Morning Oregonian. (Portland, Or.) 1861-1937, February 20, 1900, Page 2, Image 2

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THE MOENING OKEGONIAN, TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 1900. ,
PUERTO RICAN BILL
Opening of the Debate in the
House.'
GREAT INTEREST IN THE MEASURE
freUBtisaiy Speeofees by Payne, Dal-
sell sad Rlenardgen Opposition
te tke Bill.
WASKDfOTOK. Feb. M.-The deoate
upon Che Puerto Rican tariff Mil. which
1b to continue throughout th week, and
possibly looser, opened in the house to
day On alt nanus it is agreed that this
bill, although it applies only to Puerto
Kdco, involving, ae it foes, the question
of the power to govern our new posses
sions outside the limitations- of the consti
tution, te the roost important measure
-which will come before this congress.
Interest in the bill is Intense among the
members on both sines, and. there is ur
gent demand for time.
The democrats are solidly arrayed
against the measure, and they will have
powerful support from the republican side
in McCall (rep. Mass) and Llttleneld rep.
Me), both able and forceful debaters.
How far the republican disaffection will
extend, or whether It will endanger the
bill, it Is impossible to say at this time.
Payne (rep. N. Y.), floor leader of the ma
jority, refused to agree that a vote should
1e taken upon a substitute to be offered
by the minority. Thte substitute, which
has not yet been framed, will be In sub
stance the Mil originally introduced by
Payne, providing for free trade with
Puerto Rico by the extension of the cus
toms arifi revenue laws of the United
States over the island.
The debate today lacked exciting feat
ures It was In the nature of a long-range
bombardment before the clash of the con
tending forces in battle. Payne opened
with a general argument in support of
the bill, going largely into the material
side of the situation, which the Mil is
designed to relieve Richardson, the dem
ocratic leader, joined issue upon the power
of congress to enact the proposed legis
lation, and Dalsell (rep. Pa.) backed up
Payne with a constitutional and legal ar
gument All three were listened! to with
close attention.
The Preeeedings.
The galleries were well filled today in
anticipation of the opening of the debate
upon the Puerto Rlcan tariff MIL Before
the bUl was called up, DolUver (rep. la.),
from the committee on way and means,
moved the passage, under suspension of the
rules, of the bill reported from the com
mittee to amend section 8M9 and 841, of
the revised statutes, relating to the inter
nal revenue tax on fermented liquors. The
purpose of the bill, DolUver said, was to
abolish the smaller packages of beer, one
sixth and one-eighth barrels. The bill, he
said, wa asked for by the brewing inter
ests of the country. It would in no wise
affect the revenue.
Fletcher (rep. Minn.) offered an amend
ment providing that the bill shall not go
into effect .until July 1, 109. The amend
ment was agreed to.
Sulser (dem. N. Y.) said he favored the
bill, but that it was merely a sop to the
brewers. What they really wanted was
the abolition of the war taxes. He thought
the war-revenue law should be repealed.
The republicans he said, had promised to
do that when the war was over, but they
had made no move in that direction. He
challenged the leaders on the other side
to say when they proposed to repeal that
law, which is used to pile up money In
the treasury to be loaned without Interest
to pet national banks.
Terry (dem.. Ark.) declared that the re
publican were using the war taxes to eke
out the deficiencies created by the Dingiey
law, which he said had proven a most lam
entable failure. The republicans' jeered
this remark and continued to jeer when
Terry said that the republicans dare not
abolish their policy of criminal aggression
in the Philippines because of the secret
understanding with Great Britain, and for
the same reason they dare not offer a word
of sympathy to the two republics strug
gling for liberty In South Africa.
Otjen (rep. Wis.), Bartholdt (rep. Mo.),
and Babcock (rep. Wis.), urged the pas
sage of the Mil in justice to the brewers.
The latter said the brewetw were carrying
the greatest tax burden in this country
(paying $72,600,080 of taxes) and were en
titled to consideration.
Bartlett (dem. Oa.), said the humble
were asking relief from the war taxes,
and they should be listened to as well as
the rich association of brewers, who paid
heavy campaign contributions. The bill
was passed without division.
Payne (rep. K. Y.), floor leader of the
majority, then moved that the house go
Into committee of the whole to consider
the Puerto Rican tariff bU. . Pending that
motion, Payne offered to make an agree
ment by which general debate should ,c lose
Saturday next, the bill to be taken up
tinder the five-minute rule Monday next,
and the final vote to be taken at 2 o'clock.
McCall (rep. Mass.) asked if such an
arrangement would preclude- a vote upon
the bill originally introduced by Payne
for free trade with Puerto Rico, which
was In line with recommendations of the
president in his annual message. Payne
replied that that was & matter for the
house and the committee to decide.
Richardson (dem. Tenn.), the minority
leader. Insisted that there should be a
definite understanding that the minority
could offer a substitute. To this Payne
declined to agree.
As a matter of privilege, Hltt (rep. Ill)
reported back from the committee on for
eign affaire the Wheeler resolution call
ing upon the state department for infor
mation a to the truth of the charges
of Mr Macrum. ex-consul at Pretoria, con
cerning the opening of his mail by the Brit
ish authorities, and it was adopted without
debate.
raj'ac'K Argument.
