Morning Oregonian. (Portland, Or.) 1861-1937, February 08, 1907, Page 4, Image 4

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New Jersey In October, 1902, and early in
1903 I became ill. The doctors said an
operation was necessary. They told me
I was very sick, but did not say" what
was the matter. Mr. Thaw came to see
me and was the last person, except the
doctors, whom I saw before being placed
under the Influence of an anaesthetic.
He had been told it was dangerous' for
me to talk, so he came in quietly and
kneeled down by the bed and kissed my
hand and looked at me for a moment
and went out.
"When I recovered I found he had made
arrangements for my mother to take
me abroad to recuperate. It was while
we were In Paris on this trip that he pro
posed to me."
"While the Jury was on Its way to
court this morning a snowshoveler In the
etreet shouted, "Vote for Thaw." He
was promptly arrested and taken before
Justice Fitzgerald and allowed to go after
a. severe reprimand.
How White Drugged and Assaulted
Her Thaw's Persistent Love.
NEW YORK, Feb. 7. Mrs. Harry K.
Thaw was the first witness of the day
at the trial of her husband. In answer
to Mr. Delmas' first question, Mrs. Thaw
said she was born December 25. 1884.
She had been sent to school in New
Jersey In 1902 by White, became ill
there and had to submit to an opera
tion, the nature of which the doctors
did not tell her. Thaw came to see her
at the hospital, and said she should be
taken abroad to recuperate. The pris
oner's wife told tne entire story of
her life, how she was brought to New
Yo'-k by her mother and posed for art
ists to earn money for the family sup
port. She also took a place la the
chorus of a musical show, and it was
while there she met White.
She told of going to the Cafe Martin
to dinner the evening rf June 25 with her
husband and Thomas McCaleb and Trux
ton Benls.
While at the Cafe Martin did you
see Stanford White?"
"Yes, he passed through and, went on
to the balcony."
"Did you see him leave the balcony?"
The witness then testified that while In
tne l.aie .narun ants caueu lur a pencil, y
wrote a note on a sup or paper ana passea
It to Mr. Thaw.
"What did Mr. Thaw do?" was asked.
"He said to me, 'are you all right?' I
aid 'Yes.' "
Mr. Jerome's objection to the question
was sustained.
"Was there anything unusual In your
manner that was visible to othere?"
Wrote Note About White.
Again an objection was sustained.
"Mrs. Thaw, have you that slip of paper
"I have not."
"Have you seen It since?"
"Did what you wrote refer to White?"
Mr. Jerome objected.
"After you left the restaurant, you went
to the Madison Roof Garden?" asked Mr
"About what time was It?".
. "About the middle of the first act."
. Mrs. Thaw said she had seats With Mr.
Besle and Mr. McCaleb. Her husband
went to the back of the theater, she said.
He was away about 15 minutes and when
lie returned he took a seat beside her.
"How long did he remain at your side?"
" "About half an hour."
"What was his manner then?"-
"It seemed to be about the same as
"Who suggested going away from the
"I did."
"The play was not Interesting to you?"
"Not a bit."
"How did you start when you went
"I think that Mr. McCaleb and I were
In the lead and Mr. Thaw and Mr. Beale
Her Story of Shooting.
"How far had you gone when some
thing happened?"
"Almost to the elevator."
"How far were you from Mr. White
"About as far as the end of the jury
"You saw Mr. White sitting there?"
I did. '
"Did you see Mr. Thaw then?"
"Not until a minute or so afterward."
"Did you hear shots fired?"
"Yes. Immediately that I saw Mr.
Whlto I heard the' shots."
"What did you say?"
"I said to Mr. McCaleb: 1 think he
has shot him." "
"Did Mr. Thaw come over to where
you were?"
"Yes. I asked 'ntm what he had
done. He leaned over and kissed ma
nnd said: 'I have probably saved your
life.' "
."What "happened then?"
"I left."
"You were taken from there?"
"You left and did not return?"
"Yes "
'You said that you are the wife of
the defendant?"
"When were you married V
"On April 4, 1906." ,
"in Pittsburg, at the residence of Dr.
MoBwen, pastor of the Third Presbyterian
"Who were present?"
"I think Josiah Thaw, Mr. Thaw's
brother," the witness went on after a mo
ment. At First Refused Thaw.
"When did Mr. Thaw propose for the
first time?"
"In June.' 1903, In Paris."
"At the time did you refuse him?"
