SOMETHING
NOTHING
GAM
E
BAD PLAY FOR MERCHANT AND
CUSTOMER.
WANT LAWS TO ABOLISH IT,
Trading Stamp and Premium
Schemes are Played Out
CITY
30th YEAR.
OREGON CITY, ORE., FRIDAY, JAN. 24, 1313.
No. 37
. Wednesday and Thursday of
this week the Oregon Retail Mer
chants' Association held its an
nual convention in Albany, and
now a committee will go to Salem
and ask that a bill be introduced
abolishing the trading stamps in
uregon.
Tacoma, Wash., now imposes a
. fine of $100 annually on all mer-
cnants who give trading stamps
ana the lederal courts have sus
tained the ordinance.
You may talk about the family
senuing to sears, Roebuck & Go
for merchandise, but this trading
siamp Dusiness is just as bad.
The east long ago cut it out be
cause the dealers themselves re
alized that it was working dead
wrong, that only the few were be
ing benefitted (or thought they
, were oeing) and that it was sim
ply driving the rest to the mail
order houses where they did not
nave to pay for the others' trad
ing stamps and premiums.
This system of stamps, prizes,
contests and premiums is all dead
wrong, and the consumers are
getting wise to it.
Customers have the idea (they
may be right or wrong) that they
nave to pay ror those premiums
just the same if they do get them
', given to them in exchange for a
dook or stamps, and the customer
!who does not save them for him
self, or herself, but who gives
them to her neighbor, thinks he
or she is having to help pay for
the premium twice and then
does not get a look at it.
And the contest that is worse
than the stamps. Only one can
win, but the customers line up and'
take sides with the contestants,
,and when the weeks and month
of campaigning are over, one per
son win. out and the rest are
disappointed, then they are sick of
the whole job and just ripe for the
catalogue house to do business,
with.. . r
Where is the newspaper that
ever had anything to hold sub
scribers on that ever found a con
( test or prize scheme profitable?
,i ine wnoie system or prizes
' ' trading stamps, contests and
guessing schemes are for the pur.
pose of getting trade that is un
natural, of hiring people to pat
. ronize them and such a trade is
not worth the getting, and it will
not stick
' Here is the way Coliers, that
national newspaper, sizes up the
niatter:
We know few instutions
better deserving attention
from such machinery of sup
pression as public" opinion
possesses than those news
paper contests which pur
' port to discover the ten most
popular school teachers .or
the ten most beautiful sten-
ographers. Do the relatives
and friends of these young
women realize that they are
being daubed with vulgarity
to make money for newspap-
ers' whose heed has become
extreme by the time they ad
opt this device?
There is nothing to this some
hitng for nothing business and
the people' know it. ,' '
IThe big trading stamp syndi
cates have a soft snap on , the
pfemiums, but the merchant must
go down .on the expense list for
about five per cent of his sales or
he must raise the price of certain
goods the people are not too fa
, miliar with to get this back and
Ihe people have an idea this is
just about what: he does, ;and
that they are indirectly paying for
the printing of the stamps and the
premiums that come from way
back east the place where YOU
must not buy your goods from,
but the place where the MER
CHANT gets his from. -
- If the merchants -would get to
gether on this matter and cut out
the stamps, and give the people
sale dates and the price of these
stamps and premiums in special
prices, how much better the peo
ple, would feel and how much bet-
, ter the trade would be ror tne
.merchants. -
" You can't find a trading stamp,
a premium or a contest in the
"cast. They all tried it, and they
all quit it quit it before it fin
ished them. -
The manager of one of the big
gest mercantile concers in west
ern New York told the Courier ed
itor the trading stamp and con
test business injured their busi
ness to an extent that it took
four years to get back after the
schemes had been stopped. He
-said it simply drove customers to
)the catalogue houses, but they
never realized it until they dis
continued the contests then they
found that the better class of
trade, thouse who knew there was
nothing in the something-for-nothing
game, had gone to trade
with the mail order houses. t
The merchants of this city
should form an association, cut
out the hiring trade schemes, and
put on a series of sales that would
reach out and bring in a class of
trade this city does not get.
