THE MORXIXG OKEGOXIAN, WEDNESDAY, DECE3FBER 1, 1909.. AMERICA HAS NO CLAIM, SAYS GRANT Commander Declares Zelaya Is Safe if Executed Men Insurrectionists. HIS PERSONAL BELIEF ONLY Other Officers of Government, How ever, Declare United States Has Juwt Claim on Nicaragua for Death of Its Citizens. CHICAGO, Nov. 30.-An Interview re ported to have been given by General Grant appeared In a Chicago newspaper last Saturday. In this interview the Commander of the Department of the lake was quoted as saying that the t'nlted States would have no claim for reparation upon the government of Nic aragua if it was found that Cannon and Oroce, the Americans executed by Ze laya, were insurrectionists. After the interview had caused com ment at Washington, General Grant said he had expressed it as his personal opin ion that no reparation could be demanded In the Klcaraguan case if the Americana executed were found to be insurrection ists. The General said he knew noth ing about the merits of the case and had expressed no opinion upon it to be re garded as official. WASHINGTON, Nov. 30. General Fred erick D. Grartt's reported utterances re garding the execution In Nicaragua of the two Americana. Cannon and Groce, prob ably will not be a subject for action by theSecretary of War. Legal officers of the Government, however, well versed in international law, take a view of the matter entirely at variance with that of General Grant, and hold there could be no legal or other Justification for the killing of Cannon or Groce. General Grant today telegraphed the Secretary of War that ho had not stated in an interview that Nicaragua might have been justified, in the Groce and Cannon cases. General Grant's telegram follows: ' "I regret very much that false reports are given of alleged interview with me. I have had no Interview on Nicaragua." LEADER SHOT "WITHOUT TKIAIi l'ranclsco Espinosa Seized on Re turn From Visit to Washington. NEW ORLEANS, Nov. 30. George S. Lacoya. a planter near Ijcon. Nicaragua, Raid today that Francisco Espinosa, father of Rudolfo Espinosa. former Nl caraguan " Minister at Washington, and of Emllio Espinosa, one of the leaders of the revolutionary movement in Nicar agua, had been executed by order of Zelaya. According to Lacoya. who was a pas senger on the steamer Atcnas. arriving here from Colon. Espinosa was seized on his arrival at Corinto from Washing ton, where he had been visiting his son. was taken to Grenada and there shot, lacoya also said Colonel Hernando Bar rios and Maximilian Sacafs, prominent supporters of the revolutionary cause, were recently executed by order of Pres ident Zelaya. LORDS DEFEAT BUDGET (Continued Prom First page.) were occupied in clearing the House, tellers for division beinR Earl Walde grave. Viscount Churchill, Baron Den man and Lord Colebrook. When the vote was announced. Just before midnight, as 350 to 75 in Tavor of the amendment, a few cheers were heard. The Karl of Crewe 'mmod-ataly moved an adjournment and the House rose. An eager crowd -was awaitirg the re sult In the central hall, and when the vote became known there was a slight attempt at counter-demonsiration. Of ficials, however, speedily cleared he hall, and in a few minutes the lobbies and precincts were empty. Tory Leader Disapproves. - It is worthy of note that Lord St. Aldwyne, who as Kir Michael Hicks Beach was one of the ablest Chancel lors of the Exchequer of the Conserva tive side, has ostentatiously absented himself from all debates on Lord Lans downe's resolution, and this morning lie announced his intention not tci go ' to the House for the division. His ab sentation was due to disapproval of Lord Lansdowne's course and, together with that of other weighty Conserva tive peers, -will have great effect in the country. Among those peers who came down especially to vote was the Earl of Wemyss and March, who is in his 92nd year. When division was taken there -was practically no excitement in the streets, although early In the night crowds gath ered near the House and attempted a pro budget demonstration. A force of police "was in readiness, and so soon as the crowd showed a tendency to become un- manageable they dispersed the demon strators, being assisted by a heavy rain fan. Fine Display of Oratory. The final debate was distinguished by oratorical excellence, particularly in the speeches of Lord Curzon, of Kedleston, ex-Viceroy of India, and of the Arch bishop of York... The archbishop's speech was his maiden effort in the House of Lords and its eloquent periods, added to Dr. Langs fine presence and beautiful voice, made a deep impreseslon. The archbishop strongly opposed Lord Lans downe's resolution, declaring that it would be unprecedented for the Lords to reject a finance bill passed by the House of Commons by such a majority. Lord Curzon was plainly suffering from his recent indisposition and had to ask the indulgence of the House, but, despite physical weakness, which several times In his 90-minute speech threatened to overcome him. he spoke with his accus tomed