0 THE MOTIVING OREGOXIAN. FRIDAY", 3IAY 19. 1911. T "PLACE TOO BIG TO TWO FICTTTBES OF WOODEOW WILSON TAKEN IN POETLAND. iCnow. .edge oman DECUBE'-WILSON nciies o: pace New Jersey Governor Has One Answer to Question Always Asked Him. SITUATION NOT SINISTER All H ill" u t ' jp ' 3 :i "M ? j-pj ,?i !r "il "sP IP ;p 5 p -j :p? spi 1 aZ cc; c ema H "r : tWJ "O: ".St .1 t 0 ..C oua' (Wft mo AoistK: 5 OA Tut: : 5 it; ig; g tg li zii j wit .? oov .jr j ' j '"tr i J Control of Political MiK-hlnrrj bjr Corporations Only FMrncf of Fvolntlon Wrt, Ha More FVrdorn of Action. Oorernor Wilson, of w Jry. who arrived In Portland ycstrrday nd mill remain through totlajr. ha ron ac rustorned on on trip arrows the lnltd states to hearing one que lion uke4 and to returning- the srrn answer. "Ar you a rxn'l.date fr PreMdrnt of ta rni'f State?" In'the riup.ntt vrry Interviewer. In Mr city an-l pmall fn and tn !ll. and hamlrt. aka. 'Th. pAltton M t'- h.r i tf a candi date f.r. and too bltr to refuse." 1 th nwrr. tnvuriaMy. It in not many irorri f.ir a university rr3l!ent to bar learned bv ror The iuvMon iievrr varies. The answer !j always "My id-as of rif'rm. be said yester day. -r-j not negative, hut rather re e nVrui-ttve. The editorial In The Ore Eruan th mrntn rxrr.-.1 my lr h-ur thin I ran ny now. and you m quote what u said as being mr rei Mni.mrnu. ' if I bare otrvrt any different he lwn the kut and the Went. It ha n-M been In polltt.' urniimenu but in tm.eramenl. Thre Is n-re free dom ff aiion here In the Mt; you ar ? otir.ee r and there e&Ht a firt of brother ho. ! of ptonfrln.r. This in mmft tn a di-e to net out and mo- qui. kly in j.nMir matters ttat in nmr apparent ith you than with it." Mr. Wilson sai.i that he understood the "Orenon stem" ! mean a pvstm ths.t took to the prlmarv all of the elective offices, from lrestd-r down, and eliminated prt r ronver.t lr.. "In New Jersey we l; fTr somewhat w lr h yu." he said. ""We have nariy affiliation, still. Our voters .Vitre their preference fr l"nlte States Sen ator and the rand date for the Legis lature sIku a statement that they will vote for t he person re evirvi: t he I incest number of voim in the part v. 1 publicans vote f.r th-lr n n ram!) dtrs and Iftmicr4t.i for theirs. 'f course. I favor the 'reron method, withoui record to p.'.rty alT llattns' Krm the hour of h?s arrival at the Portland Motel Mr U il.on received a J steady scream of callers. Me re- f malned tn bis room, the suite n-vupied rv t alire Kooseveit on the occasion or his rer-r.t visit. H day. except for a tr'p to the Jr.onte of bis cotistn. Canti'ln A. M Vils.n. at M't street. h-r he took luncheon wit it Captain and Mrs W ilson and thrtr rinuchtrr. Klixa befh. He afterward visited friends of tiore-nor W .Non's if on Port land iilirhts. The auromoMle in which ha brsan the Journey was mired near Twentieth, street and he went the rest of the way bv streetcar. m his return to his rooms Mr. AVil s n .dM-ind an InvUanon to Idress t he reicon chapter of the American Mtninc oncress and received a leie iratlop from the Tmm rattc State On. t ral 'omniit tee. headed by Bert I Line. r an. I M. A M:iW. of lhanon. Samu I J. l;ich. I Vm'i'rUc Nat tonal cnmmlt teman from Idaho, Jdnel the confer ence later and with thrut all the vis itor fir an hour InformaJly discussed tiie kIk Ual sit war Ion. ilarvf y IV.