The house then went into committee of
the whole, with all questions relating to
the close of the debate open. Payne, m
charge of the Mil. opened the debate with
a carefully prepared argument In sup
port of the measure. He was listened to
with marked attention, He sad:
"An Incident to the hvte war with Spain
was the invasion of Puerto Rico. Trots
the moment that the American army set
its foot oa Puerto Rican soli, the people
seemed to receive them with demonstra
tions of Joy, and the flag of the United
States was received with delight. What
ever differences there may have been as
to the policy of annexing the Philippine
islands, I know of no opposition anywhere
to the annexation of this gem of the An
tilles. "This bill, by Its term, relates only to
the island of Puerto Rico. It cannot be
taken as a precedent of any legislative ac
tion in reference to the Philippine islands,
when the present insurrection shall have
feeen overcome, except In so far as we as
sort in t our view of our power under the
American constitution. All agree that the
first and most Important duty we owe to
the people of Puerto Rico te to open up
markets for them. In uo other way can
we allay the feeling of discontent likely
to arise among a people who have realised
so little In the change from Spanish op
pression of 4M years to the prosperity rfnd
liberty which follows the American flag.
"The original bill. Introduced on 'the 19th
day of January last, provided that the
customs laws of the United States and the
internal revenue laws be extended to
Puerto Rico. The idea was to give the
producer of sugar the free entrance of
this staple Into the United States, saving
a doty of over $M a ton. Under that MU
the duty saved upon tobacco would be 3S
cents per pound for the main portion of
the crop and for the wrapped $1 8$ per
pound.
"After consultation with general Davie,
the present military governor, who has
made a careful study of the conditions in
Puerts Rico, it was found that this action
would not produce sufficient revenue to
meet the expenses of the government. He
estimated that noj; mure than $l,O0,OrtJ
could be collected from both customs -duties
and Internal revenue tax. This sum
would net pay the bare expenses of the
government, without appropriating a dollar
for the public schools or roads.
"The substitute was then brought forward-
which 'imposes a duty equal to out
own tariff upon all articles Imported from
abroad, tother than those of the United
States, Into Puerto Rico, and a duty equal
to 16 per cent of the rates of our own
tariff laws on all articles imported into
Puerto Rioo from ihe United States oi
from Puerto Rico Into the United States.
The best estimates that can be obtained
show that this will produce a revenue otf
Jl,T69,O00 from, customs duties, which, add
ed to the Internal revenues of the island,
will produce $2,509,000, a sum sufficient ta
pay all the expenses of the government,
including the postal service, and also $35,
009 for the public schools.
"The total estimate of General Davis for
the expenditures Is $1,950,009. The original
bill, therefore, It would seem, means a
bankrupt treasury; the substitute a sur
plus of $609,000, whioh will meet some of
the pressing needs for the establishment
of common schools. The remission of 75
per centum of the duties on sugar and
tobacco, which are now paid, means an
annual Increase of income to these people
of $,309,000. This means the lifting of a
mortgage from many a small plantation,
better wages for the laborers, more' money
In circulation and greater general pros
perity. It means hope Instead of despair.
It means encouragement to the other agri
culturists, who will be stimulated by the
prosperity of their neighbors to restore
their own broken fortunes.
"That the Income under this bill will in
crease from year to year there can be no
doubt; that it will restore prosperity and
give new life and enterprise to the people
of this Island Is equally true. This will
open up new channels for direct taxation
without proving a burden to the people,
and the time will not be far distant when
public Improvements all over the island
will be complete and a schoolhouse estab
lished In every community beneath the
folds of the American flag.
"Nor will this bill Injure any Interests In
the United States. With sugar at 25 per
cent of the present d.utles, the beet-sugar
Industry will still grow and prosper; 40,003
tons a year ago, and 100,009 tons this year;
It Is destined In the near future to supply
the place of all we import. As I had oc
casion to say in closing the debate on the
conference report on the Dingjey bill, with
a beet-sugar factory in every congressional
district. It will solve the question of the
sugar trust.
"Nor does the American tobacco grower
fear the Importation of this 4,000,000 pounds
of tobacco. It will furnish a new market
for the wrapper which he produces, and
will bring him gain Instead of loss. We
believe that the best interests of the peo
ple of Puerto Rico and the best lntereets
of the people of the United States are
both subserved in this bill.
"But our constitutional power is ques
tioned. I don't propose to go into discus
sion of the dictum of the supreme court or
any decision bearing on the question, 1
find no case where the question was di
rectly involved or which is decisive. It is
now universally conceded that we have
the power to acquire territory by conquest
or by treaty. I find no limit In the con
stitution to this power.
"In respect .to Puerto Rico we are not
hampered by treaty stipulations or by act
of congress. There has been no law ex
tending the constitution over the island,
and in this it differs from the statutes of
every formerly acquired territory. We
have absolute power. This was claimed in
the debate on the Louisiana case, and this
contention prevailed. This DrinclDle wad
affirmed by Webster, Story and Benton,
and a long line of statesmen and jurists.
"But now the opposition say this Is Im
perialism. Youare but re-echoing the cry
of the opposition of 100 years ago. Still
the majority moved on, and the American
people approved their course. The terri
tory of Louisiana In the plenary powers
given to the president, survived and flour
ished until 1S12, when part of it was
organized Into the territory of Missouri,
with a legislature at that late day com
posed of a legislative council appointed
by the president and an assembly elected
by the people. Here again we had impe
rialism, but the fathers wisely waited un
til this people were fit for self-government
before they extended the limitations and
the privileges of the constitution to them.
