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16 frHE HORNIXG- OREGOXIAN, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 1905. HIS STRONG DENIAL Dr. D. L Rader Says He Did Not Betray Confidence. DR. YOUNG'S SHARP WORDS Declares That Mrs. Hidden's Case, Which Disturbs Methodist Cir cles, Went to a Jury of Her Enemies. There is yet no end to the Vancouver Methodist Church row which resulted in the dismissal of Mrs. Maria L. T. Hidden from the church and the acquittal of Rev. Thomas E. Elliott, pastor of the Van couver M. E. Church, and Rev. C. A. Landen. Mrs. Hidden's strong letter of denunciation brought out a strong denial of "betrayed confidence" by Rev. D. L. Rader. editor of the Pacific Christian Ad vocate, and a very pointed interview from Rev. Frank L. Young, of the Central M. E. Church, of Portland, who acted as at torney for Mrs. Hidden at the recent trial of Rev. C. A. Landen at the conference held at Everett. Wash. Rev. Mr. Rader states that he never enjoyed Mrs. Hid den's confidence, hence he could not have betrayed it and "gone over to the enemy," as she charges him with having done. Since the cases against the Rev. T. E. Elliott and Rev. C. A. Landen were dis missed, it has been rumored that a member of the Oregon conference was behind the charges brought by Mrs. Hidden. In some quarters It has been hinted that this member was no other than Rev. F. L. Young, who conducted the prosecution of the case for Mrs. Hidden. In this connec tion it was rumored yesterday that be fore the Oregon conference, which begins today at Albany, ends. Rev. Mr. Young will be called upon to explain his activity in the Vancouver M. E. Church scandal. Rev. F. L. Young's Statement. Rev. Mr. Young's attention was called to the probability of his being called be fore the Oregon conference, and in dis cussing the case he said: "In The Oregonlan of September 16 ap pears an article from Everett, Wash., about the trials of Rev. C. A. Landen, presiding elder of Centralla district, and Rev. Thomas E. Elliott, pastor of the Vancouver M. E. Church, in which, among other things, it is said that someone con nected with the trial of Mrs. M. L. T. Hidden must be responsible for the charges brought against Mr. Landen and Mr. Elliott, and that this someone la thought to be a member of the Oregon Conference and will probably lose his po sition, and the name of Bishop McDowell is coupled with the threat, a thing for which Bishop McDowell of course is not responsible. The threat must lie against myself, as I am, so far as I know, the only one of Mrs. Hidden's counsel remain ing in the case until the final hearing be fore the bishop presiding in the Puget Sound annual conference. Talks of Bulldozing. "Bulldozing is the old-fashioned weapon of the bully. Capital was made out or what seemed to be the presenting of charges against Mr. Elliott at the con ference session, said to be an attempt to deprive him of an appointment at the con ference session. The truth of the matter is the charges against Mr. Elliott were placed In the hands of the presiding elder in the early part of July. The charges against Mr. Landen were an outgrowth of the trial of Mrs. Hidden, and could not be brought about until the time they were, and went only to his administration as an officer of the church in his conduct of the trial, and on the stand in his own trial he admitted the most important point in the bill of charges against him, that he with Thomas E. Elliott, pastor of Vancouver Church, an interested party, in the trial of Mrs. Hidden, did select a number of names, some 25 or more, from which Mr. Landen Instructed Rev. N. M. Temple, who presided at Mrs. Hidden's trial, to select a trial committee from whose hands she must receive her Judg ment. Anyone could secure a verdict of acquittal before any court in the land if he were allowed to select a Jury, or, on the other hand, the conviction of anyone before any court in the land could be se cured if his enemy were allowed to select a Jury. Acted us Counsel Only. "My connection with the trial of Mrs. Hidden has been only that of her coun selor. I never saw her until she was in troduced to me on the day that I agreed, to act as her counselor in the case. I have given her the best service possible. I do not know whether