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Four years ago, I met a man on a “married but looking” website. We exchanged fantasies, which in-
cluded wanting to have threesomes and a D/s relationship. He was 19 years my senior. I was 42 at
the time. For three years, we met twice a week for drinks or sex. The sex was amazing. We had sev-
eral threesomes. One year ago, we separated from our spouses. We have lived together now for four
months. It isn’t what I imagined: the merging of kids and dogs, a D/s relationship turning vanilla. And
due to some health issues, he can perform only once a week. And now the real problem: His desire to
bring another woman into our relationship borders on obsession. He searches daily on several web-
sites for that “elusive woman” to become “our friend and lover.” I have access to the accounts, and
his chats are pretty straightforward. Nothing that indicates a desire to cheat. He truly seems to be
searching for a woman for a regular threesome. The problem is that I am questioning whether I want
another woman in our life. I asked him why he is so obsessed with finding someone, and he simply
said that it would be “fun and hot.” Since he is much older than most men on these sites, women tend
to pass him over. I have this fervent wish that he doesn’t find someone. So do I sit back and hope that
he doesn’t find another woman, or should I be up-front with him and tell him that I’m not interested
in threesomes anymore? I’m afraid that if he finds someone, my jealousy—which I work very hard
to hide from him—will break us up. I am almost getting obsessed myself, checking the sites and his
chats constantly. It is bordering on the ridiculous. What should I do?
Just Wants To Be Monogamous
Ask yourself which conversation will be more difficult:
A. After a frustrating and protracted search, your boyfriend finally manages to find a woman who’s inter-
ested in being your “friend and lover,” JWTBM. At that point, you tell him you’re no longer interested in a
third, regular or otherwise, and he needn’t have bothered.
B. You tell your boyfriend today—now—that you’re not interested in bringing a third into the relationship,
regular or otherwise.
It’s the same conversation either way, JWTBM: You’re gonna have to tell him you’re not interested. Don’t
count on him dying before he manages to find someone; he may be too old for the women on the websites
he’s haunting now, but sooner or later, either he’ll find his way to a website where his age isn’t an issue, or
a bi woman into older men will stumble over one of the ads he already has up. So you’re going to have to
tell him the truth, JWTBM, the only question is when.
I would argue that having the conversation now would be preferable to having it after he’s set up a date
for drinks with a potential third. He may be disappointed to learn that you’re not interested in a third any-
more, JWTBM, but he’s less likely to be breakup-level angry/hurt if you didn’t stand there silently while he
wasted time searching for a third.
And who knows? An honest and open conversation about the state of your relationship—including the
fact that you’re dissatisfied with the once-a-week routine and the waning of D/s—may ignite an interest
in a third. Would you feel differently about a third if it turned out she wasn’t for him (so nothing to be
jealous about), JWTBM, but for you? He’s getting older, he has health issues, and he may want someone
else around so that you won’t leave him to get your needs met. It’s also possible that a third would reignite
the D/s dynamics that you miss. D/s is performance, it’s play, and nothing invigorates a pair of performers
quite like a new audience.
I’m not telling you that you have to agree to the third—if it’s monogamy you want, then it’s monogamy you
should ask for—but keep your mind, your options, and those lines of communication all open.
I’m a middle-aged, fat, and happy gay man. My partner has a best friend, and they share every-
thing—including our bed. Most weekends, we tromp through town together, watch TV together, and
share waking and sleeping moments together. Recently I referred to us as “poly and in a triad,” and
I was shocked by my partner’s response. He claims that we aren’t a triad; I say that if we’re sharing
home, heart, and bed, we’re in a poly relationship. Sign me…
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Being poly means being open to or being in more than one romantic relationship—concurrent committed
relationships—and what you’ve described sounds pretty poly to me. Perhaps it’s the triad designation
that makes your partner uncomfortable. That particular label implies that you’re all equal partners—not
just equally attracted to each other and in love with each other (which three people rarely are), but equals
on the emotional, social, and financial fronts as well, i.e., equally obligated to one another. Your partner
may regard his best friend as fun to have around, but not an equal partner, and not someone he is respon-
sible to/for in the same way you two are responsible for each other.
Or maybe your partner regards his best friend as his boyfriend, not yours, and while he’s happy to share
his boyfriend with you sexually, he’s not into the idea that you might be in love with his boyfriend and vice
versa, so the “triad” label irks him.
Or maybe your partner is one of those people who believes that poly folks are deranged sex maniacs and
whatever he’s doing can’t be poly because he’s not a deranged sex maniac, HAPPY, which makes him more
comfortable with cognitive dissonance than the “triad” label.
I’m a married 28-year-old male. My partner and I are conflicted over the level of openness in our rela-
tionship. She describes herself as “post-mononormative.” I consider myself GGG. While I know that
she wants me to be her life companion, she has expressed a need for novel experiences that may not
include me. While I accept that there is no essential link between erotic love and long-term partner-
ship, I reject the polyamorous notion that love is limitless—when she has misinterpreted conversa-
tions and transgressed boundaries, it has always coincided with the neglect of our own relationship.
I have given up seeking the moral high ground and just want to find a solution. Should I have polyam-
orous relationships of my own? Or should I focus on cultivating shared erotic experiences with my
partner? And do her transgressions mean that the boundaries we’ve set are not explicit or generous
enough?
Non-Normative Problems
I don’t think retaliatory polyamory is healthy or sustainable. (“I don’t want to have other partners, but if
you’re going to have other partners, then so am I! Let’s see how you like it!”) And while you can focus on
cultivating shared erotic experiences, NNP, your partner has made it clear that she needs—and intends to
have—novel experiences that don’t include you. And while her transgressions may mean the boundaries
you’ve set aren’t explicit or generous enough, NNP, it’s likelier that your partner gets off on transgression.
Some people do.
I think you’re confused, NNP, and your confusion stems from the fact that your partner is negotiating with
you about her nonnegotiable terms. She’s going to do who and what she wants whether you like it or not,
and she’s going to hide behind “post-mononormative” labels and claims that conversations were misin-
terpreted if that’s what it takes. Accept her terms or divorce her ass, but stop deluding yourself.
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