The same is true of the territory of Flop
Ida. "Only a year and a half ago, congress,
by a twe-thirds vote In the senate, an
nexed Hawaii by an act modeled after
the Florida and Louisiana acts. The de
bate was strong and furious, but, accord
ing to my recollection, no gentleman in
the opposition raised the cry of imperial
ism against the manner In which congress
asserted the right to its absolute power
to provide any sort of government for this
new territory. Nor is there danger In all
this. Congress, representing the American
people, Is never swift to put the power
of government into the hands of any peo
pie of the territory belonging to the United
States.
"As for the people of Puerto Rico, I
would move as fast as their own good
will warrant. Pass this bill, which, even
the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mc
Call) admits Is a well-considered measure
from a fiscal standpoint, and give them
better markets and abundant revenue. Do
not tie down their destinies to the whim
of 90 per cent of the illiterate or to the
caprice of 10 per cent of the educated,
who have known no government except
Spanish misrule. Keep them all in leading
strings until you have educated them up
to the full stature of American manhood,
and then crown them with the glory of
American citizenship. In the meantime,
give them all the rights accorded to our
own people under the constitution consist
ent with their best interests and happi
ness. "What shall we do with the Philippines?
First, stamp out insurrection and restore
law and. order. Then Investigate and leg
islate with caution, always remembering
their welfare and our own. If, in the
meantime, the supreme court should de
clare that our Interpretation of the con
stitution is not right, which I do not for
a moment believe, then our task will be
fraught with the greatest difficulty. But 1
believe that American statesmanship will,
in that event, work out the problem to
the elevation of the Philippines and the
glory of our country. If we prove to be
right In our contention, our task will be
far easier. It will be safe to trust tha
American people and their representatives.
We will teach them the principles of the
American constitution. In the meantime,
we will not ourselves f orgt t those prin
ciples in our dealings with them The
constant aim shall be -to elevate them, and
whether we incorporate them finally Into
cur system, or send them forth among the
nations of the world, we will vouchsafe to
them the blessings of liberty. Wherever
our flag goes up it shall not come down
without having first guaranteed under ltd
folds the blessings of civilization, of lib
erty and of sovereign citizenship."
Richardson (dem. Tenn.), the leader of
the minority, made the opening argument
in opposition to the measure.
"I am not an alarmist," he said, "but In
my judgment the pending bill Is more
dangerous ,to the liberties of the people of
this republic than any measure before se
riously presented to the American con
gress. -It will prove more far reaching m
Hs provisions and disastrous In the results
that must of necessity follow If It should
be enacted Into law, than any act ever
passed by congress. The bill is framed
upon the Idea and assumption that con
gress enters -upon the , government of
Puerto Rico unrestrained by the provisions
of the constitution. This we deny. Those
of use who oppose this measure, I- believe
wlthcut exception, maintain that the bill
cannot be enacted Into law without a total
disregard and violation of not simply the
spirit, but the express letter of the con
stitution. The Louisiana territory, Florida,
Texas , California, New Mexico. Oregon
and Alaska have all been acquired under
our constitution without a jar or strain
to any of Its wise and beneficent provis
ions, and without any debate for Its
amendment Every foot of this vast do
main was acquired and annexed under I
democratic presidents. The democratic
party has always favored proper expan
sion. Those of us opposing this measure
are not basing our opposition to It that it
Is a measure for expansion. This is not
a measure of expansion.
"Whether the constitution of the United
States is extended to the Island of Puerto.
Rico ex proprie vigore or not, it must be
admitted that when we enter upon legis
lation for the Island, as congress will do
if It passes this bill, that question will
be put at rest and the territory will then
be a part of us, the control of the presi
dent and military must have ceased, and
the expansion as to the Island will have
been completed.
"Legislation by congress for the Island
also makes It a part of the United States.
If this bill passes, it must follow that It
Is then a part of the United States. This
being true, the proposition which this bill
carries for unequal taxation of the Island
as a portion of the United States Is the
baldest form of Imperialism, The opposi
tion to this bill plants Itself upon this
ground. The measure is imperialism itself.
In the former acquisitions to which I have
referred, no such measure as the pending
one was ever proposed or deemed neces
sary. This effort, therefore, clearly marks
the dividing line between ail former ac
quisitions and that of Puerto Rico."
Richardson then proceeded with an ex
haustive legal argument to prove that the
constitution extended over our new pos
sessions, quoting numerous decisions of
the supreme court In support of his con
tentions "Let us vote down this most dangerous
bill. I am proud to be able to say that, In
my opinion, when the roll Is called on its
passage, not a solitary democratic vote In
this chamber will bl recorded in its favor.
All will stand by the Union and the con
stitution. We revere that instrument as
the best ever devised by the brain and
Intellect of man. it has been the hope
and the stay of our people for more than
109 years."
Richardson spoke over an hour. He was
several times Interrupted by applause from
his side of the house. Ths applause was
especially vigorous when he said that every
democratic vote would be against the bill.
Dnlzell's Speech.
Dalzell (rep. Pa.), the ranking member of
the ways and means committee, followed
In a close legal and constitutional argu
ment in support of the contention of the
majority that the constitution did not ex
tend over our new possessions.
"By the treaty with Spain," he said,
"we acquired the islands constituting the
Philippines and Puerto Rico. Attempting
now, for the first time, to legislate for
one of these new possessions, we are told
we must be governed by one fixed, un-
varying system, and that the system
which applies to the United States itselr.