she has been a dis turber In the church or what the differ ence may have been between herself and Mr. Elliott, but I do know that If she were a near relative of his black majesty himself she would be entitled to fair and impartial trial. This has been denied her. For my acts in the case I have no fear, and covert threats do not in the least disturb me. If others who have been con nected with the case are meant by these threats they are no doubt able to tako care of themselves." Dr. Rader's Statement. Dr. D. L. Rader. editor of the Pacific Christian Advocate, had not read Mrs. Maria L. T. Hidden's charge until it was handed him by a reporter for The Ore gonlan. He was not at all disturbed by the charge of unfaithfulness lodged against him by Mrs. Hidden and dis missed her accusations as too trifling for1 serious consideration. "I am very sorry for Mrs. Hidden." he said. "I am sorry for anyone who has been driven from the church. I have not betrayed Mrs. Hidden's confidence. I never had It. She talked with me about her case and she asked me to act as her counsel, but there never was any confi dence such as would bo expected between lawyer and client. Mrs. Hidden wanted me to take her case, but I refused because I simply could not devote the time and labor that a case of such Importance called for. "It Is a great deal easier to defend a church case than to prosecute one. This, however, would have made no difference had I had the time. I did not agree to act as counsel for Dr. Landmen until he came , to me at Everett and stated that there was no one present at the Puget. Sound Conference that he could select to defend him but myself. Even Dr. Landen was not aware that he was to bo tried unjil notice was served on him Wednes day. I agreed to act as his counsel and It was not until after I had agreed that I received Mrs. Hidden's. telegram. In this connection I might say right here, that if Dr. Landeji had not gone on the stand and testified, answered all ques tions In regard to the charges made against him by Mrs. Hidden, there would have been no trial, for there were no witnesses or written evidence. Dr. Landen, however, was willing to take the stand and answer all questions and he made and Insisted upon making answers to questions to which I made objections." Alaska. I registered at th Hotel Blve dere. Mr. Powers is one of the Alaska mining kings and expects to remain In the city for some time. He is enthusiastic over the Lewis end Clark Exposition. Alex Donaldson, manager of the Beck ton Stock Farm, of Beckton, Wyo.. will arrive in the city tonight -with several carloads of Clvdesdal HTnlHnnn Phnrt horn cattle and Lincoln and Raraboulllet sheep for the live stock show at the Fair. Mr. Donaldson Is one of the best-known stockmen In the United States. CHICAGO. Sept. 19. (Special.) Ore gor.ians registered today nB follows: From Portland J. Eltelson, at the Morrison; A. T. Baldwin, at the Wind sor Clifton; Mrs. A. H. McDonald and son, at the Lexington. NEW YORK. Sc?pt. 19. (Special.) Northwestern ;ople registered at New York hotels today as. follows: From Portland O. Rittenberg. at the Cumberland; J. C. Falrllng. L. G. Fear, at the Murray Hill; W. G. Hatha way, at the Imperial; R. H. Handy, at the Hoffman. From Tacoma W. H. Fleet, at the Hotel Astor; A. E. Grafton, at the Bel-lalre. JOE DAY FURNISHES BJUL PUTS UP CASH FOR RELEASE OF ARRESTED MAX. PERSONALMENT!ON. C. E. Forster, district passenger agent of the Chicago & Northwestern Railway, at Boston. Mass., is a Portland visitor ac companied by Mrs. Forster. They accom panied the American Mission Board spe cial train to Seattle and will devote some davr. to doing the Exposition. Charles Powers, of the Rampart City Gpld Mine Company, . of Rampart City, Plain Violation of the Law WJiich Prohibits Employes of Police Department So Doing. Joe Day, who Is paid by the city to work in the capacity of a detective, lias been unable to unravel the mystery surround ing the murder of Mrs. Minnie B. Van Dran, but he was right there with the godfls yesterday afternoon when Police man Welch arrested a man for using what is said by the officer to be scandalous language. The prisoner lacked J2 of hav ing sufficient money to ball himself out, and Day put up the deficiency. E. B. Janes was the man under