I VOL. XL.VI1I. NO. 14.777. 1'ORTLAMD, OREGON, THURSDAY. APRIL 9, 1008. - '. ' PRICE ' FIVE CENTS. SENATORS HUGHES REBUFF RejectAnti-bettingBills by Tie Vote. BUT CHANCE STILL REMAINS Several Members Change Minds at Last Moment. ONE KIDNAPED, ESCAPES Ctnmlera RuTlny Allows ReoonM rtlon and Hughes Says Fight Has Only Reguiv Fanoher's Story of the Kidnaping. ALB ANT. N". T. April g. The vote of Senator Own CHssfldy. of Schuyler, Re publican, late today caused a tie vote of 35 to 2B and defeated for the time, at leajrt, the two Aprnew-Hart bills embody ing the recommendation of Governor Kuphee that the legal provision be abol twhed which, since 35, has protected public frnmhllns: at racetracks, whereas it Is a felony elsewhere In th state. lieutenant-Governor Ohanler. In the 5'nate. by casting his vote to break the time upon a parliamentary motion, which but for him would have resulted In kill injf the hills for .the rest of the session, saved them for another vote, at the dis cretion of the Introducer, Ajtnew, at any time when the order of business permits him to call up the matter. The Importance of this bit of subsidiary p roce rl 1 1 re may pro ve to be ve ry gre at nnd. if by any means the friends of the bills ran jy.nfn a vote from the opposttion and at the same time hold the 25 they had today. tl:ey may pass the bills and send them to the Governor. Hnglira Nav Fijr.it Only Begun. The Governor made no secret of his linppotntment over the result of the vW struRfc'. Ho would not Intimate i.ep.u-v he. would adopt, but that i eoards the matter as far from settled tndde clear by the following statement from the executive chamber to il is impossible to believe that the peo- ' will permit the plain mandate of the ff-.stltution to be ignored. The contest not ended; it has only befrun. It will Itinue until the will of the people has oeen obeyed. The vote cime at the end of a day so dramatie and Intense that people who have been about the Capitol for a jren eration remembered nothing like it. Un til the vote of Senator Wilcox, the last on the list, w.is cast Hfrainst the bills, the result was apparently in doubt, although for three days the opposition had ex pressed confidence that he would vote as he actually did. Conspiracy That Failed. The most remarkable feature of the day involved the mysterious absence of Fan cher, of Catteraupus. He was known to Intend to support the bills, and his vote was indispensable to their passage. Mes sengers svitvhcd for him all the morntngj without result, and the charge was free ly made by the supporters of the bills that his absence was involuntary and would prove to be the result of a con spiracy. When a recess was taken at 2 o'clock he was still missing. He app?arvd at last, when the recess was about half rone, with nothing to say for publication, but a story about his absence told privately was accepted by the supporters of the bills as confirming their suspicions, and in Its details con vulsed everybody who heard It. The gist of it was thnt he had outwitted those who would have detained him and, as he put it: "Here I am in time to vote for the bills, as I hnxe all along intended to do."' These Turned Against Hughes. Mr. Outs'dy. whom the supporters of the bills hold responsible for their defeat, voted on two previous occasions in their favor, although the friends of the meas ures admit that he has never promised to support them on final passage. I'ntil 11 oVlock CSrattan of Albany was declared to he in favor of the bills. At that time, after conferring with leaders of the Albany corporation organization, he wt-nt to Senator Agnew and announced ihat he would vote against them. Knapp. of iltnton, until late in the morning "was regarded as practically cer tain to vote for the hills, but about the same time he also announced that he would vote against them. There was some doubt all day as to the vote of Folker of Kings, but when the time came he adhered to the position he had al! along taken in the bills' favor. A I! of the 50 members of the Senate were present, the only vacant seat being: that of Fanehet of Niagara Falls, who idled nv-ontly. it seems to be generally greed that he would have supported the lllc. .Twenty-three Republicans and two ' mocratf voted for the bills. 