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THE DAILY ASTORIAN • THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 23, 2017
Poll: Many want to
avoid political talk
this Thanksgiving
By LAURIE KELLMAN
and EMILY SWANSON
Associated Press
The Daily Astorian
The Astoria Downtown Historic District Association will hold the annual downtown holiday lighting Saturday evening.
Downtown Astoria dons plaid, lightens up
The Daily Astorian
The Astoria Downtown Historic Dis-
trict Association will hold a holiday
shopping season kickoff Friday through
Sunday.
The first event is Plaid Friday, when
shoppers are encouraged to wear plaid
and shop local as an alternative to Black
Friday. Select downtown businesses will
be giving raffle tickets to customers for
a downtown shopping spree. Those who
shop at three or more participating stores
will earn a reusable canvas shopping bag.
For a full list of participating businesses,
visit http://tinyurl.com/y8y69elc
The winner of the raffle will be
announced during the downtown holi-
day lighting in front of the Liberty The-
ater at 12th and Commercial streets 5:30
p.m. Saturday.
‘Green Friday’ urges people to ‘opt outside’
State wildlife,
parks waive
some fees, rules
Take a hike
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Instead of shopping Black
Friday deals after Thanksgiv-
ing, Oregon’s parks and wild-
life departments want people
to celebrate “Green Friday.”
The Oregon Department of
Fish and Wildlife is waiving
all fishing licensing require-
ments in areas open to recre-
ational fishing on Friday and
Saturday so people can “opt
outside” with friends and
family over the long holiday
weekend.
The waiver includes all
fishing, crabbing and clam-
ming across the state.
Some crabbing restric-
tions are in place due to ele-
vated levels of the marine
toxin domoic acid and ocean
crabbing is closed. Recre-
ational crabbing is open in
bays and estuaries, docks,
piers and on beaches from
Coos Bay’s north jetty to
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A steelhead salmon leaps out of the water after being
hooked by Tim Trainor during a fishing trip on the North
Fork Nehalem River in 2016. State parks and wildlife de-
partments are waiving fishing licensing requirements for
Friday and Saturday.
Tahkenitch Creek and north
of Cape Foulweather to the
Columbia River.
The department stocked
lakes and reservoirs across
Oregon with trout at the begin-
ning of the month.
Some western Oregon
lakes were restocked the week
of Thanksgiving, includ-
ing Progress Lake in Tigard,
Waverly Lake in Albany, Far-
aday Lake in Estacada, Walter
Wirth Lake and Walling Pond
in Salem, and Alton Baker
Canal in Springfield, among
others.
Winter steelhead also
become available at this time,
with Thanksgiving typically
marking the beginning of the
season on the coast.
Prefer a hike? The Ore-
gon Parks and Recreation
Department is waiving day-
use parking fees in 26 of the
state’s parks the day after
Thanksgiving.
“We started this tradition
three years ago to encour-
age people to opt outside,”
said Director Lisa Sumption
in a statement. “Why not get
some fresh air with your fam-
ily and create a new holiday
tradition?”
The nonprofit Oregon State
Parks Foundation is celebrat-
ing by offering free hot drinks
and snacks at a number of
state parks including at Fort
Stevens State Park outside
Hammond.
The refreshments will be
served by volunteers from
local friends groups. Fort Ste-
vens requires a parking fee
at its Coffenbury Lake site,
where there is a boat launch,
picnic areas and a hiking trail
around the dune lake.
For a list of parks that
require
day-use
park-
ing permits, visit bit.ly/
OregonStateParksParking
Park Service extends comment period for proposed fee hike
Associated Press
GRAND
CANYON
NATIONAL PARK, Ariz. —
The National Park Service is
giving people more time to
weigh in on a proposed fee
increase at 17 of its most pop-
ular parks.
Visitors would be charged
$70 per vehicle, up from the
current $30 fee, during the five
busiest months of the year. At
others, the hike is from $25 to
$70.
