THE MORNING OREGONIAN, MONDAY,, JANUARY 21, 1901.' TONGUETOCUSHMAN His Reply to Latter's Attack on River and Harbor Bill. OREGON NOT UNDULY FAVORED TheColumbIa River Appropriation as Much If Not More for Wasn- Jngton's Interests Tnnn for Oregon's." WASHINGTON. Jan. 16. The following Is the full- text of Representative Tongue's reply to Mr. Cushman's speech on the river and harbor bill, embracing his own defense -of the bill and the Co lumbia River appropriations: "Mr. Chairman, it Is not my original purpose to address tha House upon the ppnding bill. I should not do so now. but for the strange statements and extraor dinary mis-takes occurring In the remarks of the gentleman from Wasuington. I listened to his speech, and am sure other members of the House did, with great In terest and with great enjoyment. " My pleasure at the exuberance and brilliancy of the wit was only equaled by my aston ishment at the extravagance of its mis statements. As a production of amusing fiction, it was certainly unique. When at tempting to deal with sober reality it Is remarkable, chiefly for the great num ber of facts it contains that are not so. Had the gentleman laid aside his Jesting for a few minutes and condescended to answer plain questions that might have corrected some of his mistakes and ex plained others: had he devoted one-fourth, of the time In the preparation of facts for the Information of the House that he had in preparing jests for Its enter tainment; had he consulted the reports of the engineers with anything like the assiduity he consulted ancient editions of classic Joke books. It would not have been necessary for me to reply to his re marks, and I certainly should not have desired to do so. "For something like an hour and a quarter the gentleman furnished the House with a great deal of amusement, but with a remarkable small amount of instruction. It was not shown, nor did he attempt to show that this bill con tains a single appropriation for a river or harbor that is not meritorious, or which ought not to be made. He has not fur nished us with a single fact or reason or argument to show why an appropriation should be made for a single river or har bor not included in this bill. The gentle man's speech was chiefly a complaint against the plan of the universe and the handiwork of Its Creator. It Is a com plaint that harbors and the mouths of rivers are located upon the sea coast and the shores of the Great Lakes. It is a complaint that "North Dakota was' not located upon the Gulf of Mexico, or Colo rado upon the shores of Lake Michigan. so that they might have rivers and har bors worthy of Improvement. "To complain that Illinois receives more appropriation under this bill than Iowa Is to overlook the fact that the commerce of Iowa Is proviaed for by deepening the harbors of the Great Lakes. The com merce, not only of Illinois, but of Iowa, Nebraska, Wyoming, Idaho, Nevada, Cclo rado and a large portion of the commerce from that vast territory stretching from Wisconsin to the shores of the Pacific, including the state which the gentleman in part represents, flows outward to find a market through the harbors of the great City of Chicago. When the gentleman would defeat this bill, and obstruct those Improvements, which have been listed under tne name of Michigan, he would paralyze the commerce of the entire northern portion of the United States, In cluding that of the State of Washington. A very large portion of the commerce that traverses the rivers and canals, the Improvement of which are listed under the State of Michigan, passes through Michi gan without stopping there, is furnished by the two " great continental railroads that have their termini in the State of Washington. Hostility to these improve ments obstructs access to markets for the production of that vast territory through which runs, wlt.h Its feeders, the Great Nortlrern Railroad, which terminates at Seattle. In the gentleman's own state, and is doing more to build up the commerce of the City o: Seattle and the State of WasWngtor thin any other force in exist ence. Hostility to these Improvements is hostility to every settlement through, which runs the Northern Pacific, the great railroad, whose chief terminus is the city in which the gentleman resides, the city which owes its birth and growth and present greatness to the fostering care of the Northern Pacific Railroad. "The complaint against the appropria tion for the City of New York is well answered by the statement of the gentle man from New York, Mr. Alexander, that the exports and Imports passing through that great cltv are more than double the export and Import.! of the 2S states that are not represented on the river and har bor committee. But these exports and im ports are not for New York alone. The great streams of commerce that rour their treasure Into the harbors of New York are formed and filled by rivulets having their sources In every hamlet. In every home. In every camp. In every por tion of the land, from the Atlantic to the Pa-eiflc. from the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico. It Is the commerce of our entire country. There Is not a woodman In any forest, a plowman In any valley, a herder upon any plain, who does not with every stroke of the ax, with the turning of every furrow, at every move ment of his camp, contribute something to build up the great wealth of commerce that slows through the harbor of this metropolis of the United States. We can not by one stroke, in any one way, bet Snake River, the navigable portion of which Is wholly within the States of Washington and Idaho. This leaves only tire sum of $166,500 to be expended wholly within the State of Oregon. "Let me call your attention to the fact that the Columbia River forms a part of the boundary between the State of Ore gon and the State of Washington; that It Is nowhere, even for one foot of Its length, wholly within the State of Ore gon; that it forms the northern bound ary of Oregon, five-sevenths of the dis tance across the state. It then passes entirely within the State of Washington, and extends hundreds of miles. The Snake River, that forms a part of this system of improvement, runs partly through Idaho, then entirely In the State of Washington. There Is one navigable river enters the Columbia River from Oregon. Four navigable rivers enter the Columbia River from Washington, all four of which receive appropriations un der this bill, emptying Into the Columbia River within the State of Washington. Wherever Oregon Is along the south bank of the river, Washington Is on the north bank. For some hundreds of miles Wash ington Is on both banks of the river. 