-k-.tth. presfdent of the Portland Commerciul lu. greeted Mr. Wilson on bis arrival from the south ard Introduced ht associnfes, tn Sellinir. W. A. Montcomer. W. J. llof mann. Arthur 1. Kisk. B. O. tiouffer and M. A. Miller. The reception com mittee escorted Itltu in an automtbite to bis hotel, view inn- him with Interest all the while. They found him to he a man of medium stature and slicht frame, with the appearance and man ner of a student. Mr. W ilson has a soft voice. Thotich Mia "Wilson Is a Ylrctnt.n. be has no pecui artties trace able to aus SMiutUern ancestry. lie w ears ctases and has larse ees and the h th brow tiiat Kes with a pettr temperament. He sr"aks with dis tinct endeavor to be precise. cften be concludes with; "That ts not Just as clear as I wish to p;tc it. !.et us try tt another way. Itts crrctir.it if bis ! tsttors ts warm. Ms handshake hearty. Mia manner of dre is ne.it. H wear a watch chain that crosses bts Vest from pO' Wet to penrket. Me looks his auditors t r:u irht tn the eve, Thsre Is to be no change In the pn Itramme for today. The address at the Arm f will be doliv-r,.i at ".to in Stejil of o'clock. Th-rr will be a formal dinner tn his honor at the Uni versity flub at P. M .. preceded by an Infriual reception bea-tnr.ln at & J) V. M. There will be a luncheon in his honor at the Y. M A. by the "ore r on Advocates of Better overtiment." lie will leare at li P. M for ScatU. ,' I r . , x ySn.un ii 1 I !' "V. :& L:rf' ". n' : I, ' : - - . jM j : ' J'j' ' "R ,"',':!, KOK Hl! roKTKA,T- vari.tMy; atul those s-entiemen. If you please, objected to anUdy else drawing thrm up. They object to bavins an or dinm y i ttlzeti not ctnnect'd w ith h bis t:orToratl'n assume t sucsest a bill. "You have a lcKietuttve session of 40 days nd at the last session lntrotluced some T'( mastirrs. IIw can you adopt 7 measures In dns? And 1 supMs you count Sundays In your 40 da; s? Simplicity I Needed. W00DR0W WILSON SPEAKS '.fi"iued frt laet 1 other you hoe avi to contrast the ts on the one side with the facts n other. Now be for you ever In !!e,j y our Initiative and referendum, at dd yu dT Tou limlti-d your t wh. I e: suture to Havs in two years. "i hat d-e that mean? That means th-t yoi were StraM of It suj;tioua of tt didn't d.ire trust It wanted to mini tptx It. and ou rcrd It as dar.corvus. Jk 'I orr the I mt-M Platen y t u w :il ftnd .r'VAtur.s limited in ti eir j-irt.- ttt.-:on. You nre cJ-li;S the same t hi tiff ourseiw Vihv are u suspicious of tour l-ectsUtu:e Why ,on t yu trust them W e hae a Irfts'.atie session in New Jersev every year, and the l.eisla ture can s! t as lnc .ia it p leases and Fenrra:; d-es sit three mont every ear. and yet we hn t found that New Jersey has been turr.cd Uf:d da Vy our lsi.olature. "We haen t te-n stu;dctou of our 1-sls'ature t-ut f at U another story. Our I-es;.tture hs often done th nm that ha e bmi: cbt aut a condiUon of sjmost pessimistic ds-iir. But we didn't curtail It. AftT a i. we are nit Unn'-.t and are ab!e to ni'un;rr aU the d;f?i ru'tuj af the system. Why Suspicion. Qucrj. Wf.y are you suoficioua of Jour il.t ture? W'hv, trie aerje American itiaen suspets the 1 ititu-es and et he df n't know w ii. re the measures rlc.na;e. YYhere do the measure orie ' P-ate? I dare say eome of the T. tlr mm In this rotn know where some ( tiiem oriair.atr. "I kew where a Brest rnanv of the tn4urf of the New Jcrev Uca-tslature crljruiate.1 un'tl th last sessuon. They bae been drawa up in te offices f 1-rM.i tn rorprjtlun lawyers. That is fcvr tbey : Uuu u(. aioiuat iu- "The f:rt that In our constitution mnk'UK' In this country we have every where gone more and more Into detail Is undoubtedly an evidence f the fact that the people are not witling to leave the things about which they are most concerned to the discretion and action of the I-e-Kislature," continued Mr. Wilson. "our constitutions, therefore are overloaded wit It what may be called le vt!ntiYe d.tail; measures which have not hit: a to do w ith the areneral slruc ture and action of covernment, but which are made parts of a constitution In order that tl.ey may be free from uncertainty and char ire. Our constitu tions are always adopted by referen dum, and one of the methods by which all our states hae souirht to obtaiu the referendum has been by putting a much a possible t t legal regulation Into the constitutions themselves which mu.