17 Demo- its and eight Republicans voting against n. The two IVmocrats in the affirma were Fuller of Kings and Taylor of ge. The eight Republicans in the rive were: Burr of Suffolk, Cassidy Liiiyler. Kmerson of Warren, Gilchrist rgs, Grattan of Albany, Knapp of . wem pie or awrnenectady and Wil t'ayuga. r!t Chance to Save Bills. I the defeat of the bills, Agnew made the usual motion "that the vote by which the bills were lost be recorded and that the motion lie upon the table." Then, apparently realizing that the de feat of the motion by the same vote which had defeated the bills would kill the measure beyond rescue. Agnew withdrew it. Instantly Grady, who Is a pastmaater at parliamentary strategy, seized the ap parent advantage anfl renewed the mo tion. Raines came quickly to the rescue of his bills with a motion to table that of Grady. Attention was then called by Armstrong; to the fact that in these cir cumstances the presiding officer would have the deciding vote. Grady urgently appealed to the Lieutenant-Governor atd to his colleagues for support of his itio tion, but the lAeu tenant-Governor said that, while the point at issue was a motion of the minority leader, the ques tion really involved was the right of Agnew to control the time at which the vote should be reconsidered. In sup port, he said, of the precedent of "Sena torial courtesy," he would give Agnew his vote. This action saved the bills from utter destruction and made possible another contest. Under the rules of the Senate, the presiding officer has the deciding vote in case of a tie upon all purely parlia mentary questions; otherwise, he has no vote. For this reason, he could not have broken the tie by which the bills were defeated. There is an incidental question, technical but important, whether in the case of one of the bills the procedure has not left Agnew with only three days in which to move reconsideration. The parliamentar ians were earnestly discussing this to night. Hughes TIhs Card to Play. "Whether the Governor will call an extra session, to begin perhaDs immedi ately upon the adjournment of the regu lar session, to begin consideration of this and perhaps other matters. Is the. subjeot of speculation tonight. Not a syllable can be obtained from the executive cham ber upon that aspect of the question. A kindred matter which may become of some Importance in this connection re lates to the vacancy caused by the death of Senator Franchet. It is known taut the Governor Is carefully considering' the matter of calling a special session to All the vacancy. Serious constitutional prob lems are concerned. Franchet was elect ed tinder the old apportionment which the Court of Appeals has since deolan.J unconstitutional. The new app vtionment passed at the extra session last year re arranged the Senatorial district, but left that particular district as it was, consist ing of the Counties of Niagara and Or leans. Whether Ftanchet's place can be filled by special election under a differ ent apportionment is a question whch the constitutional lawyers are debiting tonight. The question involves the possi bility of a new Senator furnishing another vote for or against the race track bills by the time they are considered agvifn. Would Stop Wall-Street Game. Puring the debate My7arren said the Governor was in error if he believed that the bills would stop gambling or that he could make a "Puritanical c'ty" out of New York. Armstrong declared thAt the bills cov ered all forms of gambling and that, if Wall street speculation wad a form of gambling. It could be slopped under the present bills. One of the bills strikes from the Percy Gray racing law the i-lause exempting race tracks from the penalty which the general law imposes for gambling, and should It pass, bettors, whether laying odds at racetracks or else where in the state, will be subjeot to imprisonment for a period of not more than one year. The second bill is in th form of an amendment to the penal code, and makes the penalty for gambling the samo as in the first bill, and eliminates the. existing alternative of a "fine not exceeding Jl'OOO." HE FOOLS HIS KIDNAPERS FAVCHKK TFXI.S STORY OF THE S VP PER AND POKER GAME. Senator's Watch Set Back to Prevent His Voting Wins $-2000 or Kidnapers Money. ALBANT. X. T April 8. (Special.) It was 10 minutes to 3 this afternoon when Senator Fancher. apparently dazed, entered the Senate Chamber. His watch then indicated 15 minutes to 11 o'clock. Since about that hour in the morning, virtually al! the police resources of Al bany had been employed in searching the city for him. When the Senator learned that his tlmepleee and not that of the Senate was wrong, he laughed gleefully. "The blankety-blanks thought they had kidnaped me.' he roared, as he held his sides; "and I now see that somebody got hold of my watch and set it back four or live hours. J received a telephone message at my hotel about 11 o'clock last night to meet a party of friends at a wine supper. I quickly responded. "As soon as I joined them, the sur roundings were so suspicious that I would not drink until every member of the party had taken a drink ahead of me from the same bottle and glass. After supper we started a poker game. In this I won $2000 of their money, and would have won another $1000 if I had not lost my glasses and