'There is three times as much of Wash ington than of Oregon adjacent to the Columbia River, tributary to the Colum bia River, and whose products are within easy reach of the Columbia River. It Is true, and In this particular the State of Washington is extremely fortunate, it has otfrer outlets for Its commerce to the sea. The products of the northern portion of the state find an outlet through the wat ers of Puget Sound. But there Is still a very large portion of the state, a product ive portion of the state, a portion of the state embracing millions of acres of the finest wheat fields in the world, that has no other convenient outlet, except down the Columbia River. There Is a large por tion of territory whose only railroad fa cilities are railroads that transfer" their produce down the Columbia River to the sea. The Columbia and "Washington. "I have here a picture that may Interest the gentleman from Washington, clipped from the leading paper of the North west, and which I received yesterday, presenting in a very striking light the In terests that some of the constituents of the gentleman have In the 'Improvement of that river. It represents 70,000 sacks of wheat at Columbus, on the Columbia River, In Klickitat County, within, the Stats of Washington waiting for trans portation upon a ferry, to be carried to the railroad on the south side of the river, to be shipped down the river and find its way. out to the sea. This one county of that state sends annually across and down the Columbia River 850, 000 bushels of wheat, which has no other way of access to market, by steamboat, railroad or otherwise. "In the southeast portion of the State of Washington, In the vicinity of Lewis- ton, Idaho, embracing a small portion of Idaho and a very small portion of Ore gon, is what Is called the 'Lewlston coun try or 'Clearwater country.' I hold a pamphlet Issued by the Lewiston Com mercial Club, In which It Js stated that this country comprises 6,300,000 acres of land; that Its only natural, logical, com mercial outlet Is by way of the Snake and Columbia Rivers to the Pacific Ocean; that where 50,000 people now dwell It can furnish homes for 350,000 more; that It Is capable of producing 25,000,000 bushels of wheat annually, and that the present wheat production," of what is termed the Inland Empire, tributary to the Columbia, Is now 85,000,000 bushels annually. "I am told by the Representative from Idaho that practically the whole of the Idaho wheat production, 8.CO0.000 bushels annually, whenever It finds a market, travels down and out of the Columbia River. I am told by the gentleman's col league from Washington that that por tion of the State of Washington that lies to the south and east of the Columbia River and Snake River, called the Palouse country, produces annually 20,000,000 bush els of wheat. This Is practically double the amount of wheat that Is annually shipped out of the State of Washington, except down and out of the Columbia River. The gentleman himself states: The upper part of the Columbia and Its sis ter streams, the Snake and the Clearwater, drain a rich and mighty inland empire, that produced this year something like 30,000,000 bushels of tvheat. ,4In view of these facts it Is very sin gular to me, It was very unexpected, and, I think, as unexpected to the gentleman's colleague as myself, that the gentleman should charge the appropriations for this river as an appropriation wholly for the State of Oregon. It was a still greater surprise Jhat the gentleman should so vigorously oppose an appropriation that concerns so deeply so many of his constit uents, and which will benefit, directly and indirectly, every resident of his state, cheapen the transportation down the Co lumbia River for the product of the range, and farm of Southern Washington, and" the railroads will meet the cut for like produce from the northern part of the state. The gentleman's colleagues realize this fact. In this connection It gives me a great deal of pleasure to be able to point to the attitude of two of the gen tleman's colleagues, one of whom resides at the same city with the gentleman him self. These men are broad-minded. They realize that the City of Tacoma is not the State of Washington They are broad enough, liberal enough, to represent the entire state which they have been elected to represent, and to protect the Interests of all portions of their constituency. In response to a letter written by the Port land Chamber of Commerce, asking these gentlemen to assist the delegation from Oregon and the delegation from Idaho In securing appropriations for the Improve ment of the mouth of th Columbia River, Senator .Foster writes: . ... I shall be very glad to continue to give careful attention to this important project, which has to do with one of the great water ways of our country. I have already consulted with General Wilson on the premises, and am quite familiar with his views. "The gentleman's colleague from the House, who resides further In the eastern section of the state, nearer to the part of the state most benefited by this improve ment, writes as follows: You may rest assured that the whole delega tion Is Interested In this matter, and will co- ter provide for the commerce of the en- operate wlth reon Idaho in the en tire land, than by suitable appropriations to deepen the harbors of the City of New STork. (Applause.) If the 17 states repre sented on the river and harbor commit ter receive 76 per cent of the appropria tions, SG per cent of the commerce of the entire country passes through the rivers and harbors of those states, the Improve ments of which are provided for In this bill. "What Oregon Receives. "But it Is not my Intention to further pursue this line of remarks. I am con cerned most with an endeavor to correct some Qf the serious mistakes of the gen tleman, respecting the appropriations In which the State