-t be submitted to popular vote. It wouM be a rent benefit both to our I-ewlslatiires themselves and to th whole of the pectple if our methods of leKt-tiation nurhl be simplified and made more' puhllc and open so that e e r v bod y tn t sz h t k n o at each s t a se of legislation just what was beins; done and who mas dolrts: It. "A a matter of fact. It U a very mn t ised and almost necessarily private IT'NTim. Wen one asks who drafts the measures whloh hre submitted by the hundreds to our lsislaiures the answer must be "everybody. The bills mtro-du.-ed are by no means confined to those which are draftej ry members of the houses. Thev are drawn up. mst of ti-m. in lawyers offices here.. there and erv where, for the purpose of arcom- l.!:-lTi ittf every sort of object aouaiit by in.'.t v iduata or bv group of Individuals or by orffantied puslne Interests of one Kind or another. Su-li t:lls are Intro durti by the members of the houses 'by reiueet' or else are taken over by them aa their own and Introduced without any Indtcatto that they come from outside quarter. VrUmey9 I haractcrlMk "When thy come to le considered It Is only a bill here and there that Is de bated In public upon the floor of either Mouse. Our le nation is. as a matter of fact, chiefly dn In committee room. "It Is easy to eoe that the chararter- lttc future of all this method of lee l-lation is privacy. I do not mean that the privacy la in all cases deliberate. It 4prlntss out of the system Itself, out if the multitude of btlls to be handled and the Inevitable haste In handling; tiiem. . But often this privacy Is made u?e of lu the i:iost idntMer fashion for 'private ends and undoubtedly consti tutes the main opportunity for those who wisu to work schemes of their own and Ret legal regulations which will ecrve tholr own purpose. The political machine when It rntrols lexlslatton. ran operate successfully only In pri vate. If legislation Is in fact accom plished !n committee. committees should he public and not prlvats Instru mentalities. "In the meantime we witness a very Int.-rcstinc thine the whole coon try. nee It cannot decipher th methods of Its IcKt'laUon. Is cUmorinrf for leader ship, and a new role, w htch to many persona reems little k-ss than unconsti tutional. I thrust upon our executives. Th people are Impatient of a President who will net formulate policy and In s?t upon :s adopt .on. They art Impa tient of a Governor who will not exer cise energetic lradorshlp. who will not make his aaneals directly to' ptrtrllc opinlcn and insist that Ihe dictates of pubiic oy.oioa be carried out la dcfi- , mte leKal reforms of his own sugges tion." "It Is considered something more than a breach of proprietv for the Kxecutlve to venture to 'dictate' to the lequdutive branch of the (governments and yet this scruple Is undoubtedly based upon an ijrnornnce of our actual constitutional provisions. Almost every- state consti tution not only Rive the Oovernor what the Federal Constitution gives the Pres ident the right to send messages to the legislature expressing his views upon puhllc matters In imy way he pleases, but also, like the Federal Constitution, gives him tlie right to recommend 'meas ures' without naming or restricting the form In which hi recommendation of measures shall be made. It seems per fectly clear that It is the explicit pre rogative of practically every American Kxecutlve to recommend measures. If he pleases. In the form