12 Colby
Holy Cross. ...
S3 Wllllama .....
12 Vermont ......
fS Lebanon Valley O
B2 Muhlacburg ... v
IT lncklnn O
44 Mt. St. Marys.. B
9 OMriatowa ... o
11 pltuburg 0
JO Lafayette 0l
1A T.nn.vlvanla . 0
is Amnerst ..
1 Harvard J5
O Princeton .
8 Harvard ....
11 arraouae 13
6T
West Point.
IS TJ. of Vermont.
18 Butgara
Tale .
SO Lhlh .......
0 Georsetosrn ...
SO Bucknell
IS Colsata . .
18T 33
Annapolis.
27 Johns Hopkins. B
SI Ht. Johns 0
18 Wash, and Jeff. 0
0 Princeton ...... 0
0 W. Reserve..... 0
IT 1. Carolina
82 W. Vlrslnla.... 0
0 Pana Elate 0
118
. CornetL
11
Pennsyrvscua.
S GettysDurs . .
14 Frank.-Maa
Vrslnus
SS Dickinson
22 Vlllanova .. .
0 Brown .... .
8 Penn. State.
0 Carlisle ....,
38 Lafayette . .
Michigan ...
. 8
IS Alleshany ...
8 Colsata ......
15 Ob.rlln
O Penn. Btata. .
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. 0
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8 Wash, and Jeff.. 0
8 Pittsburg ....... 8
15 Williams 14
8 Mlehlsan ....... 0
0 Chicago ....... 8
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SOCCER, STAHS HAVE TTTFOUT
Work of Eammons Tllg FVature of
3Iatch on Columbus Field.
.l. -'!... .nnr., ta.m Alecte1 to
meet the Australian aggregation which
bow suriasT me spiuuiy, Aera w
December S. had its flrat trial yester
day morning on Columbua Field, win
ning from another picked eleven 6
goala to t. It was the first time the
men have played together and their
work waa necessarily aloppy.
Bammons played atar ball for the
second team and many spectators
thought he should have been on the
all-star team. The work of Qlfford
was alao a feature. The lineup:
All Stara ' Position. fieoond Team.
Duncan .. ..Q FabeJ
Mackle R B... Gldard
Puller L B Martin
Mansley K H Benham
Robertson ........C K . . . ...... Bammona
Matthew .....L H. Sleddon
Dick .....O R. ...... ...... Lloyd
Bllllnrtoa v I & Alblnson
Ptewart ........... 0. ........ . Ingles
Orav I L Drenen
Hlshett . O L Gray
Minor Football.
Archer-Wiggins League! Mohawks,
8; Alblna Juniors. 0 F. E. W, 8; White
Caps. 0.
Brooklyn Athletlo Club. 11; Columbia
Park, 0. VI t. the Brooklyn right half
back, was the star of the game, scor
ing all the points made. The Brooklyn
club haa an open date for November 25
and would like to arrange a game with
some team averaging 145 'pounda, Call
SeUwood 1180.
JACK WELCH TO REFEREE
San Franciscan Win Be Third Man
In Ring? Thanksgiving. Day.
LOS ANGELES, Nov. 19. The dead
lock over the Question of who shall
referee the sobeduled 20-round fight be
tween Ad Wolgast and Freddie Welsh
for the lightweight championship of
the world at Vernon Thanksgiving day,
has been broken by Welsh consenting
to have Jack Welch, of San Francisco,
aot aa referee.
Wolgast. Welsh, Tom Jones, Wol
gast's manager and Tom MoCarey,
promoter, held a meeting at which
Jones requested Welch aot as ref
eree. Welsh responded that an "un
desirable man was being forced upon
him." but rather than lose the chance
to fight for the championship be would
consent to Welch refereelng the oon-teat-
FMlllc Defeat Harraxu Croix
HAVANA, Nor. 1. The Philadelphia
National team defeated tho Almendares
8 to 1 today.
AMATEUR ATHLETICS
ALTHOUGH It was announoed some
time ago that Lincoln High School
was to turn out for soccer practloe.