of Oregon and the State of Washington are directly interested. At some trouble and some expense he had prepared a map. representing the North Pacific States. Upon the center of the map of Washington was written the sum of $130,000. Upon the center of the mou of Oregon was written $2,340,500. Upon the map of the State of Idaho was written $ . Then the gentleman turns to the House triumphantly, and demands to know if It Is necessary for him to say which state was represented on the river and harbor committee. "Ihe gentleman probably Intended to con vey to the House, the trend of his re marks certainly did convey to the House, the Impression that the State of Wash ington receives through this bill appro priations amounting only to $130,000, while the State of Oregon receives appropria tions to the amount of $2,340,500. To show bow mistaken such an impression must be. I need only to say that, of the sum w oh the grntleman charges to the State of Oregon. $2,174,000 Is appropriated for the Improvement of the Columbia River, w-ch is more in Washington than In Oregon, and for the Improvement of the deavor to secure the apprpriatlon. Our main reliance In the matter, however. Is Mr. Tongue, who Is a member of the committee, and there fore is in a position to lnslft upon having the matter taken up and cared for. I have al ready urged the matter on several different occasions. "The Oregonlan, the leading paper of the Northwest, commenting upon the river and harbor bill, as reported to Congress, contains the following statement: Let us give credit where credit Is due, but let us also give credit to the Washington and Idaho delegations at Washington for the Snake and Columbia River appropriations. If these rivers flowed through Oregon, we might have less to pat ourselves on the back about. "In the next edition, when The Orego nlan should seek to give credit where credit is due, it will be compelled, I fear; to except the gentleman from Washing ton, upon whose remarks I am now commenting. A Northwest Improvement. "These gentlemen, with the Represen tatives, too, from Idaho, recognize that any sum expended for tne improvement of the Columbia River, Is not a local Improvement; It Is not an Improvement merely for the benefit or the State of Oregon; It Is an Improvement in the com pletion of which the whole of the State of Washington, the whole of the State of Oregon, and the whole of the State of Idaho, are Intensely Interested, and In tensely eager to see prosecuted to com pletion. "I am not going to underestimate the Importance of the Improvement of the Columbia River to the State of Oregon. It furnishes the channel through which every pound of Oregon's commerce into other lands must ultimately pass. Its maintenance is essential to the life and land. But while this Is true, its present and continued improvement is absolutely essential to the full development of the entire North Pacific Coast. "But this representation that the Im provements of the Columbia River are local to the State of Oregon, Is not the only serious mistake made by that gentle man. Here is a portion of his remarks: The appropriations on the Columbia Elver have always been made, up to the present time, on the Columbia River at the mouth of the river between the City of Portland and the mouth. The chief appropriations, I say, have been made there. Now, I wish to call attention to one or two Items of appropria tions that have been made on the Columbia River. In the first place, there has been ex pended between the City of Portland and the Columbia River $160,000 at one time, ,$155,000 at another time, $190,000 at another time, and the present bill Increases the amount to about $8S0,000. "When it is remembered that the com merce tributary to the Columbia River passes through the City of Portland and does not pass through Tacoma, the city In which, the gentleman reslaes, the reasons for attempting to make this statement are somewhat apparent. Buc there are no reasons, there can be no reasons, why the gentleman should have made such a serious and great mlstaKe m the presen tation of the alleged facta. His state ments of the appropriations by the Fed eral Government for the Improvement of the Willamette River are erroneous In every particular. The total appropria tions by the Federal Government for the improvement of the Willamette River be tween the City of Portland and the Co lumbia River, made separate from other improvements, have aggregated the sum of $160,865. But the City of Portland Itself has expended in this Improvement in round numbers about $800,000. "It Is not easy to get the exact amount of appropriations for the Columbia River below the mouth of the Willamette. In many Instances they have Included appro priations for the improvement of the Willamette for a distance of 12 miles below the City of Portland'. Up to the meeting of the present Congress, the entire amounts appropriated by the General Gov ernment for the improvement of the Wil lamette River below Portland, and the Columbia River below the mouth of the Willamette, has been $8,165,CS0. The com merce along this portion of the river is 1,4S9,708 tons, and will soon oe many times that amount. The number of passengers carried out of the state aggregates an nually 268.000. "For the same period of time, the ap propriations by Congress for the Improve ment of the Columbia River, above the mouth of the Willamette, Including the improvement of the Snake River, have been $4,412,545 13, while the freight upon that river as yet Is exceedinly small, com pared with the freight on tho lower river, and must always remain so. Out of the lower river will go practically all the commerce of the upper river, the com merce carried on three transcontinental railroads, on the local railroads, and the Willamette River. In other words. Con gress has appropriated for the Upper Co lumbia River, including the Snake River, $1,342,866 more than it has appropriated for the Lower Columbia River, with al most 100 times the commerce. "In other words. Congress has appro priated 40 per cent more for the Upper Columbia River than for the lower por tion, including the Willamette River, with many, many times the commerce. Yet, in the face of these facts, accessible to the gentleman from Washington, for Ig norance