TII3 MORXIXG OREGOXIAN, SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 9, 1907.
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LIES
Specials
OF THAW
ANGER
cross-examination when he takes the
witness Is mere conjecture. It Is said
he may try in some way to attack her
credibility, probably as to her ability
to remember other things as well as
she has the stories she has declared
she told Harry Thaw from time to
time.
Mr. Jerome searched the city last
night for chorus girls whose names he
has had who know of relations between
Kvelyn Nesblt and Stanford White.
Under the leadership of Roundsman
Berry, of .Assistant District Attorney
Garvan's office, and P. U Berghof. a
private detective, nine of the county
detective staff were sent to the tender
loin last night and told to "bring In"
the witnesses. Two hours after mid
night three young women had been
found and, under watch, spent the
night at an up-town hotel.
HOW WHITE PUKSVED GIRL
Mrs. Thaw Continues Revelations
About Provocation to Killing.
NEW YORK, Feb. 8. "Call Mrs. Evelyn
Nesblt Thaw to the stand," said Mr.
Delmas, when court opened on the Thaw
trial this morning. As she appeared
and took her place in the witness
chair, Mrs. Thaw was dressed precisely
as on yesterday. She was extremely
pale, and her lips trembled as she re
plied to the attorney's first simple ques
tions. This was after Mr. Delmas had stated
that before any oral testimony was
taken he would continue to read the
postscript of the last letter offered In evi
dence yesterday. The letter was ad
dressed to Attorney LonKfellow.
The postscript was as follows:
"No one could have made me believe
since I first saw her that she would show
anyone except he. I first thought Bhe
cared for any letter. I should have bet
every cent in the world three weeks ago
to get money for fabulous presenta for
you; that after our trusting each other
no hypnotism could make you forget all.
I won't say but It is inexpressably sad."
Mr. Delmas' first question to the witness
was as to whether or not the "her" in the
letter referred to the witness.
"Yes, sir."
The letter continued:
"I have been asked to have nothing to
do with you because you are a dangerous
woman, lie never lied to you."
"From the first time he saw you he
wanted to do his best for you, to send you
to school In Paris with your mother, or
to send you both to school, and he never
did anything not respectable. Yesterday
he said you believed everything false peo
ple told you, as you did before, as you
are absolutely honest, he would do you
no harm, ever for it, only he was sorry.
He won't trouble you at all. aa he would
do anything for you, but now you must
get stronger without him.
"You said you would live anywhere,
anyway he wished so he could have chap
eroned ye and had all the honor of your
exclusive friendship, and lose nothing
himself. Indeed, he wished to give up
everything to do all he could for you. I
wish you would have spoken this morning
through the telephone. To make you
sure, I will explain. After I saw the poor,
ill-advised angel I was so sorry. She
meant to do right, and was right, and
she only kept the purest things from pol
luted, lying, deceitful, money-grasping,
Bmooth-tongued. hard-hearted, but soft
speaking professional deceivers."
Another Incoherent Letter.
In the letter were also the words, "If
I wished Evelyn to become mistress," but
through them had been drawn a pencil.
"Did the 'he' in the letter refer to Mr.
Thaw, and did he Bpeak of himself thus
In correspondence?" asked Mr. Delmas.
"Yes." replied the witness.
The letter and a magnifying glass were
passed to the Jurymen, who examined the
paper. The next letter, which was writ
ten to Mr. Longfellow by Mr. Thaw while
in Paris soon after he heard Evelyn Nes
bit's story, said in part:
"Thank you for sending $50 and $20 for
White's telegram. I know a contented
woman is happy. If you hear anything
please cable, but I think it will be secret,
the wedding of Josiah Thaw." The letter
went on:
"They would have seen our honesty,
and you would have been so respected.
Your reputation as a beauty would have
been greater over the world. You could
have owned Pittsburg not in money, but
politically.
"Alone I can't settle down. Besides, I
have no one worth doing for. Twice I
had to leave the table so they could
not see. but In some ways I am a bear
at times every other way I am more
cheerful.