vigor and art. He maintained that the Lords had an absolute right to reject the finance bill, and he agreed that the country was on the 'eve of a momen tous struggle, which might lead to the reform of the House of Lords. Assert Lords' Ancient Right. Earl Cawdor, ex-First Lord of the Ad . mlralty. who wound up -the' debate for the opposition, maintained that an at tempt had been made to evade the Lords' ancient right to reject the tax by placing all taxes on one bill. It was Idle to pretend, he said, that such a change of procedure by the House of Commons could affect one lota, of the responsibili ties, and duties of the second chamber. He quoted Premier Asquith as stating on assuming the Premiership that the function of the House of Lords was to check slovenly and precipitate legislation. I This, Karl Cawdor thought, fairly repre sented, the action the Lords proposed to take. Kef rlnjr to tackir.ir on license propo sals -nd land valuations to the budget, he aid that, as both these had previous ly been rejected by the House of . Lords, It would destroy all the power of the up per house if the Lords were, unable to veto the finance bill, in which these were included. He asserted the budget al ready had driven capital from the country to an alarming extent, had stunned the building trade and had increased unem ployment. Stove Called Unprecedented. The Archbishop of York said it would be unprecedented for the Ixirda to reject a finance bill passed by the House of Commons w-ith such a majority. The Peers would be Judged, he thought, not by their in tentions, but by their performance, and, no matter what they said, it would be understood that in refusing supplies for the year, they had rejected the budget. Quoting Lord Chatham, he contended the consent of the Peers was necessary only to clothe with the form of law a tax determined by the crown. The gift of grant was in the House of Commons alone. The constitutional question was one, the speaker declared, which would profoundly stir the people of the country, and many persons would prefer the pas sage of a bad budget to tampering with APPOINTED TO NEW YORK STATE OFFICE. Edward T. Perlne. NEW YORK. Nov. 30. (Spe cial.) Edward T. Ferine, who has been made first Deputy Con troller of i-ew York State under the new Controller. Clark Wil liams, has been for some time an officer of the New York Audit Company. Before that he was with the United States Mortgage Company, and prior to that with a Jersey City bank. He takes the place of Otto Kelsey, who was at one time Superintendent of In surance and whom Governor Hughes has been trying to get out of office for a long time. the fundanvtal principle of the consti tution. rjai enougn, ne said, to prove that the "udget was bad. The question was whe .her the Lords were competent, apart from the prerogative of the crown, to dissolve Parliament or compel the House of Commons to pass a budget not its own. but one acceptable to the Lords. The effect of the bill would be to en danger the existence of the second chara tr, never more necessary than now. Reform Not Monopolized. Lord Curzon objected to the as sertion that the budget bill was an in strument of social reform. Neither side of the House, he said, had a monopoly of the desire to ameliorate social evils. There were two pressing questions, he declared. The first was whether the na tion was safe, and the other, whether the people were sound. But neither ques tion, he thought, could be settled by taxation. After attacking the arguments of Lord Rosebery, Lord Cromer and Lord Balfour of Burleigh, and their position in refusing to vote on Lansdowne's amendment. Lord Curzon said he could not give place either to the Socialism of the bill or the revolution involved in an assault on the House of Lords. He declared the Lords had no right to surrender their position. If they did surrender, nothing would stand be tween the people and the House of Commons. He strongly deprecated the suggestion that England would adopt a single chamber system like that of Bul garia and Greece. Lord Curzon agreed that the country was on the eve of a momentous strug gle, which might lead to the reform of th House of Lords, but they would not shrink, he declared, from a contest which would give the nation a second chamber with strength denied them selves. He said he hoped his own party might be the one to achieve this ob ject. r JEERS' DOOM, SAYS O'CONNOR Irish Leader Declares Budget Fore bodes Uprising of Masses. NEW YORK, Nov.