TJTE 3I0RXTXG- OREGOMAN, SATURDAY, 1JKCK31BEK 19,. 10Q9.
GARY TESTIFIES
ON STEEL TIFF
Admits Independents Maintain
Prices Lest Trust Exter
minate Them.
IS ADVOCATE OF PUBLICITY
Would Prevent Manufacturers From
therein T'nfalr Prices Enor
mous Total of rronts 'W illing
to Glre Detailed Figures.
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Total capita lnvfted.tl.474.138.O0
Total lntrrt paifl 1.7 ll.ooo
Total dividend. paJd...S 22.M.o
F.irplua "7.MS.01K
Paid tor CM! ruction... 163,094,000
WASHINGTON', Doe. IS. The most dif
ficult problem presenting ltsrlf to the
1 louse ways anil means committee In
connection with Its work of revising the
tariff 1 that of determining equitable
rates of duty for the. steel schedule. The
published Tiews of Andrew Carnegie
with regard to the steel industry and the
tariff, and the testimony given by
Charles M. Schwab and other steel mag-na-tea
have not given the committee suf
ficient information as to the actual con
ditions which would result from a re
duction of the tariff, nor have they of
fered any data which would indicate
what rate of duty would protect Ameri
can labor and the small independent
ateel companies aa well as the larger
plant.
E. H. Gary, chairman of the board of
directors of the Vnited States Steel Cor
poration, waa the first witness before the
committee today. He was suhpenaed
and several members hope to get from
him information which they believe
necessary to determine the proper tariff
inn steel.
Judge Gary said:
Limit Price by Publicity.
"No railroad that Is able to ray J6 a
ton for raila has gone with ' Ahem be
cause they cost CS. I think fills question
should be approached from a different
standpoint. I don't think a manufac
turer on account of the tariff or any
toody else should ret more than a fair
return on his Investment. If he does
not charge a fair price, he ought to be
compelled to Sell for leas."
Mr. Clark Inquired how Judge Gary
proposed to prevent the manufacturers
from charging a price that gave them
more than a fair return on their Invest
ment. "By publicity and Government control
of the manufacturers.' he responded.
Con for Maklnp Pig Iron.
Jndge Gary earlier gave the cost of
manufacturing pig iron at ll.i.30 a ton.
Mr. Payne called his attention to the
figures lupplled to the Bureau of Cor
porations by the Steel Corporation, giv
ing the cost of producing pig iron at
J14.01.
The witness aid these figures were for
19S to IS, while the figures he gave
were for last year, when the mills r
not running st full time and when the
cost of everyrhlng waa higher. "The cost
of ore has been increasing all the time,"
he said.
"is it true that the United States Steel
Corporation fixes the price of steel and
steel produots?" asked ilr. Clark.
Certainly not."
How Kail Price Is Fixed.
' "Then how is it that for some years
back the price of steel rails has been
Z a. ton?"
"The price was fixed In 1S99 at a con
ference of ateel manufacturers anit with
the advice of possibly a few railroad
companies as to what would bo a fair
price for rails. Since that time the steel
manufacturers have adhered to that price
and I doubt if any would change It with
out notifying tiie others. They have no
agreement and do not have any meet
ings." "Isn't it true that you have such a con
trol that, if you fixed the price, none of
the independent manufacturers would
iare to set a price below yours?" asked
Sir. Clark.
"That may be true as tar as steel
rails are concerned." replied Judge
Gary, but qualified his answer by say
ing he did not mean that the Steel
Corporation had a hold on the industry.
Ihut that the independents recognized
the advisability of maintaining one
price.
All "Would Follow Trust's Load.
".Suppose the I nited States Steel
Corporation put the price up to $S0 a
ton. do you think there is an Independ
ent manufacturer who would not put
his price up to 130 a ton because you
had marked yonrs up?"
"I can't say." was the reply, "ex
cept that I think they would mark the
prtce up."
Judge Gary admitted that the hteel
Corporation could drive the independ
enta out of business In a competition
because the 6teel Corporation can pro
duce rails cheaper than the Independ
ents. Judge Gary said that the Steel Cor
poration could not survive In the tin
plate industry without a tariff, possi
bly less than the present duty on this
article.
Finances of Steel Trust.
