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THE H01?NI2Jj&0BE.G0TIANt. TUESDAY JANUARY 24t 1905.
Common Sense Takes
Place of Oratory.
WILL LET SOUTH ALONE
Conservative Southern Men
Reason With Roosevelt
AND HE REASONS WltH THEM
Result Is General Agreement to
Shelve Bills to Reduce Repre
sentation and Let White
Race Rule South.
OREGONIAN NEWS BUREAU, Wash
ington, Jan. -3. The Southern men are
not so cantankerous in their opposition
to the President as formerly. The
present session of Congress has seen
these men smooth down somewhat.
From the time the President support
ed the postmaster at Indianola, Miss.,
and Dr. Crum at Charleston, the South
ern Senators and members of the
House have devoted themselves to vi
tuperative attacks upon Mr. Roosevelt.
As a matter of fact. It was not because
the President appointed negroes to of
fice or supported such negroes as he
had appointed. It was because he had
committed what Southern men claim
was the greatest social breach of the
age, sitting at table with Booker T.
Washington, the most enlightened ne
gro of the present time.
While, these Southern men have not
been observed at many official func
tions, a number of them have frequent
ly gone to the White House and con
sulted with the President on public
matters. Some of them have gone not
only to his office, but to his private
residence, where they have spent hours
In conversing with him upon this very
subject of race conditions in the South,
advising with' him as to the best meth
od of handling the conditions these.
and talking over the subject frankly
and falWy. Of course,, this does not
apply to Tillman and some of the other
violent hotheads -who have made the
Congressional halls ring svith their
fierce denunciation, but to the moder
ate Senators, who have concluded that
It would bo better to conduct them
selves with a degree of decency toward
i.ne uniei .executive, and u he was.
wrong, to convince him of It, and If he
was right, sustain him.
Only for Political Effect.
It seems to be apparent that the race
issue was. raised during the last ses
sion of Congress for political effect,
for there has been mighty litle heard
about It since the election. Occasion
ally there have been allusions in the
Congressional debates, but they have
been so very mild as to indicate that
the Southerners have concluded that it
was not worth while to pursue the
President because he has stood up for
the colored man in the South. The
further effect of the elimination of the
negro question as a political issue,
which the Southern Democrats make
for political purposes beyond question.
has been that there Is now a better
feeling on the subject, and there is
little talk of pursuing the race ques
tlon in any direction. The Presidential
election being over, we do not hear
anything more from the Southerners
about being overridden by the negro
vote. As the Southerners stop discuss
ing this subject, 'we hear loss about
the damage that Roosevelt has done to
the whites of the South. In all prob
ability nothing will be done by those
who have wanted the negro question
investigated, nor will cither Senato or
House take up the resolutions that
have been introduced looking to a re
duction of Southern .-epresentative be
cause the negroes of the South have
been disfranchised. One reason why
nothing of this kind will be done is
because the Republicans recognize that
it would be futile, but. more than that,
they believe that the best results will
be obtained by abstaining from at
tempted Interference with Southern
Will Control South.
Aside from a very few violent parti
sans, it has come to be recognized that
the white people of the South will con
trol the South. This fact having been
deeply impressed upon the people,
there is no sentiment behind the at
tempt to secure universal suffrage for
the negro. It is well understood that
the weapon of reduction of representa
tion would quickly be mot by wiping
out those laws that prevent negroes
from voting and resorting to the old
shotgun methods and fraudulent means
of preventing negroes from voting in
state elections. The rapid development
of the South under existing conditions
is a guarantee that it is better to leave
these people alone and not attempt to
force negro government upon them,
and that politically the country will be
better off to allow tho problem, to be
worked out as Is now being done.
No one can say that President Roose
velt has come to this way of thinking,
or that Southern Senators and Repre
sentatives of the more conservative
Etrlpe who have been talking the sub
ject over with him have convinced him.
But it would not be strange thai a man
of his characteristics and tempera
ment, willing to listen to those who
have knowledge on public questions,
would be Impressed by what was said.
Violent and Intemporate denunciation
of the President's course or of the ne
groes as a face would be more apt to
have the opposite effect upon the
President: he would be more apt than
ever to champion the cause of what he
regarded as a downtrodden, people.
But when Southern men of good stand
ing talk the matter over with him per
sonally In temperate language, and
show the cxactvcondltions. Jt is more
than probable that tho President would
be impressed. At all events y;t axe
having less of the race.' issue now than
we have had . at any., time since . Roose
velt became President.
WITH PINCHOT AT THE HEAD.