been unable to read the CArds. I remember that one or two handsome women were in the party for a while. "When I woke up this morning my watch indicated that it was too early to get out of bed. and I rolled over and went to sleep again. Finally I got up and went to a Turkish bath. Then I came up to the Senate. I am here now to vote for the racing bills and to fool the fellows who thought they had fooled me." Mr. Fancher would not give the names of any of his alleged kidnapers nor the location of the house to which he was lured. He appeared very much gratified by his triumph and treated the whole Incident as a huge joke on the unnamed persons involved. "I don't often play cards. he added, "but last night was the finest game T was ever 1n. I had them going hard and am sorry I lost my glasses or I would have won more of their money." j FEW BALLOTS CAST BY INDEPENDENTS Stay-at-Ho me Voters Defeated Odell. NOT A TRIUMPH FOR PARSONS New York Primary Election a Contest of Machines. APATHY EVERY HAND Hughes Men Register, but Forget to Go to Polls Reformers Are Bad ly Bumrd Bryan Democrats Ignoniiodously Defeated. BT 1.1XYD F. LONERGAN. NEW YORK, April 6. (Special.) The primaries held In this state last Tuesday are claimed as a great triumph for Par sons and his allies In the Republican party, and all the present dominant fig ures in the ranks of the Democracy. The truth of the matter Is that comparatively few votes were' cafit. and those only by the dyed-in-the-wool machine men. Inde pendents, who form a great majority of the citizenship, were prominent only by their absence from the polling places. On the Republican side the indifference displayed was marked. The leaders se lected by Parsons and Odell made house-to-house canvasses, distributed tons of literature, and did everything In their power to bring out a big vote. Despite all their efforts, however, less than one-third of the enrollment was secured In the dis trict that polled the greatest Republican vote, the 15th, and in other Assembly dis tricts the ligures fell off to a greater ex tent.' Here are a few figures from the contest-' ed districts that show how the stay-at-homes were In such a majority that they could have controlled every district had they so desired: - . Figures Are Significant. Fifth District Won by Parsons by 7H4 to to 29; total. 10SR; Republican vote of dis tort, 3422; stay -t-homes. unsn. Sixth District Won by Parsons. 134 to 72; total, I486; Republican vote of district, 47; stay-at-homes, 231. Seventh IMftrict Won. by Odell. SpO to 20; total. 1O00; RopuMican vote of district, asi'rt; stay-at-homes, 27117. Tenth District Won by "Parwons. 112 to 37P: total. 1291; Republican vote of district, 3f62; stay-at-homes. 2571. Eleventh Distrtrt Wn by Parsons. 6S4 to 277: total, 9U; Republican vote of district, 2978: stny-at-home, 20t7. Thirteenth District Won by Odell. H91 to M2. total. 12&:j; Republican vote of district, 41"S ; si ay-at-homea. 2 l 5. Fifteenth District Won bv Parsons. tnS to 1304: total. 29; Republican vote of dis trict. 674R: stay-at-homes. 31.7. (This is the home district of Governor Hughes). In the id, 24th. StVth, 36th. 27th, 28th and 31st there were also contests, and the figures were along the same line as those given above. There are two explanations given for the apathy displayed by the voters. One Is the private opinion of a Parsons As sembly district leader, who expects to go to Chicago to cheer violently for Hughes. The other statement 'is made by State Senator Martin Saxe, one of the original Hughes men. "There Isn't any more Hughes boom,' said the Parsons man. "It was purely FORGET IT! ! an academic matter at the beat, and it has now reached the stage where it has become ancient history. We made a good showing at the primaries, considering the fact that nothing was involved. Parsons men and Odell men were all pledged to vote for Hughes, and the men who really are Hughes men are the ones who seldom register, and when they do, forget to vote, "The regular Republicans of New York City do not want Hughes to be promoted to the White House. We have had two lean years since he has been in Albany, and the sooner he retires to his law practice, the better we will like it. We would like to see Hughes withdraw from the contest now. In fact, efforts are be ing made with that end In view. Of course, we will not force him, and if he desires, he will get New York's vote on the first ballot How long he will hold it is a question, but you can bet on one thing: When the break comes we will land in the Taft column." Senator Saxe takes the view that the primaries were not a fair expression of opinion, owing to the fact that so many Republicans stayed away from the polls. Was Not Fair Test. When. Parsons made his deal with i . I fevx-''i Pre.tdrnt 'lprlnno