"The constitution was established by the
people of the United States for the United
States. It provides for the future admis
sion of countries Into the Union, and ex
pressly confers upon congress the power
of governing them as. territories until they
are admitted as states. If the constitution
was in force In Florida, why was It neces
sary to pass an act of congress extending
several of the laws of the United State
to Florida? Why did congress designate
particular laws, such as the crimes act,
the slave trade and revenue acts, and In
troduce them as laws Into Florida if the
Inhabitants of Florida were entitled to
them on the act of cession? If this rea
soning of Webster's be not correct, then
it being Impossible to govern these pos
sessions as the United States are governed,
we must either have a constitutional
amendment, abandon the islands or let
the president govern them. The same limi
tation that applies to congress applies to
the president."
Dalzell expressed his opposition to free
trade with Puerto Rico at this time. We
must be generous to Puerto Rico, but just
to ourselves. If we must have free trade
with Puerto Rioo, we must with the Phil
ippines. The result might be the planting
of immense areas of sugar and tobacco.
The low wages paid would be a menace
to labor In this country."
Turning to the question of the consent
of the governed, Dalzell asserted that In
a representative repuhllc, the right to
govern- did not depend on the consent of
the governed. The methods of govern
ment prescribed by the principles of An
glican liberty, as practiced in the United
States, would be grotesque in the Philip
pine islands, ond would bring to their peo
ple no advantage. They would be, In point
of fact, impossible of exercise.
"The guarantees of liberty," he conclud
ed, "do not exist alone in the constitution
of the United States. They do pot depend
upon tne great instrument for their
strength and perpetuity. Thoy would con
tinue to live and flourish If that constitu
tion were annihilated. They are the In
destructible heritage of humanity."
Dalzell received an ovation when he fin
ished. The house then, at 5 o'clock, took
a recess until 8.
Nothing was accomplished at the 'night
session of the house, which was to have
been devoted to pension legislation. Tal
bert (dem S. C.) made the point of no
quorum and blocked proceedings. The
house remained In session until 10 o'clock
in the hope of getting a quorum, and then
adjourned.
INDIAN WAR VETERANS.
Treated In Oregon Soldiers' Home
the Same as Other Jiunntes.
ROSEBURG. Feb. 17. (To the Editor.)
My attention has been called to an arti
cle in your issue of the 14th Inst., writ
ten by Mr. T A. Wood, grand command
er, Indian War "Veterans. North Pacific
coast, addressed to the Oregon delegation
In congress, In advocacy of bills now pend
ing in that body for pensioning the sur
vivors of certain Indian wars, in which ho
does a great injustice to his own state.
He says. "The aged and destitute Indian
war veteran has to find a home in some
county poorhouse, while the government,
through national and state soldiers'
homes, provides a decent refuge for other
veterans."
That no man can gain admission into
the National Home, unless he can produce
proof that he has been mustered into the
service of the United States, is true. As
to the laws of other states maintaining
soldiers' homes, in relation to the admis
sion of Indian war veterans into their
homes, I am not apprised, but in the mat
ter of the law of this state on the subject
I am well Informed, as is also Mr. Wood.
Indian war veterans are admitted In the
Oregon Soldiers' Home upon precisely the
same terms as are the veterans of other
wars who are eligible, to-wit- Upon satis
factory proof that they have rendered
military service; and they receive precise
ly the same treatment Of the entire
number of men in this home today, slight
ly more than one-third are Indian war
veterans, while the other two-thirds are
civil and Mexican war veterans.
With other statements in Mr. Wood's
communication historical and statistical
I have no controversy. Presumably he
has investigated the subjects. I have not.
But his general charge that Indian war
veterans must seek an asylum "in some
county poorhouse" Is not, so far as this
state Is concerned, and for all of the ex
soldlers of this class, In accordance with
the facts; and its effect is to make ene
mies to the Soldiers' Home among the,
Indian war veterans and their friends, as
well as with the pioneer element of our
citizenship which well knows the worth
of the service these men rendered to the
country.
Mr. Wood may have thought that the
gentlemen composing our delegation in
congress were ignorant of the provisions
of the law establishing the Oregon Home,
and that therefore he could deal very
freely In generalizations. These gentle
men are well Informed on these lines, and
also as to the numbers of the various
classes of veterans comprising the popu
lation of this home. When he wrftes
again, it is hoped he will at least give his
own state credit for what it is doing for
the men who have sought and obtained
shelter within its home.
W. J. SHIPLEY.
CLARK AND THE DOCTOR
BOTH OX THE STAMJ AT THE SES-
ATE COMMITTEE'S HEARING.
Latter Talked of His "J.aJke" For
mer of His Campaign.
Expenses.
WASHINGTON, Feb. 19.-Senator Clark,
of Montana, was again today the star
witness before the senate committee on
privileges and elections, notwithstanding
Dr. Treacey was also heard. Treacey,
Justice Hunt's physician, occupied the
-entire forenoon sitting and a part of the
afternoon session. His statement con
cerning his interviews with Justice Hunt
corroborated the testimony of the justice
In all essential details, except that his
recollection was that $50,000 and not $109,000
was the amount mentioned by him as the
price which the justice would get for hav
ing the case throw h out of the supreme
court. He said Justice Hunt was an inti
mate friend, and he asserted his motive
to be. In taking the course he did; to test
his ability to withstand the corrupting In
fluence of money. He had received no
funds from any source to pay the bribe
suggested, and had been promised none
for that purpose.
