TIIE MORN'IXO OREGOXIAN, TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26. 1911. F(;e (Dmnmimt rOBTLAXD. OBECOX. Eatarad M Par-Han. OnfO. Featonie aa Seoafl-C;aaa atattar. ubacruiiiaa ftatra Invariably la Advaae. CBT MAIX.I P'"T. tandar laeludad. nt yaar. .....-- Pal. tuatjaa laciudad. a. x maaiba JJ u r. t-iadar taciudd. iliraa montha... Lai.v aiihadi a,.Ma - . - 0 lai.. wtthaut Rxndir. til maotha..... J uai.. witl.aut IjndtT. tnraa mnaina... wltnnut Sunday. ta nula ?? WaakiT. aaa ar 1 - auadmv. ana Jaa,r 3 aaLa aa4 Waaklr. aoa aaj- CBT CaJUUEH.) Palta. Stjadav laeiudad. ana vaar-.... ia:.a. Sunday taeludad. ana month. ... -' Haw ta K j ill Sand p-oatomra aaaaiar ardar. aapraaa ard.r ar paraonaj cbaefe on amr laaat aan Stamp, cola or aurraflcr r at (ha aaaSar-a riak. Glaa poatairire adsraaa la rail, melodist ceunir and state. faatacv Bafaa lo ta Id r. t eat: 19 ta i pacaa. 2 casta; so ta do paaaa. S casta; ta to aacaa. 4 caata. raiaiss aaataf e,jua.a lata. aVaatrra Haataaaa Ollrn Varra A Cenk Ba Xmw Torn. Hninaanca aul'dln. Cah aaso. r iH aul.dias- Iwapua otrtae -Na. t Basaat etraat. a. W LafiUOL f-OBTXAXD. TTKSDAT, (EfT. IS. 111. A COMTLIX PBOBLEX. If social conditions were such that early tnarrlacea were the rule Instead f the exception among prudent peo ple of small means. If every man had a wife and family and a home of his own. secure from the vicissitudes of fortune, and If withal the Inborn way wardness of mankind had been elim inated and no person, male or female, received lass than a comfortable live lihood for his dally work, then we mlrnt agree with the Keverend Mr. Talbot that the problem of the social evil was la a fair way to be solved, t'ntll some or all of these happy con ditions have been achieved we shall probably be more or le worried by it. When the social conscience is slug- r'.sh it will not trouble us a great deal, r.o matter how many young girls may be lured to ruin and bos poisoned in the slums. When the social conscience Is active, as tt happens to be Just now. me shall .see efforts renewed to root out the everlasting evil. All the methods of dealing with It which are proposed by our ministers and vice commission have been tried and tried train with only moderate success. Th Ten Commandments, for exam, pie. which are recommended by some ss a sovereign remedy for the social disease, have been taught with more or lera assiduity for three or four thousand years. The effect has, of course, baen something. V may say confidently that conditions are not so abominable as they would have been had the Commandments not been taught to the young, but atlll since modern civilization began to take the direction of industrialism and great tolling cities grew up over the world, the social question has become more .acute every year. Nor nas education been entirely overlooked as a remedy. There have always been plenty of men In the world who thoroughly under stand the consequences of laxity In j this particular, but some of these men are far laxer than their Ignorant fel low citizens. It la not the man who knows most about the consequences of I ho 1. alwaya the least vicious. e believe that both education ! vice Rill and the Ten Commandments must have a place In any successful cam paign against this cancer of civilisa tion. The causes of social vice are as numerous as th varieties of human depravity and greed. In dealing with It we must not forget one fundamental fact of biology which Emerson signal ized so well when he said that "Nature In order to make sure of the perpe tuity of life had overweighted the pas sion which draws the sexea toward one another." The pasion has been over weighted by evolutionary tendencies running back to the beginning of time. It can be directed Into whole tome channels, but It cannot be sup pressed. This ought to be taken as a basic fact. The evil of the slums, like many others, arises from misdirected passions which, were they properly utilized, would be wholly beneficent. The Reverend Mr. Talbot speaks Judi cially In calling attention to the eco nomic difficulties which ar wrapped up la the problem of vice. For one thing. Industrialism haa collected great groups of unmarried men and women In almost every large city. Their numbers are far greater In pro portion to th whole population than they were In any former pertcM of hlmtory. Students of Immigration tell us of th great troops of Italians who come to this country without families. Jt Is the tame with other South Euro pean Immigrants. Again note must be taken of the growth of our so-called "leisure class," social class with far more money than is for Its good and little sense of i-bligxtlon ta God or country. It lives only to gratify Its sensual passions. The male artisan and the sensual mil lionaire hav created a demand which premized agencies have been created to supply. It Is the enormous devel opment of vicious demand which has lad to the formation of a sort of "vice trust" In recent years so that the butt ress of "white slaving" Is now carried on In a strictly commercial wy. Nat urally men who want to make money and care little how they do It have been quick to seize upon this manner tf securing Incomes. It Is notable that the most persistent tempters of young girls are men ho cynically plan ft make money by selling them. a see. therefore, how naturally th organised whit alav traffic haa grown out of Industrial conditions. On th on side we have vast collection of vigorous men who