Representative Clark wanted to know
how much profit the United States
Steel Corporation Is making. Judge
Garv sa d that the interest pain oiu
amounted to SIS0.71 1.000: the dividends
paid out. $ 262.35 4.B00: thnt a surplus of
J97.S45.O0O has been accumulated, and
S1C3.S94.0OO paid out for construction
He said that the total profits on the
capitalisation approximated 7.S per
cent. The I nited Mates Steel corpora
tion. according to Judge Gary. Is eapi-
t fired at $30.28l.l0 In preferred
stock and $508,302,500 In common stock,
and the bonds amount to S4S0.199.0O0.
on which the rate of Interest is a per
cent- The subsidiary companies nave
a total bond Issue of Sl2a.346.000. he
aid.
labor Cost Here and Abroad.
"Representative Underwood asked Judge
Gary if he agreed with Mr. Schwab, who
testified that tne cosi oi laoor in a ion
nf dut iron in this country and Kngland
la about the same and that the Increased
cost of labor In this country is due to
increased efficiency and improved meth
ods.
"This Is probably correct in regard to
pig iron, but it is not so of other steel
products, he replied, "lne corporation
manufactures annually ten to eleven
millions of tons of pig iron and the same
quanrttv of finished steel, including steel
rails, structural steel, steel wire and wire
products such aa naile, fence and piano
wire, tubes and tinplate," the witpesa
said. .
"WTiat percentage of the iron produc
tion is turned out by your company,
oked Mr. Payne.
"Last year 4X7 per cent of all.
"Willing lo GlTe Figures.
"Would you be adverse to our securing
figures that you originally furnished to
the Bureau of Corporations as confiden
tial information?" aeked Mr. Payne.
"I would be willing that the committee
should have that data for its own Infor
mation."' replied Judge Gary.
Mr.- Payne said he could not promise
that the newspaper men would not get
hold of the figures, as the committee be
lieved the public ahould have the bene
fit of all Information presented to tho
committee.
"Well," said Judge Gary. "I will an
swer in the negative; we are not averse
to . the committee having those figures."
SAVE
LOSSES
OX
OPIUM
Passage of Bill Is Put Off Until
Money-Lenders Get Cash.
WASHINGTON. Dec. IS. A successful
effort haa been aeemingly made to pre
vent large losses to bankers who have
loaned money on opium In warehouses
In San Francisco and other ports where
opium has been imported. through the
enactment of the bill recommended by
the Secretary of State to prohibit the im
portation of opium into this country.
When the bill came up before the
House committee of Interstate and for
eign commerce. Representative Know
land, of California, protested against its
bacpmlng effective upon Its passage, and
It waa referred to a. subcommittee today
for amendment, so that it will become ef
fective six months afler passage.
CHICAGO CLUB HARD HIT
IVATIOXAL LEAGUE COMMISSION
CKITICISES CUBS.
Pays Manner In Which Tickets Were
Sold for Last World's Cliani
lonship Was Bad.
CINCINNATI. O., Pec. 18. The National
Baseball Commission tonight handed
down Its declslm in regard to the sale
of tickets and scalping during the world's
championship series In Chicago. In Its
report the Commission says:
Severe Criticism for Chicago.
'From the finding of facts aa shown.
we are of the opinion that the Chicago
club Is deserving of the severest criti
cism and censure for the manner in
which they handled the sale of the tick
ets during the last world's series, and
that they must be held responsible for the
great annoyance they caused many pat
rons of the g.-.me In Chicago, and that
the complaints filed with the Commis
sion by the Chicago public were Justified
and warranted.
"As we have already stated, thure was
no direct charge made or proof offered
that anyone connected with the Chicago
club aa an employe was in collusion with
the scalpers, yot, at the same time we
call Mr. MurpliyVs particular attention to
finding No. 10 regarding sales to scalp
ers, and request that he make a further
examination of this particular feature of
the caso to ascertain. If possible, just in
what manner these tickets were secured
by these persons.
Want Ordinances Passed.
Tvr tuiiAi-A ill a a vrv hard mat
ter to prevent tickets during these aeries
reaching the nanus or scalpers, even
without collusion on the part of anyone
connected with tho winning clubs, unless
the city authorities pass proper laws and
ordinances to prevent scaipmn ui v" -us
BJ1U lor 1 1 1 i , c .
omnends that an effort be made by every
major leasue ciuo io secure ure ii-.-rwi j
legislation In their respective cities for
this purpose.