They could take the same mon
ey they put into stamps and pre
miums put it into reduced prices
give all the people the benefit of
the bargain (instead, of the few)
and bring in a line or business we
do not have now and will never
get through trading stamps.
The people ought not to be
compelled to ask for state law or
ordinance protection against the
stamps and contest schemes, the
merchants should see the folly of
thing ror nothing business and
cut them out. , ' :
LET GEORGE DO IT?
But What Variety of Newspapers
Would Wo Publish?
A Newberg business man
whose name does not appear
on the mailing list of either
of the home papers, recently '
approached the Graphic with
a broad hint that we should
"write up" a certain man
who sent to Portland to get
some work done, when said
business man was sure he
could have given as good sat
isfaction as the Portland
man rendered. Let George do
it. Newberg Graphic.
It's the same old story. When
the matter of a public elevator
came up here the business men
of Seventh street patted the Cour
ier on the back until it was sore
for the way we boosted for it, for
it meant much to these' business
men, but nine out of ten ef them
had to borrow the Courier to
read what we were doing for
them. ,
On the matter of a pure water
supply these business men of the
hill section are fully awake to the
importance, and they' know what
a refusal of the city to take act
ion would do toward building up
the west side. They pat us on the
back for boosting their game and
RAISE LESS TRUCK
E STOCK
M
DAIRYING AND SWINE RAISING
ARE MONEY MAKERS.
WIRES TAKE UP THESE TOPICS
Get Blooded Foundation Stock
'and Get Rich.
The only-objection one Can have
with the Live Wires these days is
that there is not time enough, and
the fellows have to jump to get a
chance to say anything. But this
is lar better than to have to prod
members to get them started. It
shows an interest in matters and
a healthy condition of the club.
Darying and live stock raising
that he had had the same analyzed
in Portland; that there was con
siderable sediment arid orgajnic
matter, but no typhoid germs.
C. H. Dye heartily endorsed the
proposition of incouraging live1!
stock breeding and agricultural
stock breding and darying; that
we had a better sou than any
county in the valley and that we
could make these pursuits a great
success in this county.
G. L. Hedges related how one
man was getting io per cent per
month interest from one cow nine
years old and that was valued at
$75. x . . ; '
On the various subjects that
came before the members at a re
cent meeting, President Cross ap
pointed committees for each and
he says he expects these commit
tees to dig in and report on every
one of them, and if they are what
A
BILL TO KILL,
HELP TO KILL IT
A MOTHERS' PENSION BILL
WITH BIG JOKER
Class Legislation and the Widest
Discrimination.
There has been or will be intro
duced at Salem, a Mothors' pen
sion bill. On the face of it this
looks good, and any fellow with a
urn noorl onH nrotuifhin nnr Tuonh I
nrnnnaoa c cm attar IKiartt
' I heart in the right snot will Just
say goou
ALL BUT FINISHING.
read the title and
thing, let's have it."
And there is the trouble with
too many of us we only read the
Locks Canal has Only Few Thou-,uues a"d ,.B1l lhem ""P m Jkers
. ' . .enough to block a highway,
sand Miles More of Red Tape. This mother8 penion bill fts
The Courier stated two weeks we understand it, should never
cnrnA in for hio- nmi nnii iit , aK. ar,d 11 wasn t a guess but a puss, ior the reason it is rank
ing time of Tuesday's meeting statement. that it was expected class legislation, open discrimin
and every man was anxious and lransfer of( the fa'ls cks a"n and ,.drawn for a certain
ron.iv in nn hi. faat J u i the government would be com-. class of mothers and children.
to uush the nrnipM ninn pleted by the 18th of the month.1 .As we understand the proposed
Live Wires realize what this will' Ilwas a bum steer and a lonir I mil i
There has been a stronar nrein
dice against it from the first and
unless the legislature heeds the
protest and abolishes the law the
voters will certainly continue
the protests and in Oregon you
know the voters can pretty nearly
sei wiiut mey want when they be
come sufficiently aroused.
Get Ready for It.