do not earn enough ta make It safe for them to marry or who have left their famille In the old country. On the other w have a numerous class of wealthy men with nothing to do but to prey upon female vtrtue. It follow as a matter of course that there Is a quirt effort going on all over the country to sup ply the vlclot. demand thus created. The Ignorance In which the American girl grows up plavs Into the hands of those who seek to entrap her. The poor things are kept In sedulous Ig norance of th consequences of yield ing. Hence they often yield under a temptation from which a little knowl. tige would have kept them. safe. In sufficient wages, as Mr. Talbot well say, alto help out th whit slaver In his Infernal business. Th girl who Is starving on four or flv dollars a week has to listen to persistent stones of th luxuries th might enjoy wer th to yield to th tempter. That so many of them refute and prefer vlr tuout misery to vicious luxury Is a credit to womankind, but far too many yield". And w fear they will continue to yield. Th most disastrous blunder on can make In dealing- with th problem of vice U to fancy that tt Is easy or simple. It Is as complex as Industrial society and as difficult as for a camel to go through the eye of & needle. Education will help, religion will help, but no final solution will be reached until some way Is discovered of settling- our population In homes of their own wHh families gathered about them. The social disease la Intimately connected with thoso economic dis- rMe of which our statesmen have i fO much to y. THE JOKE ABOCT ECONOMY. The Mayor's official organ is ex cited. That Is the chronic condition of the Mayor's official organ, which excites Itself every day about some thing or other. The other day It was the rottsn Manley crematory, which Mayor Simon had arranged to build; today It la the lying defamers of the beautiful, stately, efficient, admirable, odorless Manley crematory which Mayor Rushlight is arranging to ac cept. Now It is over the forthcoming city tax levy, which some one haa ventured to say will have to be high unprecedented high if the Mayor shall approve the demands of the de partments, which aggregate, or will aggregate, about IJ. 000. 000. , The some on Is The Oregonlan. which haa been stating facts as usual If we are to have a Urge number of new policemen, new fire equipment ami more firemen, more parks ana Dlavrrounds. more bridges, a new auditorium, more streets and more street-cleaning, more water reservoirs and pipe lines, and more Jobs for th Mayor's friends and for the "every- bodies, anybodies and nobodies wh would be friends of the Mayor, the taxpayer must foot the bill. There was a decided "If" in Th Oregonlan's I J, 000.000 estimate, but there Is no "If In the demands of the departments, or the Job-holders, needed and superfluous, whose num bers never decrease. If the Mayor prunes the estimates. If he insists on economy and if he exhibits backbon and stands out against the clamor for more and more, th budget for 191 will aggregat less than S3. 000. 000 But we have so far heard from th Mayor no suggestion or Intimation that th brakes must be applied and th taxpayer's burden lightened. Nor has anyone heard such a gratifying suggestion or Intimation. Economy Is not and never has been the watch word of this administration. BLACK CONSERVATION Th Bolsl Statesman printed on its first page, at the time of Secretary Fisher's recent visit, a map of Idaho with the various forest, coal, water power and phosphlate withdrawals Indicated In black. We suppose black was selected as the conservation color because It best suited the requ I re- ments of th equipment; but happily chosen, mood of Idaho Statesman's printing It was nevertheless Black 'describes the and th results of bureaucratic persecution in the name of conservation. Th conservation map of Idaho la a thing of shreds and ! patches. It looks like a tombstone smeared with soot and whitewash. "Immense areas," says th States man, "have been withdrawn as coal Und ,,ht leaT not enough coal to run kitchen range three weeks. The withdrawals for power purposes are quit aa ridiculous. "All the Govern ment has succeeded In doing." re marks the Statesman. "Is to fasten a monopoly upon the people at once and yet the boasted object of the power withdrawals was to save the people from monopoly! Idaho Is two-thirds conserved. One third, or less, of its area Is free from the stagnating influence of a false Federal conservation. The pretense of the Government that there Is no Inter ference with the homesteader on forest or other reserves does not help the situation. Instead of aiding the homesteader to get lands for home- making, the Government Interferes with him, harasses him, starves him. and finally eject him. Instead of giving him a helping hand, it regards him as a thief and an interloper. He la a bold citizen who builds a home in a forest reserve. Idaho has been conserved almost to Its undoing. Has the present generation any duty to starve and die for the exclusive benefit of unknown and unappreclative generations? Or should the present generation live, work, and strive to establish homes, found industries, and build cities and states for themselves, their children and their children's children? How can any conservation better serve prosperity? FOB ATRISTH, NOT I F XI COG RATH EM, TO HMIllt The United States Supreme Court is expected soon to give a definite and final answer to the