Both Houses Pass Bill Concentrating
Forest Reserve Service.
OREGONIAN NEWS BUREAU, Wash
ington. Jan. 23. Both the Senate ana-
House have passed a- bill transferring tne
administration and control of forest re
serves to the Department of "Agriculture.
The bill first passed the House, was
amended and passed the Senate. When
the two houses compromise their differ
ences and agree upon a common bill, it
will be sent to the President for signa
This measure Is Intended to place forest
reserves under the control of Gifford Pln
chot, Chief of the Forestry Bureau. It
Is Intended to concentrate under 'one man
the various branches of the service which
have to do with forest management. At
present there is no one in absolute charge
of forest reserves; authority is divided
among the Secretary of the Interior, Sec
retary of Agriculture, Commissioner of
the General Land Office. Director of the
Geological Survey and Chief of the For
estry Bureau. Each officer has his own
force of employes, each has his own ideas
of how the reserves ought to be managed
and each proceeds to act as he deems
proper. Naturally there has been mucn
confusion, much duplication of work, and
general condition of chaos has resulted.
It is to cure this deplorable condition and
to bring about an intelligent and system
atic administration of the vast forest re
serve system that the bill in question has
Mr. Plnchot is fully competent to as
sume this great responsibility and bring
to bear not only his technical but his
practical knowledge of the forests and
forest conditions of the United States.
Mr. Plnchot has Ideas of his own which
in many respects differ from ideas that
have been carried out under the old sys
tem; and once he gains control, there is
promise of many radical reforms, which
will do away with a great deal of opposi
tion that is still manifest to the Govern
ment's forestry policy.
HE HAS TOLD IT ALL
Senator Smoot Completes
Testimony to Committee.
Mormon Apostles May Get Them as
Well as President Modern Gift
of Prophecy, Church' In
vestments In Business.
WILL SUPPORT DAVEY BILL.
Democratic House Caucus Acts
Railroad Rate Question.
WASHINGTON, Jan. 23.-At a caucus
tonight attended by about 133 of the mi
nority members of the House, a resolu
tion was agreed to by nearly a unanimous
vote to support the bill Introduced by
Representative Davey, of Louisiana, ex
tending authority to the Interstate Com
merce Commission to fix railroad rates.
The resolution reads:
"Resolved, That we hereby express our
approval of the provision of House reso
lution 177S6 (the Davey bill)."
The Davey bill was agreed on by the
minority members of the committee on
Interstate and Foreign Commerce. It is
very short, providing only that when the
commission shall find, after due hearing,
a rate to be unreasonable, it shall name a
reasonable rate In Its place; that this
rate shall go Into effect after 20 days'
notice and shall remain in effect until
set aside by a competent court of review;
and that the case may be tried In any
court taking Jurisdiction upon the facts
and testimony adduced before the commission.
The caucus did not undertake to deal
with any but the rate-making phase of
the transportation problem. The resolu
tion adopted was presented to the caucus
by Representative Williams, the minority
leader. Many speeches were made on
Ralncy of Illinois, represented a mi
nority In the caucus favoring the Hearst
bill or some modification thereof. He
was jglven control of the time on that
side. Cochran of Missouri was the prin
cipal speaker on the side championing the
Hearst bill or some modification tnereor.
All substitute resolutions were voted
down before the adoption of the Williams
resolution, which stands as the caucus
Want Roosevelt to Sue Morton.
WASHINGTON. Jan. 23. Representative
Baker, of New York, today Introduced a J
measure directed at secretary Morton and
reouestlng the President to bring suit
against Paul Morton and J. C. Stubbs for
entering into a contract m restraint or
Powell Will Be Confirmed.
WASHINGTON, Jan. 23. The judiciary
committee today favorably reported tne
nomination of T. C. Powell, of Portland.
to be Marshal at Nome, Alaska. The
nomination probably will bo confirmed at
the next executive session of tne faenate.
New Minister to Denmark.
GRAND RAPIDS. Mich., Jan. 23. T.
J. O'Brien, an attorney of this city, has
accepted an offer by President Roose
velt to appoint him Minister to Denmark.
WASHINGTON. Jan. 23. The Senate
investigation Into the protest of Senator
Reed Smoot will be concluded this week.
The cross-examination of the respondent
terminated earlier than expected, and
several other witnesses for the defense
were examined. It was announced Just
before adjournment of the committee on
privileges and elections that only a few
wore witnesses would be put on the stand.
Except for 'some documentary evidence,
the Investigation may conclude tomorrow.