-30. Commenting on the action taken by the British- House of Lords, T. P. O'Connor, one of the Irish Nationalist leaders in the Housa of Commons and now in this country in the interest of Irish hon rule, said tonight that the British peers had, by their rejection of the budget, announced their own doom. He believed their action would precipi tate an uprising of the masses in one of the bitterest fights known to English poli tics for a century. In addition, the turn of events, he said, would act as a vigor ous incentive to the cause of Irish in dependence and would mean the final emancipation of the English masses. "I am greatly pleased." he said, "and so is everyone who is an enemy of the House of Lords. Every Liberal and, still more, everv Irish Nationalist, has known for several generations that it was impossi ble to have anything like steady liberal progress so long as the House of Lords retained Its power to defeat or postpone all democratic agitation. Ireland has been the particufar sufferer from the pres ent power of that body, for the House of Lords consisted exclusively of land lords, who have been always. the curse and the enemy of Ireland and, from the days of O'Connell downward, every single reform of the scores we have gained has had to be won in the face of the opposition of the House of Lords. Its hostility to Ireland has been main tained steadily to the end, for now it alone stands In the way of a home rule measure. "As to the effect in England, I believe the rejection of the budget will lead to an uprising of the masses, the strength of which the Lords have failed to real ize. They will realize it before many hours. "I believe we are on the eve of the fiercest fight we have seen in British poli tics for a century; that the fight will go against the Lords; that they have pro nounced their own doom, and that in two or three years their power of mischief will be so broken as practically to be non existent. "This means the final emancipation of the English masses from the grip of feudalism and of Ireland from govern ment by an alien parliament,' -- . i H s 5 v I t . i r.nnara t . ferine. I U. S. WEALTH TABBED Taft Completes Financial Part of His Message. $26,533,680 IS BALANCE Internal Revenue Tolls Booming. Corporation Tax to Glean More Than $25,000,000 Disburse ment Excess Is Small. WASHINGTON. Nov. .30. The finan cial portion of the President's message has been completed. It was taken up at come length at today's session of the Cabinet. The Panama Canal bond situation and other features engaged close attention. Today's official figures show an actual working balance in the treas ury of $26,533, 680, though the total balance in the general fund, which in cludes this working balance, the bal ance in bank and the balance of the Philippine Islands Is placed at $82, 079.472. Today's excess of all disbursements over all receipts is $252,747, and the excess of all disbursements over all receipts so far this fiscal year is $44, 295,956, as against $94,772,399 for the same period in the previous fiscal year. Internal revenue receipts are booming. More than $25,000,000 for the current fiscal year is expected from the cor poration tax. Estimates for the various depart ments have been cut heavily. There are $290,569,000 of Panama bonds authorized, but not issued. The sum of $97,069,649 represents the balance ex pended out of the general fund of the treasury, reimbursable from proceeds of bonds not sold. While existing laws authorize $375,200,980 in Panama bonds, only $84,631,980 have been issued. ITOEDIE STARTS EAST NEW CONGRESSMAN IS IN FAVOR OF PARCELS POST. Postal Savings Banks, Too, in His Good Books Promises to Arrive on Time. VANCOUVER, Wash., Nov. 30. (Spe cial.) Between November 3 and No vember 15, Judge McCredie, Congress man from the Second Congressional District, drew two salaries one as Judge of the Superior Court of this district and the other as Congressman, his salary for the latter dating from the day of election. Judge McCredie would have resigned the judgeship just after election, but Governor Hay .asked him to continue for a time. Judge McCredie leaves tomorrow morning via the Northern Pacific for Washington. D. C, accompanied by Mrs. McCredie. Among his visitors to day was Councilman W. B. DuBois, chairman of the deep-water committee of the Vancouver Commercial Club, who urged him to work for an appro priation of $160,000 for a jetty from the Oregon shore into the Columbia a short distance below the steel bridge, to make a permanent deep-water chan nel from this city to the sea. Judge McCredie said he favored a parcels post and postal savings banks. He will work for the reclamation of a large area near Hwaco, where the peo ple want permission to build a dike to keep the tide back. In his mail last night was a postal card from C. L. Clemens, an attorney at Snohomish. Wash., with whom Mc Credie attended school in Iowa. The card read: "Please accept belated congratulations from the little red schoolhouse. If you will move into the state we will elect you Senator." The last Is a joking way of referring to what the Democrats said with refer ence to his being an Oregon man. Judge McCredie yesterday received a telegram from Washington, D. C. asking if he would be there in time for the opening of Congress, and he re plied that he would. TROUBLE FEARED AT LEAD MOVER TRAVELS ON SAME TRAIN WITH DETECTIVES. - Men Who Saw Service in Cripple Creek Riots Hurry to Scene of Dakota Strike. DENVER, Nov. 30 Traveling on the same train with 70 employes of a detec tive agency who will act as guards at the Homestake mine, where a strike is now in progress. Charles H. Moyer. president of the Western Federation of Miners, left Denver last night for Lead, S. D. According to telegrams received at the headquarters of the Federation, the sit uation Rt Lead is becoming alarming, and Moyer was urged to Join other officers of the Federation now at the scene of the strike. The guards, who had been-hastilygath-ered from all parts of the West, were in charge of Robert Boykin. Many of them took part in the Cripple Creek riots of a few jeers ago, . and the reason for their hasty departure for Lead is said to be fear on the part of the mineowners that there would be a repetition of that affair. 