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Greenhouse presentation.
Mike said the
proposed number of greenhouses should be 4
greenhouse ranges with a total of 201,600 sq. feet.
MOTION #1 - Dan Rilatos moved to approve
the STEDCO Commission meeting minutes dated
11/9/91, as amended. Seconded by Lillie Butler.
Motion approved 6 - yes, 0 - no, 0 - abstain.
Bud stated the next agenda item is the STEDCO
5 year Budget Plan discussion.
Mike stated we felt it was best to discuss the 5
year Plan before the budget, but it might be more
opportune to take each enterprise and talk about
its Plan and then talk about its 5 year Plan.
Mike stated we will go with Timber first. One
thing he noticed and was asked at the Retreat was
if the outline for each organizational chart for
each enterprise reflected the whole 5 year Plan or
just the one year budget plan. Actually, it is just
the one year Budget Plan, although you see in
Jay’s green products manufacturing and dry
products manufacturing wouldn’t probably may
not necessarily get started until almost the end of
the year and possibly into the second year. Mike
stated the Kohler log operation was not even
budgeted for this year. Mike stated in Jay’s
budget he went for the total amount needed, it
would reflect everything in the 5 Year Plan also.
Mike stated Dan’s organizational chart shows just
this next fiscal year. Mike stated we can change
Jay’s to as it would appear during the year 1992.
Mike asked the Chair if he could interrupt the
meeting for a moment. Mike introduced George
Nagel, who wanted to know whether the
participants of the Alcohol & Drug Program
could use the cedar log that we had set aside for
possible canoe work for a project and if so could
the canoe be made by their program and be a
project for the people on the program. Mike said
he and Jay have discussed the cedar and they are
planning to bring all the cedar off the Reload sale
into the Dundas Site. Bud said he feels this
would be a good project. John feels there is no
reason this couldn’t be worked out when the
cedar is available. Joe feels this would be a good
idea. Mike stated then it looks like if there is no
objections we can work toward this project with
George.
Bud stated we will go back to the Timber
discussion.
Bud related to Jay that what the Commission
decided was to make sure the funding was in
place for the Shopping Center before we went
forward with a lot of expenditures other than the
ones that are necessary.
Jay stated Stan brought to him this morning the
conceptual business plan for the green line and
dry line manufacturing and related to the
Commission he will give them a copy of this
today. Mike stated the proposal is to take what
they produced at Oregon State and then use the
$6,000 left in the ANA grant to finish this plan.
Mike stated we have until the end of February to
use this money.
Mike stated what we are
suggesting was Stan would bring us a draft and
then we were going to take it to technical people
that are qualified in the area and have them go
through and develop figures for us that are
necessary so that we would have a plan ready for
submission for grant applications.
Bud said that one of the questions that came
from Tribal Council was is the list of the
inventory that was given to us are good deals or
not and how many of the accounts are currently
working and how real are those accounts. Mike
related the values on the equipment are accurate
and the accounts are based on actual financial
records the business has. Bud said his own
feeling is that Jay should actually spend 3 or 4
days observing and watching this operation.
Dan Rilatos stated he thought at the Retreat it
was decided everything was put on hold. Ed
stated he thought this, too. Mike stated that is
what we are here for today because you didn’t
make any decisions at the Retreat and everybody
was told you put it on hold and the decision
would be made today. Lillie stated she felt the
timber monies are put on hold for the shopping
center. Bud stated what he is saying is not go out
and spend the money, but go out and see if it
makes sense, be over there to check things out,
which is not costing us any dollars. Dan Rilatos
stated his theory is that when Bud made his
presentation to the Council he had this document
in his hand and said this is on hold until we see
whether we are going to get the Plaza or not.
Dan Rilatos stated this is how he understood it.
Dan Rilatos stated he thought we was going to go
through the budget, and the only thing that we
was going to fund and get on with is the smoker
for the Smokehouse. Mike stated you had a sheet
of capital projects and the thing you didn’t want
to do was make any investment in any capital
projects, so not the whole budget is on hold it’s
the capital acquisitions. Bud stated this is right
and you can approve a budget and have them
come back for capital expenditures. Dan Rilatos
stated he did not say this, he is going back to the
statement Bud said. Bud stated he said we would
hold off on the capital expenditures until we deal
with the Shopping Center. Bud stated what he is
asking Jay to do is go out and reinforce some of
the feeling the Tribal Council had, as well as the
Commission had about some of these projects.