"I am not responsible now. You must
know every story, including Dillingham's,
Is a fake, except one day I saw all those
letters all sham but I don't care a little
brass.
"You know me better than any one.
and if you don't trust me and know I am
true and unselfish compared to most men.
then there is no hope for me. I am
changed now, but not in truth, faithful
ness or courage. Promise me one thing
don't drink any champagne. I am too
poor and must live at home. I don't
pay for your ring now. Of course, if
you are in need, I can get loads of
money. 1 must stay here or get a cheap
ticket East. Of course, don't say any
thing about this."
White Renews His Pursuit.
This ended the letter reading, and Mr.
Delmas returned to the direct examina
tion of Mra. Thaw.
"Did you tell Harry Thaw of an epi
sode in your life connected with, Stanford
White and Abraham Hummel In New
York between your return from Paris In
1803 and Christmas eve of that year?"
"No, I did not tell until later." replied
the witness, with perfect composure.
"Did you ever tell him?"
"Oh, yea."
"When did you arrive from Europe?"
"In October. 1W3."
Mr. Jerome wanted to know what day
of the month.
"It was near the end of October, I
think: I am not certain."
"When did you tell Mr. Thaw?"
"It was early in 1!M, In January."
"Please relate what you told Mr.
Thaw."
"He asked me how I came to speak to
Stanford White after my return from
Europe. I told him I was driving down
Fifth avenue one day in a hansom cab
with my maid, and we passed White. I
heard him say, 'Oh, look at Evelyn." A
few days later I was called to the tele
phone, and it was Mr. White. He said:
'My, but it is good to hear your voice
again.' He said he wanted to come and
see me. I told him I could not see him.
He said it was very important that I
should see him at once. He said he had
had much trouble with my family, and
must see me. I asked If my mother- was
111. He said It was a .matter of life and
death; he could not tell me over the tele
phone. So he came to see me at the
Hotel Savoy.
' Told Stories Abou Thaw. '
"When he came in he tried to kiss me.
but I didn't let him. He . asked what
was the matter. I told him to sit down,
and asked again If my mother was- ill.
He said no, and also began to talk
about Harry Thaw. He told me that dif
ferent actresses had told him that I was
In Europe with Thaw. He said after
awhile tha't Harry Thaw took me to Eu
rope, and asked me why I went around
with a man who took morphine.
"After that he came constantly to see
me. He also sent people to me who told
stories about Mr. Thaw, the stories I told
him. I got very nervous, for I knew
Mr. Thaw was coming over, and I did not
want to see him. I told Mr. White I
didn't want to see Mr. Thaw.
"One day Mr. White telephoned me
that he was going to send a carriage
for me and I was to go to Broadway
and Nineteenth street. I did so and
White met me and got into the car
riage. He said he was taking me to
see Mr. Hummel, the greatest lawyer in
New York, who would protect me from
Mr. Thaw. He said I was not to be
afraid of Mr. Hummel; he was a little
man with a big, bald head, warts on
his face and was very ugly.
Hummel In League With White.
"When I got to Mr. Hummel's office
Mr. White went away. Mr. Hummel
asked me how I came to go to Europe
with Mr. Thaw and I told him that I
did not; that I went with my mother
and that Thaw followed. He asked me
about my quarrel with my mother in
London. I said it was a continuous
quarrel between us; we Bimply could
not get home. She wanted to come
home to America and I said she could
come, but I was going to stay there
and return In the Spring, but the doc
tor told me I could not dance for a
year. He asked me all the places I
went with Thaw. I told him I could
not remember. He said that I was a
minor and that Thaw should have been
more careful. He said he had a case
in his office against Thaw, but the
woman in the case was a very bad one
and he did not think the case was much
good. Then he said Thaw was a very
bad man and I must be protected from
him.
"Mr. White said I must leave every
thing in Mr. Hummel's hands. Then he
sent for a stenographer and the lawyer
said I must not interrupt him in what
he was about to say. I was very
nervous and excited and began to cry.