Mr. Clark necessarily went over much
of the ground covered by him in his testi
mony Saturday. He was cross-examined
by Mr. Campbell, and insisted that he had ,
spent no money for corrupt purposes dur
ing the Montana senatorial campaign. Ha
gave a detailed, statement of expenditures
for political purposes during the legislative
and senatorial contests, which footed up,
aa Senator Turley announced, to $159,000.
He declared that his only purpose In en
tering upon the campaign was the over
throw of Mr. .Daly's rule in the state,
which, he said, was so tyrannical that he
would not desire to continue his residence
in the state ff it was to continue. It was
said today that Mr, Daly would go on
the stand In rebuttal. He is expected any
day. "
Senator Clark; gave place at the begin
ning of the session to Dr. Treacey. The
change was made in order to permit the
justices of the supremo court of Montana
to be present while Dr. Treacey was testi
fying, as his testimony was expected to
deal largely with the interview between
himself and Justice Hunt and Attorney
General Nolan. Before Dr. Treacey pro
ceeded, Chairman Chandler produced a
copy of the letter sent by Mr. Clark to
the republican caucus of the Montana
legislature. It was addressed to the
chairman of the caucus, and was as fol
lows: "Helena, Mont, Jan. 16, 1S99. Hon. S.
S. Hobson: Dear Sir In reply to your
valued favor of this date, requesting me
to define my position on the tariff ques
tion, I beg to state that I am In favor of
a high protective duty on wool, hides and
on every other product of this state, in or
der that producers of raw material shall
get an equitable advantage in the distri
bution of tariff duties. It Is manifest that
the present schedule is inadequate to dis
charge the expenses of the government,
and there will necessarily have to be an
Increase and readjustment The manufac
turing interests are entitled to enough to
protect them against cheap foreign labor,
and they should be satisfied to allow the
producers of raw material to have an
equal advantage. I maintain that no rep
resentative of this state in the national
congress should allow himself to be com
mitted by caucus or otherwise to any pol
icy that would be In conflict with or
prejudicial to the Interests of the state,
Youra sincerely, W. A. CLARK."
Dr. Treacey on the Stand.
Dr. Treacey was questioned, by Senator
Chandler. He testified that after arriving
in Washington, Saturday last, ho had met
Senator Faulkner, counsel for Senator
Clark. The first question asked referring
to the incident of August 5, the date of
his first Interview with Justice Hunt, re
ferred to his association on that day with
Mr. Corbett, J. S. M. Neill, Mr. Clark
and Judge Hunt. He said he had seen
JuMIce Hunt that day, but none of the
others mentioned. Dr. Treacey related all
his Interviews with Justice Hunt, and also
with Attorney-General Nolan. He began
with his first interview with Mr Hunt,
August 5 last and his report was a prac
tical repetition of Justice Hunt's testi
mony, except as to the amount named.
He said that at the first interview he had
invited the judge to his office and had
taken him into his operating-room, where
the interview occurred.
"I told the judge," said the witness,
"that I had a funny kind of proposition
to make to him." The witness then went
oh to say that he had told the justice of
the arrival In Helena of a special train,
and said he told the judge that there was
a party there that would give $50,000 if he
would dismiss the Wellcome disbarment
case. The 1udge promptly said that he
could not consider such a proposition, and
left. He had also seen Justice Hunt later
in the afternoon, at the latter's own home,
and had renewed the suggestion of the
forenoon. He said he had told the judge
of the rumors that he was under Mr.
Daly's influence and that the latter would
Insure his re-election. The witness then
said he had told the judge that If he could
decently do so, he would like to see him
get the money to be had out of the case.
The judge had refused at both times to
entertain th'e proposition as he had at a
subsequent interview three or four weeks
later.
Dr Treacey said he had never had any
authority from any one to make a prop
osition of bribery to Mr. Hunt, but he
had not told the judge of this circum
stance, until he was notified that Judge
Hunt was to be summoned to Washing
ton. He had then told the judge that
he had no $50,000 or $100,000 to offer him,
and no authority from any one to make
such an offer.
Referring to his Interviews with Attorney-General
Nolan, the witness said that
when he spoke to that gentleman about
the Wellcome case the latter replied: "I've
got 'em over a barrel."
"I told him," said the witness, "that
he'd better get $100,000 out of the business,
destroy his stenographic notes, and get out
of the business. He seemed to feel pretty
good-over it"-continued the witness, "and
I took It that he thouprht It a erood idea.
It was all pure 'Josh,' and he knew it
was-"
After a second interview the attorney
general had given him a half dozen dUcks,
and the next day had sent him a piece
of venison. Asked from whom the sug
gestion came that he should approach
Judge Hunt as he had done, Dr. Treacey
replied:
"They came from no person. I had
known him for 10 years, and admired him
more than any other man in the state.
My only motive was to test his official
Integrity and to find out whether he was
all right I had heard rumors that he was
Identified with the Daly people, and there
were many rumors unpleasantly Involving
his name. I wanted to know about them."
"Then," suggested Senator Chandler,
"you went deliberately to work to test the
virtue of your friend as a Judge?"
"I did," was the reply, "and I am very
sorry for it"
Continuing, ho explained that he had ex
pected a more indignant protest at the
first Interview than he 'had received.