of which he has no excuse, he claims that Congress has discriminated against the Upper Columbia in favor of the lower portion of the same river. It requires some hardihood in a member of the House, addressing an audience of 75, 000,000 of people, to make such a state ment, so much at variance with the actual recorded facts. "The gentleman Informed us that some 2000 years ago some man by the name of Caesar Julius, or Julius Caesar, divided Gaul Into three parts, and he .indulged in some speculation as to what Caesar would do had he lived to the beginning of the twentieth century. In the light of the gentleman's speech, I can furnish him a fairly accurate answer to that question. If Caesar had lived to our day, had been a member of this Congress, had beheld the gentleman from Washington and listened to his speech, he would have concluded that history had much maligned him; In fact, that 'gall' had never been divided; that It was still In the original package; that Its Integrity had been fully pre served, and that the gentleman from Washington was in possession of, not only the real thing, but of the whole thing. (Laughter.) In fact, this slander against Imperial Caesar has been so constantly refuted that I am surprised the gentle man should have repeated It. If he had consu.. a more modern edition of the story books, he would have found that this, as well as the claim that a 'Con gressman running at large' Is dangerous to the peace and society of the community have been discarded as long ago having outlived tnelr usefulness. "If the gentleman had devoted -one-tenth of the time during the week or 10 days that he has spent In the preparation of his speech, in the examination of the reports of the engineering officers, that he had In the preparation of his jests, he would not have been compelled to draw upon his Imagination for his facts, while drawing upon his memory for his wit. Proper Place to Improve River. "But had the greater portion of the Im provements been made at the mouth of the Columbia River, and from there to the mouth of the Willamette a distance of about SO miles, where the largest por tion of the commerce Is carried, would It have been unusual? I trust the gentle man will yet learn that the proper way to Improve a river is at its mouth, not at its source. Where it enters the ocean or another navigable river rather than where It passes through canyons between snow-capped mountains. The improve ments should first go where the greatest benefits can be derived. It would be of no value to the people of the upper por tion of the river to Improve it at their doors without Improving it at Its mouth. It would be useless to give them facilities for getting freight Into the river without facilities for getting it out of the river at its junction with the ocean. "But this Is not a full catalogue of tlie singular mistakes of that very singular but amusing speech. When the gentle man -finally edits his speech for the. Rec ord and decides what he wishes he had said, unless he makes many material changes, he would have to entitle It. not 'The Mistakes of Moses but 'The Mis takes of Cushman.' , "But I quote again from the steno graphic notes of the speech: Now the Chief of Engineers of the United States Army makes some statements regarding the expenditures at the mouth of the Columbia River. In the first place, the former appro priations for the mouth of the Columbia River have been about $2,225,000. When they started In spending money on the mouth of the Co lumbia River they had 31 feet of water. After they had spent $750,000 they took another sounding, and they then had 28 fett of water. Then they spent $750,000 more, and now they have 24 feet. The question now resolves Itself Into one of arithmetical proportion. If we have spent over $3,000,000 between the City of Portland and the sea to produce a deep chan nel, and we have seven feet less water now than we had. when we started, how much water shall we have when we have spent $5,000,000 more "Still venting hostility against the C6 lumbla River. 'Still harping upon my daughter. The Columbia River seems to haunt the gentleman In his waking as well as his dreaming hours. He seems to have some peculiar animus against it. I remember a distinguished professoi who, endeavoring to impress upon his pu pils the evils of eating a hearty supper of mince pie, said that, after Indulging in a meal of that kind, he had a dream, and In his dream the professor was lying flat on his back with His Sajtanic Majesty astride upon his breast, thrusting mince the tlrric the gentleman from Washington Is through with this bill and retired to peaceful slumbers. In his dreams he will imagine that the waters of the Columbia are overwhelming him; that Its fierce cat aracts are endeavoring to force their way through the capacious space between the gentleman's lips, and are washing the foundations from the commercial pros perity of the City of Tacoma. (Laughter.) "But again to correct these misstate ments: I have already shown that the appropriations expended both In the Wil lamette and the Columbia River below the mouth of the Willamette have ex ceeded but little over $3,000,000, instead of $5,000,000, as stated in the gentleman's speech. It now remains to point out the wonderful inaccuracy of the wonderful re suits produced by the expenditure of that money. If the gentleman should turn to the report of Captain Langfitt upon the survey of this river, he will find this statement In reference to the improve ments at the mouth of the Columbia River: . I maintenance is eseeuuai io mc uie uau i m"" " -......