question as to whether the Initiative and referendum measures that have obtained statu tory standing in a number of Western states Oregon leading are or ar not constitutional. Mr. Kosslter John son, editor, author and lexicographer, boldly asserts that they are unconsti tutional. His contention Is that di rect legislation Is Impossible In this country, citing in evdence th Stan dard dctinnary, of which he was one of the editors. The Standard defines a republic as 'a stat In which th sovereignty resides In th people, and the administration Is lodged in officers elected by and representing the peo ple." Supplemental to this h cite th constitutional guarantee to every state In the t'nlon of a republican form of government Since, according to Mr. Johnson, w ir.ut go to the dictionary to learn what a republican form of govern ment is. we are Impelled to ask. "What dictionary?" Consulting Web ster we find that "a republic Is a state In which the sovereign power resides In the whole body of the peo ple and Is exercised by representatives elected by them." Passing on to th Century dictionary In search of th truth as tt Is in verbal definition w learn that In a republic it la only th executive power which la vested In a person or persons chosen, directly or indirectly, by the body of citizens en titled to vote. Thus entangled In the meshes of verbal definition, we ar fain to seek reassurance in the fact that men who compile dictionaries are not necessar ily great statesmen. Indeed, until Mr. Johnson, no lexicographer has es sayed the role of statesmanship, and even he. not being a member of the Supreme Court, has not a deciding voice upon the question of the consti tutionality of this or any ether law. in the meantime the er.tlr country will await with Interest the decision in th cas now pending before the Su preme Court between the Stat of Ore gon and the Pacific Telegraph and Tel ephone Company, belnr a challenge by the latter of a law enacted by th Oregon legislature under th Initiative by which a tax of 3 per cent was levied upon the gross earning of tele phone and telegraph companies. Far reaching In Its effec, this decision 1 awaited with more than common in terest. Stripped of legal verbiage. It Is the arraignment of the "Oregon System" befor th court of last re sort. The public is advised, through th Washington correspondent of The Oregonlan, that this cas is near the head of the docket and hence a deci sion upon it may be reached before the end of the term. Lawyers not lexicographer will argue It, and em inent Jurists will decide whether the "Oregon System" represents upstart legislation or 1 within constitutional law. PROBLEM OP TWE MAINE. In raising th battleship Main from th slim of Havana harbor. United State engineers have verified th belief that was prevalent at th Mm th vessel- went down In th darkness of a (February night In II SJ. It was then loudly asserted that th explosion that sent th Main to the bottom of th harbor was from without, th strong Inference being that a mine laid by Spaniard was the cause of the terrible disaster. The twisted mass of steel and iron that has been so long submerged has, after months of effort and applied en gineering skill, bean raised and cleared of mud, disclosing a ghastly upward rent that could not . possibly hav been mad by an explosion from within. Captain Slgsbee of th Ill-fated ves sel gave this opinion at the time, but without Investigation It could not b corroborated. Belief in Spanish treachery', however, was strong, an not until Spain's fleet was destroyed and that country, defeated at every turn, was forced to abandon Cuba, did American fury against that coun try abate and "Remember the Maine ceased to be a National war cry. Time, the great healer, has softened the animosities of that period i the verification of th belief that th Main was destroyed .through Spanish agency create little comment an causes no return of National, or even personal, bitterness. An event of long ago, it has simply passed Into history, rorB NEW ELDERS. There la mora work for a minister of the gospel In our day than there ever was before, but In large part It goes undone. Th harvest Is plente ous, but th laborers are few. Hence, we read with a good deal of pleasure such Items as that which records the ordination of four new elders in the Methodist Church at Salem last Sun day. One of these men may be gifted with the power to set the world on Are and show us how to meet our modern difficulties with the old faith That would be worth while. Most ministers who have any par ticular ability turn their eyes toward the city Instead of the country. Since these new elder ar country-bred, we hope they will not make that mistake The true problems of our civilization lie in the rural districts. It la the country church which can do most to uplift American standards of life, and It Is the country church which usually goes begging for a competent min ister. This is tragic when we remember all that an ably conducted country church can do for the population around It. It can ba th leader in education, in amusements. In cam palgns for good roads and better schools. There is no department of life where It cannot help. The rural church has abdicated most of its duties. Lack of ability in the pulpit has been partly to blame, but sterile Puritanism has also much to answer for. The country church has been so deeply afraid of violating th pro prieties that It has withdrawn from almost