"The Commission announces that here
after all the tickets for all the games
during the entire series will be handled
by them, and that an attempt will be
made to adopt rules with reference to
their sale to prevent not only sucn iicKeia
reaching the hands of scalpers, if pos
- tha roneral nubile
everv opportunity to get them quickly at
several points and at prices' not in excess
of those fixed by tne commission.
SOCCER DISPUTE IS SETTLED
Only Two Players May Be Received
on Any Team by Transfer.
At an important meeting of the Port
land Football Association (soccer) laft
night, the rule regarding transfer of
players was amended to read that no
team could receive more than two players
during the City League season by trans
fer. Markay. halfback on the Rangers,
was transferred to the Columbias, while
Forbes and Lowe, of the Columbias,
were transferred to the Rangers. Doug
las, of the Rangers, transferred to the
O. R. & N..' Jack Hughes was appointed
referee for the big Christmas afternoon
game on Multnomah Field between Mult
nomah and the Portland Cricketers.
There was a full attendance of dele
gates. The City League game on the baseball
grounds this afternoon will be between
Multnomah and the O. R. & N. Mult
nomah's eleven will be the usual first
team with Gammle playing outside left
in Hanson's place and Hanson, who has
n wrenched knee, in goal. The O. R- &
N. will play Karr. Doupe. Douglas, True,
Hughes. Hlngley, Markworth, Seely, Wal
ters. Kendall and Wilson.
'Dallas 57; Eilensburg 3.
ELLENSBIF.G, Wash., Dec. 18.
(Special.) The Oregona still win.
They defeated the Ellensburg team
tonight by rolling up a score of 57 to
3. the game being free from roughness
throughout. Score by halves: First,
for Oregon. Fenton threw 6 goals.
Reed S, Shaw 3: for Eilensburg. Chap
man 1. Reed threw 2 fouls: Chapman
1. Second half Fenton 4, Reed 3,
Shaw 1. Morton 1. C. Shaw 1: Reed
threw 5 fouls. Eilensburg failed to
score in the last half.
BILLIARDS jAND POOL.
The "Waldorf. 7th and Washington.
Goble Murder Suspects In Jail.
ST. HELENS. Or.. Dec. 18. (Spe
cial.) A young man named Nelaon and
Mrs. Zeigler are under arrest here in
connection with the murder of Robert
Livingstone at Goble last Thursday
night. Mrs. Zelgler. who has for sev
eral years ostensibly conducted a lodging-house
at this place, has. It .Is al
leged, been arrested under the charge
of selling liquor without a license.
Mrs. Zeigler Is about SO years old. Nel
aon is 18.
Tho finding of a bloody shirt in Nel
son's room, together with several arti
cles supposed to belong to Livingstone,
including a pipe, establishes the evi
dence upon which .the accusation is
based. Fitted -bags and cases, Harris Trunk
Co.
TUFT WILL VISIT
L
GANA
ANNUALLY
Tells Enthusiastic Georgians
of Plans for Watching
Panama Developments.
RECEIVES GREAT OVATION
Citizen of Augusta Turn Out in
' Great Numbers to Ilonor Next
President Mrs. Taft Is
Also Cheered.
AUGUSTA, Ga.. Dec. 18. The arrival
of President-elect Taft In Auanista today
caused much Joyous excitement and
demonstration by the residents. He was
received with cordial Southern' hospi
tality. In discussing his forthcoming visit to
Panama Mr. Taft made it plain that it
was his purpose to keeu himself posted
throughout his Administration regarding
the engineering features of the work on
the Isthmus, as well as the administra
tive features. ' It is his Intention to visit
Panama each year of his term. The
problem that will receive the greatest
consideration during his trip relates to
the engineering features of the Gatun
dam.
Xew Orleans Sends Invitation.
An invitation came to Mr. Taft from
President Philip Warlcln. of New Or
leans Progressive Union, to return from
Panama at that port. Savannah also
has come forward with a bid for a
visit.
A splendid welcome was extended to
Mr. Taft on his arrival. The big train
shed was crowded with people. Taft ap
peared on the car platform. An official
welcome was extended him by fi large
committee, headed by President L. C.
Hain, of the Chamber of Commerce.
Mrs. Taft Cheered.