Chairman Burrows remarked that It was
necessary to get through with the argu
ments also this week, as Mr. Tayler.
counsel for the protestants, will assume
his duties as Federal Judge in Ohio Tues
The cross-examination of Mr. Smoot resulted-
in absolute refusal to testify In
regard to the endowment ceremonies. He
also asserted that it was not his business
to call to account President Smith, of the
Mormon Church, because Mr. Smith had
admitted to the committee that he was
living in violation of the laws of the land.
Three other witnesses refused to divulge
the character of the endowment cere
mony. Relative to the trial of Apostle Moses
Thatcher, following his differences with
the church over politics. Senator Smoot
said he would not want to say that poli
tics was the principal cause of differences
between Thatcher and the church. He ad
mitted that it was one of the reasons for
the trial. Judge Tayler asked If the fight
against Thatcher was not led by the
church, and the witness replied that the
Des'eret News, the church organ, chargedJ
that Thatchers crndidacy was anti
church. Judge Tayler took "up the political
manifesto, or the rule which required of
ficials of the church to obtain leave of ab
sence, which Apostle Thatcher had disap
proved and which he refused to obey. As
it was read, clause by clause. Mr. Smoot
Indorsed the statements made by Thatcher
in that connection.
Judge Tayler asked if Mr. Smoot saw
any criticism in the statements of Moses-
Thatcher that the church was getting out
of its proper function In Interfering in
functions of the state.
"I do not think there was any charge
that the church was trying to Influence
the action of the Legislature." answered
Mr. Smoot. "That would be wrong and
Who Has Spirit of Prophecy7
"The first presidency Is supreme In ev
erything pertaining to the church." said
Mr. Smoot. In answer to a question by
Chairman Burrows. He also said in ex
planation, "of course, w.hen It comes to a
question of revelation that Is to be bind
ing upon the people of the church the
president himself receives It and It must
be accepted by the people."
"Do I understand you to say that the
apostles are not prophets" asked Chair
"I ay they are sustained a prophets,
but I do not think a -man Is a prophet at
any time unless he speaks by the spirit of
prophecy. In other words, I do not be
lieve that a man always has that spirit
of prophecy with him."
"Do j'ou think the president of the
church communicated directly with God
has direct relations?"
"If God desires to speak to such people
It would be through the president of the
"Does God speak through tho apostles
in the same way?"
"Oh, not in the same way. An apostle
has no more authority in a stake of ZIon
than Its president has, unless sent by the
head of the church to act In the stead of
the stake president"
In answering a question as to his belief
in modern prophecy, Mr. Smoot said:
"Men speaking today under the Inspira
tion of the Lord their counsel is Just as
good as that of the prophets that spoke
under inspiration In ancient days."
Senator Burrows Interrogated Mr. Smoot
regarding the details of the endowment
ceremony and asked him to state what he
was able to Tecall of It
"I would very much prefer not to."
"For conscientious reasons. 1 made a
vow, not an oath, with my God, not with
Now is '
If you want a piano at a big re
duction now is your opportunity.
Every piano in stock is placed on the
sacrifice list. This means a saving to
you of about $100 and you cau buy it
on our easy-payment plan which is so
popular with the people Here are
the prices: '
$500 Pianos now 418
$450 Pianos now $386
$400 Pianos now S324
$375 Pianos now $286
$350 Pianos now! $268
$300 Pianos now $238'
We have also some discontinued
styles, some slightly used and second
hand pianos, all in first-class condi
tion, that we will close out at prices
ranging from $150 up at $6, $8 and
$10 per month. If you are in need of
a piano you cannot afford to let this
splendid opportunity pass. We also
handle the Packard, Estey and
Chicago Cottage Organs. You can
buy one cheap this month.
FIRST AGENTS FOR BUTTERICK PATTERNS AND THE DE1INIATOR
ALLEN & GILBERT-
Corner Sixth and Morrison.
any man, not with the president of the
church or with a living soul, but I did
make a vow that I would keep these en
dowment ceremonies sacred and not re
veal them to anybody, and I have kept
that all my life and, if I went out of the
church tomorrow and remained out of the
church until I was gray-headed I would
never feel that it was my duty or that" I
should divulge what little I even remember
"Do you know why the oath of secrecy
"It is purely a religious ordinance re
fers absolutely to a man's hereafter and
has nothing whatever, to do with anything
other than man's relation to his God. and
I suppose that It is an ordinance of the
church, and the rule Is that it be not re
"Do you know how much money Is paid
Into the church annually In tlthc3?" asked
I could not ay. eicpt as a guess."