Washington's birthday. Febru.
ry a, is tne date ror the fti nm.
bia Hook & Ladder Co's 43d annu-
uance. It is the event of the
year and will of course have
great crowd. Fox's full orchestra
or Portland will furnish the in
spiration.
ize what this will
mean to the county, and they are
going to get in the game and do
all they can to in every way as
sist the farmers in making this
industry the main line instead of
the side line. . ' -
-' W. A. Shewman, editor of the
Western Stock. Journal, was the
text speaker, and then the others
then read their neighbor's paper;
But it 8 a part of the newspap
er game and one must play the
njuring our own business, and 'joined, in.) Shewman gave a most
lnterosting-and practical talk on
what, dairying and swine raising,
when gone into right, will do for
cards as they come. If the news any community, and he showed
papers always waited for George how it would particulary advance
to do" it, and only boosted' those this county for the reason that it
who boosted them, they would be is especially adapted to this pur-
weak sisters in a community.
Pleaded Not Guilty. t
G. W. Taylor of Canby, pleaded
not guilty to the charge of criml
inal intimacy with his adopted
daughter before Judge . Campbell
in the Circuit Court Saturday. He
will be tried. . , . s
Holds Up Road Levy. j
Robert Clark, who lives in road
district 44, asked Judge Campbell
to restrain the district from levy
ing a 10-mill assessment, and the
judge granted; the order. Clark
claims that he was . prevented
from voting at the road meetings1;
that if he had been allowed to vote
the count would have been a tie
and the levy could not have been
authorized. :. i
Boy 8 tabs Himself.
The little son of John. Costello
of Redland, was playing with .-a
jack-knife and in trying to close
the blade he pushed it against nis
abdomen. ..The. blade slipped
through his clothing andpenetra-
ted his body, piercing the ;iver.
Dr. Mount rushed the lad to the
city hospital where it was found
the knife blade had severed the
end of the liver. The wound was
dressed and he is fast recovering.
Frost Arrests Troublemaker, i
Constable Jack Frost arrested a
man named Roy Ellis Saturday
night, turned him over to 'Sheriff
Mass and Justice Samson fined
him sn nr IRVIava'in iail.
The man was -drunk, constable
Frost says, and iiewent to the
home of William Bruce on DivifiL
ion street and demanded hospital
ity, Bruce fed him but the fellow
became quarrelsome, started &
rough-house, and drove the fairi-
ly . out. into the snow. Bruoe
could not find a policeman so he
called on Constable Jack Frost,
who gathered him in. The fellow
had a partner and both had been
drinking and panhandling.
way from facts. The date will
come nearer the 18th of next
August for the final title business
; for here is the spool of red tape
; that tired old deod has to b
, wound from yet:
To the U. S. district attorney
for him to run his legal eye ovar
and see if the "be the same more
or less" is in proper order; then
to General Bixby, who doesa t
know any more about deeds than
the Courier editor does about as
tronomy; then the attorney gen
eral of the U. S. will have a look
and see there are chains and link
enough to mate it hold; then Bix
by will have another look to see
.the attorney general observed all
suit. . Ha staled that $12,000,000
Af ilnirtr ni.irliinf u A t(i AHA ! rf
nrtrir 'nriH 9r nun Ann i ' (otlthe periods and comas, and ther,
n hru (Ki ." V it will go to the Secretary of War
Stimson, and if he fmds is all
dotted and t's all crossed and ih
document in "due and ancient
form," then will he put his O
on it and biff, we will be ready
to commence to prepare to dig
government ditch around the fall
of the Willamette
j
Maccabees Elect Officers!