Mrs. Taft was also cheered by the
crowd which surged around the party
on Its way through the station to the
automobile cf Mr. and Mrs. Landon A.
Thomas, whose house guests the Tafts
will be until Monday, when they will oc
cupv the Terrett cottage.
The Thomas home la near the Bon Air
Hotel, three miles from the city, and the
Terrett cottage is adjacent to the hotel.
As the automobile moved away, a com
pany of Georgia's mounted militia fell in
behind aa an escort of honor.
Mr. Taft acknowledged the demonstra
tion both at the station and as ho was
driven through the city by raising his
hat and making a plentiful distribution
of the "Taft smile."
The trip from New York, which R-as
begun yesterday morning early and In
terrupted at Washington for luncheon
and a conference at the White House,
ended with no further Incident. Mrs.
Taft Joined the train last night at Dan
ville. Va. Robert and Charley Taft, tne
two sons of Mr. and Mrs. Taft, are with
them, and Miss Helen, the daughter, will
arrive at the end of this week.
Judge E. F. Eve. who has returned
here from Washington, made the an
nouncement that President Rooaevelt
had promised he would visit Augusta
during the stay of Mr. Tsft.
Vancouver Plans $35,000 City Hall.
VANCOUVER, Wash.. Dec. 18. (Spe
cial.) Realising that the city govern
ment needs more office room the City
Council will be asked to erect a new City
Hall. The plan la to bond tho city to
provide a City Hall large enough to ac
commodate the city ofitcers. police sta
tion, fire department and City Jail. It
has been Toughly estimated that thai will
cost between ISO.ono and 1.T3.00O.
E FLEET
COLOMBO BUSIXESS MEN GIVE
BANQUET FOU OFFICERS.
Occasion One for Hciprocation of
Friendly Sentiments . Between
Hosts and Guests.
COLOMBO, Coylon, Dec. 18. The
Chamber of Commerce and the Plant
ers' Association tonight gave a ban
quet in honor of the officers of the
United States fleet. Sir Henry Edward
McCaJ'.um, Governor of Ceylon, in a
speech said It haa been the good for
tune of Ceylon to accord a warm wel
come to the fleet and that its presence
would be instrumental in the continu
ance of peace.
The prosperity of Australia, Hong
kong and the Straits Settlement ' was
due, he said, to the crown colony gov
ernment, and America would have
adopted the system In the Philippines
Do justice to your
f ace bring it here
where you get the right
crown to embellish your
classic features.
Our stock of Winter
Hats covers the whole
range of style anoV we
want to cover your
head with a
"Beaver Hat," $3
None better for an ac
ceptable Xmas gift.
Hat or Merchandise
Orders issued. Selec
tion can be made at any
time. :
CLOTHIERS
166-170 Third Street.
hflrf lt conntitution nermitted. Gov-
1 I ,.m .rsia.ll tha ATPIlinlflrV
behavior of the American crows ashore.
The chairman of the Chamber orcom-
.. .. ri Pr..nt Rnnvpv.lt doubt
less had maiy objects in view when he
ordered the battleship neet arouna me
world, and he trusted mat in moi
..lnr nf thpsA would rjrove to be the
consolidation of friendliness between na
tions. Rear-Admlral Gperry said that in trav
eling in the King's domains he had been.
lv hv the solidarity of
the commercial, political .and economic
situation. There was no position poiwioie
for the United States in a war where
r.w.i HHfnln was involved, the Admiral
declared, except that of benevolent neu
trality..
In the presentation or is. pounas oi
tn til. nfflpprn snd men of the fleet.
the chairman of the Planters' Associa
tion expressed his profound admiration
for the unparalleled achievement of
marshalling the American fleet In a
stately procession from sea to sea.
Th. r...inn ninnrar. be declared, in
priding themselves on their independ
ence, acknowledged that their prosperity
was attributable to free institutions.
They especially sympatnizea wirn ino
American Nation and appreciated the ab-
tr-nm its tariff of a duty on tea.
and also the new pure food law, which
was aiding the consumption of Ceylon
tea. Admiration, sympathy and grati
tude, the speaker said in conclusion,
prompted the gift of tea.
Rear Admiral gperry, in ien;ius.
that unity of Interest and Ideas was a
hnnn of oeace than any
treaty. The development of Great Brit
ain s colonies meant, a Mirunjir i
the union of trade between the United
States and Great Britain. He added
that the security of American influence
In the Cevlon trade was due to the vig
orous work of President Roosevelt for
good legislation.
