THE MORMKG OREGOXIAN, THURSDAY, JUNE SO, 1910. 7 EFFECT OF RATES NOT FULLY SHOWN On Returns, Say Railroad Men, Competitive Status Quo Is Preserved. CARLOAD FIGURES FACTOR Eastern Jobbers May Win Over Northwest Centers, When Details Are Given Xear-Confiscatlon, Says W. W. Cotton. Just what will be the status of Port land commercial interests as a result of the.' decision of the Interstate Commerce Commission In the Spokane rate and Coast distributive rate cases Is a matter that Portland traffic men and railroad representatives yesterday declared them selves unable to determine from the pre liminary reports received concerning the decision. Until the schedule of rates proposed by the Commission has been checked over, the traffic men, they declare, will toe un able to ascertain whether Portland's territory or Spokane's territory can be invaded by the other under the new rates, or whether both will suffer In con sequence of closer competition with Eastern Jobbers. According: to R. B. Miller, traffic man ager of the Harrlman lines in the North west, nothing: can be determined as to tbe real effect of the decision until, the full text Is available. Question Still Open. "IT. as Is Indicated tn the press report of the decision," said Mr. Miller yester day, "the rates from the East to Spokane are reduced 20 per cent and the distribu tive rates from Portland are reduced 20 per cent, the rate conditions affecting" the two cities will remain in status quo, with this exception: "The margin of the Jobber's profit Is found in the difference between the car load and the less than carload rates. If this margin is narrow it Is to the advan tage of the Eastern Jobber, while if it is wide it is to the advantage of the Coast and interior jobber. "For instance, if the carload rate from the East to Walla "Walla on canned goods Is tl.25 and the less than carload rate Is $2 per 100 pounds the Walla Walla Jobber can ship In canned goods In car load lots and distribute them to the cus tomers in his territory and overcome the competition of the Jobbers located in Chicago, St. Louis, St. Paul or other Eastern cities. Where Eastern Jobber Gains. "But suppose the Interstate Commerce "Commission reduces the carload rate to Jl and the less than carload rate to $1.23, then the Eastern Jobber can undersell his Walla Walla competitor on goods in less than carload quantit's. He has only a difference of 25 ' centn to overcome, as against 75 cents in the other instance, end does not nave the expense of un loading and cartln, while the volume of blB business is greater and he does not have so much money, tied up In a single shipment on which he must realize an Interest Income. "This general principle applies to Spo kane, Portland, Seattle and Tacoma, and so I say that, until tbe schedule of rates is known, we cannot tell what the rela tive effects will be upon the communities interested. "As a matter of fact, no merchant ever honestly complains of the volume of the rate, but only of the difference between the carload and less than carload rates. And in fact, the shippers are the only ones Interested, for we might Increase the present rates 25, 50 or even 100 per cent and the price of commodities to the consumer would not be changed. Issue Never Settled. "But whatever the decision, the rate question is not settled, and it never will be. No railroad freight rate, no matter to what it applies, can be reduced to one point without Injuring some other point, provided competition is at all keen. Spokane wants low rates from the East to that city, but it wants high rates from the Coast to Spokane, that Portland may be shut out of Spokane territory. Port land wants low rates from the East, but high rates from San Francisco, so that San Francisco, which gets the same rate from the Bef as Portland, cannot invade iPortland's distributive territory. "The readjustment of rates can only mean trouble for the railroads, aside from Its effect on revenues. Even now wo are besieged to make changes tn tho lumber rates ordered by the Interstate Commerce Commission. J now have on my desk a letter from one manufac turer praying us to change the rates because he is being practically put out of business by the new rates and this mill was one of the complainants in the case which resulted in the Com. mission's order. I. am powerless to change the rates ordered by the Com mission, If I were inclined to do so. Trial Will Show Effect. "As to what will be the consequences on the railroads of the proposed re duction, the Commission has Indicated that it does not know and the carriers themselves could not tell. The plan of ascertaining the effect of the re ductions on the earnings of the rail roads by a trial of three months will elve a fairly accurate idea as to the effect this year. Most of the flxei charges of a railroad, however, are not materially affected by the volume of traffic and rates that give what is determined to be a reasonable