CaMro, of - t - Vneiitrta, Hoarst last year." tia says, "it dlSKUsted thousands of Rood, loyal Republicans, who regarded the alliance as an unnat ural one. These Repiihllrans failed to register or vote last year, and conse quently, their names do not appear on the primary rolls. Practically all or these men are Independent, high-class cltliens, opposed to Parsons and the kind of poli tics lie is playing. If thoy had registered last year, there would have been a dif ferent story when the votes were counted on Tuesday. "The real friends of Governor Hughes are not dismayed "at the temporary suc cess of Parsons. He and his crowd have pledged their word to do all they can to advance the Interests of Governor Hughes. If they fail to do so, the voters will hold them to an accounting this Fall." The primaries all around were a sad blow to the men who tight machines. For example, here are a few cases In point: Peter A. Porter, who ran as an inde pendant and defeated Congressman James A. "Wadsworth for re-election in 19ofi. was wiped out in his district. He lost his county. Niagara, together with Orleans. Genesee and Livingston. The only county with Porter Is Wyoming, the home of Frederick H. Stevens, State Superintend ent of Public Works. Peter Porter Wiped Out. This not only means that Porter and Stevens will fall to go to the Chicago convention as delegates, but that the Congressman will be refused a second term at 'Washington. Over In Brooklyn, Congressman George (f. qg-gj uo ppni3aoj CASTRO CALLED AMAZING United States Is Friend of Venezuela. HAS CHAMPIONED. HER CAUSE Now Accused of Aggressive Designs on Her. MAILSACKS FOR TACOMA Commander Hood Says They Were Opened Inadvertently, but; Pep pery Dictator Bubbles Over With Fury Over Affair. WASHINQTOX. April 8 Administra tion officials today expressed amasement over statements in President Castro's of ficial organ. El Constitueion, having as their basis the Tacoma mall pouch open ing incident. The editorial received the closest attention. Mingled with the feeling of amazement over the sentiments of President Castro is one of regret and mystification over the whole course which Tcnestiela has pursued in dealing with the United States. "The United States has been a good friend to Venezuela, ' said a high offi cial of the State Department today. "Twice within the last 15 years we have gone to Venezuela's aid when that conn try needed assistance." Twice Came to Her Rescue. For this reason he could not under stand why Venezuela has acted as it has. During President Cleveland's sec ond term, when Great Britain was threatening to encroach upon Venezue la's territory,- Mr. Cleveland sent a mes sage to Congress which had the result of referring the question to the King cf Holland for Impartial settlement. Several years iater. when the allied powers were threatening a blockade of Venezuelan port to compel payment of her - .foreign obligations. the United States, through Minister Bowen. stepped In and averted such a move. Again the question was referred to Holland. Mail Opening Inadvertent. The Navy Department today received a report from Commander John Hood, of the cruiser Tacoma, containing de tails touching the opening of the mail carried by that vessel at tbe La Guyra post office. It agrees substantially with the published statements, and the offi cials are satisfied the opening was in advertent. Ail the correspondence, on the Venezue lan question is now before Congress. Administration officials frankly admit they will not be surprised should there be some delay. The Issues presented are such that time should be given, they say. for thorough study of the situa tion. Senate Leaves All to Roosevelt. WASHINGTON. April 8. The Vene zuelan question was not considered today by the Senate chamber on foreign re- latlons, although Secretary Root and So licitor Scott, cf the State Department, were both present. The general under standing Is that the subject will be taken up when all the treaties negotiated at The Hague are out of the way. Secre tary Root is of the opinion that when the correspondence now before the com mittee Is considered it will suggest that the President have full authority to treat with President Castro in such manner as he flnda necessary. ROOSEVELT A IllOl'BLE-MAKER Castro's Official Newspaper AssaIN President in Editorial. CARACAS. March . The day follow ing the publication of diplomatic cor respondence regarding the violation of the mail pouches of the United States steamer Tacoma, President Castro's official organ. Bl Constlclonal. published an editorial ac cusing President Roosevelt of "searching for light Incidents out of which to create a conflict with Venezuela," and of having a "premedltr.ted plan." It says: "Is It possible that Minister Russell could have written his