arrestr He applied vile language, it is charged, toward Policeman Welch, at Sixth and Alder streets, yesterday afternoon, be cause the officer asked him th nlnsn nut away portions of tin he was placing on the roof of the Wellington saloon before leaving the work for the night. Arriving at headauarters. Cantaln Ouln- lan fixed Janes' bail at 510. He had JS. and did some tclcDhonlnr in an effort to secure the remainder. As soon as Joe Day came in and learned of the predicament he put up the other J2. and Janes was released, to appear in the Municipal Court mis morning. The action of Joe Dav in a!:t Prisoner in ball was In rilrrt xHnlntlnn nf a rule of the notice denartment ns rrlntprt in the manuals carried by every officer. une of these was given to Day by the City of Portland, and as this is, perhaps, the most common matter of knoulorfir In nn. lice circles, it would appear that Day was iuiiy aware that he was breaking a rule, but that he held the rulein as great con tempt as he does the captains of police and the orders issued hv the hnnri nf ho department from time to time. For years, the cantalns have refused tn accept bail money from officers connected wun me aepartment. as this would be an act that would subject them to reproof. IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT Saloonkeeper Forfeits His Bail and Will Leave. Arrangements have bene made whereby W. A. Schue, accused by Sergeant of Po lice Slovor with selling liquor to Beulah Howerton, a minor. Is to forfeit ball of $50 In the Municipal Court and close up his establishment on Upshur street, near the Lewis and Clark Exposition grounds. He promises to leave the city and make no further trouble. The minimum fine, should the case have been fought and a conviction had, would be flW. The minor to whom liquor was sold, the court offi cials hold, is of such a character that it was felt to be perfectly Justifiable to rid the munclpality of Schue and accept his 550. Gottlelb Kuner was fined $25 for carry ing a concealed weapon, a revolver, loaded with powder and ball, the complainant being Henry Schultz. Both men are en gaged in an East Side bakery. 'Have you got the dough to pay your fine?" asked Deputy District Attorney Haney. of Kuner. "If he Hasn't, he can get a cake of yeast and raise it," said Clerk Hen nessey. "He'll (k)need it before he gets out," chipped in Bailiff Goltx. "I should think a man in his business would be better bread than to carry a gun, anyway." said Deputy City Attorney Fitzgerald. "This case certainly takes the cake," said Clerk Hennessey again. "I have heard more floury language during the hcatJng than has occurred here for a long time." "Proceed with the next case," sternly commanded Judge Cameron, who seemed to be absolutely inapprcciatlre-of the al leged puns. Kuner and Schultz had a little trouble, it appeared, and some others were going to assist Schultz, when Kuner produced the revolver, saying he purposed protect ing himself from assault. Charged with selling liquor to a minor, Tony Arnold, of Fourth and Davis streets, was before the court. Mr. Fitzgerald, how ever, was not ready to proceed, as some one, he said, had frightened the star wit ness away from the city. Who .did It, ha said, he did not know, but it was no one connected with the official life of the city; of that. Tie said, he was positive. "I am equally as positive It was.no one connected with Mr. Arnold," answered At torney John F. Logan. This constitutes a mystery .which may yet require the services of Headquarter Detective Vaughn, and his assistant, a man named Day. The case was continued indefinitely, as Mr. Fitzgerald said he had reason to be lieve the boy Is out In the hop fields, and that he would return before very long. It was reported at one tira that the lad had gone to some place in Idaho. This, it is believed, was done in order to discourage the prosecution. At this stage of the jroceedlngs the' sun came out from behind the pall of Oregon mist, and shone down notly and tirightly on several bald heads; Inciden tally, Its rays reflected rather too strongly in the eyes or certain legal lights. There fore. Bailiff Goltz took a hand. Goltz reached for the string and soucht to pull down the blind to shut out old Sol's rays, but the string, it developed, had In