revenue t'-is year may not give a reasonable return next year. And once rates are reduced we can never advance tham again. That has been Illustrated time and again." W. W. Cotton, general counsel for' the O. R. & N. Company, and who ap peared in the case before the Inter state Commerce Commission, expressed en opinion similar to that by Mr. Mil ler as to the possibility of determining the actual consequences of the Com mission's order in the absence of de tailed figures. Rate Is "Near Confiscation." Concerning the postponement of a final order to permit the railroads to ascertain the results that the proposed reductions would bring forth, Mr. Cot ton said: "The principle of fixing rates at what "will constitute a reasonable return to the railroads is what I call 'near con fiscation.' If rates that give less than a fair return to the railroads, are con fiscation then rates that give Just a bare reasonable return are near-con-flscation. It is a matter of simple mathematics to determine whether the proposed rates during the next three months will give more than what the Commission decides is a fair revenue to the railroads, but if the rates are pared down, what Is near confiscation this year may be real confiscation next year. "A good illustration may be found In the story a physician told me of J-.ow they used to cure the 'dope' fiends In the Walla Walla penitentiary. The doctors would deprive those addicted to the habit of morphine or cocaine and sometimes it was' necessary .to strap them down. The physician would stand by a patient and when he decided that the man's physical condition ab solutely demanded the drug he would give him a 'shot.' Doctor Is Far Off. - "I see two objections to the application of the method to railroad rate-making. The physician is a mighty long ways from bis patients and he has a lot-of them. If an evil day comes and there is a sudden slump, his patients are likely to die and in any event the Commission can't shout business with a railroad. "I do not predict that the proposed re ductions in - rates will break, the rail roads, for I don't know, but I do believe that the final outcome will be that the investors in railroad securities will de mand that the Government guarantee a fair return upon a fair valuation of the property of railroads In times of business depression before the Government's Cora mtsplon ia permitted to enforce rate re ductions; or else the men who own the railroads will say that they do not want them longer." In the opinion of H. M. Adams, general freight and passenger agent of the Spo kane, Portland & Seattle, not sufficient details had been given yesterday after noon to. warrant the expression of an opinion on the results. "As between Portland and Spokane, neither seems to have gained an advantage," said Mr. Adams, "if the reduction from the East to Spokane is 20 per cent and the reduc tion of distributive rates eastward from Portland Is 20 per cent. The Com mission has simply taken 20 per cent of the rate revenues from the railroads and given it to the shippers." Spokane Might Be Benefited. W. E. Coman, who will succeed Mr. Adams on July 1, suggested that a 20 per cent reduction In each instance might not prove a standoff, as the higher rates from the East to Spokane are higher in general than the rates from Portland eastward. The reduction in the Spokane rates would therefore be greater and that city benefit accordingly in competition with Portland jobbers. J. B. Kerr, attorney for the North Bank road, declined to express an opinion on the case, on the ground that he had not participated other than to make a mere formal appearance on behalf of the rail road. J. N. Teal, who represented the trans portation bureau of the Portland Cham ber of Commerce In the Coast distribu tive rate hearing, is now in Europe. $280 BUYS MAN A WIFE BRIDE-TO-BE OX ARRIVAL HERE CHOOSES AXOTHER. Austrian Brings Sweetheart Over From "Old Country" Only to Lose Her to "Hated Rival." Having sold his claim on pretty 19-year-old Yerolina Banich, whom he had Im ported from Austria to become his wife, for J280 to J.oe Radllovich, a man living in the same house with himself. Jure Cotlo showed perturbation yesterday when his request that the county refund him the money he had paid for a mar riage license was refused. The scene at the marriage license office was tho finale of the young man's matri monial undertaking, which resulted in his general disgust with womankind. It was a case of a long-distance court ship between two young people who had heard of each other through mutual ac quaintances Cotic is only 26 years old, and the pleasing letters he had received from Miss Banich In far-away. Austria had fired his heart with a desire to make her his wife. At last he sent a proposal to her, which was accepted, and the nec essary amount of money for her Journey to Oregon was soon on its way to her. v Miss Banich arrived Saturday, and was met at the depot by