They began to dictate a lot of stuff
that I had been carried away by Harry
Thaw against my will. I started to in
terrupt, but the lawyer stopped me.
"They put it that I had been taken
away from my mother; that I had been
badly treated by Mr. Thaw. The6 they
sent the man out of the room.
Hummel Advised Suit Against Thaw.
"Several days later Mr. Hummel called
me up and asked if I had any letters from
Mr. Thaw. I said I did, but I could not
see what that had to do with it. Mr.
White also called up and said if I was
not going to help In every way, they
could not protect me from Thaw. He said
I must do just what Mr. Hummel said.
I made the letters up in a bundle and
took them to Mr. Hummel's office. He
said he did not want to read them, and
did not care what they contained. He
asked, however, if they were love letters,
and I said yes. He said he Just wanted
to hold them over Harry Thaw's head.
"Then he asked me why I did not sue
Harry Thaw for breach of promise. I
said that was absurd, for If there had
been any breach of promise, it was on my
part. He Bald that did not matter.
"Mr.1 Hummel said a breach of prom
ise suit would be a fine advertisement
for me. I told him I did not care for
that kind of advertising. He told me
an English Duke had once been sued
by an actress for breach of promise.
He declared he could easily win a suit
for me. I did not want to sue any
body. That made Mr. Hummel very
mad and he told me I was foolish."
"What more did you tell Mr. Thaw?"
suggested Mr. Delmas, to give the girl
a breathing spell.
"Mr. Thuw asked me if I had signed
anything in Mr. Hummel's office, and
I said I had not. He said that was
funny, for they wanted to cause trou
ble and I must have signed something.
I said I had signed nothing in Mr.
Hummel's office. Mr. Thaw was very
much agitated. He said Hummel was
a blackmailer, and he said, I think,
that there was something bad In the
air. and he impressed me that he was
going to see Mr. . Longfellow, his law
yer "
Squeezed $1000 Out or White.
'Mrs. Thaw testified to going to her
own lawyer and relating her experi
ences with Hummel.
"My lawyer told me that Hummel
was a shyster.' '
A laugh went around the room.
"Mr. Thaw told me I had no business
to speak again with Stanford White
He accused me of having improper re
lations with Mr. White since I came
back from Europe and I said that it
was a lie. He said it would look to
people aa if I was a blackmailer .by
going to Hummel's office."
"Did you tell of another incident?"
"Yes, I told him of one day when White
came to the Hotel Navarre, and he was
terribly mad. 'My child.' he said, "what
did you tell Mr. Hummel about me?' I
said I had not said anything, and then
Mr. White said I must have told Hummel,
because Hummel had Just squeeied one
thousand dollars out of him, and he was
SKETCHES OF EVELYN NESBIT THAW,
not going to send another thousand."
The witness said she did not know what
she had signed when she signed the paper
at the request of Mr. White in his office
in Madison Square Garden.
"I called Mr. White, on the telephone
after I had talked to Mr. Thaw and I de
manded of Mr. White that he put the pa
per in the fire, t He said he did not have
it, but that It was in Mr. Hummel's of
fice. Ha told me not to talk the matter
over on the telephone. He said he would
meet me on the corner, and we went
to Mr. Hummel's office. He showed me
the paper and my signature and asked
if it was mine, and I said it was. Then
they burned the paper."
Because. She Loved Thaw.
"How did Mr. Thaw treat you from
that time until he proposed marriage "
"He treated me very nicely, carried me
up and downstairs when I was sick and
brought me flowers."
After her marriage, the witness said,
they took a trip through the West. While
in Pittsburg, she said, she lived at the
home of her husband's mother.
She related how she had refused to mar
ry Thaw before she finally did.
"What reason did you give him for
not marrying him?"
"It was because of my reputation. I
didn't want to separate him from his
family. I knew it would be a good
thing for me to marry him, but it
would not be for him. It was because
1 loved him that I would not marry.
