T H E TORCH OF REASON, SIL V E R T O N , OREGON , T H U R S D A Y , AUGUST 5, 1 8 E . J . H . L y n n s. existence of the soul— 1 mean an N. J a rm a n , Defence of A gnosticism . hands, these laughable, yet awful im m o rta l soul. Those w ho believe words: “ I have been teaching the JERMAN & LYONS, Mr. W ettstein, in i he T orch of in the existence o f the soul and its bible class in the Congregational R eason of J u n e 10ih, in reply to a . . , P A IN T E R S . ’ .* * im m o rta lity , d e h n e m a n , ap p ro x i- Church since my arriv al just for the previous article of the w riter, con- , . . . . . . . m utely speaking, as consisting of a sake of stan d in g up and talking r eludes thu>: ‘' The agnostic atti- i , , , , .... . , House, sign ami carriage paint* , , . B , body and a soul. 1 he proving «it loud and being adm ired by the sis . . . , . .. Al ing. P aper-hanging and interior tude, then, in relation to im m o rtal the anim al origin and nature of the decorHliol, ' s s|lW.iafiy . charges ters, but last S unday the S uperin ity, is not consistent, because if the body of man, does not disprove the reasonable. Wo«k guaranteed. tendent called for B rother — to doctrine that m an lives after death existence of the soul, as anim als are lead in p rayer and I saw th a t it v\as is irratio n al, as they concede it to asserted to have e«»uls— which they a golden o p p o rtu n ity to m ake m y be, they should reject it. If rational, S IL V E R T O N ... undoubtedly have, if m an has—so self conspicuous, so I prayed loud they have n«i m oral right to pose as th a t the controversy reverts back to and long. I Hock with the C hris Agnostics.” the position occupied by Mr. Welt- tians and am a hypocrite but its Now Agnostics do not concede stein and myself before be had $’s I ’m try in g to get and .1 will let th at the doctrine th at man lives shown the anim al origin of the some one else do the good. I have ..... A rtistic Work after death is irra tio n a l; n eith er do bodies of m ankind. beey poor on honesty long enough, they assert nor believe th at it is Mr. W ettsiein should bear in so now I am looking to business.” rational. But they do assert that m ind th a t those who assert the ex W hen you w ant a .... The above w asactually taken all argum ents which have been G ood S m o o th S h a v e istence of the soul am i its im m or from a letter w ritten by one who made in favor of the do«*trine are tality . also assert, as thev logically j Or a First-C lass is supposed by his C hristian friends irrational. It is not a logical se-j . , . , | m ust, th at the soul did not com«* H a ir - C u t to be a hum ble and devout follower queiice th a t im m o rtality is not a i . • , , 1 1 into existence with th e body, but of C hrist, and the question arises in fact, — CALL ON----- because a ll a rg u m e n ts w h ic h , He apparently our m inds, how m any of the m em have been, an«I probably which alw ays exs-ted. E. E. T A Y L O R . bers and m inisters of the orthodox m ay be, made in its favor are un overlooks the fact th a t logic forces ***** churches are playing thesam e gam ,.9 tenable. ’This I consider t • be self- us to the conclusion th a t the soul, if there is any, m u s t have existed S ilverton , - - - - - - - O r eg o n No doubt m any of th e sisters and evident; yet Mr. W ettstein makes probably the superintendent are bis fundam ental m istake right there. eternally, before and after death. I asserted in my previous article | trying to fool him and each other. His whole article m ight be dis th a t the Oregon Secular C’h p r c h e s • Isn’t it ridiculous? posed of merely by asserting anoth- There . proposition, ... . . . would be failur« s if they declared i ncic are, nu., as we ha ve said before, nam ely: L IV E R Y two classes of C hristians, viz., the th a t it is im possible to prove a neg th a t this life ends all. I did so for hum bugged and the hum buggers. ative, which he endeavored to do by i the reason t hat m aterialism is insuf FEED AN D ficient upon which to base a code of In one of the large cities of the his article. In doing so he a t i ethics and m orality. One reason it far West there lives a doctor who tem pted a logical absurdity. is insufficient is that if this life ends Cor. W ater and L ew is uses th e C hristian churches as an Mr. W ettstein said: “ I f we de S treets. advertising medium. He goes to vour an oyster or a chicken, can we all it is not worth living; ami if it . . ... . - . is not worth living, to be consistent, prayer-m eeting