Morning Oregonian. (Portland, Or.) 1861-1937, May 19, 1911, Page 9, Image 9

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THE MOTIVING OREGOXIAN. FRIDAY", 3IAY 19. 1911. T
"PLACE TOO BIG TO
TWO FICTTTBES OF WOODEOW WILSON TAKEN IN POETLAND.
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DECUBE'-WILSON
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pace
New Jersey Governor Has One
Answer to Question Always
Asked Him.
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it; ig; g tg li zii j wit .? oov .jr j ' j '"tr i J
Control of Political MiK-hlnrrj bjr
Corporations Only FMrncf of
Fvolntlon Wrt, Ha More
FVrdorn of Action.
Oorernor Wilson, of w Jry. who
arrived In Portland ycstrrday nd mill
remain through totlajr. ha ron ac
rustorned on on trip arrows the lnltd
states to hearing one que lion uke4
and to returning- the srrn answer.
"Ar you a rxn'l.date fr PreMdrnt
of ta rni'f State?" In'the riup.ntt
vrry Interviewer. In Mr city an-l pmall
fn and tn !ll. and hamlrt. aka.
'Th. pAltton M t'- h.r i tf a candi
date f.r. and too bltr to refuse." 1 th
nwrr. tnvuriaMy. It in not many
irorri f.ir a university rr3l!ent to
bar learned bv ror The iuvMon
iievrr varies. The answer !j always
"My id-as of rif'rm. be said yester
day. -r-j not negative, hut rather re
e nVrui-ttve. The editorial In The Ore
Eruan th mrntn rxrr.-.1 my
lr h-ur thin I ran ny now. and
you m quote what u said as being
mr rei Mni.mrnu. '
if I bare otrvrt any different he
lwn the kut and the Went. It ha
n-M been In polltt.' urniimenu but in
tm.eramenl. Thre Is n-re free
dom ff aiion here In the Mt; you ar
? otir.ee r and there e&Ht a firt of
brother ho. ! of ptonfrln.r. This in
mmft tn a di-e to net out and
mo- qui. kly in j.nMir matters ttat in
nmr apparent ith you than with it."
Mr. Wilson sai.i that he understood
the "Orenon stem" ! mean a pvstm
ths.t took to the prlmarv all of the
elective offices, from lrestd-r down,
and eliminated prt r ronver.t lr..
"In New Jersey we l; fTr somewhat
w lr h yu." he said. ""We have nariy
affiliation, still. Our voters .Vitre
their preference fr l"nlte States Sen
ator and the rand date for the Legis
lature sIku a statement that they will
vote for t he person re evirvi: t he
I incest number of voim in the part v.
1 publicans vote f.r th-lr n n ram!)
dtrs and Iftmicr4t.i for theirs. 'f
course. I favor the 'reron method,
withoui record to p.'.rty alT llattns'
Krm the hour of h?s arrival at the
Portland Motel Mr U il.on received a J
steady scream of callers. Me re- f
malned tn bis room, the suite n-vupied
rv t alire Kooseveit on the occasion or
his rer-r.t visit. H day. except for a
tr'p to the Jr.onte of bis cotistn. Canti'ln
A. M Vils.n. at M't street. h-r
he took luncheon wit it Captain and
Mrs W ilson and thrtr rinuchtrr. Klixa
befh. He afterward visited friends of
tiore-nor W .Non's if on Port land
iilirhts. The auromoMle in which ha
brsan the Journey was mired near
Twentieth, street and he went the rest
of the way bv streetcar.
m his return to his rooms Mr. AVil
s n .dM-ind an InvUanon to Idress
t he reicon chapter of the American
Mtninc oncress and received a leie
iratlop from the Tmm rattc State On.
t ral 'omniit tee. headed by Bert I Line. r
an. I M. A M:iW. of lhanon. Samu I
J. l;ich. I Vm'i'rUc Nat tonal cnmmlt
teman from Idaho, Jdnel the confer
ence later and with thrut all the vis
itor fir an hour InformaJly discussed
tiie kIk Ual sit war Ion.
ilarvf y IV.-k-.tth. presfdent of the
Portland Commerciul lu. greeted Mr.