every fruitful activity. In it seal to discourage dancing It has en couraged dullness and disgust. In Its anxiety to keep the meeting house sacred" It has driven the young toward the saloon and dive. Perhaps th four new elders who have been ordained by the Methodists will take a wiser view of these mat ters and apply th divine art of con quering human nature by yielding to it. St. Paul won his victories by being all things to all men. The country church haa failed by allowing itself to become next to nothing. ITALY'S THREAT OF WAS. Italy appears so determined to seize hare of what remains of Africa after the other European powers have helped themselves that she is ready to go to war with Turkey In order to secure Tripoli. This province is nearly opposite Italy, on the North African coast, and when France elzed Tunis Italy was quieted by the concession that Tripoli would be in Italy's sphere of Influence. That means that France would leave Italy free to take it away from Turkey if she could. Italy Is worse off for colonies than any other of the larger European countries. The Italian colonies ar Eritrea, on th west coast of the Red Sea, and a plec of Somallland. farther south on the east coast of Africa, and they are of small value. It may not prov so easy for Italy to take Tripoli as It was for England to take Egypt and the combined European powers to lop off Servla, Bosnia, Herzegovina, Roumanla, Bulgaria and parts of Thessaly and Eplrus from th Turkish dominions. Th Young Turks, who now rule the Empire, are not disposed "to give up ny more territory without a fight. But th odds ar against th Turks. Th Itf liana hav only to cross th narrow Adriatic Sea to carry th war Into Turkey In Europe and Queen Helena's father, the King of Monte negro, would willingly be "compelled" to allow Italian troops to land at his fort of Duleigno. There they would find valuable allies In the rebellious Albanians. Such an Invasion would occupy the Turks to such an extent hat they could not send a large army to Tripoli, th coast of which Italy could occupy with a greatly superior navy. But the mere threat of an In vasion of Turkey proper would arouse h fears of th other powers that the much dreaded "Eastern question" ould be re-opened in Its entirety. They would probably bring the twp nations to a compromise whereby taly would get some concessions in Tripoli and let Turkey in Europe alone. If Italy should obtain Tripoli, the occupation of the entire coast of Africa by the Christian powers of urope would be complete, assuming hat Franca finally take Morocco. On th west Italy would hav Tunis, be- yond which are th French provinces of Algeria and Morocco, and on th east she would have Egypt, ruled by Britain. Tripoli extends for 1000 miles along the Mediterranean coast and. including; its hinterland, Fezzan, reaches 100 mile inland. Scattered over Its 400.000 square miles are 1. 000. 000 to 1. 600. 000 Berbers, with an admixture of Jews and negroes. The productive area Is nearly all along th coast plain, th interior being desert with widely scattered oases, which are connected by caravan routes. The caravans carry Ivory, gold and feathers. Barca, the eastern section of Tripoli, is mountainous an more productive. Tripoli, the capital, which has 30,000 people, is on the site of one of three cities founded by th Phoenicians, and near there an Ameri can party of scientists recently dis covered some Interesting Phoenician or Roman remains. The Governors' conference was marked by a revival of the state rights doctrine by Republicans and Demo crats alike in relation to the power of states to regulate lntra-state rates. This doctrine has been generally re garded as Democratic because of It association with the cause of slavery and of the Republican antagonism to it which followed. The fact is that since the war endd state rights have been championed by Republican an Democratic, Northern and Southern states, as suited their convenience in some particular case. Whenever stat law Is annulled toy a Federal court, as by Judge Sanborn In MInne sota, th cry goes up that state rights are Invaded. Whenever a state Is con. fronted by a perilous situation with which it cannot cope, as was Loulsl ana by the yellow fever epidemic, It forgets Its sacred rrghtx and calls on Uncle Sam for help, ready to sur render its rights In order to get it, Therefore, the state rights cry should not be taken too seriously. Boss Murphy finds that this is an evil world where a premium is put upon political Irregularity. The elec tion law by which he planned to make the services of a certified accountant necessary In order to enable an inde pendent to vote as he wished Is an nulled by a ruthless fusion Judge, and the woods may be full of Independent tickets this Fall, designed by cunning Republicans to lure good Democrats away from the true faith. One of the drawbacks of being a boss is that everybody is busy thinking up schemes to depose him. He Is no bet ter off than a king; in fact, ha won off, for he Is not possessed of "that divinity that doth hedge about a king." At least, nobody ever no ticed any divinity about Murphy. A man who knows no better than to sit down on a pumpkin pie de serves to spoil his trousers. Of course one does not expect habitually to find pies In th pews at church, but still they may be there and young men ought to be on their guard. ' The fragrant emanations from any pie are sufficient warning of Its proximity! but