Asked what "party" he meant to refer to
when he had told Judge Hunt that he
could get $50,000 or $100,000 out of the case,
the witness said he "did not mean any
body." "Then you told him what was not true?"
"I did. I might as well have told him
that he could get a million."
The witness said he knew of the' pres
ence in Helena of the special train from
Butte which had brought Mr. Corbett, C.
W. Clark and others from Butte the day
he first spoke to Judge Hunt, and had
heard the gossip that the supreme court
was to be bought He had also heard
that at that time Marcus Daly's private
car was there to take Judge Hunt's chil
dren away. Public gossip was. he said.
1 constantly associating Justice Hunt's
name with that of Marcus Daly, and
there was much talk that he was to be
corrupted. He could not, however, give
the name of any one person from whom
he had heard the intimation.
Dr. Treacey said that, while a. repub
lican in politics, he had favored Mr.
Clark's election to the senate.
At the afternoon session,. Dr. Treacey
said that he had met Mr. Corbett Satur
day night, after his arrival in Washing
ton; but that he had not talked with him
concerning his testimony before this com
mittee. After his" arrival here he had en
gaged an attorney, "because I wanted to
see where I was at." After seeing the
headlines In the Chicago papers, he had
thpught It possible that he might be
looked upon as a criminal. Upon his ar
rival in Washington he had also seen Mr.
Wellcpme, Charley Clark and Mr. Faulk
ner, but that he had not talked with them
at any length concerning this case.
Senator Clark Recalled.
Senator Clark was then recalled. He
said he had 'gone to Helena from Butte,
January 4, 1SS9, Just after the meeting of
the legislature, but that he had carried
with him no more money than he usually
carried. Senator Clark detailed the trans
action with Representative McLaughlin,
whereby he became owner of certain Um
zer land owned by McLaughlin. He said
tha Anaconda company had practically
secured a monopoly of the timber of the
state. He had then asked Mr. Bickford,
who had lived at Missoula, to look out
for any opportunity to buy timber. The
latter had reported Mr. McLaughlin s
ownership of timber land, together with
other valuable property, and he had au
thorized Mr. Bickford to make the pur
chase. The property pad been secured at
a reduction McLaughlin had made after
he (Clark) had had an Interview with him,
in December, 1S9S. At this interview he
had agreed with McLaugnlln to organize
the Western Lumber Company, and to
make McLaughlin manager at a salary of
$200 a month.
Replying to a question from Mr. Faulk
ner, Senator Clark said: "There was never
a word said during my personal Interview
with Mr. McLaughlin, either by him, Mr.
Bickford or myself, concerning the sena
torial contest."
Mr. Clark here submitted a statement
showing expenditures on political account
made by him from August 1, 1S98, to Sep
tember 1, 1899. So far as the expendi
tures referred to the senatorial apd pre
ceding the legislative campaign, they were
as follows:
August 12. 1S93, C. W. Clark.., $35,000
October 17, C. W. Clark 20,000
October 20, Walter Cooper 2C0
November 5, L. O. Leonard 259
November 7, G. H. Padley 250
.November 7, L. O. Leonard 150
November 9, J. H. Miles 100
November 9, Thomas Klllgallon,.-... 20
November 10, C. H. Padley 200
November 11, John Leary 50
November 23, C. W. Clark 40,000
November 23, A. J. Davidson 5,000
January 6, 1899, C. H. Padley....,.,.. 250
February 4, Z. T. Cason...., 500
February 6, George Alderman '250
February 13, C. W. Clark 20,592
February 14, J. B. Wellcome 18,000
February 27, J. B. Wellcome SO
March 2. Wellcome 250
March 2, Wellcome for John Simpson 400
April 15, C. W. Clark 950
Other items were given covering the ex
penses of the campaign last spring.
The senator cald, in addition to these
sums, he had made Messrs. Wellcome,
McDermott and E. C. Day each a pres
ent of $8000, but he did not consider these
donations in the nature of political expen
ditures. All these men had given a great
deal of time to promoting his Interests,
and he had been very glad to make the
presents. None of them had expected pay
and no money had been given them on
their personal account after the senatorial
election. Mr. Clark said that all the large
sums paid to C. W. Clark, Wellcome and
Davidson had been paid to carry out the
agreement which he had entered into to
pay the expenses of the proposed campaign
to rescue the state from Daly. He had
asked no accounting from them, having
the utmost confidence in them. He did
not know what they had done with the
t- money.
Speaking of the reasops which led him
to go into the campaign, Mr. Clark said
his friends had represented that if there
was no change they were liable to move
out of the state.
"It was esHmated," he said, "that It
would take $35,000 to control the commit
tee, and that $75,000 would be necessary
to control the legislature. There was. no
limit, and I agreed to pay whatever might
be necessary., I, knew it would take a
great deal of money to carry the state
whereiso much money had been spent iu
previous elections."
Mr. Clark said, in response to Senator
Turley, that It was true that In the fiwt
state election, he, Governor Broadwater,
Governor Hauser and Mr. Daly eaqh had
contributed' $40,000 to the democratic cam
paign fund. Asked about the cost of the
contest over the location of the capital,
Mr. Clark said probably his old friends
of the opposition could tell more about
It than he could. He had, contributed
$100,000, and he thought the people of Hel
ena had raised over $100,000 to hold the
capital. It was common report that the
opposition, the Anaconda company, had
spent $1,Q00,000 to locate the capital at Ana
conda. It had not occurred to him that the
large sums he had contributed would be
used Illegally.