Cotlc, who took her at once to the boarding-house he called his home, at 2S3 North Nineteenth street. There were other boarders at the place, one of whom was Radllovich, who refused to disguise his liking for the little Immi grant. The rivalry which sprung up between Cotlc and Radilovlch came to a crisis yesterday, when Cotic made such a dis turbance in the house where all were staying that Policeman Helms was Called to preserve order. Helms appointed himself arbitrator, and then he ruled that the girl should be asked which man she preferred. She at once claimed Radllovich, and thereupon Cotlc, presented a long itemized list of the money he had spent on the girl, and refused to abide by her choice until the money should be returned to him. Policeman Helms urged Radilovlch to pay the bill in case he was determined to take the girl, and after much discus sion a document resembling a bill of sale was drawn up, and in the presence of witnesses was signed by both. Cotlc and Radilovlch, the latter paying the J280 represented by his bill of expense, in which Cotlc forgot to include the mar riage license cost. FAIR ADJUSTMENT ASKED Waverly-Rlchmond Property Owners Want Street Widened. Practically all the property owners on East Twenty-sixth street, between Di vision and Powell streets, attended a special meeting of the Waverly-Richmond Improvement . Association in Waverly Hall, Clinton and East Twenty-sixth streets. Tuesday night, to consider the widening of East Twenty -sixth street, and while objecting to the report of the viewers assessing damages and benefits, were unanimous In their desire to make the street uniformly 60 feet wide. East Twenty-sixth street had been a county road but is now a street,- with a width ranging from 39 to 60 feet. Owing to a singular situation, proceedings to make it uniformly 60 feet wide have been slow, having been started anew many times, - Objections to the report of the viewers given at the meeting were based on al leged inequality of the assessments. It was 'decided to ask that the report of the viewers be readjusted. A special committee with C. G. Suther land as chairman, was pppointed to take the subject up and bring about a fairer adjustment of damages and benefits. Representatives from Kenllworth said that district is so anxious to have the street widened that the people there will contribute $200 to pay excess damages. Piano Is Basis of Suit. Ellers Piano House and the Multno mah Amateur Athletic Club are fight ing in Judge Cleland's department of the Circuit Court over possession of a $1000 piano in possession of the club. Ellers demands $400 damages. It is al leged that Mrs. Bessie E. A. Coker wished to give a concert, and offered the club that if she might use Its name In giving the concert she would give the club a $1000 plaijo. The concert was a failure, the piano was purchased on the installment plan, and when the payments ceased the piano house brought suit against the club. The contract' between Mrs. Coker and the club was made October 2, 1907. Beer, $1 doz. quarts, delivered to your home. Bpring Valley Wine Co. BOYS ADMIT GUILT Youthful Yeggmen Anxious, to Quit Oregon. WHOLE STORY NOT TOLD Robbery of White Salmon Postofflce Recited, but Similar Job in Mosier and Albina Are Xot . Admitted by Them. Questioned by Postofflce Inspector O. C. Riches, the youthful yeggmen, Harry Reed and William Rels, yesterday con fessed the bare facts connected with the robbery of the United States Post office at White Salmon, Wash., but re fused to implicate themselves In the burglaries at Mosier and Alblna. The prisoners are held to the Federal Court for the district of Eastern Wash ington under bond of $2000 each. The box containing the valise full of burglars' tools, nltro-glycerlne and loot was shipped from Mosier. addressed to Frank H. Trafton, believed to be one of the gang, but Reed and Rels con tend that It is not their property. For some reason the boys, one asserting that he Is less than 18 years old, are not only anxious to get into Washing ton, but were eager to convince the postal authorities of their guilt. When a doubt was expressed by Assistant United States Attorney Evans as to the date of the White- Salmon robbery. Reed informed him that it was done on the night of May 20 and a check: of the records corroborated the statement, and proved the truth of other state ments made by Reed. Prisoners Still Mysterious. It is believed by officers of the Gov ernment that the boys have not yet given their true names or told where their parents reside. Reed says he has lived for two years near Garden Home and owns 2.39 acres of land there. He says he will probably be able to give bond, but has refused to give further information about his life. Rels will not talk, except to say that he came here from Los Angeles. $ The prisoners say that they went from Portland to White Salmon by boat, and for three days prior to the robbery of the Postofflce, where