some manner yet to be determined by the detective staff, become wound about the roller and was not to be grasped by a man as short as the before-mentioned Goltz. ucihs ui mi iuciiuyo turn, vroiix ai-.l tempted a coup by manufacturer a sortv of hook, using two nails and some twine. This pull proved to be not sufficiently strong, "and the blind refused to come down. This served greatly to amusa those present, but from a reliable and promi nent citizen, it is learned that GoltsTJid not enjoy it. He finally got upon a chair and table to" accomplish his objec. , Charles White was sentenced to serve nine months In the County Jail for steal ing a watch from Joseph Riley. . Charles Meyers was held to the grand Jury on a serious charge, preferred by the father of a.younc rL "Portland Day" Sept. 30, Souvenir Tickets on Sale Here The Meier Frank Store Portland's Largest and Best Store Principal Portland Agents for Biitterick Patterns and Publications October Itelineator 15c Artistic Picture Framing to Yonr Order An Immense new line of Moldings Low Prices Peninsular" Stoves and Steel Ranges Best Line of Heating and Cooking Stoves Made NewMillinery Coming Daily Onr Millinery showing is being daily augmented by the newest and smartest headgear from Paris, London and New York But not only the new and smart bnt exclusive styles that will delight the women who are most fastidious about their millinery Magnificent Paris creations The largest display of high-grade imported models Portland has ever seen New "Burgesser," "Gage," "Bendel," "Fisk" and "Lichtenstein" Hats in unequaled variety Every new shape, trimming and effect; hats to please every fancy Misses' and children's millinery for school or dress wear New hats for little boys and girls New Baby bonnets Second Floor Bed Pillows 500 AT $1.10 EACH Great special offering of SJB goose feather pillows -weighing 3u pounds each, covered with blue and -white striped ticking. Thoroughly cold blasted and -well filled. The great est value for the money c rt we have ever offered.. . 1 1U Blankets and Comforters 'In all grades and at the lowest pflccs. Third Floor. Art Dept. Specials for Today Cushion Tops in Japanese designs on Japanese cloth, big variety to . select trom. Great special value at 19c Broken line of Dreiser Scarfs and Traycloths, extraordinary value to close them out quickly at. each , 21c Wash Cloth Holders, rubber lined, nice for traveling purposes. Special value at this low price 23C Mount Hood Souvenir Pillow Covers, ready for use 40c Complete stock of Carlson & Currier's famous Embroidery Silk, none bet ter, fast colors, every good shade In ail styles of silks. The most satisfac tory art embroidery silk on the market. Second floor. The Meier & Frank Store Sale of Women's Neckwear No excuse for the values below The season's prettiest Neckwear at prices we know you'll appreciate JNew Tatteta but btocKs, embroidered, m white, black and pastel shades; eyelet ef fects, with tabs; regular 50c values, on sale at this low price Heavy "White Linen Cuff and Turnover Sets, in Hardanger work and sheer linen, em broidered in mercerized cotton; Akr. light blue and white; 75c values. . ,4-C Fancy Yokes made of bias bands and feather stitching, also Val. lace and insertion, with stocks combined ; regular 35c and 5 50c values, on sale for C Black Cashmere Stocks, with double tabs; narrow white embroidery e turnovers 4&JC Silk Lace Braid Stocks, fancy designs, in navy, brown, A9 green, light blue, black and white: 75c value for 3Pft C Black Stole Ruffs trimmed in narrow liberty silk juby rucning ana accordion pleated ends; $3.U0 value. . iew enecis m Marioou ieatner .Boas and sets, in ff white, black, light blue and lavender; $4.50 to. vJ"v $1.89 35c and 40c Handkerchiefs for 25c 200 dozen women's Swiss embroidered, hemstitched and scalloped border Handkerchiefs. Immense assortment of patterns. Regular 35c and 40c values c on sale at the special price of....JOC -Few more thistle lawn Handkerchiefs, very dainty and pretty, unusual value afthis low price. each....