If I did not l.ve him much I might
have been anxious to marry him.
Mr. Delmas got the witness to relate
how she met some of the Thaw family
in Europe and continued his questioning:
"There was something which led you
to change your mind in regard to marry
ing Thaw?" asked Mr. Delmas.
"Yes."
"You were given to believe that his
family would receive you as his wife?"
"Yes."
"Did you meet Mrs. Thaw, his mother,
in New York?"
"I did."
"After marriage did you visit New York
from Pittsburg?"
"We did."
White After Her Acain.
"Did you tell your husband of the efforts
of Stanford White to renew your friend
ship?" "I did."
"What was the first occurrence you told
your husband about?"
"Once when I was driving on Fifth ave
nue, when I passed Mr. White and he
called out to me."
"Did you tell your husband?"
"I did, and he said it was not right
for me to see him and made me promise
that if I ever met White again I would
tell him about it." '
"Did you tell him?"
"I did."
"When did you see Mr. White again?"
"I was on Fifth avenue one day when
I was riding to Dr. Delavan's to have
my throat treated. I was in a hansom
and Mr. White was also. riding in a han
som. When I got home I told Mr. Thaw
that I passed Mr. White. He did not
attempt to speak to me, but stared hard
at me. I looked away. When I got down
to the doctor's office I found Mr. White
coming there. I ran up the steps, but
was excited and nervous and I told the
door porter that I would come at another
time, so I ran back down, jumped into
my hansom, looked neither to the right
nor left, and told the driver to go back
to the Lorraine as quickly as ever he
could."
"How did Mr. Thaw act when you told
him or this? '
Thaw A ery Excited When Told.
"Oh. he was always very excited when
I told him of meeting with Mr. White.
He bit his nails and looked excited."
"Did you ever tell Mr. Thaw -how you
came to be sent to school at Pompton,
N. J? and. if so, relate it to the Jury,
and also where the name of Jack Barry-
more entered into the discussion and tell
what your relations to Barrymore were.'
"I met Mr. Barrymore when I was with
'The Wild Rose, company. Mr. White
gave a dinner to a whole lot of friends.
I was asked to attend and I went there
and met his friends at the party. Mr.
Barrymore war there."
At this point a recess was .taken. Jus
tice Fitzgerald said that because of the
probable length of the trial he was dis.
posed to continue court on Tuesday, Lin
coin's birthday, although it is a legal
holiday. Mr. Delmas said the defense
would agree.
Jack Barrymore Proposed.
Mrs. Thaw, on resuming the stand
this afternoon,- said that when she told
Stanford White of Jack Barrymore's
having1 invited her to a party, he be
came very angry and said he would
send her away to school in New Jersey.
Mrs. Thaw detailed her relations with
Barrymore and her being sent away
to school, saying:
"It all came about through a quarrel
between Mr. White, my mother and my
self over Mr. Barrymore. One afternoon
on Madison-Square Garden, Mr. Barry'
more said to me, 'Evelyn, will you marry
me?" I answered him and said, 'I don't
know. White asked me if I would
marry Barrymore and said, 'If kids like
you get married, what would you have to
live on?"
"Every day after that when I would
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meet my mother, she would ask me if
I intended to marry that little pup Bar
rymore, saying Mr. White was afraid I
would- Mr. White then came to see me
and said I would be very foolish to
marry Mr. Barrymore, we would have
nothing to live on, would probably quar
rel and get a divorce. He also said Mr.
Barrymore- was a little bit crazy, that
his father was in an asylum and he
thought the whole family was touched.
He was certain Mr. Barrymore would be
crazy in a few years and for that reason
said I ought not to marry him.
"Mr. Barrymore asked me a second
time if I would marry him and I again
said, 'I don't know,' and he laughed.
The upshot of the whole matter was that
Mr. White came and said that I ought
to be sent to school and I was."
Defamation of the Dead.