those from a pumpkin pie are so de lectable, they are so piercingly lu clous, that we cannot understand how anybody could fall to smell them. The young man who sat down on the pie must have been walking In his sleep, and since It la a sin to sleep In church he was properly punished. Giving Puget Sound equal rates on grain from the Inland Empire may b held as a Joke In Its hearing on business at this port. -There Is today congestion In the Terminal yards, with hundreds of cars of wheat that can not be handled because the supply is in excess of all expectations. In t day or two the embargo will be lifted Meanwhile Puget Sound is welcome to the concession, for It affords relief to this greatest shipping port. Accidents follow one another so swiftly In the French navy as to sug gest something more human than mare chance as th cause of them. Perhaps the officers are more showy than competent. France never has shone very brilliantly at sea. On land her prowess Is unrivaled, but her navy lias usually been defeated when it ventured to fight. Very likely there Is a reason for this in the character of the French people. To be beautiful now-a-daya - a woman must look like a telephone pole, or be a little thinner even than that. What the fat ones will do with their obese accumulations while the craze for exiguity rages we cannot Imagine, but they will do something. In a few short weeks every woman will ba slim aa a rail, but fashion can not shake our opinion that every woman over forty ought to ba com fortably rotund. Th family of William N. Paul might hold a convention and put i Paullst ticket In the field when It set tles down. It will have IS votes when the youngest daughter reaches her majority, which is enough to swing many an election. Perhaps the Paul pool would be more effective .in get ting results for the family. In the face of death all real men are alike. The Frenchmen stood at their guns and fired a salute as the Llberte sank. That was bravery and th height of discipline, for how shall man die braver than In facing un known odds? Irascible sportsmen of the hair- trigger brand are reminded that any body can eat pheasants bred and raised In captivity, if he has the op portunity and the price. Now is accounted for the heavy re turn to Italy in the past month. Th lowly banana man will "knock th stuffing" out of the Turk, and may h do the Job quickly. Le Galllenne, like Upton Sinclair, haa free and easy Ideas of marriage, but the former's plan to make divorce s easy as marriage Is a little beyond th limit. High heels and hobblo skirts ar held responsible for many accidents to women, but many women would rather die than be out of style. Theorists are holding sway at Kan sas City this week to point to practical men the way to conservation. Theory never fattened hogs. - Th Italian soldier showed In Abyssinia his ability to fight, and he 111 repeat It If he has to invade Turkey. Pendleton haa another round-up on hand, different but highly meritorious. gleanings of the Day It Is estimated that the dissolution of the Standard OH Company Into Its separate atoms will causa It a loss of about 110,000,000 a year In profits, but mat would still leave them about 90. 000.000. China has now a total of about 8404 miles of railway in operation, or al most completed. Of the railway line In actual operation, 2433 miles are In Manchuria, and about two-thirds of these are Japanese or Russian. There Is In course of construction a total of about 1701 mllas, some of which will probably not be completed for several yeara There Is projected, with more or less definite plans of construction, surveyed or unsurveyed. authorised by the Chinese government or not,, a total of 13.434 miles. Construction ' during 1910 added rather less than 500 miles to the railways of the empire. Nor Is th prospect for 1911 much mora prom lslng, sloe almost no new enterprise hav been undertaken. While plans ror new railways In China ar num erous, actual development Is proceeding slowly, An American consular officer in the Levant reports that a good opportunity exists for tha int,inn a m .r . and as favorably received by furniture manufacturers and wood carvers as lt is In Italy. One local firm la ready to purchase one carload of lumber, similar to a sample which accompanied tbe re port, cut In several dimensions, and which can be obtained from the Bureau of Manufactures. Prices should be quoted c L t. certain city, and should the quotations prove satisfactory the order will be confirmed by telegraph. This small order Is placed with the view of testing the market prepara tory to a direct and steady Import of American lumber. The name of another firm which also desires to be put In tuuch with American xporters of lum ber Is given in the report. A large landowner In the Levant has requested an American consular officer to obtain for him some Oregon pine seeds. It is believed the soil and climate of the region It favorable to the growth of this tree. A bill strictly regulating emigra tion haa Just been submitted to the Greek Parliament. It recognizes three classes of emigration: First, the prac tice of kidnaping young children, who. after being maimed, are sent to Russia for the purpose of soliciting alms; second, the practice of cajoling young girls into Turkey and Egypt under pre text that they will be placed out to service and then selling them for Illi cit purposes; third, emigration proper. The bill provides rigorous measures for effectively