"As inuch ab a million dollars?"
"Some years more'and some years less.
How Is this money expended?"
"Well, there Is about $140,000 for educa
tional Interests, about $100,000 for the feed
ing of the poor, a great deal for the ex
penses of missionaries "
At this point Senator Overman inter
rupted, say In k that all he wanted was in
formation as to the extent of-the church
Investments in industrial and commercial
Church a Minority Stockholder.
"The church has some money so invest
cd, but a small per cent of the capital of
these institutions." said Mr. Smoot He
then gave a detailed statement of the
stock held by the church in various instl
tutions, said to be controlled by the
church, to show that In nearly every case
the church holds a minority of such stock.
Judge Taylor announced then that his
cross-examination was concluded.
Chairman Burrows then inquired of the
"la there any method oy which the
president of the church, may be depced?"
"If he should engage In any unchris-
tianllkc act that would unfit him for his
place, he could be tried, the same as any
CENTRAL DISTRICTS OF ST. PETERSBURG. WHERE THE RIOTING TOOK FLACK.
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Pyrography in All Its Branches
Taught Free in Our Art Depart
Beginning this morning we will give free instruction in all the branches of the
Pyrographic Art. Competent teachers will show you how to burn on wood and leather,
how to use stains and how to do applique work. To make the initiation into the art
inexpensive we offer special values in outfits and materials.
Our regular $3.50 outfits, special .$2.80
Our regular $2.50 outfits, special ..$2.00
Our regular 39c stamped boxes, special; '. ...31
Our regular 15c stamped placques, special 12
Our regular $1.00 stamped placques. .79
Our regular $2.50 stamped tabourettes,- special.... $2.15"
Our regular 75c Christy head placques .59
Fine Dress Goods Were Never So Low
Never before were circumstances so favorable for you as right now. Prices are the lowest ever
quoted for like qualities, and in addition you can have your garments cut and fitted free by Miller &
Miller, the New York experts, whose clever work is the marvel of all beholders.
Cream Dress Goods
Aff r For figured brilliant
ines. mohair, armures,
ill-wool henriettas and crepe
Egyptas, 38 inches and 40 inches
wide that sold always at 65c.
fQkn For all-wool voiles,
7" mohair, brilliantines,
crepe Egyptas, etamines and
mistrals 44 inches to 50 inches
wide, that sold for $1.00.
ORi For dotted Sicilian,
-rv" mohair Sicilians, all
wool henriettas and voiles, gran
ites and sangliers 44 inches to
4S inches wide, that sold at $1.25
CSxyt Qn MUSIC SALE
vUJ. continues with
unabated vigor. You need have
no fear when 3ou come here at
S:30 A. M. of being told that
everything is sold out. This sale
is organized on the lines pecul
iar to this house a little old
fashioned, maybe, but we always
have what we advertise, and
plenty of it.
$1.22 for $1.50 Cravenette in
Oxford gray only the gen
uine Priestley make.
$1.67 for Cravenette Coverts,
in olive brown and Oxford
gray 5S inches wide.
$1.87 for $2.25 Cravenettes,
medium weight, in all colors
$2.29 for $2.75 Cravenettes,
full line of colors Priest
ley's make, CO inches wide.
$2.48 for $3.00 Cravenettes,
plaids, black, brown and gray
, Priestley's make.
$3.33 for $4.00 Cravenettes,
silk and weol, olive, tan and
Oxford Priestley's make.
Black Dress Goods
OQi For all-wool cheviots,
J7' storm serges, figured
English mohairs and crepe alba
tross 38 inches and 40 inches
wide j sold always at 50c to 75c
QQp For black unfinished
crepe, silk and wool crepe de
Paris, mohair, novelties, etc.
40 inches to 54 inches wide; sold
always at $1.00 to $1.50.
21 2 O Imported mohair,
?d& prunellas, English
broadcloths, mohair, melrose,
mohair Sicilians and brilliant
ines 44 inches to 54 inches
wide; sold always at $1.50 to
A Great Suit Sale
Women's tailor-made Suits can now be bought at the
minimum outlay of money. Thoughts of profitmalring
or even obtaining cost are cast aside in the endeavor to
clean the racks and tables. The indicated reductions are
actual ones Nothing marked up from regular prices in
order to have things look cheaper in the paper.
$20 to $27.50 Tailor-Made Suits at $13.50
$30.00 to $35.00 Tailor-Made Suits at $17.50
$37.50 to $45.00 Tailor-Made Suits at $21.50
Curtains and Curtain Materials
Very Special !