At this stage of the trial, one of the
most dramatic features occurred. District
Attorney Jerome made an earnest pro
test against "any further defamation
against the dead."
Mr. Delmas had asked the . witness:
"After you told Mr. Thaw what hap
pened between Stanford White and you
In 1901, did you ever have any conversa
tion with him in which he told you what
happened to other young girls who had
met a similar fate at the- hands of that
man?"
"What man?" interrupted Mr. Jerome.
"Why, Stanford White," replied Mr.
Delmas in a loud tone. "Who else?"
'I appeal to your honor," said the Dls- i
trict Attorney, "that this has gone far
enough. Are there no limits to which
the defamation of the dead may go?
The prosecution has no chance to con
trovert one word of this testimony and
Stanford White is dead."
"Your honor," replied Mr. Delmas,
'we contend that, in proving the state
of this man's mind, we have the un
doubted right to Introduce evidence which
tends to show that fresh fuel was added
to the fire in things the defendant heard
from other sources. We will produce
documentary evidence executed by Thaw
himself showing his condition. I have no
desire to say one-word against the mem
ory of Stanford White that my duty does
not compel me to say; my duty is to the
living."
To this Mr. Jerome replied: "So we
have not the slightest evidence to show
that the defendant was ever of unsound
mind in his life. I submit that this is
matter which comes well within the
discretion of the court."
Justice Fitzgerald said: "The sugges
tion of the District Attorney seems a
good one. I would suggest that this is
the proper time for the introduction of
the evidence counsel refers to."
Justice Fitzgerald then explained to
the jury the law which, in cases where
insanity is pleaded as a defense, prevents
the prosecution from controverting many
statements which have been made to this
effect, whether true or not.
Wills of the Thaws Excluded.
Mr. Delmas then introduced a number
of papers. Among several handed to the
witness to identify was Harry K. Thaw's
will, in which he is said to have left
all his property to his wife. A full half
hour was consumed in the examination
of the papers, which finally were marked
as exhibits.
Mrs. Thaw then was excused temporari
ly, to allow Miss Frances E. Pierce to be
called to the stand to testify to her signa
ture as a witness to the papers. It de
veloped from Miss Pierce's testimony that
one of these papers was the will of
Evelyn Thaw. Both wills were executed
the day of Harry Thaw's marriage in
Pittsburg.
Miss Pierce said on cross-examination
she did not know whether all the matter
In the wills was in them when she ap
pended, her name. She simply witnessed
the signatures of Thaw and his wife.
Mr. Jerome" declared the wills had many
interlineations, additions, etc., in various
handwritings. He thought all these
changes should be proved before the
papers were received in evidence. Justice
Fitzgerald upheld the objection and ruled
the wills out.
Mr. Delmas argued that the document
was admissible because the pages were
fastened together with the, signature on
the last page. Mr. Jerome said this was
not sufficient identification. Justice
Fitzgerald stated that the Identification
was not complete and Mr. Delmas then
offered only the last page in evidence.
Mr. Jerome again objected. Miss Pierce
could not positively identify even that
page. Justice Fitzgerald ruled that, as
the will was to be used to show the un
sound mind of the defendant, it must be
positively shown that it was In the same
condition as when signed. He repeatedly
sustained Mr. Jerome's objections.
Mr. Delmas. stating he was not pre
pared to offer further evidence upon the
wills then, had Mrs. Thaw recalled and
asked her again if Mr. Thaw had con
stantly discussed with her, up to June
25. 1S0G, the fate of other young girls
"similar to your fate with Stanford
White?" and asked If in those discus
sions the defendant's manner was rational
or irrational. Mr. Jerome objected to
the question aa leading and was sus
tained. "Did Mr. Thaw discuss with you the
fate of any one?"
"Yes."
"Did he mention the names of one or
more young girls?"
Here Mr. Jerome said he must again
object upon the ground that this testi
mony was permissible pnly as tending to
prove insanity, and as yet there was no
evidence as to whether the defendant is
or was insane. Mr. Jerome said "there
seemed to be no end of these tenderloin
tales broirght here to smudge the memory
of him who is dead."