It was put off because some of the
football playera could not attend both
practices. However, the first meeting
will be held today at which applicants
for positions on the soccer team will
be out Llnooln laat year made a hard
run for the oellar championship with
Portland Academy. Manager Goodwin
la pleased with the prospects for this
season.
Tuerok, RamsdeU and Oreer are
about the only men that will again
represent Llnooltf In tha English foot
ball game. Besides these, Goodwin and
Erlokson will train for forwards.
Johnson Is apparently the beat candi
date for goal keeper. Oreer and Rlsely
are after positions as fullbaoka, while
Olsen. Bronson and Grooe, all mem
bers of ths football team, will be the
strongest contenders for halves.
An attempt will be made to get
games with the Multnomah seoond
team. Osmes will also be scheduled
with Oregon City, Vanoouver and. Ains
worth grammar sohooL
see
To choose a eooeer team to jrrar tfl8
boys" team from Australia, a meeting
Is to be held at the Multnomah Club
at 8 o'clock today. The aocoer manag
ers of Lincoln, Jefferson. Washington,
Columbia and Portland Academy will
attend. The Australians will play
Portland December 6 at Multnomah
Field. They aleo have games with the
team representing tho Portland Soooer
Association.
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From the scores In their football
games It appears that Jefferson 1
somewhat weaker than Washington, aa
a whole. The three gamea with teams
which both have met have resulted in
the following soores: Lincoln waa tied
by Jefferson, while Washington was
defeated; Portland Academy waa
downed by Washington by an over
whelming score, while Jeferson hardly
defeated them; Washington beat Salem
High 18 to 0, while Jeferson got the
game by a score of only 1 to 0.
One of the reasons now advanced by
some of the Washington High followers
for the defeat by Lincoln Friday Is
that the team could not play on the
sawdust. Lincoln undoubtedly had the
better of the deal in that respect, as it
has been practicing on the shavings
ever alnce they were spread on the
field. The East 81 dors worked out on
the old Portland Field, which Is now
about as slippery as It could possibly
be. They had one practice on the offi
cial gridiron a day before the game,
but this was not enough to accustom
them to the tanglesome stuff.
t. i. .rnhihia that Jefferson will hold
a practice or two on the groundej be
fore Its game rnaay,
Itself In the same predicament that
DICK BREW, who was picked aa
the best second baseman In the
Northwestern League In 1910. when he
played with Vancouver, may be turned
over to Los Angeles. Word has come
. o. ...i. thAt Henry Berry Is
I rum owl i. - - ,
dickering for the second sacker and
has a good onanco u. B'm-a -
Breen was with the Beavers In 1909.
He went to Cincinnati after his star
work with the wanaai- "
farmed out to Jersey City by the Red
leg management.
"Bart" Bartholomew, who was one
of Oregon's leading spirits In the semi
professional baseball world, haa ar
rived In Manila by this time, a letter
from him from Hongkong having been
received here yesterday. "Barf was
leader of the 1911 GreBham Giants and
was prominently connected with Port
land teams for several years. He left
here early In October for the Philip
pines, where he wlU take charge of the
sporting goods department of a lead
ing Manila concern.
Washington. D. C, sporting writers
are already predicting the transferal
of "Kid" Elberfeld. the scrappy little
shortstop of the Senators. This fore
cast Is made because of the long-standing
feud between Elberfeld and Clark
Orifnth, the new manager of the Wash
ington team. The fight began when
both were members of the New Tork
American League club. It Is said that
Elberfeld will be either traded or sold
at the December meeting. Always con
sidered one of the best lnflelders In
either league. Elberfeld's playing has
been high class since he joined the
Washington. But the Washington club
officials take the stand that harmony
must be given first consideration.
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Otto Mclver, the outfielder purchased
by San Francisco from the St. Louis
Nationals, is a big fellow, weighing 180
pounda He throws with the left fln,
and bats from the rlfrht side of the
plate. He waa with the Cardinals all
last season as utility outfielder and
was sold to the Seals because he ex
pressed a desire to play on the Pa
dAo oaat. Ha comas from Dallas, Tex.
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TURF HEN
"Sport of Kings" Is Passing in
America, They Say.