The installation of officers of
the Order of Macabees took place
last week . when the. following
were installed-by State Comman
der Sherwood: Commander, F: E
Walling; Lietenant commander,
F. B. Hayward; record keeper, Jv
Follansbee; chaplain, G. B
Phillips; sergeant, William Bur-
gres; master-at-arms, , iouis
Conkliri; first master- of guards,
D. H. Bottemiller; second master
of guards, J. F '. Wallace i;-sentinel,
D. J. Finucane; picket, M.
Brungard; trustees,- A. B. Buck
les, C. W. Parish, F. Betzel. ;
The members pf this lodge
went to Portland on Thursday
evening, where they had been ex
tended an invitation to visit the
lodsre at that place. The special
car left here at 7:30 o'clock, i
Suggestions to Senator Dimlck
Senator Dimick has introduced
bill to abolish the mililiai We
farmers are in very stringent cir
cumstances and we. can do away
ith the militia and never jmiss
. We can not build $20,000 arm
ories with our school houses now
nder bonds.. We are not in favor
of war. We are for peace on earth
good will toward men. We t'aise
ogs and cattle for slaughter not
our sons. You are making good,
Mr. Dimick, as a servant of the
people on this line and iftyour
bill is lost have the law so amend
ed that none but millionaires can
enter the army, then corn stalks
will do as well as muskets.
were brought into this state for
consumption, while we might and
could: easily produce this import,
and ship to other states as well.
He showed how we had the soil,
the crops and everything partic
ularly adapted to dairying, live
stock and swine' raising, and he
cited how other places in the east
and . in: Washington state had
made of their localities the rich
est of communities by stock rais
ing and dairying and had changed
the 'kle of trade to a large bal
ance in their favor.' He said the
idea was to start right, get the
blooded foundation- stock and
then raise the crops 'this valley
was especially ' adapted to for
feed. He said the banks in many
places vere greatly aiding the
farmers to get the right sires for
their stock and ! that the : banks
here stood ready to help: He al
so advised that there be a live
stock exhibit in connection with
the coming booster; day celebra-l
tioa in May, and the suggestion
met with hearty support.
T. W. Sullivan , hydVaulic en
gineer. of the P. R. L. & P. Co.,
warmly endorsed Shewman's talk.
He said the welfare of any city de
pended on the welfare of the far-J
ming country and the- manufac
turing; that the manufacturing
was able totake care of itself (if
they were not tied down with in
jurious laws) but that the manu.
factories were ready and. anxious
to help any cause that would help
to niake the country more pros
perous; that this county was close
to a ready market, that it had the
soil and'.climatje for anything and
that live stock and dairying would
makej it a, rich country quicker
thai) any other- proposition.
O. E. A. Freytag stated how he
learned while in Chicago that the
state of Montana was shipping
hundreds of carload of swine in
to Portland,, and he could not un
derstand why the people right in
the front yard of the big city and
with everything that any country
could ask for, permitted this condition.
M. D.. Latourette suggested that
there be a live stock and swine
show, in connection with the May
booster, celebration. .. . .
Speaker Cross related how these
things started in a small way
grow into substantial industries
later on, and he illustrated it
by stating that he drew the origi
nal organization for the Clear
Creek Creamery for $10,000 which
had niw grown to upwards of
$100,000. He also cited how he
bought two pigs for $5 a piece, let
them run on the ranch, never paid
out a cent on them and sold them
for $35 each.
B. T. McBain spoke briefly on
the need of a pure water source
for the city. He said the city of
Salem, which takes its water from
the Willamette river, boiled the
water and had ever since that city
had the typhoid epedemic and that
the state capital had but in a wa
ter boiling plant. He said at the
opening of the legislature half of
the members were taken sick be
cause or drinking the river water
and it was necessary for the state
to boil it.
Dr. Picking brought up the mat
ter of an armory for the city and
Mr. McBain stated that the appro
priation for the state had been
exhausted and that unless the leg
islature made further appropria
tions there would be no more of
slate aid.
Mr. Olmstead of the Willam
ette Paper company, staled that
he had analyzed the sample of
water that M. J. Brown brought
before the Wires last week, and
Laws to Enforce Laws.
The Salem Messenger, c6m
menting on the bill of Represent
alive Chris Schuebel of this coun
ty, providing for the assessment
of appropriated, water power
says: "
This doesn't seem a bad
move, but we 'had all along
supposed that this very thing )
was one of the duties of the ,
state tax , commission the ?
assessment of appropriated',
water power and publio ser- ,.
vice corporation franchises. '
But in Oregon it seems to be
often necessary to make a law t
enforce a law. We see it in this
instance and in Governor West1?
bill permitting him to appoint
temporary sheriffs, district at
torneys and other officials, when
the regular officers will not do
their duties.
BEATING US TO IT.
West Side After Water System,
' While We Fuss and Talk.