"If we have not been showing the
insanity of the defendant ever since yes
terday, what have we been doing?" asked
Mr. Delmas.
"I contend that I could have objected
yesterday," said Mr. Jerome, "but I did
not do so then because I thought we
ought to have some of this sort of testi
mony, but I did not suppose we were
going into the gossip of the tenderloin
for several years. I know you can force
it, Mr. Delmas, If you want, but the
court has the right to direct in which
order it is put in."
"I admit that right in the court." re
plied Mr. Delmas, "but it was owing to
the fact that no objection was made that
there has been no better foundation made
up 'to this time. As to the remarks of
the learned District Attorney regarding
gossip of the tenderloin, I am unable to
understand his meaning, but I suppose it
refers to some disreputable section of the
city. I can only say, sir, if you had ac
cepted the will which this defendant
signed upon the night of his wedding and
the codicil in his own hands, you would
understand what an Impression these
stories made on his mind.
"The court has repeatedly told the jury
that this is not gossip from the tender
loin we have been putting in evidence,
but the story this girl related to her
husband at the time he first asked her
to become his wife, and the subsequent
events in the life of these young people.
If the court feels it is necessary to lay
a broader foundation, we will proceed to
do so as soon as possible. In the mean
time, I will ask that adjournment now
be taken until Monday morning."
The adjournment was ordered at 3:40
o'clock. Thaw's counsel stated that Mrs.
Thaw would again take the stand Mon
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DEEP-SEATED, COMPLICATED DISEASES.
- We earnestly desire having all discouraged sufferers and men con
templating having themselves cured of any of the diseases we treat
pay us a personal visit or write us regarding their condition. Do not
hesitate because you have failed to receive a cure in treatment with
your family physician ; seek medical attention from a physician who
thoroughly understands your case and can cure you safely, quickly
and permanently.
Debility
Those conditions existing where
men are merely living a life of
existence, loss of memory no
vitality, pains in the back, tired
feeling in the morning, .loss of
slep, no ambition and, in fact,
you seem to believe that there is
no hope for you. But stop, there
Is. If you will call and see us
you wi,l oay the same. We are
specialists for these troubles. Call
at once.
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the originators of this. We cure stricture never to return azaln.
OL'R METHODS ARE OIR OWN. but we have many IHITATORS, who
try to duplicate this treatment. Bein? unable to do so, they give you
an inferior treatment, which oftentimes will make the patient worse.
Call and see us. NO CHARGES FOR CONSULTATION. WRITE I VP
lOU CANNOT CAM..
Office ninni 8if0 A. M. to 8:30 P. M. Sunday. 0 la M.
ST. LOUIS MiSSf DISPENSARY
CORNER SECOND AND YAMHILL STREETS, PORTLAND, OREGON.
4c
Regular
Value
$1.25
Regular Value, 25
Frying Pan.
woman makes further allegations of mal
treatment at the hands of Thaw and de
clares that he gave her t20tK) to compen
sate her for the Injuries she sustained.
Iiimit Raised to Nine Years.
SALEM. Or., Feb. 8. (Special.) Senate
hill 79. Miller of Linn-Marion, requiring
compulsory education of all children 7
years of age and older, has been referred
In the House to the committee on edu
cation for the purpose of amending the
bill so that the sge be Increased to 9
years of such children as the compulsory
feature of the law shall apply. The mo
tion to refer was made by Newell.
CURE MEN
In Any Uncom
plicated Case.
tin
"No Pay Unless Cured
CONSULTATION FREE
Varicocele
Not only causes that constant
bearing down feellnjr, but It
causes many reflex conditions in
juring: not only the parts but the
whole system. The wormlike
veln3 in the scrotum often cause
verv serious complications that
necessitate an operation. If taken
In time there is no need of an
operation, as our methods have
proven irora time to time.
mothnHa known nnlv w it w. Vinlnw
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