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it CCXJBBUATIlffG M »E C A B Z 11 Street roots Education * Dialogue * Independence DUET, fro m page 10 was always gonna be Skid Row. There were several thousand people asleep on the street there in the evenings and a lot were there because of the service agencies: mental health programs, rehab and some of the shelters where people could get food or a bed for the night It was just so much a part of the fabric of the city, and so much accepted, that I didn’t give it a lot of thought- But here?was Nathaniel, living here in this place where, at night there were thousands of folks on die street, and you would see drug dealers counting cash, prostitutes working out of port-a-pottys, people walking down the street with open wounds; sirens 24-hours a day. Y’know, I cared about Nathaniel and his welfare, so I found it unconscionable that we could have created this place, and became all the more determined to not just help him, but to shine a light on all of those issues. But I’m as guilty as anybody else who knew it was there and looked at it and walked past it and didn’t think to do anything. It took getting to know somebody who lived there and caring about him. R. R .:/ ’be read that there are an estimated 60,000 homeless people in L. A., which is just an astronomical number. What were your interactions with homeless people before Nathaniel? And despite the challenges of dealing with somebody who is schizophrenic, there was often a great deal of humanity in whatever he was saying. Sometimes he’d get very aggressive and it would be a little bit ugly, but then he would say something that would sort of redeem him. It was always an adventure. R. R.: On “60 Minutes” you said about your relationship with Nathaniel: “It’s the most meaningful friendship that I ’ve had in my life.” S. L.: I think the first time I realized how meaningful it was was when I spent a night on Skid Row and I felt I was really looking into his soul. The things that, he said and did that night: He recited the “Hamlet” soliloquy in a Shakespearean accent; he said a prayer; he talked very poetically about. g the [psychiatric] hospitals shut down. It was hard for me to imagine how we could allow that to happen in this society, say, “Well, it’s OK for them to live in the street” I thought, “Can you do itif they all had pancreatic cancer?” Whyhs it that on Saturday mornings there’s a 10K race for the cure of everything but paranoid schizophrenia? I just knew that I wanted to keep writing about it and put some pressure on City Hall. So here was Prop. 63. So it’s another way in which having met Nathaniel seemed a blessing, a gift It all was just very nicely timed. I’m not a religious person. Maybe it’s just the way things were, but I’m grateful it happened when it did. R.R.: You talked about readers sending you instruments for him. What do you think - if you’ll excuse the pun — struck a chord with well. [Then Lopez announces that to go through airport security, he must shut off his cell phone. He promises to call back in five minutes. But when I phone him 15 minutes later; he says he’s been bumped to an earlier flight Can he call me back? Sure, I. say. About 80 minutes later, the phone rings.] R. R.: So we were talking about Nathaniel handling all the attention. Has he-seen the movie? S. L:: Yeah. He was at a screening and then hé was at the premiere, but he doesn’t look at thé screen. He’s got a fear of two- dimensional images: it’s a symptom of the illness. It looks to him like there’s ghosts up there. R.R.: So he hears U like he hears music. - S.L.: Yeah. He’s gonna buy the soundtrack rather than the DVD. I thin k people realized that this could have been anybody: Schizophrenia hits one In 1OO people. And here's Nathaniel, who conies out of the Cleveland public school system and makes It to lu illia rd , against tremendous odds. 1 think that it was, lor some people, a story of second chances. And 1 think everybody can sympathize w ith that. S. L.: Well, it’s unavoidable. When you creativity; he talked about Mozart and walk out of the L.A. Times building Beethoven creating something that lasted downtown, you almost invariably come across somebody who clearly is living on the for centuries; he looked a t people and spoke of them with such compassion and humility. street Occasionally you give somebody a T hat was when I realized that few people dollar; other times you’re sort of morally that I encountered had such a profound a\< conflicted because you think, “OK, it looks effect on me. like they’ve got an addiction problem, Am i It was around then that I began to realize just feeding the habit?” But you don’t know that he had something that few of us ever what it is„so, you kind pf just avoid-it. And I find: a passion for something that he really think that’s what so many people do: you : believed in. He’d been faithfulto it through steer clear of it, you cross the street, you the worst part of a horrible disease. And I avoid it. And, I think it was fair to say, I didn’t give found great inspiration in that. Each day — it didn’t matter if he was not on a stage [homelessness] a lot of thought. I knew somewhere, it didn’t matter that he got h i t - [L.A.] was a place with a huge homeless population, but part of that I just chalked up with this unlucky break at the age of 20 or 21 — he had no regrets, no self pity. to the great climate. But there are many I was thinking about getting out of the > other factors: It’s an obscene real estate newspaper industry and envying what he market, it’s a two-dimensional economy, it’s had and wishing that I had that kind of a haves and have-nots, rich and poor. And it’s passion. Nathaniel helped me realize that very easy in a place