-, w.w.q ..v-v. commercial supremacy of the City of Port- pie down his throat with a pitchfork. By Active operations began In April, 1885, to construct a Jetty, the location of which is shown on plate 1. Work was continued with more or less interruption until October, 18S3, when the present Jetty was competed. . . . The channel depth In 18S5 was 20 feet, In 1891 27 feet. In 1892 28 feet. In 1S03 and 1804 29 feet. In 1895 31 feet. "This jetty was built at an expense, I think, of about $13,000, and was one of the most successful in the history of engi neering Improvements. It Is true that a portion of this jetty, something, I think, near half a mile of It, from defective con struction or otherwise, has seriously set tled, destroying part of Its usefulness, and some four or five feet of the depth of water originally gained has since been lost. It Is this fact that has made the present project necessary to make the im provement permanent and complete. But while the sinking of this jetty has been unfortunate, and while it has caused con siderable shoaling of the bar, there is still an Increase of depth of some five or six feet of water, Instead of decrease of a depth of seven feet, according to the statement of the gentleman from Wash ington. "Now, if the gentleman will turn to an other portion of the report of the Chief of Engineers for 1JSO0, he will find that the original project for the Improvement of the Columbia from the mouth of the Wil lamette to the mouth of the Columbia, only contemplated the giving of 20 feet of water, where about 15 and at some places 12 feet previously existed, and that the completion of the project 'has re sulted In maintaining a fairly good chan nel from Portland to the mouth of the Columbia River of from 20 to 23 feet deep at low water,' and that now 'ships draw ing from 20 to 24 feet freely ascend that river to the City of Portland.' I present the statement of the report of engineers as an offset to the statement of the gen tleman from Washington, and without further comment upon that subject. Attltnde qf Tacoma, "I regret to see the gentleman exhibit this hostile attitude against the improve ment of the Columbia River. I regret that unfortunately ho has overlooked the fact that Tacoma Is not the State of Wash ington, that the inhabitants of that mag nificent young city, one of the most pros perous on the Pacific Coast, that has had a marvelous growth In the past, as it will have In the future, do not share the gen tleman's hostility to other cities, or to tho Improvement of this great river. I believe the people of that city are firmly con vinced that their future growth does not depend upon tearing others down, does not depend upon the effort to thwart the progress of others, and, above all, that It does not depend upon any attempt to injure the commercial opportunities that are being afforded by this bill to a very large section of the State of Washington. "It Is useless to profess friendship for the upper river, while opposing improve ment of the lower. He has indulged in statements about the improvements of the lower river, which, if true, furnish abundant reasons why Congress should not appropriate one dollar for the removal of the obstructions at the dalles and Celllo. He has attempted to strike a fatal blow to the Improvement of every part of that great commercial highway. I hope the gentleman's attitude of hos tility to the Columbia River Is not caused by any regrets of seeing a large portion of the products of his magnificent young state finding their way to the sea, and their access to ocean vessels that transj fer them to foreign lands, without tra versing through the city In which he lives. "Tho course of this commerce will not change. Nothing that he can do or that I can neglect to do, will change the ordi nary course of nature. If I should be allowed to address him In some of his own extravagant language, some of the hyperbole which the gentleman can so skillfully use, I should say to him: 'You may live long enough to mount the sun beams to the ethereal heavens, you may live to slide back to earth on the milky way. you may live to unbuckle the belly band of the universe, but you will never live long enough to see the commerce, the products of the rich wheat fields. along the banks and adjacent to the Columbia River, leave their accustomed course, down the banks of the Columbia River to the sea, in order to climb the summits of tho Cascade Mountains, to find an out let upon the waters of Puget Sound.' (Laughter.) Another Cnshmnn Mlstalce. "But I am not yet through with a cata logue of the gentleman's mistakes. I have still another chapter upon 'the mistakes of Cushman.' He charges that Congress hna victimized Washington: that his stnte had been discriminated against; that there has been unjust favoritism shown ! . .1 c?.t r- nrvri anil nmlnqf tbtf State of Washington.. Let me correct some m'ore of the. gentleman's Imagination by a statement of facts. "The two last river and harbor bill", the one In 1S96 and the one In 1898, have carried for the State of Washington, In appropriations and authorized contracts, which will be fully carried out. the sum of $1,884,000. This money has been largely expended. The remainder of It is being now expended entirely within tho State of Washington, not upon borders between that and any other state. There was car ried for Gray's Harbor alone $1,000,000. For Everett harbor alone $592,000. During the same period of time, carried by the same bills, the appropriations and au thorizations for the State of Oregon that were approved by the department, all the appropriations that have been or are be ing actually expended ana to oe expenaea. entirely within the State of Oregon, amounted to only the sum of $685,890, a little over one-third as much to be ex pended entirely within the State of Ore gon as was expended entirely within the State of Washington. And yet, when those two bills were framed, when the largest one the State of Washington has ever had was framed and passed. Oregon had a member of the river and harbor committee in the house, a member of the committee on commerce In the Senate, and the State of Washington had neither. When the last bill was passed, the State of Oregon had a member of the commit tee on commerce In the Senate, and Washington .had. a member on neither committee. "I put these facts, and they are facts that can be found of record, against the claim of the gentleman from Washington that Congress has discriminated In favor of Oregon and against Washington. Dur ing the same time, the same two bills carried appropriations for the Snake River and the Columbia River above the mouth of the Willamette, which Is more In Washington than in Oregon. $888,597. Of this sum, $12,000 was wholly in Wash ington and Oregon, $67,000 between Van couver and the mouth of the Willamette River, wholly for the State of Washing ton. There was expended on the Willam ette River below Portland, and