75c to $1 Madras, this week at $ .30
90c to $1.25 Silk Stripe Madras, this
week at ?
$2.50 Art Madras on sale this week
at . $1.00
$1.50 to $2.10 Scotch Madras, this
week at- 5 -03
25c Art Ticking and Cretonnes, this
week at 5 .12
The $1.00 Tapestry Goods, this week.? .30
The $1.50 Tapestry Goods, this week. .75
The $m.00 Tapestry Goods, this week. 91.00
Scotch Lace Curtains
. . . .91.88
. . . .92.70
Couch Covers Very Low
Oriental Tapestry Couch Covers, three
yards lone and CO inches wide:
The $5.00 quality, this week at 93.05
The $6.00 quality, this week at 94.05
The $7.00 quality, this week at 954)5
other member of the church, and, if found '
guilty, he may be removed. 1
Will Not Prosecute Smith. I
You heard the testimony of President !
Smith, that he is living in defiance of the
laws of the land?
"And that he Is also living in defiance of
the divine law?"
"Yes. sir; and I heard the qualifications
"Has the church proceeded against him
because of his violation of the laws?"
"It has not."
"Has there been any attempt to try him !
because he Is living In polygamous cohab
itation?" "There has not."
"Did you sec him after he testified be
fore this committee?"
The Senator said he had seen the presi
dent of the church both In Washington
and Utah after his testimony, and had
made no protest to him concerning his
manner of living.
"You have not sought to bring him to
trial In any manner?" asked the chair
man. "I have not."
Do you intend to?"
"I do not."
"How many children do you understand
President Smith has had since the mani
festo?" "Eleven. J believe."
"With full knowledge of his testimony,
you voted to sustain him at the confer
ence last October?"
"Have you resigned your position as an
apostle of the church?"
"I have not."
"Do you Intend to continue sustaining
Smith In his commission of crimes against
the law of the land?"
Mr. Smoot said that he' was "not sustain
ing Smith except as president of the
church, and that It was not his duty as an
officer of the law or as a citizen of Provo
to bring action against Smith, a citizen
of Salt lake City.
Mr. Burrows began the afternoon ses
sion by asking Mr. Smoot if he was at
liberty to resign his apostleshlp at any
time, to which an affirmative answer was
Does Not Teach Polygamy.
Pursuing his inquiry. Chairman Bur
rows asked if Mr. Smoot taught and
preached his faith. He did occasionally.
"Do you teach polygamy?"
"I do not"
"Do you v reach against polygamy or
"I never have. I don't know why I
should.' It Is not a tenet of the faith. It
has been suspended, and I think It would
not be proper for me to bring It up."
The chairman Inquired concerning the
uncertainty of the interpretation of the
manifesto, as to whether it applied to
both plural marriages and polygamous co
habitation. Mr. Smoot said the people were
unccrtata.but that President "Woodruff had
Interpreted It as prohibiting polygamous
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cohabitation. He said he understood that
the revelation commanding the promulga
tion of the manifesto against polygamy
was the result of pleadings by President
Woodruff for the command of God con
cerning his wishes on that subject.
On re-direct examination Mr. Smoot
said he believes the church requires offi
cials to obtain leave? of absence to en
gage In business, politics or anything
else which might take them away from
their church work, and. is not confined to
This concluded the examination of Mr.
Revelation About Stock Deal.
Owen T. Stowell. of Brigham City, sec
ond councilor to Stake President Kelley,
said that Kelley did not claim to have a
divine revelation directing him to acquire
1000 shares of electric light company stock
as had been alleged by other witnesses.
On cross-examination Stowell admitted
that the high council of the church met
with the city council and the light com
pany at the offices of the high council.
He declined to answer concerning the en
J. TJ. Edrldge. County Clerk for Salt
Lake County, testified that H. S. Tanner
was defeated for Judge by Mormon votes
because of his circulation of a rumor that
he had taken several wives since the
GENERAL BEATEN TO DEATH.
Drags Him From Sleigh
Tramples on Him.
ST. PETERSBURG. Jan. 23. Among
the authenticated horrors of yesterday
Is the case of an aged General, whose
sledgo was stopped by the Infuriated
people as he was driving In the direc
tion of the troops. "Are you going to
order them to fire on us?" yejHed the
crowd. The General ordered his coach
man to drive on, when he was instantly
struck on the head by a well-dressed
individual in a sable fur coat. The
General was then thrown out of the
sledge, beaten and trampled to death.
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