&VC Lewis and Clark souvenir Handker chiefs of fine japonet and silk embroid ered. Regular 15c values on c eale for. each JC 10.C00 children's school Handkerchiefs, all pure linen, all initials. Regular 10c values on sale for, each.... .C New chiffon and crepe Ruching. all col ors. 25c value on sale today for 0 yard lOC Sole Portland Agents "Ostermoor" Elastic Felt Mattress "Peninsular" Stoves and Ranges in Basement Boys' School Clothing Can be supplied to best advantage here The largest stock for your choosing Most serviceable styles and materials as well as very lowest prices Second Floor Boys' School Suits, in dark tweeds, cheviots and cassimeres; double breasted coat; pants double seat and knee; ages 8 to 16 years; extra good value at $6 and $8.50 3035' Corduroy Knickerbocker Trous ers; ages 7 to 16 years; extra good quality at, pair $1.50 The IIercules" Rainproof Suits for boys, 8 to 15 years; gray and brown plaids and mixtures; full linen lined; greatest school suit value j (( on the market at .-..UVJ Corduroy Pants for school wear; 8 to 16 years; special values, at, -JPC- pair, 65 and Boys' all-wool 2-piece double-breasted Suits; brown and gray mixed tweeds and cassimeres; extra well made; ages 8 to 16 years; best fl o tr $5.00 suits on sale for OtOj Bo3s' all-wool School Suits; tweeds, cheviots and cassimeres; good, serviceable mixtures; ages 8 to 16 years; it regular $4.00 values, for f2 3 Bo3s' all-wool School Suits; dark, brown or gray, fC plaids and mixtures; ages 8 to 16 years.; great value. . P2UU Notions and Toilet Article Specials Gold Enamel, for nil kinds of decorative work; special ...IOC Okayed Toilet Paper, groat c . special value, dozen rolls... SjC Krecht Toilet Paper, pkg -Ic Turkish Bath Soap, cake ic Fancy Decorated Crepe Paper, -5 for lamp shades, etc IOC Wire Picture Hangers, large and small size, each lSc and 6c Postcard Albums, an unequaled a- ricty Sc to $3J)S Whisk Erooms. good Quality, . doublo sewed, each 1 vJC Sapolln Stovo Enamel, makes j , old pipes new, special IOC iTir triple extract Perfumes, all popular odors; special oi valuo at, oz oC Eastman's Sachets, special pkg.. 8c Gold Purses and" Handbags, in beau tiful variety. 75c up to $12.30 New Novelty Eton Suits $25.00 to $65.00 Each We are showing an unusually handsome assortment of new novelty eton suits for women Broadcloths and cheviots made up in the most attractive fashions for walking and dress wear, silk braids, button, and fancy vest effect, flare and kilt skirts, all the desirable shades including purple, brown, gray, red, navy, etc. Plain colors and mixtures Prices range from -$25 to $75 New long coat suits arriving daily Every new style in all the latest shades Let us show you Raincoats $10 to $25 Thousands of new Raincoats at popular prices A dis play unequaled anywhere All the best and most serv iceable styles in tans, Oxfords, olives and grays The ideal wet-weather garment that keeps growing in 'popu larity each season Hundreds of styles for your selec tion at S 10 to $25 High-grade Raincoats $25 to $50 Complete stock of Walking Skirts, in Panama cloths, cheviots, tweeds, cassimeres; this season's leading styles, in plain colors and mixtures; all grades, at prices ranging from $5.00 to $18.00 Misses' and Children's Coats, Dresses and Raincoats; satisfactory assortments, in all grades. Entire new stock of Infants' "White Coats. Leather Goods at Reduced Prices Women's Hand Bags with card case and coin purse, seal and -wal- , rus leathers, black, tan and brown. Best 11.50 values on sale for.. $1.29 Lewis and Clark Souvenir Hand Bags with coin purse-Best $1.00 value for this sale only at 79 C Lewis and Clark Souvenir Coin Purses and Match Cases In big variety. . great special values at. each I2c Lewis and Clark Souvenir Card Cases, 25c values, each i?c Patent leather Hand Bags, fitted with coin purse. Regular $1.00 values -on sale at this low price 69c Silk Belts in all colors and sizes 50c, 65c values ...43c Souvenirs Lewis and Clark, Portland and Ore gon souvenirs In great assortment. Every new. pretty, attractive idea in metal, wood. leather and silver, and at the very lowest prices. Souvenir spoons In wonderful array. All sizes and grades. Souvenir china and silverware in the basement. View Books in all sizes, Exposition views, Portland views, Oregon views, Northwest views, Souvenir pictures. Second floor. Special Valnes m Table Linens 72-inch Bleached Satin Damask Table Linens; very large va riety of new designs; three great special values, at, the yard, $1, $1.25 J 39 Hemstitched Satin Damask Tea Cloths; 36x36 inch; regular $1.25 value, for, each. . .98d Hemstitched Satin Damask Table Cloths; 2x2 yards, S1.38 each; 2x2V. yards, $1.68; 2x3 CI QQ yards, each V 3 High-grade Hemstitched Satin , XT , . Damask Table Sets; cloth and 1 doz Napkins to match; $10.00 values, S8.45 set; $12.50 values, $9.95 set; $15.00 values S11.45 set;ff. u ns $20.00 values, set fy i D Complete stock of John S. Brown & Sons' ''Shamrock" and Wm. Liddell s famous "Gold Medal"" Table Linens; the best the world produces; superior linens; superior values. 