the Co lumbia below the mouth of the Willam ette, $871,000. a total for the Columbia and Snake Rivers of $704,597. Now. if the gentleman should indulge In imagination, should charge the sums expended in and Snake River -wholly to the. State of Oregon, still these appropriatlonswould only aggregate the sum of $1,389,897. during the last five years. During these five years, all the sums appropriated and au thorised and expended for Oregon In river and harbor Improvements, Including all the sums appropriated and expended for the Columbia and Snake Rivers' through river and harbor bills, amount to only a little more than about 60 per cent of the sums expend entirely within the State of Washington. "The rivers and harbors within Wash ington are being well taken care of under existing contracts, while there are no con tracts under way In Oregon. I place these facts of trie treatment Washington received from Oregon Senators and Oregon Congressmen against the gentleman's statements that Congress has dlscrlml nated in favor of Oregon and against the State of Washington. It certainly Is not the gentleman's misfortune, it certainly Is to the good fortune of his state, that its rivers and harbors have be-en so well taken care df in previous Congresses, that Its real wants and necessities are exceed ingly few. Engineers' Recommendations. "In the same line and In connection with this, I want to call attention to an other of the 'mistakes of Cushman." In thn table that he nlaced before the House he endeavored to show, or claim, that In the states represented by the members of the river and harbor committee a much larger proportion of the recommen dations of the engineers had been adopt ed. In pursuance of this plan, he nas alleged that the engineers have recom mended appropriations for the State of Washington for $650,000, while they have received but $180,000. I have asked the gentleman for the Items which compose this sum, but as yet have not recelveC them. I controvert the statement as to tho amount recommended by the Chief of Engineers. "I hold before me the book of esti mates, and which contains the amount which the chief of engineers recommends can be appropriated, or rather that can be profitably used within the State of Washington for the coming fiscal year. The total amount Is $246,000, instead of $680,000. In this sum was Included $125,000 for a ship canal between the Sound and Lake Washington. Thero have been ap propriated at different times for this project, $175,000, but about $5000 has been expended in four years, leaving on hand something like $170,000. At this rate of expenditure the committee thought fur ther appropriation unnecessary, and made none. Outside of that appropriation, the recommendations were for $121,000. In recommending this amount the engineers overlook $32,719 49 on hand for the Im provements of Puget Sound and Its trib utary waters. This- left but $88,280 59, and we have appropriated $130,000. It is pos sible that In making up the $6SO,0CO, the gentleman has included projects reported by the engineers, Including the Improve ment at Tacoma. This might be a fair method If he had followed it in other states. But if he had followed the same method In the State of Oregon, and fol lowed also his method of charging the Columbia and Snake Rivers to Oregon, he would have found that the recommenda tions of the engineers. Including the projects that they have heretofore ap proved and recommended, covered, In stead of less than $1,012,000, something over $10,000,000. He would have found that Instead of appropriating the large per cent, which I think he claimed, something like 88 per cent, we would have appropri ated for Oregon less than 8 per cent. "But if he includes the Tacoma project in his estimates, it Is not recommended by the engineers, except conditionally. Cap tain Langfitt, after stating that the project Is for dredging the city waterway from Eleventh street to Fourteenth street, states as follows: . In my opinion, the improvement outlined In the report, that Is, dredging In the city water way. Is a worthy Improvement, and Is urgent ly needed at the present time.. "Whether this Improvement should be made by the Govern ment, or by private interests on account of the conditions surrounding this waterway, as explained In the report, seems uncertain to me, and I have left this question open for higher authority to decide. "It Is further stated that the harbor out side of this waterway Is of ample depth, nee- no Improvement, and the contem plated Improvement Is for the purpose of securing further dockage, and will be of inestimable value to private property. No recommendations were made for any ap propriation in the present bill, as recom mendations are rarely made In any new project until it has been approved by Congress. Cnslimnn's Effort Summed Up. "I might point out further mistakes of this remarkable speech of the gentleman. It was very entertaining, it was very amusing. Like other members of tho House, I was delighted to hear It; it fur nished needed recreation and food for merriment. But I regret exceedingly, as I think some of his best friends from Washington regret, that he should have found It necessary In endeavoring to se cure recognition for his own state to as sail his neighbors, or any other portion of the Union. I have no such animosity to any portion of the state that the gen tleman represents. It has no river or harbor the improvement of which I should not rejoice to see. If the gentleman should succeed, by amendment In this House, or In the Senate, In securing additional sums for the Improvement of any additional harbors or rivers within his state, none will rejoice more than I. That the ap propriations for his state are not larger is attributable to no fault or neglect of 'mine. After listening to the very able remarks of his colleagues, I am Inclined to think that possibly this committee may have overlooked a worthy improvement at Gray's Harbor. If the. House should con cur in this view, there would certainly be no objection from me, or any Representa tive from the State of Oregon. "The gentleman will always find, his colleagues will always find, that In any jeffort to build up his magnificent state, and In present resources md prospect for future