like Los Angeles to not the story that I had — that I was telling be able to pay the rent, to maybe descend about him — was my passion. And I was as. into despair, to maybe take a drink, to safe and sane when I was doing that as he maybe develop an addiction, to maybe have was with the music. It made me realize that a mental condition triggered: And you’re on I tell stories: I make discoveries and share the streets. You just fall out. That’S what them with people. I realized I can probably happens in L.A. have a bigger mark in the mental health But we’ve got a problem. We certainly do. field to hold onto this job and to write about It’s at least 60,000 [homeless people in what I’ve learned, and share it and to help L.A.J; maybe closer to 70, 75 (thousand). humanize people. R. R.: One of the things that is really striking about Nathaniel and your portrait of | him is he's dealing with paranoid schizophrenia. How was it to interact with him? R. R.: Thanks to some sort of synchronicity, California was about to put Proposition 63 into action. Could you describe its importance? S. L.: I mean, [paranoid schizophrenia is] certainly a barrier, but we kind of connected. We’re roughly the same age; we had some of the same cultural references, He was a big sports fan, which I am. And he just can be a very charming, witty, interesting guy. Who happens to have been on a stage with Yo-Yo Ma at one point. S. L.: That was a tax on the 1 percent of the highest income earners in California, and all of the money was to be dedicated to new services in the mental health area. It was long overdue because so many mental health agencies across the state were, struggling and we had never built the community clinics that we promised when people? S.L.: I think people realized that this could have been anybody: Schizophrenia - hits one in 100 people. And here’s Nathaniel, who comes out of the Cleveland public school system and makes it to Juilliard, against tremendous odds. I think that it was, for some people, a story of second chances. And I think everybody can sympathize with that. So they were rooting for him and rooting for me to help him. And they saw also that one person can make a difference. R. R.: So you’ve gone from columns to book to movie. How does that all sit with Nathaniel? S. L.: It’s been a concern of mine from the beginning, whether he could handle all of this. And there have been many times where I’ve thought of turning back because he — [Interrupted by taxi driver, to whom hesays, “No you keep it.”} [To me.] I just took a cab to the airport. The cabby’s been listening to the story. He’s a bit choked up, apparently. I tried to give him a tip and he’s stuffing the'money back into my hand. Sorry. But that first column. It was like, “Can I really help him?” The only way I can help - him is to tell this story intimately, But if I do that, what is the cost to him? And so, I — Hang on. [Becomes distracted.] J ’m sorry. I would talk to his sister, the director at Lamp and say, “Can he handle it?” The thing that kept us all moving forward was ' that Nathaniel seemed to — at least in part — like the attention, although he: had trouble processing it at times. More importantly, we; thought this story is hot just about humanizing him, but lots of people like him. And how can we not advance this cause? So. he is, for the rnost part, handling it really STREAMING ONLINE! KrIslIna._.SmocL____ ...— -- — ~ ConSy|tjng WWW. KBOO. fm AND ON THE AIR: PDX: 9 0 .7 FM I CORVALLIS: 1 0 0 .7 FM | HOOD RIVER: 91 .9 F M d o m a m o o t M i$ G < wuwomMwnes Research & Evaluation ■ Policy Analysis • Facilitating diverse stakeholders www.krlstinasmockconsulting.com W w d u i& M n f R. R.: Did he giveyou any opinion about what he heard? S. L.: The first time we saw it was pretty extraordinary. He said he didn’t want to See i t B uta bunch of people from Lamp Community are in the movie: The director insisted on having real people instead of actors playing people with a mental illness. And they were very excited about going to see it, so he at thé , last minute decided to go. He loved the music. At times he grumbled about certain depictions, and I reminded him that it was a fictional representation of a real story. So it was kind of a test for him. Part of what you need to advance your recovery is to be able to . . develop some insight into your own condition. I think that watching the movie at the screening and then later at the premiere helped him develop some insight into his situation. R.R.: So several years have gone by. Where do you and Nathaniel go from here? .S.L.: I’ll tell you where we go: right back to where we were. We hang out. We’re there for each other. I have taken a couple trips to the San Francisco Bay area because of family health issues, medical emergencies. And when I’m dealing with all that Nathaniel is a great friend. He told me he wanted me to write his sequel. [Laughs.] I said, “Well, we’ll talk ’about it.” Ldon’t know if that’s going to happen anytime soon. So it’s just more-pf the same. A1 of which will be easier now that the movie is behind us. And it’s me hoping that he continues just , to make more progress with his continued recovery.' There’s no cure. This isnot going to just go away one day. But he shows — despite occasional back-pedaling — a steady •- arc. It’s just been amazing to see a guy who four years ago was living on the streets playing a two-string violin who now has a dozen instruments and will get into a car, which he never wanted to do when I first „met him. Or go to a concert So all of these signs of progress are very encouraging,! just hope to be there for him to help him continue to improve. C oming in A ugust ... 7-8 am W eekdays flAM-NOON DURING JULY D EM O C R A C Y