putting a stop to the first two practices and places certain re strictions in the case of emigration proper. Thus males under the age of 21 have to deposit a guarantee to be forfeited In the event of their not re turning to fulfill their military obli gations. All emigrants have to con tribute to a fund established for the purpose of succoring destitute Greek Immigrants In foreign countries, or for other purposes, to be determined later. special service will be attached to the Hellenlo consulates in foreign coun tries and will be expected to look after the interests of Greek Immigrants. Greece sent about 48,000 emigrants to the United States In tbe year 1910. The Erie Railroad has begun to 'ap ply economy to the use of fuel and has appointed an official for the pur pose. On one division In 1910 he saved 130,020 as compared with 1909 and In the first three months of 1911 saved 8.60G - as compared with the same period of 1910. The only limit to the number of postofflces which are now being dally designated for the receipt of postal savings is tbe capacity of the clerical force of the Postal Savings Bureau to get out the necessary papers. And this is also the case with respect to the designation of postal savings de pository banks. Up to this time nearly 3000 offices have been designated, of which nearly 1800 are of tbe second class and ZOO of the first class. At the present rate, the entire list of offices of these two classes will be exhausted wlti4n the next week or two. The clerks are working overtime and tha Immense amount of detail Involved being handled with efficiency and expedition. No recent reports have been re ceived as to the exact amount of money that Is being taken In at these postofflces, but brief statements have reached the department from time to time showing conclusively that the de posits are large and rapidly increasing both in total amount and In the amount of Individual deposits Word has come from New Tork, Chicago, Boston and St Louis, the four first-class offices which were originally designated, to the effect that in less than 20 days after the offices were ready for busi ness, over $250,000 had been taken In. Bankers everywhere are rapidly send- ng In applications to be designated aa depositories, together with a verified copy of their last report to the Con troller of the Currency in the case of National banks and to state officials In the case of state banks and trust com panies. Over 314,000,000 In bonds have so far been accepted by the authorities as security for postal savings, and bonds are now coming in at an lncreas- Ina- rate- Fullv one-ha'lf of the entire I .. . ... . I amount or Bonds received nave Deea nth.r than National or state bonds. being confined largely to municipal and county bonds Including water and road Improvement lssuea The department will nqw take np third-class offices, of which there are (143 In the country, and these will be designated as rapidly as circumstances will permit This large list will prpb- bly not b exhausted for . I ably not d exnauaiea tor menu months, but when completed, attention will be given to the designation of fourth-class offices. There are many obstacles, however. In the way of naming a large number of this class. wing to tbe absence of banking facili ties In places where they ar located, but lt is probable that before long patrons of fourth-class offices will be given the privilege of depositing their avlngs in the nearest offices of the first three classes. The plan, however, I has not yet been worked out but lt I ,- pn.f..f...n... I s the purpose of the Postmaster-Gen eral ultimately to bring the system within the reach of every man, woman and child In the country, so far as lt la practicable to do so. can lnmh., i- ,,. .,,., , pretty well posted on samuei nui s thriiJ ' X . i d'"trlct: 18 of road methods a. advocated by him and the oplnior that American lumber may lt wlI, take veraI trlps by tno Gov. be as easily Introduced Into that region ernor to i-nnvlnnn thAtn thnt thnv want BLAME RESTS WITH GOVERNOR. - He Vetoed Good Roads Btlla, After Legislature Did Its Duty. ATHENA. Sept JI. (To the Editor.) If the state finds Itself at this time without needed laws whereby counties can build good roads, the people should place the blame where It belongs with Governor West and his Portland advisers. The last L-faiAtur nassed several I good roads laws well adapted to the needs of the state. These laws as passed safeguarded the people's right and put th matter in the hands of the County Courts and the people that foot the bills. The Governor evidently sees his mls- I take and is now trying to get the "peopl" to urg him to call a special session to pass such measures as he may Instruct them to pass. For my self, I am not In the habit of asking others to think .for me and refuse to be bound by any promises other than the promises made to my constituents. Should the Legislature meet, the first work should be to consider the Governor's vetoes. Should the good roads laws vetoed be passed over the Governor's veto, these laws are far better for the people than those pro posed by the so-called Governor's oom- mlttee. The press dispatches state the Gov ernor Is to tour Central and Southern Oreeron In company with Samuel Hill, of Washington state roads fame. The I to-called Grangers and the farming community of Eattern Oregon are any of lt The State of Washington was compelled to call a halt, so great was the protest