'Union officials deny that the union miners have started any trouble, but ad mit that it may occur. KAISER OPENS REICHSTAG Ruler Promises Insurance for Work men No Socialists Attend. BERLIN, Nov. 30. Emperor William opened the Reichstag today by reading the speech from the throne. The speech dealt largely with domestic legislation and contained the Important announce ment that the government had pre pared a measure, extending . the sick benefit insurance to the working class es not heretofore protected, and creat ing a system of Insurance for the in dependent relatives of deceased work ers. The imperial insurance organiza tion will be modified in Important par ticulars. The opening of the Reichstag1 today was as brilliant as usual. The members assembled In the white hall of the Pal ace, those not having the right to wear uniforms appearing In evening dress. None of the Socialist members was present. At the conclusion of the speech the eldest member of the- Chamber pro- fsMJw is 9ie i$& rwMTS This month our stock is an exposition of the best wearables for men and boys. Our stock is at the highest point of perfec tion. We're just opening a special assortment o f -appropriate pres ents for men and boys. LION CLOTHIERS 166-170 THIRD ST. posed three cheers for his Majesty, and they were given heartily. The Emperor then withdrew. ..nd the members pro ceeded to the Parliamentary buildings, where tKeir sessions were opened. FUND FROM TAXES GROWS M ashington Property Pays Twice What It Did in 1904. OLTMPIA. Wash., Nov. 30. (Special.) For 1908 $30,438,000 was raised by direct taxation in Washington, as against about $10,500,000 in 1904. according' to a compila tion Just completed by Secretary E. E. Corse, of the State Tax Commission. This does not include the money raised by fines, licenses or assessments for special purposes. In 1906, the aggregate was $14,050,000; in 1907, it went up to $18,500,000. Real estate paid 74.45 per cent of the total tax for 1908. railways 10.79 per cent, street rail ways about 2 per cent and personal prop erty 12.3 per cenU. WILSON MAY4 GET OFFICE Brother of Seattle Man May Be Am bassador to Mexico. MEXICO CITY, Nov. 30. American Ambassador Thompson formally va cated the diplomatic office today, to as sume charge of the Pan-American Rail road, which he recently purchased. Until the successor of Mr. Thompson arrives, the embassy will be in charge of First Secretary James G. Bailey. It has been understood here for some time that the next Ambassador would be Henry L. "Wilson. American Minister to Belgium, and brother of ex-Senator John L. Wilson, of Washington. PIERCE TRIAL IS READY Missouri's Records Asked by Texas In Standard Oil Case. AUSTIN, Tex., Nov. 30. Both the state and the defense announced they were ready for trial today in the case of the state vs. H. Clay Pierce, for al leged false swearing. The selection of a jury will probably, be completed to morrow. JEFFERSON CITY, Mo.. Nov. 30. Attorney-general Davidson, of Texas. If Every Optician Were An or TOMET It Would Be, Better for Your Eyes No Risks Here 9 YEARS IN PORTLAND AND THE LARGEST PRACTICE IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST Since the word "Optometrist" is a new one, coined to apply to a specialist of marked proficiency, an explanation of its meaning is in order. Webster's new International Dictionary defines an Optician as: "One skilled in Optica one wbo deals In Optical Glasses." A Manufacturing Optician possesses the mechanical knowledge of grinding, etc., is familiar with optical paraphernalia and is competent, to fill an order from the Optometrist. A Dispensing optician sells glasses, etc., and can tell whether or not a lens is ground according to the instructions of the. Optometrist. But an Optometrist is fortified with, the additional and broader scientific knowledge of the laws of .ision and of the organ of sight, which is essential to fhe proper fitting of glasses. "When the eyes need attention always cons.lt an Optometrist. ' You cannot afford to be so careless with so important a faculty as the sense of vision. Eigb Class Work at the Lowest Possible Prices. Lenses Exchanged and Frames Kept in Repair for One Year Without t Extra Charge. THOMPSON ME1TUST SECOND FLOOR C0RBETT BLDG., FIFTH AND MORRISON. Member American Association of Optometrists. 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