"I am sure," he said, "that in the sena
torial contest no money was spent to in
fluence votes llllgltlmately. If you knew
the conditions which existed In Montana
you would not marvel at the heavy outlay.
The election was for the purpose of over
throwing the one-man power of Mr. Daly,
and this could not be done with any
meager sums. Everything wa3 conducted
in such a high-handed manner that nobody
could expect to receive recognition until
he bent the knee or crawled In the dust
to those people. If I thought the despot
ism should continue, I should tremble for
the future, and would not want my family
to remain there."
He had, he said, personally seen men
paid money for their votes in 1898.
"Did you prosecute them?" asked Sen
ator Chandler.
"I did not," was the reply. "It was
useless to do so, as the Anaconda com
pany owned the political machinery To
ask to have a man arrested would have
been as useless as to try to buck up
against a cyclone."
The cross-examination was then begun.
It was conducted by Mr Campbell, whose
first question referred to Mr. Clark's tes
timony to the effect that he had seen
men paid for their votes during the elec
tion of 1898. The witness did not, he said,
know the men either paying or receiving
the money. He knew they were not on his
side. Taking up the political move for the
defeat of the Daly organization, Mr. Clark
said he had not, In the beginning, any
especial condldates, but that their pur
pose was to "get some one who wuld give
us a fair deal."
"Was it not generally understood," asked
Mr. Campbell, "that Mr. Daly favored Lee
Mantle, a silver-republican, for senator?
"It was generally talked of," was the re
ply, "but I have no personal knowledge of
that I forbade all use of my name at the
beginning, wanting first of all to defeat
fusion and break the power of Marcus
Daly."
"you made a combination, did you not,
with the gold republicans, to carry the
election In Butte?"
"There was a combination made, but
there are no gold republicans there that
I know of."
"Then you had changed your opinion
concerning fusion between August and
October?"
"I was In favor of any combination of
respectable people that would break down
tbe Infamous organization which controlled
the Butte primaries your organization,
which had become fco notorious."
Mr. CampbeH questioned Mr. Clark
closely about the donation of $5000 to Day.
wljlch Mr Clark raid he had given four
davs after his election to the senate.
The witness said: "Mr. Day was a
member of the legislature and represent
ed pur forces in the contest for speaker
of the Montana house of representatives,
he being a candidate for that office." Mr.
Day. he added, was the recognized leader
In the house of the Clark forces.
"Why did you give him the $500""
"I did It In consideration of my frlend-
ship for Day and for the work performed
by him in trying to organize the legis
lature and his work la controlling our
forces. I recognized that he was worthy
of this consideration. Furthermore. w
expected more or less litigation, of whfeb.
Mr. Day was to take charge. This is all
X have paid him and all that he has
been paid, so far as 1 know."
In reply to Mr. Campbells questions
concerning the testimony given by Sen
ator Clark In Montana, the senator in
sisted that previous to the Whiteside, ex
posure he had given no money to Mn
Wellcome. Pressed to say whether ae
had not asked his sop whether he had not
given Mr. Wellcome the money wnen
Whiteside had turned over to the state,, fee
replied:
"I did not I did net believe a word
of It I would not insult him or Mp. Well
come by asking about It"
Mr. Clark said ha kept his own private
books, but that he had destroyed the
checks covering the session if the legis
lature. "I generally destroy my checks about
every six months, and I think I de
stroyed these about the same time of my
return from Europe, fn May, 1S9B."
Mr. Clark thought however, that the
records of the bank would show the facts.
Referring to the JBOOO given Davidson No
vember 23, Mr. Clark declared that the
money was expended in the state cam
paign and before he had decided, to be a
candidate.
"My motive was far Wgher than that
of promoting my own candldaey." said
Mr. Clark. "The movement was intend
ed to control the state In the interests
of pure democracy."
"You were bound to purify politics,
whatever the cost?" suggested Mr. Bur
rows. "I don't look at it In that light, at all,"
.replied the witness.
The committee adjourned for the day
with Senator Clark's- examination still In
progress.
FIXAXCIAL BILL CONFERENCE.
Senate and Horace Conferees Getting
Further Apart.
WASHINGTON, Feb. 19. The conferees
on the financial bill met again today and
made some progress. Assistant Treasurer
Jordan, of New York, was with the con
ferees some time, giving his views upon
the administrative features of the bill.
Although In the main the discussion waa
general and preliminary, considerable sub
stantial progress was made. The con
sideration of the phraseology of the es
tablishing of the gold Btaridard under
section 1, and the international bimetallle
provision in section 9, of the- same bill,
have been deferred until other features
on which the houses are nearer together
can be considered. These features were
taken up today, and an effort was- made
to see whether the differences were mere
ly of phraseology and not of principle.
About the most Important .advanee was
on section 5, of the senate bill, as to the
denomination of notes. Messrs. Broslus
and Overstreet, the house conferees,
strongly urged the need of a greater vol
ume of small notes than would be given
under the senate restriction. The need
of this was shown to be particularly urgent
at the time of moving crops. A. middle
ground was finally hit upon, by wMch
it is estimated that the small notes of $5
and under will not be reduced below their
present volume of $380,000.00, The ar
rangement is felt to be quite satisfactory,
and it will doubtless be inaorporated In
the final agreement
At the afternoon session less progress
was made than In the morning, and when
the session closed the conferees found
themselves further apart than they were
at noon.