Th; . eople of the west side are
not going to wait until the dry
months of next summer to inves
tigate a water supply for that side
of the river.
As the southerner would say
they have done investigated and
have let the contract for drilling
six wells 100 feet deep if neces
sary, for a water supply to sup.
ply the newly platted addition the
Willamette Paper Company will
build and also. to supply water for
all the west side and its projects,
down the river to Bolton. s
Last week the Courier pre.
dieted that this would be the out
come o f Oregon City's waiting
game, that the west side would
beat us to it, and that men who
value life more than loyalty
would be going over there to live,
The Willamette people are go
ing to build up their own little
city over there. This is not con
jecture but a certainity. They all
ready have the project all worked
out and ready to commence on
tne coing summer. The addition
will have all the city conveniences
including a sewer system, elec
tric lights, paved streets and an
artesian water supply. North of
this other projects are in view,
and the Southern Pacific or its
interests expect to build up a res
idence locality and manufactur
ing plants.
And the longer this city delays
getting a pure water supply the
more will it induce its citizens
who do not own homes, to go
over there and live, and the min
ute the west side beats us to pure
water, and can offer a man a
home to rent or buy, that man is
going t omove across the river.
And it seems so strange our
city does not wake up to this
matter. It is easy enough to stop
the exodus, but it will be the dev
il to bring them back when once
they cross the big bridge.
The first well will be drilled
near the WeRt Side School house,
where there are several springs
and it is hoped to find water that
will raise itself. If not other wells
will be sunk in different localities.
Us purpose is to pension
mothers (certain mothers) who
have children under 16 years old
If the pother has no income she
will bi given a pension of $10 a
month rfor the. prst child and $7.
50 for the others, until theyare
16 years ' bid, PROVIDING the
father is dead or is an inmate of
one of the Oregon institutions
There's the joker, the injustice,
and so big you can t jump over
it
It will provide a pension for the
children of a man who is in pris
on, but it will not provide for the
children of the man who has de
serted his children. ,
It will take cars of the man
who has debauched himself into
insanity, but it will not provide
for the little tots of the man who
has secured a divorce from their
mother and -married another
woman.
It will take care of one little
child and let the next one suffer
or accept charity.
It will provide home and com
forts for the child of a criminal
but force the waif, and the desert
ed to go to a charity institution.
It will provide for the children
of the dead father, but will not
aid the children of the devorced
mother.
The rank injustice of this prop
osition, the utter unfairness, is
that it visits on the children the
sins or follies of the father in one
family and pensions the sins and
follies in another,
The Courier is for a mothers'
pension seven days in the week,
but it is for a pension that will
help ANY child. The little tot is
not to blame for his father's acts,
and the child of a father who
abandoned it suffers just as keen
ly as the child of a man who i9
dead or insane.
To the everlasting credit of the
Woman's Club of this city, it re
fused to endorse this measure,
its members saw the injustice
and unfairness and turned it
down, but we are sorry too many
iff the women's organizations in
this state took the lobbyists' view
of the bill and swallowed it.
Every man and woman in Ore
gon should protest against the
passage of this infamous bill,
which is not only tho worst class
of injustice, but which would
place a aligma on hundreds of
little children in Oregon.
Start It, Mr Cross.
Years ago. Oresron Citv shnulH
have had a public dock. It would
nave paid big dividends in in
creased business and IowpppH
rales.', ii in one of the public im
provemenls we should stay with
until we get. A little' enthusiasm
and a pull all together will get it.
iur. t-ross, start it going.
Farmers Want This
Mr. Schuebel's bill to make ev
ery road supervisor a fire wardt
en, and permit slashings and
timber cuttings to be burned with
in the now closed season (under
certain conditions) is a bill the
farmers of this County hope to
sen a law. Under the present law
the open season is when fires will
not burn and it is a hard matter
to clear land.
Two Interesting Bills.
There are two minimum hour
bills for laborers introduced at
Salem that are being watched
with keen interest., and both in
troduced by representatives from
this city, one an eight hour day
applicable to the mills of this city
introduced ty Senator W, A.
Dimick, and the other, a ten hour
law, applying to any mill or fac
tory in Oregon.