of bills. It Is no presumption on his part therefore and no Invasion of the rights of any other branch of the Government. If ho press his views in any form that he pleases upon the lawmaking body. "Inasmuch as It is next to Impossible to determine who is running the Legis lature from the Inside, there is an in stinctive desire that there should bo some force directing and leading; it from the outside, same force which shall be obvious and therefore respon sible, open to tho view of everybody and aubject only to the restraints of public opinion. Public opinion must by hook or crook get into the business. If tt cannot get Into It through commit tee rooms it may possibly get Into It through executive leadership.' Sanplclon May Be Evaded. "If such changes go. to their natural length It Is reasonable to expect that Legislatures will be less distrusted The position of our fcUate, legislatures is In many Instances position that must be regarded as very mortifying. They are forbidden In many of our states to meet more than once In two years and are forbidden when they meet to sit for more than tf. or. It may be, 90 days. The whole Implication of auch restric tion Is that the people regard the ses sions of the legislature as a necessary evil, as something to be guarded as anything else dangerous and under sus picion would be restrained. No one who feels the full American pride "ln our Institutions csn fail to deplore these evidences of distrust.' "The defect of the whole method is that It does not lead to suf Helen tly thorough debate. There Is no one of equal authority and lnfiuonce with the executive to debate public matters of ficially with him; do single legislator occupies his place of advantage in get ting at public opinion. There Is no one in a situation of authority which en ables him to answer the Governor or the President as effectively as the Gov ernor or the President can himself speak by reason of his larger au thority. This is not a desirable state of affairs. The great thing to bo de sired Is debate, debate among author itative persons as well as debate upon the stump, and the more thorough-going, the more fearless this debate Is, the better. Public Ordeal Is T?t. -Moreover, It Is sttll further belittl ing to our legislatures that the discus sions led by our Executives should be held outside of th legislative cham bers. To do this la to make the tittle debate that occurs In the legislature a thing of little or no significance, and It is clearly d slrable. Indeed Impera tive, that In order that the authority of our legislative bodies should be re vived the most effective and thorough going debate should take place within their chambers. Undoubtedly the hope of the Immediate future Is that by slow ly getting rid of machine control and the control of secret Interests of other klnos lnsid our legislative chambers. they may thoroughly regain their self possession and their self-respect, and In regaining these may return to their one-time practice of debate and put everything tnat they do to the public ordeaL In that way lies the recovery of their prestige and 1 think there can be no doubt UMfct tii prcac&f procCMc at reform will presently bring about that much to be desired result, when the peonle will again depend, and depend w-ith confidence, upon their legisla tures and not lean as if for rescue upon their Executives." Those at the banquet were: r. - Ackcrman. k: B. Aldrleh.' Pendleton Ceneral Thomas A. Anderson H. B. Adams, It. Atkinson. (Jeorre Brady. Harvey Beck with. Mr. Barclay. Mr. Burton, C. H. Bauer. J. T. Barron. Sol Blumauer. Floyd Bilyeu, R. p. Bonham. Astoria; J. S. Be a Is. W. U Pule. nr. Berkely, Thomas Bilyeu. Fred Bell. V. T. Buchanan, Charles Cogster, afa