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office and discusses the questions with the
heads of departments. That has been com
mon practice for years.
M r. Wilson said he felt there should be
an official communication from the execu
tive secretary to the civil service commis
sion and the director setting forth our
ideas on this resolution and any other reso
lution.
Amendment to the motion was passed.
It was stated that one intent was to bring
into line the members of the association
and the employees in general and also the
employer who may undercut civil service.
Mr. Chidsey said civil service still is in
the educational stage so far as some of the
departments are concerned.
Mr. Vaughn expressed the idea that there
is a general feeling that civil service inter
prets regulations to please the department
tl'€dCiS
M r. Chidsey read C S 7, regarding Ruje 10,
and remarked that there went the “ back
door,” if the choice o f three were eliminat
ed. Also read CS 8 regarding Rule 15. He
said it was necessary for the board of d i
rectors to interpret these rules as passed
in conformance with the constitution which
states that state service also is a considera
tion in our relationship.
Mr. Wilson remarked that it seemed at the
present time the employer or appointing
authority had all the trumps. W hy not split
the trumps up. This matter grows out of
a specific case, but also is a matter of
policy which may affect any one of the
members tomorrow.
M r. Banks expressed the opinion that the
“ back door” was getting a little drafty.
M r. Query said at the legislative session
the same thing was introduced by another
group. He said he mad an investigation to
see if any complaints were heard from any
one who had been hurt and there were
none. The association might want to change
its stand if the open “ back door” policy
were abused.
Mr. O ’Neil said the A .F . of L . had been
coming out for closing the door and they
wanted the association to come and fight
them to keep it open. The association will
have to take a clean cu,t stand as it is be
ing thrown to the membership. A position
must be taken that is fair to both state
employees and to the State.
M r. White stated that what was wanted
was more prottction for employees.
Mr. Moser called attention to C S *5 and
stated that the college in La Grande plan
ned to lay off second cooks and dishwashers
and hire college girls. These people have
worked six to eight years and have no
other means of support—they are older wo
men.
Mr. Brandt said that with the exception
of the acknowledging the association’s po
sition on the open back door, he believed
the board was all for the civil service
items.
Mr. Brandt amended the motion to the
effect that the balance of the items under
Item F , including C S 3, 4, 7 and 8, be in
cluded with C S 2 and 5. Amendment passed.
Original motion as amended reads that C S
2 & 5, C S 3, C S 4, C S 6, C S 7 and C S 8
be referred to the committee for action
and be brought to tha attention of the
Civil Service Commission. Motion passed.
Mr. Brandt said it had been discussed at
the board meeting before the general coun
cil that there were certain civil service sit
uations existing in Corvallis which affected
an important segment of membership in
Chapter 29. Director R. M . Sm ith and Mr.
Brandt had reviewed the matter and it was
agreed a meeting should be called at which
time a representative of the association
and a representative of the civil service
commisison would appear in Corvallis and
members of the chapter would have an
opportunity to present personal feeling re-
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