they obtained $400, ti.ey picked berries for a farmer named Peck. On the night of May 20 Reed entered the building and secured the money, while Rels watched on the outside. Detectives Snow and Coleman will be entitled to a reward of $200 each upon the conviction of the men. The Postmaster- General recently issued a circular pledging that department to pay such sum for the arrest and con viction of each burglar, making $400 to be divided between the officers. "Locator" Leaves Town. Mike Larkln, a one-legged man, who is said to be the "locator" for the crowd of yeggman, made a plea in Police Court that he be allowed to leave town, which was granted, there being nothing to connect him with the criminal opera tions of the gang. A. Short pleaded not guilty and said that he was working at St. Johns and was a reputable citizen. Sergeant Goltz, Patrolman Martine and Detec tive Coleman all testified, however, that the man had a bad record. He was sentenced to 30 days on the rock pile. He is believed not to be an active member of the band of yeggmen. He intimated that he was a British sub ject and demanded an opportunity to appeal to Consul Laidlaw. Frank Trafton, to whom the grip full of nltro-glycerine and burglar tools was consigned from White Sal mon, pleaded guilty, but sentence was not passed upon him. He was allowed to leave town. Waters May Eseape. George Waters, 60 years old, and said to be the schoolmaster of the gang, told the court that he peddled notions in the outlying towns and earned an honest living. - He pleaded not guilty. It is he, the officers say, who Is the expert with nitro-glycerine, and in structs the younger and more daring members in the art of blowing safes. Waters was taken 111 at the police station yesterday and will be sent to the hospital. He isr not implicated by the confessions -of Reis and Reed, and probably will not be held. GIRL RETURNS TO HOME Lass Who Eloped in Boy's Clothing Back in Salem. Returning,, gladly with her father to the home in Salem from which she ran away on Tuesday, Nellie Van Allen, 15 years old,- was released from custody here yesterday morning without ap pearing in police court. A. youth, who was her companion in the elopement, has not been located, 'and the girl steadfastly refused to say anything about him. The girl's escapade is ascribed to fllghtiness following an at tack of typhoid fever. Sheriff MInto, of Marion County, see ing the girl depart from Salem In com pany with a young man, and knowing her parents, telegraphed to the police here and also sent word to the father. Xellie Van Allen, Who Ran Away From Home Wearing Boy's Clothing. Patrolmen Humphries and Montgomery were sent to watch the trains on the Oregon Electric road, but were misled, and the girl escaped their notice. She was found later at the home of friends at 9S5 -Vancouver avenue. She fought the officers like a tigress both at the house and at the station. Her hair was 3 1 Toll GOODS PURCHASED ON CREDIT TODAY WILL BE CHARGED ON JULY ACCOUNT. PORT LAND AGENTS FOR the MODART CORSETS, LILY OF FRANCE CORSETS. MADELEINE CORSETS Saivioigs a,s Noteworthy a.s 3Ever io One June Rose Sale Made possible by the replenishment of the sale stock throughout the store in all lines of merchandise. THIS FINAL-WEEK OFFERING OF mdiSL Tailored Soiib Is a Fitting Climax $50 to $55 $35 to $45 outs Many "women answered yesterday's announcement of this remark able offering of Tailored Suits and shared in savings such as never fail to satisfy. And today it should attract as many, if not more, for those who took advantage yesterday will no doubt tell the good news. Suits of pongee, tussah, rajah silk and of French serge of course all desirable styles and materials. Some in white serges and in light colored materials. Plain and trimmed models, and with lin ings the very best. $25, $27.50, $29.50 $32.50 and $35.00 $32.50 and $35.00 Another interestingly priced lot of Tailored Suits that at ' tracted particular attention yesterday. , A collection made up of tailored suits of white serge with narrow black stripes and a few in the medium light shades. Most of them are plain-tailored styles the kind that suit many a woman's fancy. Ho tftne Oiraipery Stoire HZ A Few Savings That Will Prove Helpful $5.75 each for utility boxes covered with plain white Japanese matting and trimmed with bamboo. Fitted with hardwood rollers. Rolls under bed. Regular $8.00 values. 45 each for Laundry Bags of cretonne, in floral pat terns and colors. Draw-cord with tassel. Reg. 75c values. 2o each for "Window Shades of water-color opaque cloth, in light and dark green; 6 ft. 6 in. long and 3 ft. wide. Regular 35c values. $3.75 Porch Shades at. . $2.05 $5.50 Porch Shades at. . . . .. . .