development. It Is one of the grand est and most magnificent states In the Union, he will find that delegation from Oregon, in House and Senate, standing by him, hand in hand, shoulder to shoul der, ready to render him every help with in Its power. He will find us neighbors and friends, ready to work In friendship in building up, not enemies, laboring In hostility, to pull down' his state, cripple Its progress or retard Its prosperity." PARISIANS FIGHT DUEL COUNT DE LUBERSAC "WOUNDED BY BAROXDE ROTHSCHILD. Both Men ' Fonght Furiously Inci dent Had Origin in a Boys' Quarrel. PARIS, Jan. 20. The long-expected duel between the Count de Lubersac and Baron Robert de Rothschild was fought with words at 11 o'clock this morning on Baron Edmund de Rothschild's es tate at Boulogne, near the Seine. The carriages with the principals, seconds, doctors and a few friends, arrived there from Pari3 shortly before 11 o'clock. Count de Lubersac's seconds were M. Schege and Count de Laborde, and those of Baron de Rothschild were Baron Leonlno, and Viscount de Bondy. The duel began at 11 and lasted 10 minutes, when Count de Lubersac received a lunge, perforating his arm at the elbow to the armpit. The duel was then stopped. Both the Count and the Baron fought most determinedly. Neither flinched nor showed the slightest desire to spare the other. Sixteen engagements took place, all of a desperate character. The com batants attacked each other furiously. Tb.e sleeves of their shirts were literally torn to pieces by the points of their swords as the duellists repeatedly lunged at each other." Several times they came to close quarters, and their seconds were obliged to separate them. At the 16th onslaught. Baron de Roths child lunged at the Count, who tried to parry but failed, and the Baron's sword penetrated his arm just above the elbow, and issued at the armpit. The specta tors hastened around the wounded man, and two well-known physicians, Drs. Berger and Polrricr, examined the wound. The doctors said the Count's life was not In danger, but It was Im possible to continue the duel. Count de Lubersac was then driven back to Paris. Baron de Rothschild Is still performing military service with the Fifty-fourth regiment of Infantry, in garrison at Com. plegne. He only attained his majority yesterday, and lost no time In settling his account with Count de Lubersac. The Rothschfld-Lubersac Incident, which brought out a remarkable crop of duels, had its origin In a boy's quarrel, dating from the time when Count de Lu bersac and Baron Robert de Rothschild were at the same college. They quar reled one day In regard to a tennis court which was occupied by Rothschl'd, and which Count de Lubersac wanted. During the quarrel Lubersac called his adversary "sale julff" (dirty Jew). Ill feeling was revived after they left collesre by an expression attributed to Baron Robert de Rothschild respecting Count de Lubersac, which was repeated to the latter soon after his admission to the Jockey Club The Count then wrote a letter In which he announced himself ready to meet the Baron on the field Of honor, although, as he expressed It, "you know how you and your people inspire me with disgust." Baron de Rothschild sent as his second M. Saint Alery and De Nuflise to Count de Lubersac, who appointed Count do Dion and Count Bonl de Castellane as his seconds. Baron Robert de Roths childs' seconds stated in a letter subse quently published that their efforts to se cure an encounter had failed because of the refusal of Count de Lubersac's sec onds to allow the duel to take place when they discovered that Baron do Rothschild was still a minor. Letters of Baron Robert to his seconds and to the Count added fuel to the flames, and the Count announced his pur pose to again send his seconds when the Baron should attain his majority. He also wrote to Baron Robert's cousin, Earon Eduoard Rothschild, son of Baron Alphonse de Rothschild, stating that as the son of the head of the Rothschild family, he should hold him responsible, and at their first meeting would insult him. A duel followed between Count de Lubersac and Baron Edouard de Roths child April 12 of last year, in which tho latter was slightly wounded, in tne lore- arm In the first bout. . does In the time. As a matter of fact all his engagements are made weeks, and sometimes months, ahead, and every hour almost every minute, is mapped out for him. When the correspondent was ushered Into his study at Marlborough House, the Prince was seated at an old-fashioned pedestal writing-desk, the fac simile of the one used by his father, the late Prince Consort, which was piled high with papers and documents of all descriptions. Ho wore a black morning coat and vest, dark gray trousers, square-fronted collar, with a white-spotted black bow tie, and patent leather shoes, and in his fingers he held the Inevitable cigar. His manner was kind in the extreme. It was merely like an elderly business man, smiling a kindly welcome to some young and daring in truder. "Well, what do you want me to say?" was his royal highness query, as soon as the preliminary greeting was over. The correspondent launched forth hla questions, beginning with Inquiries about the numerous public dinners which tha Prince attended, and alluding to the pub lished statement that the Prince held tha record for the largest sum of money ever collected at one banquet. "Yes, that's correct: I certainly hold tho record in that respect," said tho Prince. "And presiding at dinners, etc., for the benefit of charities, especially Ma- sonic ones, is almost a pleasure to me. The only part which I do not like about the proceedings Is If the dinner drags Itself out to a considerable length. That I do not like, and when dining In private at home, the meal seldom lasts more than an hour." "I have read many times in reports of dinners, etc., at which your royal high ness has been present," said the corre spondent, "that you wore continually smiling during tho proceedings, and seemed to be enjoying yourself Very much." "Yes," replied the Prince, a shade of weariness creeping into his eyes, "that 13 where I act. If only you knew how ter ribly bored I am by the Inordinate length of some of these dinners and the speeches, and how I am all the time longing to get away, you