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Completing Handball Courts.
At the Christian Brothers' Business
College two handball courts are being
completed at a cost of SHOO. These courts
are of the regulation siie, having con
crete floors and walls. Students attend
ing the college use the courts freely and
they are an important part of the college.
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No medicine Was ever made that could take
his place. Trust him at all times.
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Frooi the Leather Forentare
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our showing of furniture, upholstered in leather we
recently added many new designs in Davenports,
Couches, Arm Chairs and Rockers. Particularly
strong at this time is our line of the popular Turkish
Rockers. The trustworthy, workmanship and con
struction -of these pieces is unexcelled the leather is
of the sterling quality. Variety of designs and wide
range of attractive prices will enable a pleasing selec
tion to be made.
Sale of Sample Couches Ends Today
The most attractive Couch values we have, ever offered priced much less than
regular witn tne mieimuii ut i woms m..?v. ""t "- i
Golden oa Box Couch, special $23.50 Golden oak Box Couch special 27.50
Mahogany Couch, special pW. to
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showing selected quarter-sawed oak stock and
polished finish. The Buffet illustrated here is one
of the designs selected from our line. It has fancy
glass doors, French bevel mirror, and the trimmings
are of cast brass. This design is priced at $29.00.
Others in the medium grade at $22.50, $26.00,
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GUIBUEH.TO MEETHEWFOE
MCIrXOMAH AT CATHOLICS
TO HAVE INITIAL CONTEST.
Hope Expressed That Event May
Become Annual Affair With
Local Sports.
i, vi.m thl. flflprnoon will
be the sceue of one of the liveliest
football struKSif-B n
the Catholic Yound Men's Club, of Al
bina, and the Multnomah Amateur Ath
lptlc Club , are scheduled to meet In
their first annual contest. Both teams
claim superiority, though, on account
of their experience and past perform
ances, the Multnomah players are the
However, as the Catholic Club Is a
new organization just branching out In
athletic sports, they are given consid
erable credit for their gameness. This
they have demonstrated on several oc-
casions, and hope to make eucIi a show
ing against Multnomah that they will
be In line for a game with the winged
"M" team each year. Should the club
come up to expectations, there promises
to be a repetition of the old-time rivalry-evinced
in the games between the
now defunct Potrland Athletic Club
and the Multnomah organisation.
Such an interest is something sadly
needed locally, for at present the splen
did Multnomah institution has practi
cally no antagonist within the confines
of this city: and if the Catholic Club
proves worthy of being a competitor,
there is no reason why this game
should not prove one of the most at
tractive annual struggles between the
two Institutions. The new organiza
tion possesses a number of splendid
plavers, some of whom have proven
stars in their college days, just as have
the men under the guidance of Captain
stott- ,
Only one defeat .-.as been registered
against Multnomah so far this season,
which. b: the way. was the victory of
the University of Oregon: and on that
account the clubmen are anxious to
have a clean slate for the balance of
the season. The Catholics are expected
to give Multnomah a hard battle, de
unite this record, andtpome football ex-
perts are urging th. clubmen to use
renewed efforts to decide the game as
soon as possible.
Multnomah's only remaining game of
the season will be with the Whitworth
College team, of Tacoma. which has
consented to come here for New Tear's
day. The Catholics have a game sched
uled with the Chemawa Indians for
Saturday, December -fi. which contest
will be played on Multnomah Field.
The teams will line up at 3 o'clock
sharp In the following manner:
Multromah. Tosl tlwn. C. T. M l
Smith L. K K rTltl y
Walker ..
I.'nnaat
I'arlr'in
Mi-Micken,
R.
I. T
I. G
C .
Mi'Ciure
K G I
fflader tl T I....
;.'!!xaniler. Rccd.U K I....
Stott (Capt.) Q
Slaker R 11 1....
Pilklnifton L H R. ..
Knudn. Jamie ..F
Qiilnlan
Mnrtln, 0'N::1
Klump
rhinber
. Fan-, Cairo:;
7apdr
OrcnK-y
'ilanni
KatcH (Cart.
.. Cook, Hall
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are $18.7.'). $30 sorts are $J2.50. Browns
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