Joe stated this is very prudent because he feels
we can’t put all of eggs in one basket. Dan Van
Otten stated he feels we should have a sequence
of plans to follow. Jay stated he will proceed
with the Plan even though it may not be used
until a few years down the road and then we will
have a completed plan that is ready to use. John
stated his perception on the whole deal is that he
does not necessarily agree with putting anything
on hold because he can see us dying sitting on
one project and there is too many good projects
out there we need to continue and we can’t be
waiting 5 years to get started. John stated the
few we have going right now is not going to
support the tribe and is not going to support
STEDCO. John stated we have to keep moving
ahead if we are going to be a viable business.
Bud asked the Commission if there is any one
item they do not like in this Plan. John & Ed
does not feel the Kohler Tower will be worth it
and feels we should not be in the logging
business. Jay stated before he went into anything
like this he would bring in undisputable evidence
of its feasibility. Jay stated he has went to several
engineering courses and the main limitation of
this piece of equipment is the yarding distance.
Dan Van Otten related to Jay the reason he likes
the first two clusters of enterprises is because they
build on each other and he thinks this is
important Dan Van Otten stated he would like
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to see us focus on this. Mike stated these are
just proposed budgets and the enterprises realized
they would be competing for limited dollars. Dan
Van Otten stated he feels we are just putting
timber revenues on hold and does not mean we
cannot look for other revenues. Jay stated he will
then proceed with mainly going after the green
line & dry line manufacturing.
Dan Lundy related to the Commission that NBC
is at the Smokehouse right now and he is needed
there for an interview. Dan stated he understood
there are some questions he needs to respond to
about the. smoker. Dan stated he budgeted for a
$27,000 smoker. Dan stated if the one he has
now were to break down he would not have a
back up. Dan stated he would use both machines.
Bud asked if he is asking for approval on the
$27,000 today. Dan stated he is asking for some
kind of decision. Bud asked Dan if he feels the
new smoker is necessary. Dan stated yes.
Ed asked Dan why he has to make a 30% on the
baskets. Ed said his mother sent a basket to the
Smokehouse and she told them she would not
take less than $70.00 and they put a price tag on
it for $100.00 and gave her a check for $70.00.
Ed stated he feels they don’t need to make 30%
off our elders. Ed stated if this is what it takes
to keep the Smokehouse going then we can shut
it down. Ed stated he feels 10% is plenty. Ed
stated if you want people to put things in there to
sell then give your tribal elders a break Dan
stated when she brought that basket in nobody
mentioned anything about the mark up to him.
Dan stated she told Ray she wanted $70.00 for it.
Dan stated he never talked to her. Lillie stated
if you sell it on commission the 10% might be
okay, but if you buy it outright and then you put
your own price on it this would be your own
business. John stated he heard about this before
and feels all it was, was a miscommunication.
Bud stated he feels that this is not a Commission
issue and should be dealt with on the managerial
level. Joe stated he feels we should divorce
ourselves completely from the physical operation
of the plant. Joe stated we are charging him with
the responsibility of being the Manager, he’s
assumed that responsibility and it is up to him to
set his prices the way he wants to set them, pay
for what he wants to and if there is some grievous
sin that occurs then we can deal with him. Joe
stated we don’t want to tell him how to run the
store down there. Lillie stated Dan needs help
on the value of the baskets and if this was not
brought up at the Commission level we would not
be able to help him. Dan Van Otten stated we
should acknowledge that this is a sensitive area
and there needs to be some dialogue here at staff
management level about what kind of policy you
want to set in terms of dealing with this kind of
issue.
Dan Van Otten asked when we will have the
Depoe Bay property nailed down in terms of
acquisition. Mike stated no later than July. Mike
stated he would like to talk about this in
executive session.
Bud asked if we have the money for the new
smoker. Mike stated yes. Joe stated he feels we
should buy this on a lease/purchase.
MOTION # 2 - Ed Sondenaa moved to approve
the purchase of a new smoker on a lease/purchase
option. Seconded by Dan Van Otten. Motion
approved 7 - yes, 0 - no, 0 - abstain.