4 Torch of Reason '’pe" Lfc,ter a,,d foll°"!t with tl>e . The O nly P ap er of Its Kind. C h ristia n ’s reply. The subject is . . . . _ most worthy of discussion. T ruth Published W eekly by th e Liberal U n i­ is what we want and we are very versity C om pany, in the In terests of m uch pleased to find an earnest C onstructive, Moral Secularism . ~ w c ... C hristian who is willing to read our ., , . . , J . E. H osm er......................... E ditor ideas and give us a chance to place P. W. fie e r......................... M an ag er them before the C hristian educator» "" .............................. of Iowa. The fittest will survive, E n tered a t th e poetoffice at Silverton, and with this we are content. Oregon, as second-class m ail m atter. SUBSCRIPTION RATES. AN OPEN LETTER. S ilverton , Oregon, One year, in ad v an ce.......................... $1 00 Oct. 10, 1898, After Christ. Six m onths, in a d v an c e .................... 50 T hree m onths, in a d v a n c e ................ 25 D ear C hristian :— In clubs of five or m ore, one year, You said in yours of the 1st inst. in ad vance................................ ......... 75 Money should be sen t by registered th at you do not believe in witches, le tte r or m oney order. will act wiaely to drive all the broad aubject, one would n atu ra lly spooks out of your m ind and be conclude th a t you are some old hii xxr_________ - • , .... v u iCU1u uu- free. W e are your friends and will m an cran k , stran d ed upon the help you all we can, and when you j rough rocks of bachelorhood, or are free, we w ant you to help us some disgruntled “ m arried man ” drive all the witches and *ngels w ithout children, or else, perhaps and , ghosts ............. from the .......... m inds of men it may be huh still worse, worse, a a grass grass w wid- d- and women and innocent children, ower, for certainly you evince very Science is calling. It says, “ Come, little kuowledge or und erstan d in g learn of me.” I t will teach you to of child n ature, hum an nature say, “ Depart from me, ye accursed much less the true stan d ard of of our fathers, into everlasting C hristian ethics, or w hat should darkness to a place prepared by constitute the m oral instruction for Secularism for th e devil and bis children. angels.” Go back to time im m em orial. Good bye. W e hope you will Take any of the ancient, mediaeval take no offense at what we have or m odern nations and peoples. said for it is our honest opinion. M h a t has been th eir history? Y ours for Progress, W h at is it to-day? W h at shall S ecular J ohn , ours be? Yea, w hat m ust it be? the D evil H ater A re we to disregard all (he past? and you ridiculed the idea, hut do you not know th a t the unholy hook Notice! yon call the holy bible is the only A pencil m ark here denotes th a t your one in use in civilized countries W hat shall we build on? A re we subscription will ex p ire w ith th e n ex t th a t teaches th a t there are such C hristian ’ s reply to secular john . to take from (rob) “ innocent ch il­ n u m b er. You are earnestly requested beings, and also com m ands th a t O range C ity , Iowa, to renew so th a t you m ay receiveShe pa­ d re n ,” say nothing of men and per w ithout in te rru p tio n . We have de­ people shall not suffer a witch to Nov. 17, 1898. women, those stories, C hristian and cided th a t it is best for all concerned live? Think of the terrible m ental Mr. Secular Jo h n , The Devil H ater, th a t we do not send papers longer th an others, th a t lift child n atu re to th at th e tim e paid for unless so ordered. and physical suffering th at this one D ear S i r :—Y ours of the 10th ethereal realm which to them is T his will p rev en t any loss and we will unholy statem ent from your dream ult., via Torch of Reason, a t hand heaven itself? know ju st w here we stan d . We req u est you to semi us the nam es hook of witches and ghosts has and contents noted. Since yours is Shall we deprive “ innocent chil­ of S ecularists who m ight become suh- caused. addressed to nobody in general and scrihers am i we will m ail sam ple copies. d re n ” of those beautiful visions of You sav you believe in angels. everybody in p articu lar, I tru st pure im agery, which m akes ch ild ­ Well, perhaps the belief in angels th a t you will not be greatly su r­ T H U R S D A Y , N O V . 17, E. M . 298 hood happy, m iddle and old age j does less harm than the belief in prised to receive a reply to your a t­ replete with fond recollections, and witches, but it does great harm , tack upon the most successful in sti­ th u s m ake stoics, herm its and w hat E a r n e s t C h r is tia n vs. th e D e v il nevertheless. It is a great, black tution doing business to-day, viz.: H a te r. not out of G od’s children? 