Wilson on bis arrival from the south
ard Introduced ht associnfes, tn
Sellinir. W. A. Montcomer. W. J. llof
mann. Arthur 1. Kisk. B. O. tiouffer
and M. A. Miller. The reception com
mittee escorted Itltu in an automtbite
to bis hotel, view inn- him with Interest
all the while. They found him to he
a man of medium stature and slicht
frame, with the appearance and man
ner of a student. Mr. W ilson has a
soft voice. Thotich Mia "Wilson Is a
Ylrctnt.n. be has no pecui artties trace
able to aus SMiutUern ancestry. lie
w ears ctases and has larse ees and
the h th brow tiiat Kes with a pettr
temperament. He sr"aks with dis
tinct endeavor to be precise. cften be
concludes with; "That ts not Just as
clear as I wish to p;tc it. !.et us try
tt another way. Itts crrctir.it if bis !
tsttors ts warm. Ms handshake
hearty. Mia manner of dre is ne.it.
H wear a watch chain that crosses
bts Vest from pO' Wet to penrket. Me
looks his auditors t r:u irht tn the eve,
Thsre Is to be no change In the pn
Itramme for today. The address at the
Arm f will be doliv-r,.i at ".to in
Stejil of o'clock. Th-rr will be a
formal dinner tn his honor at the Uni
versity flub at P. M .. preceded by an
Infriual reception bea-tnr.ln at & J)
V. M. There will be a luncheon in his
honor at the Y. M A. by the "ore
r on Advocates of Better overtiment."
lie will leare at li P. M for ScatU.
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I r . , x ySn.un ii 1 I
!' "V. :& L:rf' ". n' :
I, ' : - - . jM j
: ' J'j' ' "R ,"',':!, KOK Hl! roKTKA,T-
vari.tMy; atul those s-entiemen. If you
please, objected to anUdy else drawing
thrm up. They object to bavins an or
dinm y i ttlzeti not ctnnect'd w ith h bis
t:orToratl'n assume t sucsest a bill.
"You have a lcKietuttve session of 40
days nd at the last session lntrotluced
some T'( mastirrs. IIw can you adopt
7 measures In dns? And 1 supMs
you count Sundays In your 40 da; s?
Simplicity I Needed.
W00DR0W WILSON SPEAKS
'.fi"iued frt laet
1 other you hoe avi to contrast the
ts on the one side with the facts n
other. Now be for you ever In
!!e,j y our Initiative and referendum,
at dd yu dT Tou limlti-d your
t
wh.
I e: suture to Havs in two years.
"i hat d-e that mean? That means th-t
yoi were StraM of It suj;tioua of tt
didn't d.ire trust It wanted to mini
tptx It. and ou rcrd It as dar.corvus.
Jk 'I orr the I mt-M Platen y t u w :il
ftnd .r'VAtur.s limited in ti eir j-irt.-
ttt.-:on. You nre cJ-li;S the same t hi tiff
ourseiw Vihv are u suspicious of
tour l-ectsUtu:e Why ,on t yu trust
them W e hae a Irfts'.atie session in
New Jersev every year, and the l.eisla
ture can s! t as lnc .ia it p leases and
Fenrra:; d-es sit three mont every
ear. and yet we hn t found that
New Jersey has been turr.cd Uf:d da
Vy our lsi.olature.
"We haen t te-n stu;dctou of our
1-sls'ature t-ut f at U another story.
Our I-es;.tture hs often done th nm
that ha e bmi: cbt aut a condiUon of
sjmost pessimistic ds-iir. But we didn't
curtail It. AftT a i. we are nit Unn'-.t
and are ab!e to ni'un;rr aU the d;f?i
ru'tuj af the system.
Why Suspicion. Qucrj.
Wf.y are you suoficioua of Jour
il.t ture? W'hv, trie aerje American
itiaen suspets the 1 ititu-es and et
he df n't know w ii. re the measures
rlc.na;e. YYhere do the measure orie
' P-ate? I dare say eome of the T. tlr
mm In this rotn know where some (
tiiem oriair.atr.