"Were the reasons of your refusal based
on an event In your life with which Mr.
White vat connected?."
Objection was sustained.
"Did you state In explaining - your re
fusal that It had something to do with
Stanford. White?"
"State what happened."
"Mr Thaw told me that he loved me
and wanted to marry me. I stared at him
for a moment and then he said: "Don't
you care for me?' and I said that I did.
He asked me what was the matter. I
ald 'Nothing.1 'Why don't you marry
me?' he said. He put his hands on my
shoulder and asked. 'Is it because of
Stanford White?' and I said, 'Yes.' Then
he told me he would never love anyone
else or marry anyone else. I started to
cry. He said he wanted me to tell him
the whole thing. Then I began to tell him
how I first met Stanford-White."
"Be kind enough to remember you are
to omit," said Mr. Delmas. "in relating
the narrative of what you told Mr. Thaw,
the name of any other person save that of
Mr. White. Now continue."
First Meeting With White.
"A young lady asked my mother several
times to let me go out with her to lunch.
She came, again and again to me before
I sent her to my mother, and she said,
'AH right.' On this day I was to go my
mother dressed me, and I went with Miss
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, the other young lady, in a hansom,
hoping we would go to the ballroom, be
cause I wanted to see It. But we went
straight down Broadway, through
Twenty-fourth street, to a dingy-looking
door. The young lady jumped out and
asked me to follow her."
"By the way, what was the date of that
event?" asked Mr. Delmas.
"As nearly as. I can remember it was
in August, 1901."
"You were then 16 years old?"
"Your mother dressed you to go?"
"I must caution you -to tell only what
you told Mr. Thaw."
"I will," said the witness. "The dingy
door opened, nobody seeming to open it.
We went up some steps to anotner aoor
which opened to some other apartment.
I stopped and asked the young lady where,
we were going, and Bhe said, 'It's all
right. A man's voice called down,
Hello." "
"Did you see the man then?"
"When did you?"
"When we got to the top of the stairs."
"Who was It?"
"It was Stanford White."
"What did you find In the room or stu
dio to which you went?"
"A table set for four."
"This was all that you told Mr. Thaw?"
asked Mr. Jerome.
"It was." replied the witness. "I told
him everything."
. There was a halt In the testimony here
while Mr. Jerome and Mr. Delmas whis
pered. "How were you dressed?" asked Mr.
"I wore a short dress with my hair
down my back."
The witness said they went into another
room where a big Japanese umbrella was
swinging. Mr. Jerome objected.
The witness said that afterwards they
went for a drive to the Park and re
turned to the house with Mr. White. She
said when she got home she told her
mother everything that happened.
Presents From Rich Libertine.
"Did your mother subsequently irecelve
a letter from Stanford White?" 1
"What was in the letter?"
"It asked my mother to call on Mr.
White at No. 160 Fifth avenue."
"When your mother returned did she
tell you anything?"
"She did."
"What did your mother tell you?"
"He asked her to take me to a dentist
and have my teeth fixed, and for her to
have her own fixed, too. She satd 'No,'
that it was a very strange thing. Mr.
"White told her that he did that for the
other girls."
"When did you see White Bgain?"
"I saw him in the studio. I got a note
from him inviting me to a party and say.
tng a carriage would be awaiting me upon
the corner. Before, he had sent me a
hat. a feather boa and a cape. There
was another man and girl with us."
"Where did you go?"
"To the studio In Madison Square Tow.
er. We had a very nice time there. Mr.
White said I was only to have one glass
of champagne, and that I was to be
taken home early. I was taken home
early to the door of my house. I told
Mr. Thaw that we had several parties of
this kind In the tower."
"Did you see Mr. White again?"
"Yes, he came to see my mother, told
Study From Life by New York W6rld Artist.
her that I would be all right in New
York, and that he would take care of
Meet Again in Studio.
Mrs. Thaw said she met White In Sep
tember, 1901, in a studio In East Twenty
second street. The door opened of Itself,
and the house looked at flrst as though
no one lived there. She said that she
went upstairs and met Mr. White, a pho
tographer and another man.
. "What did you see there?"
"There was a lot of expensive gowns
"What happened?"
"I went into the dressing-room to put
on the dress. Mr. AVhite knocked at the
door and asked if I needed any help. I
said. 'No.' "
She related her - experience In the
studio and said she had posed untU she
was very tired and that White, who
had come In, ordered food. The photo
grapher had left and after they had
lunched she went into a dressing-room to
remove her kimono and put on her.
dress. -
"I shut the door while I was inside.