100 dozen Linen Towels; good sizes; regular 35c and 40c values, on sale at this low price, each dOC All our 25c grades of Linen Towels for. each 19 Famous "Rubdry" Bath Towels; three grades, 50T5f $1 Piaid Silks at 69c Yard fhoeryaVd0 .ff. .a.V.?!?!,-1.a. .Tf ; .?f!3!!,.c.c. 5?f . ... . .69C Handsome new Plaid Wool Dress Goods for walste and VhlVtwaist suits: th? St? lmyardC..: . tyU; larscst an,d best 1,ne ln $1 QO NeiV!iY Sj?"!?. f,or fi.uI.tIns: brown. "tan. 'gVc'en black." castor.-'M red, Alice blue, etc.; special good valuo at, yard .1.00 ."S h-Rrade Dr,e". Materials, In plum, purple, tans, grays and ZL2?ia.sJ??$?B' b50!11cltfc. cheviots, prunella. New black goSds In tne newest weaves and all grades. Groceries Sample Prices Quaker Puffed Rice 10 2 pkgs. H. 0. Oatmeal for 25 Postum or Fig-Prune Cereal... 20 2 pkgs. Grape-Nuts 25 1-lb. frame New Comb Honey 15 id 6 pkgs. Domino Matches 25 6 pkgs. Press Matches 25 2 cakes Bon Ami for 25 Daisy Brand Summer Sausage 30 3 pkgs Seeded Raisins..... ...25 2 pkgs. Graham Crackers 25 Quart Cooper's Olive Oil.... $1.00 3 pkgs. Saratoga Chips 25 2 jars McLaren's Cheese 25 Victor Flour, none better. . . .$1.25 Royal Baking powder 40 Schilling's Baking Powder. .. .40 1 lb. Libby's Sliced Beef 25 2 cans Veal or Ham Loaf 25 1-lb. can Lunch Tongue 35 p 3 cans Van Camp's Soups 25p 11 cakes Standard Soap 25 Shrimps, 1 and 2-lb. cans 10, 20 3 cans Pioneer Cram 25 2 pkgs. Knox Gelatine 25 18 pounds Granulated Sugar $1.00 Olympic Pastry Flour 20 2 cans Libby's Chipped Beef. ..25 25-oz. can K.i C. Baking Powder 20 1 box No. 1 Macaroni for 40 1-lb. can Ground Chocolate.... 25 Basement Phone Private Exchange No. 4 $2.50 Three-Fold Screens at $1.8? Special lot of 100 three-fold Oak Screens, tilled with silkoline, separate rod for shirring In Ail ing. Very best patterns and col orings. Regular 32.50 e ny values for ?ltO 200 oak Fire Screens, filled with pretty silkoline. Regular $1.50 values on sale at this extra- Qa ordinarily low price OzrC Another great lot of India Stools, golden oak. The best $1.25 values on sale at the low price of. ..SOc Custom shade and drapery work our specialty. Best material and workmanship; lowest prices guar anteed. Let us figure on any work you may have. Beautiful new tap estry and drapery materials Just received. Men's Fall Golf Shirts for 69c Each 100 dozen of men's new Oxford and Madras Golf Shirts in light and dark patterns, stripes, dots and figures, separate or attached cuffs, all new patterns and colorings; the greatest values we AOr ever offered at this exceptionally low price O-rC Men's Fall weight natural wool Underwear, soft and well made through out, all sizes shirts and drawers; the quality sold all over fi 1 town at $1.25 garment, our price for this sale is r Men's extra quality Flannelette Nightshirts, made full size and extra long, all new patterns; best value of the season at 69 New line of Boys' Golf Shirts in light and dark patterns, two "1Q collars to match; 50c values at this low price -3C Madras Curtains at One-Half Price Odd pairs of striped Madras Curtains; light and dark grounds; very best colorings and combinations; selling ff. regularly from $2 to $4.50 & pair iiaJI"Jr riCe $2.50 Renaissance Lace Curtains; white or Arabian, in the very best designs; 2 yards long, 45 inches wide; great ori special values today at this low price v I .O-r 40c Oriental Striped Tapestry; 50 inches wide; suitable for couch covers and draperies ; big variety of patterns and color ings; value extraordinary at this low pricey yard 4Sr?G 8000 'yards of dotted, figured and stripe Swiss ; 36 inches wide j best 15c quality; on sale for a few day3 at, yard. 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