The comment period had
been scheduled to end today.
The new deadline is Dec. 22.
The Park Service said it
wanted to accommodate inter-
est from Congress and the
public. More than 65,000
comments already have been
submitted.
Most of the 17 sites are
in the West, including Grand
Canyon, Yosemite, Yellow-
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Third dread
discussions
Rogers is among more
than a third of Americans
who say they dread the pros-
pect of politics coming up
over Thanksgiving, com-
pared with just 2 in 10 who
say they’re eager to talk pol-
itics, according to a new poll
by the Associated Press-
NORC Center for Public
Affairs Research. Four in
10 don’t feel strongly either
way.
Democrats are slightly
more likely than Republicans
to say they’re uneasy about
political discussions at the
table, 39 percent to 33 per-
cent. And women are more
likely than men to say they
dread the thought of talking
politics, 41 percent to 31
percent.
Those who do think
AP Photo/Evan Vucci
President Donald Trump
pardons Drumstick during
the National Thanksgiving
Turkey Pardoning Cere-
mony in the Rose Gar-
den of the White House in
Washington on Tuesday.
there’s at least some possibil-
ity of politics coming up are
somewhat more likely to feel
optimistic about it than Amer-
icans as a whole. Among this
group, 30 percent say they’d
be eager to talk politics and
34 percent would dread it.
The debate over whether
to talk politics at Thanksgiv-
ing is about as American as
the traditional feast itself. By
Christmas 2016, 39 percent
of U.S. adults said their fam-
ilies avoided conversations
about politics, according to
the Pew Research Center.
Debate over standards
But Americans are still
trying to figure out how to
talk about the subject in the
age of Trump and amid the
sexual misconduct allega-
tions that have ignited a new
debate over standards for
conduct between men and
women. The conversation,
some analysts and respon-
dents say, touches on iden-
tity among people who group
themselves by other factors,
such as family, friendship or
geography.
Ten months into Trump’s
difficult presidency, he
remains a historically unpop-
ular president and a deeply
polarizing force in the United
States. His drives to crack
down on immigration in the
name of national security and
the economy cut right to the
question of who is an Ameri-
can. And his defense on Tues-
day of Republican U.S. Sen-
ate candidate Roy Moore,
the former Alabama judge
accused by six women of
pursuing romantic relation-
ships with them when they
were teenagers and he was in
his 30s, comes amid a wider
deluge of sexual misconduct
scandals.
For any mention of
Moore, who denies the accu-
sations against him, there’s
Franken of Minnesota, who
has apologized or said he
feels bad about the allegations
against him.
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stone, Zion and Mount Rain-
ier. Fort Clatsop National
Memorial is not on the list.
The Park Service says it
would raise $70 million annu-
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revenue would fund main-
tenance and infrastructure
projects.
WASHINGTON — Pass
the turkey — but maybe hold
the politics. The already-
fraught topic now includes
allegations of sexual mis-
conduct against politicians of
various political stripes.
From GOP President
Donald Trump to Demo-
cratic Sen. Al Franken, politi-
cians past, present and aspir-
ing stand accused of sexual
misconduct and that could
keep tensions high at the hol-
iday table. More than a third
of Americans dread the pros-
pect of politics coming up
over Thanksgiving, a new
poll shows.
Glenn Rogers, a Republi-
can from Los Angeles, says
he asks people around the
table to talk about things to
celebrate from the past year.
Not everyone, he knows,
will be toasting the Trump
presidency.
“For the most part, we get
to the point where we know
that we’re not going to agree
with each other and it gets
dropped,” says the 67-year-
old manufacturing consul-
tant, who says he voted less
for Trump than against Dem-
ocrat Hillary Clinton.
With a cascade of sex-
ual misconduct scandals
now echoing similar allega-
tions against Trump during
the campaign, tempers on
the subject of Trump may
not have cooled, says Rog-
ers. “When you start talking
about it now, there’s still
some, I think, real animosity
when you start talking about
character.”
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