1 lie. There are no such things as the C hristian C hurch. God forbid! T rue, “Science is In reply to an article entitled angels, and besides the great harm Y our article savors too m uch of calling, ‘Come, learn ot m e,’” but “ An Open L etter”, which ap p ear­ th a t all such superstitious ideas do, that worldly, yet dogm atic, practice let us m istake not. F anaticism is it has the tendency of keeping peo­ of applying to C hristians the same ed in the Torch of Oct. 13, the fol­ not “science,” neither is “ science” ple from investigating the real images and ideas th a t you enter­ lowing letter was received: fanaticism . Science is the unfold­ causes of things. tain and possess concerning Chris ing of tru th . He th a t searches the O range C ity , Iowa, You believe th a t angels have tia n ity ; yea, you literally put true C hristian tru th will not m is­ Nov. 7, 1898. wings. Now think h ard for a few into the C h ristia n ’s m outh the J . E. H osmer , Ed., take “ science” for fanaticism , which m inutes. If they have wings they “ proper answ er,” th a t is to m ake S ilverton, Ore., is the m ainspring in the devil’s m ust be attached to a body and C h ristian ity the base m onstrosity workshop. M y D ear S ir :— H aving received this body m ust be in the shape of a conceived by your own “ secular a copy of the Torch of Reason and We have taken no offense at hum an being, for of course it would b rain .” C h ristian ity , while it deals w ishing to test the m erit of its w hat you have said. We have 1 .1 • .1 1 • 1 think of them attach- specifically with everything, leaves be aueuiu absurd to d epth in the purpose avowed in its , , . sim ply given our “ honest opinion,” „ T u ed to nothing, or to anv other than a wider range. “ Judge not, th a t pages, I have w ritten an answ er to . , , “ u a and tru s t th a t it will not give of­ __ _ 1 .. . , . a , 'a hum an body—such as a doc: or a ye be not judged.’’ T his gives us an open letter signed by S ecular ~ 8» ” r <* fense. cat or a monkey. T his body m ust poor heathen a far better o p p o rtu ­ John, The Devil H ater. Y ours for C hristian Progress, he dressed or undressed, and either nity than the narrow’ path o u tlire d C ertainly the subject is w orthv . . E arnest C hristian . of discussion. I am not one to he- i w ay y0,‘ t" ke 11 18 v,'r-v »bsurd; for us by yourself. lieve these things should no be dis-1 “ “ an g e' ( ° th er Ulan " p u rely h u ‘ Y our analysis of an angel is too the devil hater ’ s second letter . cussed, but to test your sincerity of ° " e WlthoUt U ln«s> p a,,ls> superficial for any use, and as to S ilverton , Oregon, purpose liefore I send you a list of 7 ° ,,niere ° r petticoats is enough to ghosts and witches, it is sim ply Nov. 17, 1898 After C hrist. Sioux Co. teachers, I have furnish ' ‘ r ‘Ve a " a ' tl8t W,ld> and ODe w l,h- your construction of our views and D ear E arnest C hristian : — I out any clothing is enough to shock beliefs. W hat care we w hether ed a reply signed E arnest C hris­ never expected to hear from you, so even a M ethodist preacher. angels are dressed or undressed? im agine my joy when your kind tian. Then think of the wings. Are We never spend time discussing letter of the 7th inst. was received. I would be willing to send you a list of teachers for sam ple copies, they attach ed to the body with a such absurd questions. We are But enough of this. Defend y o u r­ ball-and socket jo in t? Have the taught, and we teach, chat angels provided you dem onstrate fully self! wings the hum erus, the ulna, the are spiritual beings. This is y o u r position by publishing my re­ You think the C hristian church radius and phalanges the sam e as a enough. It rem ains for infidels to ply» ° r giving good and sufficient “ is the most successful in stitu tio n hi id s wing? H ave they veins, and clothe innocency with the rags of reasons for not doing so. doing business to d ay ” ; but, if th a t would they bleed if . punctured? hypocrisy and superstition. ’ I is not my desire to foist myself be true, and we ad m it th a t it has H ave these wings feathers, or are W hat do you propose in place of upon you or your readers. I a p ­ m ade “ lots of money and th in g s”, they like h ats’ wings? I th in k I C hristianity, with its teachings, its preciate sincerity of purpose quite does th a t prove th a t it is a good heai you say, “ I d o n ’t know .” No, high stan d ard of ethics and Chris- as much in unbelievers as I do in thing — th a t it has not done the you do not know, because there is tian living? Reason, cold blooded those who profess them selves to he world great harm ? Robbers often no such anim al in existence, except | reason, from a finite standpoint, C hristians. They are equally as for r r ------» flourish and . ty j i ra n i n i i ts n n have a v e r ruled u ie u io in the mind» of th e ignorant. Yea, basely th ro ttles the better emo- ages. Its success has been a t the responsible in every way for their ignorant. You m ay he informed tions, drives them out of the hu every act as other people. expense of education, of invention, on some subjects, hut if you believe man h eart, leaving the affectionate Awaiting your reply, I am of honest thought and of tru th . The in angels you are as ignorant of nature of m an shorn of th e one Y ours truly, foundation of its success as a busi­ th e tru th as that old Irish Catholic great elem ent of true character; ness rests down d ee p in the slim e of E. D. B rown , lady we met over on the coast, who th a t which makes hum an happiness ignorance, superstition, persecution Co. Supt. For the convenience of the read- ’/ J “ in **'ch; a a,,d !'«e™ below, to say nothing' o V t'l^ and crim e. ... . I t is not j o u r fault, hut now your great hereafter, I have had as good opportunities er we wi re p n u t the Devil H ate r’s i atten tio n has been called to it, you From the m anner you tre a t the, perhaps of form ing tru e “ im ages