from the Granges and taxpayers. Eastern Oregon is In favor of good roads and good roads legislation, but any laws passed must place the selec tion of the roads to be Improved and expenditure of the funds In the hands of the County Courts, subject to the approval of th people of the county. We have no objection to a state highway engineer (or commissioner), whose work shall be advisory to the county authorities where state aid is made. The question of amount of state aid la debatable. My personal views are that the counties should pay three fourths and the state one-fourth of the oost of permanent macadam roads. The only feasible way for the coun ties to construct any amount of per manent roads Is through the county bonding act. such as the Legislature passed at the last session, with a small annual tax for state aid purposes. Al inougn personally favoring some amendments, the laws as passed were good laws and safeguarded the tax payers' right. ' Should the Legislature pass any laws alone the line advocated Dy the ixovernor s committee, the refer endum will be called, I am quite sure. at I think I know tha feeling of the terming Interests of Eastern Oregon and also have heard expressions along these lines from the Grangers of the W illamette valley. By all means, let us have the Gov ernor call a special Besslon to act on his vetoes, as the state needs many of the laws he vetoed, evidently for In tended political effect. a A. BARRETT. Joint Senator from Umatilla. Union and Morrow Counties. A Pioneer See Astoria. SALEM, Or., Sept 24. (To the Ed Itor.) Please accept a. pioneer's man us ror The Oregonlan's good-hu mored criticism of the lady from In diana. She ought to have seen As toria before writing of it as you auote ner. as a pioneer I was many times west of its site before lt became of ficially Astoria by act of the United States postal authorities. It was Fort George from 1812 to July 1847. when I. M. Shiveley came overland from St Louis as Its postmaster and claimant It required time and Industry to find living evidence that ever knew it as Astoria; that lt was known as Astoria In the East was more owing to Wash ington Irving's writings, than to J. J. Astor s action. As a pioneer I visited Astoria twice during the late fair and esteem myself well paid for each trip, which as Journeys were both cheap and easy. On the whole I could but advise that what the men of today have done be added to the works of the last 60 years, by making one of the most beautiful sites in the world Into a Joy forever, and I hope a permanent fair ground. To see the fireworks on the river revived memories of reading de scriptions of Greek fire 1 fighting In Plutarch's lives 70 years ago. The Astor family has yet to earn the right to have Its name attached to this seaport of the grand Columbia; its present population has one and one half miles of sea wall awaiting capital and energies; the building of this is a Job well - becoming the present J. J. Astor; there is room to use every dol lar of his millions and at a sure profit There Is nothing more certain In fu ture returns than dredging and filling on the estuary of river of Oregon. J. MINTO. Some Tariff Questions. PORTLAND, Sept 24. (To the Edi tor.) Reciprocity has met defeat so great in Canada, that there is no mis take about popular opinion there. My friend Hennessy Murphy concedes it was the asinine speech of Champ Clark which did lt but he asks. What can you expect of a Mlssourlan, anyway? Perhaps the. loss oi tnis treaty may not be a great misfortune after alL There are timely questions right now. For example, will our new board of scientific tariff experts be controlled in their findings In some subtle manner by the same Interests which have hereto fore controlled our Congressional tariff tlnkerers? If not then will Congress ignore scientific findings and make tar iff schedules irrespective of them as lt always has done? In other words. when shall the people reany secure a tariff for the benefit of the entire peo- tla In all Its parts? Clvn coal aa a concrete example. What prevents right now the taking off of all tariff on coal so we can get it cheaxner while we wait for that vast supply now on the way from Alaska? Can The Oregonlan sneo any iigni whatAvr nn these thing's, which will be of comfort to those who have their ..... , 1.1 V, K tariff anfeAri. pocsiuu n - " : UleaT ROBERT C WRIGHT. When th Bishop Was Stamped. Watchword. BishoD Goodman was one day address ing- a Sunday school when he said. In a most expressive way: "And now, children, let me tell you a very sad fact In Africa there are 10,000,000 M.-. j-, (..rtlnrv wlthntit a sin. -- - ---- f. .XW. what should we au try ana i our money and do!" And the class, as one voice, repiiea In ecstatic union: "Go to Africa!