Jur Cabell. V. S. A.. W. Cole. J. W. Col lins. K. l Carpenter. C. C. Colt. John F. Carroll. W. E. Coman, X. B. Crow, B. B. Chum hers. W. II. Cannon. Medford; R. D. Cannon. Dr. J. y. Casseday, C. A. Coolidp, C. J. Curtis. J. XV. Collins. E- Caswell. H. H Kasterlv. Dwiirht Edwards. YV. t. Fenton Clinton S Fletcher. J. W. Ferguson. F. L Fuller. I. N. F1eishner. W. H. Fayle. Leo Friede. W H. Fear. A. JT. Fox, A. Felden- helmer. C Felderthelmer. A. L. Fish, R. M Grav. Judge William Galloway. McMlnn vllte. John M. Geario. Judge W. N. Gatens, S. M. Garland. W. J. Hofmann. Bert E. Hunev. W. H Holmes. Palem: Oscar Hayter, Dallas "S. W. Herrmann, George W. Hol conib. S. K. Holcomb, Hugh Hume. V. Hoi man. C. M- Hill. George M. Hyland, Frank Irwin,' B. S. Josselyn. George W. Joseph, W. N. Kaiser. Salem. Samuel c. Kerr. W. R King. W. J. Lyons, L Allen lewis. Robert Lewis. William li. lewis, George Lawrence Jr. n o. Iavelv. P. Loweii k art, C S. Mul lens. Astoria, WV A. Montgomery, Richard W. Montague, Major Martin. T". S. A., Charles B. Merrick. H. W. MltchelL John Manning. M. G. Munly. E. J. Mautz, Julius I Meier. Dan J. Malarkey. M. A. Miller, l,-hanon. I. A. McNary. Robert A. Miller. Wailla Xash. Cllro Oyama, C. B. Pfahler, nunt Uk6 Goransson posse, John Pauer. B. lee Paget. Dr. E. A. Pierce, H. I- Pittock, K. B. Piier. Captain John T. Qulnan. Dr. Paul Rockey. Dr. A. E. Rockey. C. W. Rid drll. J- R. Rogers. Fred H. Rothchlld, R. W. Ttavmond. ramuel J. Rich, 8. C. Rogers. MeCreedle Hykes. Dr. Andrew C. Smith. John Sawyer. Astoria. R. Sinnott, Paul See lev Thomas N. Strong. Paul H. Stroat, M. SlcheJ, R. Sleight, C. Schuehel. Ben Selling, A. M Shannon. Alex week. Frank H. Siofkhrldue. F. D. Ptephanson. W. E. Hchimpf. Arthur P. TIfft, George M. Trow hrldjee. Mr. Thomas. W. S. C'Ren. Henry T. Van Duxer, Governor Oswald West. Colo nel C. K. S. Wood. James G. Wilson. F. S. West. Pr Calvin S. White, C. T. Whitney, Ir. Joseph li. Wilson. F. C. Whltten. A. M. Wilson, W. H. Wehmng, Samuel White, J, L. Yarnall, Dom J. Zan.- Yost Suggests Ticket. "t propose and hope that In the next Presidential campaign the honored guest of the evening will lead tne Democrats." said Governor West In re sponding to a toast, ""and If bo does, I want him to know that we have tim ber In this state that would make a good running; mate and that the ticket should read "Wilson and Chamber lain.' " Governor West spoke on the "Oregon system" and the critics who had asserted that the law was defec tive as well as destructive. "It is pointed out.' said he, "that hre In Portland only a small per cent turned out to vote and that the various can didates received only a small minority of the vote. I do not regard this as In any wise reflecting upon the law. It Is the. duty of citizens to vote and if th'ey do not then they must stand for the consequences. I want Governor Wilson to return to the Kast with the Impression that we out here think that the law Is a good one and that while it may not be perfect It -contains many things wlil(.h are essential to the progress of the country. "I notice that Now Jersey, New York. Ohio. Wisconsin and any number of states have Presidential timber, but they all must concede that they have to come to Oregon City for their Ideas. Under our constitution all pub lic officials are subject to the recall. This Is true of Judicial officers as well, and while the Governor New Jersey has expressed- views contrary to the laws of Oregon, I believe in the law of this stale and believe that it Is a good thing. I believe that a Judge should be revered Just as long as he keeps his robes clean but when proved to be crooked he should be treated as a criminal. 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