Hoth bills will be bitterly od
posed. - .
COUNCII TAKES
READY
ACT!
UNANIMOUS i VERDICT FOR
PURE WATER SUPPLY.
$500 TO START THE WORK
Sources of 8updIv will ha at
Once Investigated.
Back to the Farm.
Representative F. M. Gill of
bHlacada, is going back to Wasco
county, cut out school teaching,
and tackle the simple life. The
papers state his father has deed
ed him a 200 acre farm there, and
if there is a legislator at Salem
who would not quit his job and
Ins county if given a 200 acre
farm, he must have some joker
Dills in nrosnect that will nav
pretty well. ...
Dimick Bombarding Militia.
General Finzer has found out
that Senator Dimick is about as
big as he and his whole army,
and there is going to be a deep
prone into Mr. Finzer, the naval
militia and. the national guard
nerore Oregon hands over anolh
er $25,000 appropriation.
Diinick's resolution to this ef
fect passed the senate, and Dim
ick and other senators stopped
the army lobyists from plugging
through the appropriation.
GENUINE WINTER WEATHER.
Willamette Valley Qets Tall of
California's Bad Storm .
Oregon has been having some
winter, the real winter tho tail
end of California's big blizzard
and the greatest fall of snow that
as been recorded in this valley
(so the oldest residents say) for
twenty years.
Last week Friday the clouds
imply opened and let down those
great soft, heavy flakes just as
thick as they could wedge in ana
Saturday morning there was a
foot of the white stuff, and every
conceivable arrangement that
What Is A License Good For?
F. M. Gill has introduced a
bill to prohibit hunting or fish
ing on another s premises with
out the consent of the owner, and
violation will be a fine of from
$25 to $300 or by imprisonment
from 25 to 100 days.
This puis tho hunter between
the devil and the deep sea. He
buys and pays for a license that
gives him the right to hunt and
when he goes out to exercise that
he is jumpod with a fine or im
prisonment. Oregon had beter close its
streams and fields entirely, dis
charge its hundreds of fish and
game wardens, abolish its licens
es and call off Sport.
NO "RAILR0ADINQ."
Mr. McLoughlin Says Schuebel's
Letter Is Wrong Aoousatlon.
Editor Courier:
I read with intorest an article
from R. Schuebel, accusing our
County School Superintendent of
"railroading" through the School
Officer's Convention a resolution
would slide and could be called a favoring an increase in the sal-
leiirh was hitched onto and our ary of the office. In justice and
people certainly made the most of fair play, I wish to say that I in-
And it lasted ror rive aays. troduced tne resolution on tne
spur of the moment. I went for
ward to sign the petition without
any thought of offering any mot
ion or resolution. After signing it
I thought it would be a comple
ment to one who has served the
public faithfully and well for a
very small salary. I made the
motion which was seconded by at
least three persons at one time.
I then put the question unanim
ously. I have no recollection of
any delegate 'offering to discuss
it. If there was any "railroading"
I am the guilty party, not Mr.
Gary. I had no intention of doing
anything out of the way and do
not think that the delegates at the
convention will say that there was
anything wrong done.
Mr. Schuebel wants fair play. I
wonder if he told the people at
Eldorado that Supt. Gary's salary
hill would save money for the
county? I wonder if he invited Mr.
Gary to explain his side of the
case to the peoplo of the Eldorado
school?
I do not wish to enter into a
discussion of the matter but feel
that it is wrong to accuse Mr.
Gary wrongfully.
R. S. McLaughlin.
it
'he mercury held around the
freezing point and it melted slow
ly, and the youngsters had tho one
i(f time of their lives.
The heavy fall of snow did great
amage to the wire corporations
and to trees and shrubbery. All
over the city the broken wires
were hanging down, and the trees
were badly damaged by the weight
they are not trained to near.
The snowfall has been general
over the Pacillc coast, and Cali
fornia and Washington had a
much heavier fall and sustained
more damage than Oregon.
School Districts are Busy.
The laxnavers in the rural dis
tricts are unquestionably firmly
and strongly against the present
supervisor law, and if the legis
lature heeds public sentiment it
will stand by Senator , Dimick s
ill and abolish the law.