note to our foreign office without having a preconceived and premeditated Intention to attribute to a simple act, wrthout responsibility to tha postofQce In La Guaryra, Intentions which do not exist and to prejudge the act as serious for the Government of the United States Is to have a premeditated plan which ought not to originate, because it cannot, from the actual American Minis ter in Caracas, W. W. Russell. "From where then can originate the Idea of searching for. slight Incidents to create a conflict with Venexuela? From the chief of this legation who is connected with the Secretary of State in Washing ton, and who In turn cannot but be under the direction of President Roosevelt." Saying that it Is high time for the Amer ican nation to know President Roosevelt's real ambitions, whether that of friend or a dictator, the editorial continues: "If the Inspiration of Roosevelt, Pres ident of the United States, against the traditions which compose the union of the Americans among themselves, has as a basis the abdication of tha territorial sovereignty of this people or the nullity of their codes Just because of the preten sions of a few citizens who do not and cannot represent the will of the American people. It Is then high time that this hor rible truth be known and that the people of the New World know whether In the Government of the United States they have a friend or a capacious dictator." A profound sensation has been caused In Caracas by this article, for it Is President Castro who speaks. Between the lines it can be seen that relations are almost at the breaking point. DEMONSTRATION IS PLAXNED Asserted That President Will Ask Congress to Consent. CHICAGO. April 8. A dispatch to the Tribune from Washington. D. C, says: Plans are being elaborated In detail for the mobilization of a Joint military and naval force in Venezuelan waters as soon as possible after President Roosevelt obtains Congressional sanction to reeort to force against Castro. It may not be deemed necessary by the ad ministration to make this martial dem onstration, but the War and Navy De partments are both mapping out a tenta tive military movement. President Roosevelt cannot constitu tionally declare war against Venezuela. Legislative authority would be required for such a campaign. Lyndon to Have a Bank. OREGON IAN XBWS BUR51AI. Wash ington, April 8. The application of R. W. Green, Philip McC.innll, L. G. McCon nell, Myrtelle I. Gri?n and B. C. Crab tree to organize the First National bank of Leyden. Wash., with !2n.OT capital, has been approved by the Controller of the Currency. CONTENTS TODAY'S PAPER The Wea4her. TESTBRPAY'S Maximum temperature. 64 degrees; minimum, 3$. TODAY'S Increasing o!oudine, followed by how-er and cooler; southerly winds. Foreign. Lhibon quietn down, but soldiers are assas sinated. Page Hayti, weary of anarchy, longs for Ameri can intervention. Page 3. Awqulth, becomes Premier and Haldane may be Lord Chancellor. Page National. Roosevelt orders equal treatment of whites and nefcroes on railroads. Pape House committee reports naval bill. Pa;e 5. House passes Cannon's resolutions on paper trust inquiry and gags fllibusterers. Page 4. Government amazed at denunciation of United States by Castro. Page 1. Politics. Pulton's associates testify to his services in Senate. Page Odelt defeated In New York by stay-at-home vote. Page . Nearly half Illinois cotmtlea are dry. Page 4. La Follette wins nearly all Wisconsin dele gates. Page 4. Ioiitewtlo. Riot caused by panlr among Italians about Black Hand. Page Anti-betting bills killed In Sew York Senate. but may be revived. Page l. Senator Fancher tells how kidnapers tried to prevent his voting for anti-betting bills. Page 1. Harrfman comes to rescue of Erie road and his enemy Morgan. Page J. Earnings of O. R. A S. Railroad. Page 1. Padflq Coast. Salem juror faints on hearing love letters read In court. Page 8. Over s.W.OOO change hands in Tacoma as result of election. Page . Former husband of happily married woman turns up, wrecking home. Page 12. Evans very weak and cannot attend fes tivities In Southern California ports. Page 4. Ruef loses appeal against trial by Judge roollng. Page T. Sport. Coast League: San Francleo !. Portland 6; Los Angeles 11, Oakland 2. Page Commercial and Marine. Launch Laddie collides with ferry "vr. S. Mason and sinks. Page IS. Meeting of grain Interests at Board of Trade to discuss rules and regulations. Page 17. Stock market sluggish. Page 17. Government crop report shows high con dition of Winter wheat. Page 17. Portland and Vicinity. Portland Heights people adopt plana for $100,000 scenic driveway. Page 11. Council adopts lighting ordinance over Mayor's veto after hot debate. Page 10. Mayor in mrsage blames Council with needles expenditures. Pare 10. Council