and gives in bis not prove, or is it not a self-evident . • . . , testim ony; he drops money into fact, 1 th , a t after we , have eaten and . m aterialists should com m it suicide, Double KigHHixl Saddle H orses alw ays , ... ! It is very patent th a t there is more on hand a t th e low est prices. A corral the bat; he w rites for the C hristian digested fetich oyster or chicken, • t , • *i • i r i papers and by so doing he makes that then this individual oyster or pain than pleasure in this life, and connected w ith th e barn for loose stock. In fo rm atio n regarding any kind of money, but a t th e sa m e time he 1» exista no more? So if man th a t such being the case, the logic stock p rom ptly attem led to, by person m aterialism is suicid»*. There o r letter. Horses B oarded and Fed on an infidel, leads all the infidel is crem ated, or snbum aled, it is a of , . . . , reasonable term s. , . , „ , . , fore, agimticism agnoticism is the tin* only onlj consis- papers and laughs and jokes, when self-evident fact th a t he, as such , . , . , . , he th in k s it safe, at the “ fool stories individual, exists no more.” 'This tent and rational guide to co n d u ct HARDESTY «& MOODY. of the old god-book.” This busi- would be true if the soul, if there is This I consider to be pure Secular- ness «if p - laying and any soul, disintegrated with th e, ism, which, as stated . by Jo h n , Jacob - - the hypocrite - B arber Shop making money is .me of the grea.est ' (he evils of our time, and our Secular a8se|.t,.d th at d but „„ „ ¡, H ..I,oake,the|..UnderofSecular„m , doe8 d(, or rather .he or.gmator of the term, ,, , j so, Mr. W ettstem ’s com parisons are , , . not w arranted and arc not sufficient. , . . . . . In his com parisons lie has entirely 1 . left out a consideration of ihe im m ortal soul—and y d , th a t is the w hole q u e stio n ! M r. W ettstein further ¡-ays: “ The problem, if so No Need to Trust in the Lord. ] it m ust be called, rtsolves its« If into the old simple schoolboy question, EnnoR T orch of TT eason : ‘W hat is m an ?” If man is an I am interested in the Liberal anim al, a living, physical, organic cause in Oregon and especially in structure, ami not sim ply a hag of the Liberal U niversity. I hope it wind, a breath of air, or less than a may he built and sustained by th e soap bubble, then it is self-evident friends of m ental liberty. I wish and an absolute lact, th a t when to contribute a small am ount. En- such anim al or living organism closed please find $5 for the build- dies, and is again decomposed into ing fund and 50c for six m onths j(g s«*gr«*gate chem ical constituents, subscription to the T orch of R ea - ¡hat then this anim al, or man, as son . W hen the U niversity is about gucli being and form, has vanished, completed 1 will semi $5 more, un- or ceased to exist. If man is an less tim es get so hard th at I c a n ’t anim al, as science plainly classifies raise that am ount. In this event him , then the anim al is the man you will have tod<> as the preach« rs an<j the man is the anim al. Wivh- sav— “ tru st in the L ord,” which, if Ol)t the former the latter cannot you do, I think the building would exist. If, then, the origin of m an is not know n, nor thinkable, sepa- never get to he one foot high I will sav to our Liberal friends rate from the origin of this anim al, of S ilverton, accept my th an k s for ji jg self-evident th a t with<«ut this your u n d ertak in g for the Liberal anim al stru ctu re m an cannot exist, Mr. W ettstein has again m ade cause. Yours respectfully, the m istake of not considering the W isconsin. A. \ anperpool . Churches m ust come to the rescue, g ather the rem nants of honest, m oral, intellectual people, and save our inheritance of th e wisdom and experience of our forefathers or all will be lost, and civilizatoin will cease to he. neither denies nor affirms im m o r-, , . , talitv . Im m ortality can be neither • proven nor disprove!),and I lielieve f .. ! it will he ever thus. It will ever rem ain a m atter of belief and not, of evidence. The m oment there is evi<Ieiice, positive and final, either for or against im m ortality, th a t m om ent will he the knell of hum an existence in this world. I say this not as a prophet, hut as a student of logic. J ames R. A llen . Ohio. Old Rags colored w ith “ P E R F E C T IO N ” Dyes will m ake beautiful Car- jiets and Rugs, an d , u n lik e o th e r dyes, th e colors o b tain ed will not wash o u t o r fade. 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