- It' Matter- of Choice. PORTLAND, Or., Sept 24. (To the Editor.) Being a staunch admirer or Webster as a scholar and for authen ticity In abbreviations. I will respect fully ask that you enlighten me through the columns of your valuable paper, which is the correct Abbrevia- tion of Oregon: "Or." (as per W eb- ster). or "Ore., Are Dotn correct Being a newcomer here I notice that most all automobiles and motorcycles Invariably carry the "Ore." abbrevia tion. 8. C NOBLE. Vox Populi at Work By Deaa Collin. "What Is that sound that blows acrosi The broad politic highways?" Say statesmen, with their ears attentive bent, "Say, can it be Vox Popull Has awakened, and is calling me To enter in the race for President?" They hear the sound, lt waxeth strong, And Woodrow pricks his ears up. And Cummins murmurs, "Shall I not assent?" And sayeth Folk, "Is lt a Joke?" Or has Vox Popull awoke To call on me to run lor President?" And Clarke, who fain would gather all Of Canada to his bosom. Heareth the sound, and guesseth its In tent, And Harmon, blushin' carmine. Says, "I hear that voice a-charmln," And a-wooin" me to run for President" To Gaynor and to Sherman , In Vice-Presidential coma, Bloweth the voice, with evening's breezes blent And also Hearst heard from the first Vox Popull, as lt would burst. Blowing the call to run for President And e'en Lafolletta feels Its breath A-rlpplln' through his long looks, A call from all tha eountry's broad ex tent ; And maybe Bryan, where he's lylsf H.areth Vox Popull a-cryln' "Aw, make Just one more run, for Presi dent!" , It calleth loudly unto Taft, A long and lusty holler. By which the air from East to West la rent; And, who shall say? Perhaps lt may Blow round an Outlook desk soma day Its haunting call to run for President Ah wondrous many are the ears Vox Popull Is reachln'. While lt tinkers with the Presidential dice; But tell me true, who is there, who Hath heard Vox Popull say "You Axe Just th man we want to run for Vice!" Portland. Sent 25. Country Town Sayings by Ed Howe When a man haa a littlo pain, he goes around saying he feels as though someone Is sticking a knife Into his vitals. Nothing makes a man feel sillier than to shake hands with a woman who pulls her hand away quickly, as though she had encountered a snake. A couple of months after yo-i begin a law suit lt doesn't look so favorable. The other day I heard a hard-working married woman tell of the best time she ever had the three weeks she was in the hospital, when she had an operation performed. Nearly every man will strike at a moth, if one files around him as he sits at home; but only a thoroughly domes tic man takes a fly or two out with him through the screen door every time he leaves the house. When a man begins to tell his side of the story, and says: "Well, I'll tell you Just how tt was." he probably in tends to tell lt fairly, but, as the ac count proceeds, he Is pretty apt to wander away from the truth. There is always deception in polite ness; few people take politeness for what lt is worth. A man who Is looking for "genteel work," is not looking for work at all. If you are at all busy, . you can't argue everything with everybody. The only naturalness is found in pri vate life. Invite a modest citizen to read a "paper" before his society, and he will fill lt so full of big feeling that his friends will wonder what book ha copied lt from.' More Than One Ground of Opposition. VERBOORT, Or, Sept 22. (To the Editor.) Opposition to international arbitration by American citizens comes from many honest minds upon different grounds than that of Senatorial pre rogatives. Admitting the force of Benjamin Franklin's saying "that there never was a good war or a bad peace," all the same nations are like individuals, and a code of morals to be observed by an Individual, fundamentally, in most cases, are to be observed by a nation. Therefore, a nation seeking equity by and through international arbitra tion boards, should come Into equity with clean hands. High churenmen now approving In ternational arbitration on terms at this time publicly discussed, merely state viewpoints from American citizens in no wise related or connected with morals' or faith. In the opinion of the writer. To localize a question recently put by an eminent Chicagoan, suppose I went to confession to Father Hickey with stolen goods Btill In my pos session, think you I would receive ab solution before first returning the loot? PIERRE JOSEPH HEYVAERT. Tides In Pacific CENTRALIA, Wash., Sept 24. (To the Editor.) Is lt high tide on both sides of the Pacific Ocean at the same time, or is lt low tide on one snore. while high tide on the otnerT how accounted for? SUBSCRIBER. Generally speaking, lt may bo said. that when it is hish tide on the West ern side (not shore) of the Pacific, lt is high tide on the eastern side. This is caused by the existence of two tide waves moving on opposite sides of the earth. It Is inaccurate, however, to e v that when lt Is nign tiae on one shore line it Is high tide on the other. The shores of the continents do not conform to longitudinal lines, while the tide waves are huge, moving ridges. The hour of high tide varies along each coast For example, when i. i inw tide at Tillamook Head lt is approximately high tide at the Isth mus of Manama. Why Motor Cars Have Horns. London Chronicle. - The London police are trying to les sen the nuisance from motor noises at night. Has lt occurred, to anyone that, hod the motor car been an English in stead of a French Invention, night and day would have been still more hideous by the nerve-racking shrieks of thou sands of whistles instead of the dis cordant toots of t he motor horn? Whistles are used for starting trains In England, while horns are the sig nals used for trains at railway stationt In France. The use of the horn in con. nection with trains was no doubt th reason why lt was adapted to motor cars. . Woman and Her Maiden BTame. Washington (D. C Herald. "Women are a myBtery to me," de-. clared the divorce lawyer. "How now?" "That woman made me beg the Judge to let her have back her maiden name, and then only kept lt half an hour."