pauses four votes over Mayor's head. Page 10. Preliminary hearing of Dr. G. B. Whitney. Page 12. - BhertfT arrests ex-convict for Arleta hold-up. Page 16. Report to Commercial Club proves depth-of ColumH channel. Page lli. Checks mailed to winners In Commercial Club prize essay content. Page 31. Columbia University baseball team defeats WW Side High School. Page 7. HARKIIVIAN GOMES TO MORGAN'S AID Saves Erie Road From Receivership. OFFERS LOAN OF $5,500,000 Help to Chief Backer of Enemy Causes Wonderment. NOW DOMINATES ERIE LINE AVhlle Dim-tors Hesitate on Brink, Harrlnian Saves Road From Bankruptcy Morgan and Hill Now His Debtors. . NEW YORK, April s (Special ) While the destiny of th? Krie railroad was trembling in the ualum: thU after noon, the road's bankers huvlnst refused to meet its maturing sh.rt torni notes in cash and the board of diroctorH beins: In session to decide the c'jnip.'iny'c future, K, H. Harrtman, president of the Union Pacific, stepped to the front with a per sonal offer of J5.CO0.000 in cish to aavi the Morgan property from default and a consequent receivership. Help From Hostile Camp. Wall street was electrlrted by the an nouncement that Mr. Harrin:i- had en tered the camp of his rival in the gul?e of a rescuet. While Mr. llarriman Is a director of the Brie ro.xd. thi- other mem bers are distinct factors In the s.vrailed. Morgan group of financiers. They In clude George F. Baker, James N. Hill, Xorman B. Ream, Charles Steele, Fran cis L. Stetson. H. McK. Twomb'.ey at d William Pierson Hnmitto-i, several of whom are members oF tiie banking house of J. P. Morgan & Co. As the Morgan gr tip is closely affiliated with James J. Hill's Great Northern and Northern Pacific railroads and has had stirring financial conlilcts .wlih the Har rlman coterie of financier, Yho control the Union and 3oii;hem Pacific systems, the two camps have come to be regarded as permanently Ikm'.H". Harrlnian Sow Dominates Rond. So In financial circle- and th rafl"od world the stey takJn :iy Mr. Harrtman was regarded as .in U'uicc-dented inci dent, which presagu-i a change in con trol or the historic VrU- rallrond and a realignment of tho co'intry'a reat finan cial and railway interests. From an Innctivo member of the B;i board, Mr. Harritu;ni suddenly disclosed himself as the dominant factor. He s credited with having in t ie a personal fight against a roceivn-.ni. or reorgani zation of the Krl3 far tho la.t thro weeks, in the face of a wllll'isrness on tlje part of the rod'.- martasc-numt to accept such a solution of l.s financial trouhles. Notes to the amount of K.SOO.OCO fell due today and after three w.-eks efforts the company had admittedly been unabla to raise the cairn to meet them. O. R. & X.'S INCOME STILL BIG Xets $343,650 in February, $4, 493,079 In Seven Months. NEW YORK. April 8. (Special.) Tha report in detail of the revenues and ex penses of the Oregon Railroad & Navi gation Company, as reported to the In terstate Commerce Commission, for the month of February and eight months ended February 29 is as follows: February. July 1 to Feb. 20. Freight revenue I32.-tnl .S03,7 Paiweniter revenue 27,;J4H 2,S24.5ft5 All other revenue from ' transportation . 4fl,TM Revenue from operating 1 other than transporta tion . .7. Rn-H SS.322 Total orratlng revenues. 911. 7RO f,a33.3"5 Maintenance of way and structure 72.109 1,212,6x5 Maintenasce of equip ment 77.1 3 So5,Tn Traffic expenses 14.44:t 131.470 Transportation expenses. i.i:t:t 2.41H.117 General expense Uft.745 239,2.11 Total operating penses 519..-.7S 4.SOS.475 Net operating reve nues 303.2m 4,724.901) Taxes 4S.344 2.12.821 Operating income 343.009 4,482,079 ADMITS GIVING OF REBATES But Santa. Fe Official Denies That Rates Were Discriminating. LOS ANGELKS. April 8. Admitting; that more than $30,000 In refunds had been given the Associated Oil Company on shipments of oil out of Bakersfleld, Edward Chambers, the assistant freight traffic manager of the Coast lines of the Santa Fe, on the stand today In the hearing before the State Railroad Com mission, denied that these rates were discriminating, claiming that no other producers ehipped from Bakersfleld, to the same points as the Associated Com pany. Chambers said that it was the In tention to publish the rates granted ths Associated OH Company, but that the Associated Company protested, claim ing the publishing of the rates would result In the reduction of the price ot oil in San Francisco. Mr. Chambers also said that after many refusals of President Ripley to agree to keep the lower rate secret he . finally agreed to the payment of the funds without the rate being published. Chambers said the reduced rate did not apply to Stockton or Middle River points, and refund to these points were made by mistake and not by his order.