Mr. White came to the door and asked
If I wanted any help. I said 'No.' "
She testified that she drank but one
glass of champagne and when she was
dressed she not Into a carriage and
was taken back to the hotel.
Given Drugged Ctuimpagne.
"The next night I got a note from
Mr. White asking me to come down to
the studio for a luncheon i.fter the the
ater with some of his friends. I went
to the Twenty-fourth street studio
again and found Mr. White and no one
else there. "Wrhat do you think.' he
said to me, 'the others have turned us
down.' Then I told him I had better
go home, and he told me that I had
better sit down and have some fruit. I
took off my hat and coat. Mr. White
told me he had other floors in the Gar
den and that I had not seen all of his
"So he. took me up some stairs to the
floor above, where there were very
beautiful decorations and a piano. I
played for him and he took me Into an
other room. That room was a bed
room. On a small table was a bottle of
champagne and one glass. Mr. White
poured out Just one glass for me, and
I paid no attention to it. Mr. WThite
went away, came back and said: 'I
decorated this room myself." Then he
asked me why I wasn't drinking my
champagne, and I said I didn't like It;
it tasted bitter. But he persuaded me
to drink, and I did.
"A few moments later after I had
drurjk it there began a pounding and
thumping in my ears and the room all
got black." Mrs. Thaw was almost in
tears at this statement.
Screams on Awakening.
"When I awoke my clothes all had
been taken off me. I started In scream
ing. Mr. White got up and threw a
kimono on me. As I sat up I saw mir
rors all around the bed. I began to
scream again, and Mr. White asked me
to keep quiet, saying that It was all
"When he threw the kimono over me
he left the room. I screamed harder
than ever. I don't remember how I
got my clothes on. He took me home,
and I sat up all night crying."
"Where waa Mr. White when you re
covered i
"He was upon the bed beside me, un
dressed." "What did he say afterward?"
"He made me swear that I would never
tell my mother about It. He said there
was no use in talking, and the greatest
thing In the world was not to get found
out. He said it was all right, that there
was 'nothing so nice as young girls and
nothing as loathsome as fat ones. . You
must never get fat.'
"He said the girls in the theaters were
foolish to talk. He laughed afterwards."
"Was Mr. Thaw excited when you told
him these things?"
"Yes, he was excited, and walked up
and down the room and sobbed. We sat
up all night.. He said it was not my fault,
that no one could blame me, and that I
was only an unforunate girl, and that he
didn t think any the less of me."
"Did he offer to marry you again?"
"Yes, and I told him that If I did
marry him the friends of Stanford White
would laugh at him and at me, as they
suspected our relationship, if they did not
The witness told Thaw that it would
not be well to marry owing to his family.
Mrs. Thaw recovered her composure af
ter she got over the most sensational
part of the story. Many of the women
in the courtroom were crying, and the
moat Intense silence prevailed.
Mrs. Thaw said she had told Thaw
about her early life with her mother
and of her financial difficulties. The
money she earned as an artist's model
she gave to her mother. That was the
only means of support. She proceeded:
Model and Actress.
"Finally I met Mr. Carroll Beckwlth,
the artist. In December, 1900, and he en
gaged me to pose for him, sometimes
twice a week. He gave me letters of in
troduction to other well-known artists.
and I posed for them.
"Did you tell Mr. Thaw all this?"
"I did."
Did you tell him how much money
you made?
"Yes; it was J16 or SIS a week."
Then, the witness continued, she applied
for a position upon the stage. The first
manager to whom she applied said that
it was not a baby farm and they did
not want to take her. She went on:
I danced for the manager and he
offered me a place, directing me not to
ten how old I was."
"When did you first meet Thaw?"
"In 1901."
"How many times . had you seen him
between then and 1903?"
"I had only seen him once in the mean
time." "Were you 111 during any of this time?"
ies, i had to go to a hospital."
Thaw's Kindness to Her.
"When you saw Mr. Thaw in 1903 did
you tell him about going to school?"
"I told him that Mr. White had sent
me to school."
The' witness told of her sickness and
the operation to which she was obliged
to submit, and of Thaw's kindness to her
at that time, which was early in 1903.
After her recovery Thaw arr&nired the
European trip for the witness and her
mother. Thaw followed them to Europe.
Here reference was made to a letter
that Thaw wrote to the witness while
she was abroad and Mr. Delmas sought
to introduce It as evidence. Mr. Jerome
"What is the relevancy of the letter?'
asked Justice Fitzgerald.