"I kew where a Brest rnanv of the
tn4urf of the New Jcrev Uca-tslature
crljruiate.1 un'tl th last sessuon. They
bae been drawa up in te offices f
1-rM.i tn rorprjtlun lawyers. That is
fcvr tbey : Uuu u(. aioiuat iu-
"The f:rt that In our constitution
mnk'UK' In this country we have every
where gone more and more Into detail
Is undoubtedly an evidence f the fact
that the people are not witling to leave
the things about which they are most
concerned to the discretion and action
of the I-e-Kislature," continued Mr.
Wilson. "our constitutions, therefore
are overloaded wit It what may be called
le vt!ntiYe d.tail; measures which have
not hit: a to do w ith the areneral slruc
ture and action of covernment, but
which are made parts of a constitution
In order that tl.ey may be free from
uncertainty and char ire. Our constitu
tions are always adopted by referen
dum, and one of the methods by which
all our states hae souirht to obtaiu
the referendum has been by putting a
much a possible t t legal regulation
Into the constitutions themselves which
mu.-t be submitted to popular vote. It
wouM be a rent benefit both to our
I-ewlslatiires themselves and to th
whole of the pectple if our methods of
leKt-tiation nurhl be simplified and
made more' puhllc and open so that
e e r v bod y tn t sz h t k n o at each s t a se
of legislation just what was beins; done
and who mas dolrts: It.
"A a matter of fact. It U a very mn
t ised and almost necessarily private
IT'NTim. Wen one asks who drafts the
measures whloh hre submitted by the
hundreds to our lsislaiures the answer
must be "everybody. The bills mtro-du.-ed
are by no means confined to those
which are draftej ry members of the
houses. Thev are drawn up. mst of
ti-m. in lawyers offices here.. there and
erv where, for the purpose of arcom-
l.!:-lTi ittf every sort of object aouaiit by
in.'.t v iduata or bv group of Individuals
or by orffantied puslne Interests of one
Kind or another. Su-li t:lls are Intro
durti by the members of the houses 'by
reiueet' or else are taken over by them
aa their own and Introduced without any
Indtcatto that they come from outside
quarter.
VrUmey9 I haractcrlMk
"When thy come to le considered It
Is only a bill here and there that Is de
bated In public upon the floor of either
Mouse. Our le nation is. as a matter of
fact, chiefly dn In committee room.
"It Is easy to eoe that the chararter-
lttc future of all this method of lee
l-lation is privacy. I do not mean that
the privacy la in all cases deliberate.
It 4prlntss out of the system Itself, out
if the multitude of btlls to be handled
and the Inevitable haste In handling;
tiiem. . But often this privacy Is made
u?e of lu the i:iost idntMer fashion for
'private ends and undoubtedly consti
tutes the main opportunity for those
who wisu to work schemes of their own
and Ret legal regulations which will
ecrve tholr own purpose. The political
machine when It rntrols lexlslatton.
ran operate successfully only In pri
vate. If legislation Is in fact accom
plished !n committee. committees
should he public and not prlvats Instru
mentalities. "In the meantime we witness a very
Int.-rcstinc thine the whole coon try.
nee It cannot decipher th methods of
Its IcKt'laUon. Is cUmorinrf for leader
ship, and a new role, w htch to many
persona reems little k-ss than unconsti
tutional. I thrust upon our executives.
Th people are Impatient of a President
who will net formulate policy and In
s?t upon :s adopt .on. They art Impa
tient of a Governor who will not exer
cise energetic lradorshlp. who will not
make his aaneals directly to' ptrtrllc
opinlcn and insist that Ihe dictates of
pubiic oy.oioa be carried out la dcfi- ,
mte leKal reforms of his own sugges
tion." "It Is considered something more than
a breach of proprietv for the Kxecutlve
to venture to 'dictate' to the lequdutive
branch of the (governments and yet this
scruple Is undoubtedly based upon an
ijrnornnce of our actual constitutional
provisions. Almost every- state consti
tution not only Rive the Oovernor what
the Federal Constitution gives the Pres
ident the right to send messages to the
legislature expressing his views upon
puhllc matters In imy way he pleases,
but also, like the Federal Constitution,
gives him tlie right to recommend 'meas
ures' without naming or restricting the
form In which hi recommendation of
measures shall be made. It seems per
fectly clear that It is the explicit pre
rogative of practically every American
Kxecutlve to recommend measures. If he
pleases. In the form of bills. It Is no
presumption on his part therefore and
no Invasion of the rights of any other
branch of the Government. If ho press
his views in any form that he pleases
upon the lawmaking body.