would be really sorry for me. But there, I must not say too much on that subject." With regard to horseraclng and betting, his royal highness said: "I think racing is tho finest sport in the world, and I only regret that It should be harmful at the amount of betting which goes on. Personally I am strongly averse to tho practice, and I always use what influenco I possess to discountenance It amongst my personal friends, especially when It la made a regular practice of and the stakes are large." "There are many people who think that your royal highness has a very easy life of It, and that the hardest duties which you have to perform are attending state functions," said the Interviewer. "Now, here Is some information for you," said the Prince. "Do you know that I, myself, see every letter which is addressed to me, and in the majority of Instances dictate the reply? When the mail arrives In the morning It Is opened by my secretary's staff, and sorted Into three groups letters from personal friends and relatives, those bearing on state af fairs, and. thirdly, begging letters and petitions. I make it my business to make myself aware of the contents of each. This of Itself Is no light task, when you take Into consideration the fact that eacn morning's mail consists of some hundreds of letters. So that those who say mine is an Idle life, malign me." Asked his opinion on South African af fairs, he smilingly shook his head and refused to be drawn out, but he said that, he should always remember with the deep est affection and regard the heroic con duct of the troops In the campaign. "One more question," said the correspondent. "What Is yoUr royal highness favorite recreation?" "Shooting," he replied unhesitatingly. "There Is nothing I like better than a good day's hunt. It seems to be the only thing which takes me out of myself, and makes me forget the club and responsi bilities of my position." There was one more remark that the Prince made which will be of Interest, as It bears on the America's cup, for, al though he has not taken so much Inter est In yachtraclng since the Britannia, Count de Lubersac, a few days pre viously, fought with and wounded M. h openly confcsses that "there are few things which I would like better than to Michael Ephreu3sl, and a third duel, ar ising from the same controversy, was fought between De Dion and M. de Saint Alery, In which the latter was wounded. INTERVIEW WITH WALES. Tnllced With Frnnkness About Him self and Views. LONDON. Jan. U. The following Is the substance of an Interview with the Prince of Wales which is to appear shortly in a London magazine. There is every reason to believe It Is perfectly genuine, and it is understood to be the first Interview in which his royal highness has been direct ly quoted: A correspondent who had been priv ileged to meet the Prince of Wales on more than one occasion, had an Interview with England's future King, at Marl borough House, his royal highness' Lon don residence, some days ago. The Prince talked with great frankness concerning himself, and his views on various sub jects. If any one ever deserved the ap pellation of a "busy man," the Prince does. There are few city merchants and business men who work harder than he does. Even the London public has no Idea of the quantity of work he gets through In the course of a day. It Is only by following a most methodical arrange ment that he Is able to do so much as Me see the America's cup come home again." For Creditors Firm of "VV. L. Stronar. NEW YORK, Jan. 20. Acceptance of 40 cents on the dollar by the creditors ot W L. Strong is recommended by the ad visory committee appointed to inquire Into the affairs of the firm of which the ex-Mayor was the principal member. The book accounts, the cash In the bank, the various claims represented by note, the Interest In mills now In operation, and an Insurance policy on the life of a debtor, foot up $781,110. The liabilities, which include secured and unsecured creditors are $7S1,415, leaving an actual deficit of $305. The indorsement of Stott's notes for more than $1,000,000 was the chief cause of the failure of the ex-Mayor's firm. Resuscitated Man Still Alive. HAMILTON, O., Jan. 20. Marcus Sauer, the man afflicted with dropsy, who was revived, after apparent dissolution, by the Injection of a solution of sodium chloride, January 11, Is still alive. Since his re suscitation Sauer has steadily gairied lij vigor, and the acute symptoms of his dropsical affliction are disappearing. There is every prospect that Sauer's Ufa wlll.be prolonged for some time. RETURN OF LEGISLATORS. Most of Absent Members Baclc at Capltnl. SALEM, Or., Jan. 20. Most of the ab sent members of the Legislature returned today, to be in readiness for the legis lative session at 2 o'clock tomorrow. Some are yet away, however, and will not come till morning. It was unexpectedly quiet tonight at the Capitol and around the hotel lobbies. There is no movement around the vari ous Senatorial headquarters, and there have been no developments whatever in the Senatorial situation. What progress has been made In the matter of a Sena torial caucus can only be conjectured. The promoters of the call express themselves as still confident that they will get the necessary 46. Tomorrow night will finally tell the tale, so far as the caucus is con cerned. It is expected that Speaker Reoder will be Teady to announce his committees to morrow, and the business of the Legisla ture will then proceed witnout inter ruption, except, of course, from the Sena torial contest, If that is protracted. Nebraska. Senatorial Deadlock. LINCOLN, Neb., Jan. 20. Indications tonight are that there will be no change in the Senatorial deadlock for several days. Rctnrn of Canadian Troops. CAPE TOWN, Jan. 20. The British steamer Lake Erie sailed for Canada to- those two bills upon the Columbia River J day, carrying 400 of Strathcona's Horse. 5 This is the oldest Private Medical Dispensary In the City of Portland, the first Medical Dispensary ever started In the city. Dr. Kessler. the old, reliable specialist has been man ager of this institution for 20 years, during which time tnousands of cases have been cured, ana no person was ever refused treatment. 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