$3.15 , $7.50 Porch Shades at $4.95 Three sizes, in imported German Shades, fast color, oil finish, 4 ft. by 8 ft., 6 ft. by 8 ft. and 8x8 ft. X6 yard for figured Curtain Scrim 36 ins. wide, in col ors red blue brown and green. Regularly 25e and 30c yard. mm .jfy"'-ijJ T? ""frra. Ip?1 Free instruction given at cropped and she was wearing a boy"s suit of clothes under her dress. The father, who Is a hotelkeeper at Salem, arrived soon after the girl's capture. He said that she had had an attack of typhoid fever and had been acting strangely ever since. She ex pressed willingness to' return with him to her home. SCOWS ARE BURNED CUT HARRIMAX LlXE ORDERS THAT HOUSEBOATS BE DESTROYED. Burning of Shacks, for Which Long Fight Has Been Made, Eliminates "Undesirables on River. Probably the first conflagration on Portland's waterfront that did not bring forth a request for the services of the fireboat George H. Williams or other apparatus took place yesterday on property owned by the Southern Pa cific, on the west side of the harbor, between Alnsworth and Albers docks, when eight houseboats were destroyed by order of the Harrlman executives. Primarily the dwellings were burned as the only means of clearing the front of an undesirable settlement, but the move was a'so In-the Interest of future betterments, for it Is proposed to utilize the sites usurped by the scowdwellers for modern dockage facilities when the new railroad bridge is finished. - "The original owners of the scows are gone, either having ceased their residence by reason of legal conse quences that gave them free accommo dations in the Penitentiary, or they found it advisable to leave the city," said Harbormaster Speler yesterday when Informed that the move for which he had so long labored had been exe cuted. "The scows in that particular neighborhood were not only a menace to waterrront property, because the in mates were careless regarding fire pre cautions, but before pressure was brought to bear there abided in the scows an element that cared naught for others and respectable persons could not pass the place Sundays on the river without being Insulted." The destruction of the scows marks the end of scowdwellers in the har bor, and only in cases where watch men are employed to guard docks are permits given for floating residences. Hofer Debates at The Dalles. THE DALLES, Or., June 29. (Spe cial.) A large audience greeted Colonel E. Hofer, of Salem, and Rev. Clarence True Wilson, of Portland, at the Opera house last night; when they debated the merits of the proposed prohibition amendment to the state constitution. The debate lasted two hours, and the audi ence represented the friends of both sides of the question. lOCo Morrison to the June Rose Sale a S 13. il . Syfl Oes OatTSatoO tra.oirdlnoa.ir'y Oor lotrodloctory Offer 66 on 5upireme $1.00 Down and 50c Weekly Places One in Your Home You Can Choose Any Model It's good fortune to be able to buy a sewing machine on such terms as these and doubly so when you can choose from such a modern and dependable line as the "Supreme." It's an offer that has, during its first three days, solved the sewing machine problem for many. Six models in the "Supreme" line priced at $16.00, $23.75, $26.75, $29.50, $35.00, $38.00. Demonstration every day this week first floor. home to purchasers of a "Supreme" machine. TURKISH u L E rM LJ There is a certain flavor to the exquisite blending of the mellow Turkish tobacco that fits in well with all oc casions and creates a spirit of contentment. An inexpensive package makes possible ten addi tional Cigarettes. Pictures of popular actresses now packed with Fatima Cigarettes. 20 -for 5 cents THE AMERICAN TOBACCO 1 at Seventh Xoll Office Forimifcore These and a Few Other Bargains Are Offered in the Last WeeK. of the June Sal e pearing attachment for typewriter, in quarter-sawed goldeu oak and 60 inches long, for $72.50 $S9.00 Roll-top Desk, of fine mahogany, regular pedestal base, 60 inches long, for 577. 50 $112.50 Roll-top Desk, of fine mahogany, regular pedestal base, with heavy writing bed and heavy construction throughout; 60 inches long, for 98.75 $89.00 Roll-top Desk, Derby make, sanitary base, in finest selected stock of quartered golden, oak. 60 inches long, for. . . .S577.50 ROTARY CHAIRS AND OFFICE CHAIRS $6.50 Rotary Chair of hardwood, in golden finish, for.... $5.25 $10.00 Rotary Chair, of solid oak, in golden finish, for $8.25 $8.00 Arm Chair to match, for $6.75 $14.00 Rotary Chair of quartered golden oak, for $12.00 $12.50 Arm Chair, with reclining back, for $9.75 Hedhrooinni ClhaiirSy IRoelkeirs $8.50 solid-seat Bedroom Rocker, golden oak, for $6.75 $11.00 cane-seatBedroom Rocker, golden oak, for $8.25 $11.50 rush-seat Bedroom Chair, mahogany, for ....$8.25 $14.00 rush-seat Slipper Chair, mahogany, for $9.00 $10.00 cane-seat Bedroom Rocker, mahogany, for $7.75 $13.50 solid-seat Bedroom Chair, mahogany, for $8.75 99 ewnmu COMPANY 5 IIP 1 Inc. $40.00 'JR o 1 1 -1 o p Desk, sanitary style in golden oak, 54 in. long, for $34.75 $41 Roll-top Desk, sanitary style, gol den oak, 60 inches long $35.50 $85.50 Roll-top Desk, with disap CONVENIENT PAYMENTS es J