"Inasmuch as It is next to Impossible
to determine who is running the Legis
lature from the Inside, there is an in
stinctive desire that there should bo
some force directing and leading; it
from the outside, same force which
shall be obvious and therefore respon
sible, open to tho view of everybody
and aubject only to the restraints of
public opinion. Public opinion must by
hook or crook get into the business. If
tt cannot get Into It through commit
tee rooms it may possibly get Into It
through executive leadership.'
Sanplclon May Be Evaded.
"If such changes go. to their natural
length It Is reasonable to expect that
Legislatures will be less distrusted The
position of our fcUate, legislatures is In
many Instances position that must
be regarded as very mortifying. They
are forbidden In many of our states to
meet more than once In two years and
are forbidden when they meet to sit for
more than tf. or. It may be, 90 days.
The whole Implication of auch restric
tion Is that the people regard the ses
sions of the legislature as a necessary
evil, as something to be guarded as
anything else dangerous and under sus
picion would be restrained. No one
who feels the full American pride "ln
our Institutions csn fail to deplore
these evidences of distrust.'
"The defect of the whole method is
that It does not lead to suf Helen tly
thorough debate. There Is no one of
equal authority and lnfiuonce with the
executive to debate public matters of
ficially with him; do single legislator
occupies his place of advantage in get
ting at public opinion. There Is no one
in a situation of authority which en
ables him to answer the Governor or
the President as effectively as the Gov
ernor or the President can himself
speak by reason of his larger au
thority. This is not a desirable state
of affairs. The great thing to bo de
sired Is debate, debate among author
itative persons as well as debate upon
the stump, and the more thorough-going,
the more fearless this debate Is,
the better.
Public Ordeal Is T?t.
-Moreover, It Is sttll further belittl
ing to our legislatures that the discus
sions led by our Executives should be
held outside of th legislative cham
bers. To do this la to make the tittle
debate that occurs In the legislature
a thing of little or no significance, and
It is clearly d slrable. Indeed Impera
tive, that In order that the authority
of our legislative bodies should be re
vived the most effective and thorough
going debate should take place within
their chambers. Undoubtedly the hope
of the Immediate future Is that by slow
ly getting rid of machine control and
the control of secret Interests of other
klnos lnsid our legislative chambers.
they may thoroughly regain their self
possession and their self-respect, and
In regaining these may return to their
one-time practice of debate and put
everything tnat they do to the public
ordeaL
In that way lies the recovery of
their prestige and 1 think there can be
no doubt UMfct tii prcac&f procCMc at
reform will presently bring about that
much to be desired result, when the
peonle will again depend, and depend
w-ith confidence, upon their legisla
tures and not lean as if for rescue upon
their Executives."
Those at the banquet were:
r. - Ackcrman. k: B. Aldrleh.' Pendleton
Ceneral Thomas A. Anderson H. B. Adams,
It. Atkinson. (Jeorre Brady. Harvey Beck
with. Mr. Barclay. Mr. Burton, C. H. Bauer.
J. T. Barron. Sol Blumauer. Floyd Bilyeu,
R. p. Bonham. Astoria; J. S. Be a Is. W. U
Pule. nr. Berkely, Thomas Bilyeu. Fred
Bell. V. T. Buchanan, Charles Cogster, afa
Jur Cabell. V. S. A.. W. Cole. J. W. Col
lins. K. l Carpenter. C. C. Colt. John F.
Carroll. W. E. Coman, X. B. Crow, B. B.
Chum hers. W. II. Cannon. Medford; R. D.