BLUE LAWS ARE BLAMED
Wolgast and McFarlanfl Favorites
In Coming Bouts Multnomah
Matt and: Mat Men Not Il9
oouraged by Their Defeats.
In the past ew months there has
been a steady stream of announcements
of tho permanent retirement from turf
affairs of men whose names were
prominently linked with the racing
game when the sport was at Its height
In America. The "sport of kings" is
gradually sinamg to oblivion in this
country, and with it marks the passing
of Americans reputation of belns the
home of equine marvels.
"Repressive legislation," as the turf
men call It. has played havoo with the
horse-breeding Industry, and passing
events are significant enough to sug
gest that America, before long, will
cease to be known as "the home of the
thoroughbred." Blue - blooded sires,
racers and untried colts are being sent
out of the country In droves. Even
Kentucky, the famous "Blue Grass
State," whloh It was thought would be
the last to abandon hope in respect to a
restitution of racing, apparently has
accepted the seemingly inevitable and
la allowing Itself to bo rifled of Its
oholcest equine treasures.
Price No Bar to Ownership.
Existing conditions are In such
marked contrast to what obtained In
the old years that foreign buyers see
an opportunity by which they sold to
Americans before. Time was when
British and Australian turf devotees de
plored the manner. In which far-famed
sires of theirs were "grabbed" by
Americana It was a byword: "If there
is a price on anything, and an Ameri
can wants It, he will get It, Irrespec
tive of the price asked."
The proof of thla is seen In the pres
ence In this country, even now, of
Rockland and St. Blair, Imported sires,
each of which cost upwards of $100,000.
And there Is Ormonde, called by Eng
lish critics "the horse of the century."
Ormonde was purchased by W. Mac.
Donough, of Ban Francisco, for 1150,600.
But those days are past. Instead of
being buyers. American turf men have
turned eellers, and if some of the re-
,v.iw Vi I ci TM-1 rl nurchiueri of
former times are not finding their way
to the bargain counter oi tne auc
tioneer's establishment It is because
they are the property of rich men, or
rich corporations, who are not com
pelled to sacrifice them.
.
wit. viT-Tnttllv no betting has been
done locally on the coming Wolgast-
Welsh and Merariana-Murpnj usma,
odds probably will favor Wolgast
ia T and MnFarland I to L
The majority of Wolgast's fights have
ended Inside the ZQ-rounu nmii, ana it
Is figured that the vegeterlan English
man win nnt he s t rn n or enouirh to with
stand his torrlfio attack. Welsh Is con
ceded to be one of the cleverest men in
the game, and should he stave off the
. i v. i th, 9ft rounds ha will
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have a good chance of annexing tho de
cision.
Harlem Tommy Murphy Is given but
nVtanntk tf wlnnlnfiT f TO 7T1 Til C
Farland. The pride of the Chicago
stockyards Is shifty and carries a sleep-
Inducing potion in flUior mill. Miu
srs.y It Is figured be stands the best
chance of copping. The only uncer
tainty that bobs up In this mill Is the
...v v.Itt fa nnt tr In making 183
pounda It Is a moot question where
McFarland can make that weight and
be strong.
If the two favorites win in their re
spective clashes, and Wolgast is In
duced to sign articles for a New Tear's
bout with McFarland, fight fans will
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Neither Tommy Ryan nor Eddie
CConnell are discouraged by the de
feats administered to their boxing and
wrestling stars at Seattle Friday night.
Ryan is enthusiastic over Eyeman. who
walloped his oponent Into submission
handily, and declares that Carey,
despite his defeat, will prove a winner
In amateur bouts In a few months.
"Franske waa sick Just before he
went on the mat," said O'Connell on his
return from Seattle In explaining
Franske's defeat at the hands of Dun
can. "At that, he should have won.
and had It not been for his careless
ness he would have been returned the
winner. If the same weights are named
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Tommy Ryan haa nothing but praise
for his two proteges.
"Eyeman proved his punching prowess
and Carey his gameness," he said.
"Eyeman has a good chance against the
best amateurs In the country at his
weight. I think, and Carey, with a little
more experience, will prove a hummer.
Both are naturally clever and willing
to stand the gaff."
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January. By that time both Ryan and
O'Connell hope to have their men de
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