THE WARDNEIt RIOTS.
House Committee Begins Its Inves
tigation. WASHINGTON, Feb. 19, The Investi
gation of the charges as to the conduct of
the United States military forees under
General .Merriam during the Idaho mining
troubles last summer began today before
the house committee on military affairs.
Governor Steunenberg, of Idaho, the state
auditor, General Merriam, ex-Master
Workman Sovereign, of the Knights of
Labor; E. J. Flanlgan, of; the Idao legis
lature, and Magistrate A. T". Mullan, of
Idaho, and a considerable delegation of
miners from the Coeur d'Alene district
were present The entire time was con
sumed discussing manner of procedure.
Several members wanted Lentz, who
started the Inquiry, to act as complain
ant and prosecutor, but he declined to
accept the position, and urged there should
be a free and full Investigation, He said
there was no partisanship In the Investi
gation, and he merely wished to get at
the charges which labor organizations re
garded as serious and whioh were widely
made In the press. Representative Marsh,
of Illinois, also urged that as Lentz had
formulated the charges he should pro
ceed in his own way. There should be a
full Investigation "so that it could not be
said anything was smothered." Chairman
Hull did not think the committee cquld
abdicate Its functions to Lentz. Marsh
resented this remark as a misrepresenta
tion of his position, and Hull disavowed
any such purpose. A resolution by Hay,
of Virginia, that the complaining wit
nesses be first examined, was debated at
length.
The committee adjourned until tomor
row morning, when its exact line of pro
cedure will be adopted and. examination, of
witnesses begun.
Pension for W T. McMaster.
WASHINGTON, Feb. 19. Senator Mc-
Brlde has Introduced a "bill to pension W.
T. McMaster, of Oregon, at $50 a month.
POLES ARE PLOTTING.
To Free Tneir Land From the Rust
sian Yoke.
CHICAGO, Feb. 19. Leaders In Polish
national circles of this city, say there is a
secret National Polish League, which la
extended throughout Europe' and America,
and that it had existed not only for 11
years, but ever since tbe break, up of, the
last struggle for Poland's independence In
1863. One of the leaders said:
"The secret organization has not been
plotting against any government, but for
the freeing of Poland by force of arms or
any other method. During the last few
weeks the Polish national organizations
In this city, which have no connection with
the secret league, have been receiving in
formation that the Russian government
has resumed persecution of the Pdles, and
that wholesale arrests are being made in
Warsaw, the seat of the so-called central
committee of the national league.
"The league began a spirited agitation on
December 9 of last year, when a circular
was Issued from Warsaw, appealing to all
Poles to equip themselves both mentally
and physically, so that In case of need they
might be ready to serve the cause of free
ing Poland. The circular called on all
Poles to continue the agitation for Poland
and to study and propagate Polish na
tional spirit Since the publication of the
circular, books and pamphlets' which, be
cause of their intense Polish patriotic ex
pression are prohibited in Poland by Rus
sia, have been printed in Chicago and
other cities sent to Europe, placed lq
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of the recent arrests in Lemeerg, Frank;
H. Jabionaki, president of the Polish Na
tional Alliance of America, said:
''We have been receiving information
about the numerous arrests in Warsaw,
but that arrests nave been made in Lem
berg is a surprise to us. All we can say
Is that the coming events oast their shad
ows before them. That there is a secret
Peitsh national government or league, with
a seat in Warsaw, is true and public. Who
the members are I cannot tell you. The
plan Is to have a general uprising In Po
land in case of war between Russia and
England, and it is in line with that plan
that many Poles are being leeruited Into
Erigllsb regiments from Warsaw and other
places, and sent, not to the Transvaal, as.
some correspondents would mistake, but
into Asia, where the first clash is expected
with Russia. Of course, men from Aus
trian Poland would assist their fellow
countrymen, and that may be a reason for
the arrests."
KNOCKED OUT BY SHARKEY
Jim Jeffords Was Finished ia the
Second Round.
DBTROIT, Feb. M. Tom Sharkey to
night knocked out Jim Jeffords, the Cal
ifornia aspirant for heavyweight honors,
in the second round of- what was to have
been a le-round bout The men had
fought two mlmttine ami six efteoada in
the second round when tbe knock-out
blow was delivered. They were breaking
(from a clinch when Sharkey whipped
his right over to the Californlan's head,
and Jeffords went down. Referee Hogan
counted him out, and it was several min
utes before he recovered sufficiently to
talk. Then he claimed a foul, saying
Sharkey hit htm in the 'breakaway, al
though they had agreed to break clean.
The referee, however, awarded the fight
to Sharkey.
Gilbert Won the Championship.
HOT SPRINGS, Fab. . The contest
today between Fred Gilbert, of Spirit
Lake, la., and J. A. R. Sllfott, of Kansas
City, at m birds each, for the Chee cup
and for the world's championship as a
target-shot, resulted in Gilbert's favor by
a score of 13S to 136.
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Newfoundland Ministry Defeated,
ST. JOHN'S, N. F., Feb. H The colo
nial legislature mat this afternoon, and
the government law upon the table a
formal 'address thanking the governor.
Sir Hugh, McCallum, for the speech from
the throne. The opposition moved a. want
of confidence in the ministry. The regu
lar opposition was headed by Mr. Bond.
The aggregation numbered M In the divi
sion, the ministry having only nine. Thla
defeat involves the resignation of the cab
inet of Sir James Winter, which, is ex
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