Cannon. Dr. J. y. Casseday, C. A. Coolidp,
C. J. Curtis. J. XV. Collins. E- Caswell. H.
H Kasterlv. Dwiirht Edwards. YV. t. Fenton
Clinton S Fletcher. J. W. Ferguson. F. L
Fuller. I. N. F1eishner. W. H. Fayle. Leo
Friede. W H. Fear. A. JT. Fox, A. Felden-
helmer. C Felderthelmer. A. L. Fish, R. M
Grav. Judge William Galloway. McMlnn
vllte. John M. Geario. Judge W. N. Gatens,
S. M. Garland. W. J. Hofmann. Bert E.
Hunev. W. H Holmes. Palem: Oscar Hayter,
Dallas "S. W. Herrmann, George W. Hol
conib. S. K. Holcomb, Hugh Hume. V. Hoi
man. C. M- Hill. George M. Hyland, Frank
Irwin,' B. S. Josselyn. George W. Joseph,
W. N. Kaiser. Salem. Samuel c. Kerr. W. R
King. W. J. Lyons, L Allen lewis. Robert
Lewis. William li. lewis, George Lawrence
Jr. n o. Iavelv. P. Loweii k art, C S. Mul
lens. Astoria, WV A. Montgomery, Richard
W. Montague, Major Martin. T". S. A.,
Charles B. Merrick. H. W. MltchelL John
Manning. M. G. Munly. E. J. Mautz, Julius
I Meier. Dan J. Malarkey. M. A. Miller,
l,-hanon. I. A. McNary. Robert A. Miller.
Wailla Xash. Cllro Oyama, C. B. Pfahler,
nunt Uk6 Goransson posse, John Pauer. B.
lee Paget. Dr. E. A. Pierce, H. I- Pittock,
K. B. Piier. Captain John T. Qulnan. Dr.
Paul Rockey. Dr. A. E. Rockey. C. W. Rid
drll. J- R. Rogers. Fred H. Rothchlld, R. W.
Ttavmond. ramuel J. Rich, 8. C. Rogers.
MeCreedle Hykes. Dr. Andrew C. Smith.
John Sawyer. Astoria. R. Sinnott, Paul See
lev Thomas N. Strong. Paul H. Stroat, M.
SlcheJ, R. Sleight, C. Schuehel. Ben Selling,
A. M Shannon. Alex week. Frank H.
Siofkhrldue. F. D. Ptephanson. W. E.
Hchimpf. Arthur P. TIfft, George M. Trow
hrldjee. Mr. Thomas. W. S. C'Ren. Henry
T. Van Duxer, Governor Oswald West. Colo
nel C. K. S. Wood. James G. Wilson. F. S.
West. Pr Calvin S. White, C. T. Whitney,
Ir. Joseph li. Wilson. F. C. Whltten. A. M.
Wilson, W. H. Wehmng, Samuel White, J,
L. Yarnall, Dom J. Zan.-
Yost Suggests Ticket.
"t propose and hope that In the next
Presidential campaign the honored
guest of the evening will lead tne
Democrats." said Governor West In re
sponding to a toast, ""and If bo does,
I want him to know that we have tim
ber In this state that would make a
good running; mate and that the ticket
should read "Wilson and Chamber
lain.' " Governor West spoke on the
"Oregon system" and the critics who
had asserted that the law was defec
tive as well as destructive. "It is
pointed out.' said he, "that hre In
Portland only a small per cent turned
out to vote and that the various can
didates received only a small minority
of the vote. I do not regard this as
In any wise reflecting upon the law.
It Is the. duty of citizens to vote and
if th'ey do not then they must stand
for the consequences. I want Governor
Wilson to return to the Kast with the
Impression that we out here think that
the law Is a good one and that while
it may not be perfect It -contains many
things wlil(.h are essential to the
progress of the country.
"I notice that Now Jersey, New
York. Ohio. Wisconsin and any number
of states have Presidential timber,
but they all must concede that they
have to come to Oregon City for their
Ideas. Under our constitution all pub
lic officials are subject to the recall.
This Is true of Judicial officers as well,
and while the Governor New Jersey
has expressed- views contrary to the
laws of Oregon, I believe in the law
of this stale and believe that it Is a
good thing. I believe that a Judge
should be revered Just as long as he
keeps his robes clean but when proved
to be crooked he should be treated as
a criminal.
"I believe." said he, "that the time Is
coming when the laws upon water
rights that are being worked out will
bring to the country at large a new
doctrine which will be found to apply
to other lines besides that of water
rig In iu aa irrigated country.' ;
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