'Its contents have direct reference to
the statement made by the witness to Mr.
Thaw and It is an evidence of the efTect
upon the mind of Mr. Thaw of the state
ments so made, replied Mr. Delmas. "If
It were proper to admit the statement of
Air. xnaw after the shooting, 'he h
ruined my wife." " argued Mr. Delmas.
Is it not proper to admit a statement
made after the defendant had learned
facta, to show what the effect of them
was upon his mind?"
Mr. Delmas said that he did not have
his authorities at the moment. It was
then 12:25 o'clock, and Mr. Delmas asked
for an adjournment until 2 o'clock.
The oourtroom was crowded to its
utmost capacity this afternoon. Roger
O'Mara, head of a detective force em
ployed by the defense, had a lS-mlnute
conference with Mrs. Harry .Thaw during
the recess.
May Call Oleott as Witness.
Former Judge W. M. K. Oleott, who
was the first counsel engaged for Thaw
in his defense, appeared during the recess
and conferred with Mr. Garvan. He was
told that it was understood that Mrs.
Evelyn Thaw had mads a. statement In
regard to her relations with White and
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And OVERCOATS, ages 3 to
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with Thaw to Judge Oleott when the
trouble first came up. Judge Oleott was
asked to present the signed statement,
if It were in existence, or to be ready to
testify If he were wanted.
Mr. Delmas was about to renew his
argument for the production of the letter
of Harry Thaw to an attorney named
Longfellow just after the Paris incident,
when Mr. Jerome said he would withdraw
his objection. He first asked permission
to read the letter. It waa as follows:
Thaw's Letter About Girl.
Mr. N. insisted on sailing for New York
when her daughter left. I kept Mrs. N. in
London three months; cost over $1000. Mrs.
Nesblt sails tomorrow for New York. She
thinks I kidnaped her 17-year-old daugh
ter. Before she lands she will know that
I have always done the best I could. The
Child cannot be with her mother, because
when she was 15 years old she was ruined
by a blackguard. Don't worry, but find out
her address. Telephone Mrs. N., but not
in your name. Ask her if she raw Mr.
Thaw aboard. As soon as she answers,
hang up the phone.
On a Blip of paper enclosed was written:
"If you cannot read this, don't worry.
Please telephone her incog, and wire me
at my expense." The letter was signed,
"H. K. T."
Other Letter Excluded.
Mr. Delmas offered another letter
written by Mr. Thaw. Mr. Jerome
objected on the ground that there was
nothing to Indicate its date. Mr. Delmas
declared that the letter was admissible
as tending to -show a state of mind, re
gardless of when it was written.
"Suppose it should have been written
yesterday," suggested Justice Fitzgerald.
"I thins it would be admissible." re
plied Mr. Delmas.
"That the, defendant is now Insane?"
quickly interposed Mr. Jerome.
"TJrat he was Insane on the night of
June 26, 1906," said Mr. Delmas.
Justice Fitzgerald sustained the objec
tion. "If the claim is that the defendant is now
Insane, the letters are admissible," re
marked Mr. Jerome.
Mrs. Thaw was shown one of the let
ters and asked: "Was this letter writ
ten before or after June 25. 1906?"
Mr. Jerome objected on the ground that
Mr. Thaw wag not Qualified to express
an opinion. The court sustained the ob
jection. The subject of letters was then
White's Slanders on Thaw.
In response to questions by Mr. Delmas.
Mrs. Thaw described her return trip from
Europe in 1903, which preceded the re
turn of Mr. Thaw. She said that she
brought a letter from Thaw to Mr. I-ong-fellow.
which she delivered. She first
saw Thaw a month after his return at
the hotel where she was stopping. She
refused to see him alone, so another
man was present at the interview.
"The second man," asked Mr. Delmas,
"was a member of the bar; a man of
standing In the community, was he not?"
"What happened at this interview?"
"I sat oh a trunk. Mr. Thaw came
toward me and I asked the other man
not to leave the room. Mr. Thaw said
to me. "What Is the matter? Why don't
you want to see me any more?"
"I told him I had heard certain thlnirs
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rasp and tear the throat and
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We vubuab the formulas
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about him and did not care to see him.
He asked me what I had heard and I
said: 'I have been told that you took
a girl and put her In a bath-tub and
poured scalding water on her.' I also
told him I heard he took morphine."
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