The school districts do not be-
ieve they Ket value received for
what the supervisors cost them,
and all over the county they are
holding district meetings and
protesting against the law.
The law has never neen popular
Oreg.-n Cily will nave a pure
supply of waler, if it. can bo
found in thh icinity. nml we all
know it can. , .
The city council took . decisive
action at its meeting Wednesday
night, and steps to have a compe
tent engineer investigate our re
ported water sources will ha to
ken at once, and when a supply is
located the city will take active
measures to get it v
The council rooms wero nrn;H
ed. " The people understood tho
water niatter was to be brought
p mm me people are interested.
Mr. Tooze opened the d iscuss-
lon, which became general, with
the statement that parties had
reported to him that we have a
supply within easy reach of the
city that would provide two mil
lion gallons a day, that oould be
brought here at no more cost . to
the consumers than now. shnnM
have engineer investigate this and
other sources, and he moved $225
be appropriated as initial exnAn
dtlure to this end.
Mr. Beard said he favored an-
propriating from $1,000 to $5,
000 for work on definite lines;
that the state or national treolnarl-
cal departments should be able to
tell us at what depth we could get
water here; that he believed it
would be wise to secure 10 acres
around the present reservoir and
make well tests, that there were
artesian wells on the hill the same
as the west side.
Mr. Long though! $500 would
be small enough to make investi
gations with, and Mr Myers took
the same view He said the South
ern Pacifio had men locating
wells all the time, that they paid
hem well and they got the water.
He said the city council was not
the water board, but that the most
of the people seemed to think so;
that council got the the criticism
and the water board the smiles.
. Mr. Horton said if we could get
the 2,000,000 gallons supplied to
us, as Mr. Tooze reported, that
should be investigated first.
B. T. McBain said council could
start with small appropriation
and conlinuo it if necessary; that
we should get busy ut once on this
work; that he believed we could
get water from wells at small ex
pense; that he thought the pres
ent and past water system and
supply should be investigated as
well as the future; that he did not
beliove the present supply could
be made pure; that he might be
wrong, but we should find out for
the benefit of people and council
and that the cily employ a chem
ical engineer independent of the
investigations of the water board.
Mr. Sullivan said we must have
pure water; not necessary to in
vestigate present plant, as water
board was doing this: should go
slow and sure; that present water
was in good condition, but pople
are afraid and should oontinue to
boil it; should appropriate at least
$500; that the supply t Mr. Tooze
spoke of would furnish much
more than 2,000,000 gallons
daily; that cost would be big to go
to forest reserve; that the city
should advertise that it is open
for a water supply for the present
and 25 years in the future.
Mayor Jones said the council
stood ready to take any necessary
action for a pure supply of water.
Mr. Randall said we must have
pure water but there was no evi
dence the present source was not
pure; should give present system
a test; wanted to know why water
was impure one time and pure at
another.
Mr. McBain replied that one
engineer might find contamina-
ion in present water plant condi
tions and another not; that if the
chemical system would make wa
le r98 per cent pure, we did not
want to drink 2 per cent poison;
that there were 100,000 people up
the river and we took their sew
age; we have had fever before and
will have it again if we drink it;
that a person may drink germ8
today and have fever six months
hence, and he advised that we
have two reports on present wa
ter works system.
Mr. Tooze agreed that we
hould have independent investi
gation from that of the water
board.
Mr. Holman thought that a big
well could be dug on second hill
and sufficient supply oould be se
cured. ,
Mr. Tooze increased the oppro-
priation to $500 for investigation,
and it was unanimously carried.
Mf. Beard said he thought the
matter of who pays for or stands
behind the saloon licenses should
be looked into; that when a sa
loon got into trouble they trans
ferred the license, and that he
believed such dodges were against
public policy. A committee was
appointed to investigate.
The committee reported Moun
tain View fire house worthless
and that it should be torn down.
Mr. Myers said conditions were
unfit for cattle and that a new
building should be erected. Mr.,
Holman took the same view. Mr.
Tooze said we had five fire houses
and that the system was antiqua
ted; that we should look into
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