Torch of reason. (Silverton, Oregon) 1896-1903, August 05, 1897, Image 5

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    T H E TORCH OF REASON, SIL V E R T O N , OREGON , T H U R S D A Y , AUGUST 5, 1 8 E .
J . H . L y n n s.
existence of the soul— 1 mean an N. J a rm a n ,
Defence of A gnosticism .
hands, these laughable, yet awful
im m o rta l soul.
Those w ho believe
words: “ I have been teaching the
JERMAN & LYONS,
Mr. W ettstein, in i he T orch of
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the
existence
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f
the
soul
and
its
bible class in the Congregational
R eason of J u n e 10ih, in reply to a .
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P A IN T E R S .
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im m o rta lity , d e h n e m a n , ap p ro x i-
Church since my arriv al just for the
previous article of the w riter, con-
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. m utely speaking, as consisting of a
sake of stan d in g up and talking r
eludes thu>: ‘' The agnostic atti- i , ,
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House, sign ami carriage paint*
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, body and a soul. 1 he proving «it
loud and being adm ired by the sis­
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.. Al ing.
P aper-hanging and interior
tude, then, in relation to im m o rtal­
the anim al origin and nature of the decorHliol, ' s s|lW.iafiy . charges
ters, but last S unday the S uperin­
ity, is not consistent, because if the
body of man, does not disprove the reasonable. Wo«k guaranteed.
tendent called for B rother — to
doctrine that m an lives after death
existence of the soul, as anim als are
lead in p rayer and I saw th a t it v\as
is irratio n al, as they concede it to
asserted to have e«»uls— which they
a golden o p p o rtu n ity to m ake m y­
be, they should reject it. If rational,
S IL V E R T O N ...
undoubtedly have, if m an has—so
self conspicuous, so I prayed loud
they have n«i m oral right to pose as
th a t the controversy reverts back to
and long. I Hock with the C hris­
Agnostics.”
the position occupied by Mr. Welt-
tians and am a hypocrite but its
Now Agnostics do not concede
stein and myself before be had
$’s I ’m try in g to get and .1 will let
th at the doctrine th at man lives
shown the anim al origin of the
some one else do the good. I have
..... A rtistic Work
after death is irra tio n a l; n eith er do
bodies of m ankind.
beey poor on honesty long enough,
they assert nor believe th at it is
Mr. W ettsiein should bear in
so now I am looking to business.”
rational. But they do assert that
m ind th a t those who assert the ex­ W hen you w ant a ....
The above w asactually taken
all argum ents which have been
G ood S m o o th S h a v e
istence of the soul am i its im m or­
from a letter w ritten by one who
made in favor of the do«*trine are
tality . also assert, as thev logically j Or a First-C lass
is supposed by his C hristian friends
irrational. It is not a logical se-j
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| m ust, th at the soul did not com«*
H a ir - C u t
to be a hum ble and devout follower
queiice th a t im m o rtality is not a i .
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1 into existence with th e body, but
of C hrist, and the question arises in fact,
— CALL ON-----
because a ll a rg u m e n ts w h ic h ,
He apparently
our m inds, how m any of the m em ­ have been, an«I probably which alw ays exs-ted.
E. E. T A Y L O R .
bers and m inisters of the orthodox m ay be, made in its favor are un­ overlooks the fact th a t logic forces
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churches are playing thesam e gam ,.9 tenable. ’This I consider t • be self- us to the conclusion th a t the soul,
if there is any, m u s t have existed S ilverton , - - - - - - - O r eg o n
No doubt m any of th e sisters and
evident; yet Mr. W ettstein makes
probably the superintendent are bis fundam ental m istake right there. eternally, before and after death.
I asserted in my previous article
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trying to fool him and each other.
His whole article m ight be dis­
th a t the Oregon Secular C’h
p
r c
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Isn’t it ridiculous?
posed of merely by asserting anoth-
There
. proposition,
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. . . would be failur« s if they declared
i ncic are,
nu., as we ha ve said before,
nam ely:
L IV E R Y
two classes of C hristians, viz., the th a t it is im possible to prove a neg­ th a t this life ends all. I did so for
hum bugged and the hum buggers. ative, which he endeavored to do by i the reason t hat m aterialism is insuf­
FEED AN D
ficient upon which to base a code of
In one of the large cities of the his article.
In doing so he a t­
i ethics and m orality. One reason it
far West there lives a doctor who tem pted a logical absurdity.
is insufficient is that if this life ends
Cor. W ater and L ew is
uses th e C hristian churches as an
Mr. W ettstein said: “ I f we de­
S treets.
advertising medium. He goes to vour an oyster or a chicken, can we all it is not worth living; ami if it
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. is not worth living, to be consistent,
prayer-m eeting and gives in bis not prove, or is
it not a self-evident
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testim ony; he drops money into fact, 1 th , a t after we , have eaten and . m aterialists should com m it suicide,
Double KigHHixl Saddle H orses alw ays
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! It is very patent th a t there is more on hand a t th e low est prices. A corral
the bat; he w rites for the C hristian
digested fetich oyster or chicken,
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papers and by so doing he makes that then this individual oyster or pain than pleasure in this life, and connected w ith th e barn for loose stock.
In fo rm atio n regarding any kind of
money, but a t th e sa m e time he 1»
exista no more? So if man th a t such being the case, the logic stock p rom ptly attem led to, by person
m aterialism is suicid»*. There­ o r letter. Horses B oarded and Fed on
an infidel, leads all the infidel is crem ated, or snbum aled, it is a of
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reasonable term s.
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, fore, agimticism
agnoticism is the
tin* only
onlj consis-
papers and laughs and jokes, when self-evident
fact th a t he, as such
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he th in k s it safe, at the “ fool stories individual, exists no more.” 'This tent and rational guide to co n d u ct
HARDESTY «& MOODY.
of the old god-book.” This busi- would be true if the soul, if there is This I consider to be pure Secular-
ness «if p - laying
and any soul, disintegrated with th e, ism, which, as stated . by Jo h n , Jacob
- - the hypocrite
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B arber
Shop
making money is .me of the grea.est
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(he
evils of our time, and our Secular a8se|.t,.d th at
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but „„ „ ¡, H ..I,oake,the|..UnderofSecular„m ,
doe8
d(, or rather .he or.gmator of the term,
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j so, Mr.
W ettstem ’s com parisons are
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not w arranted and arc not sufficient.
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In his com parisons lie has entirely
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left out a consideration of ihe im ­
m ortal soul—and y d , th a t is the
w hole q u e stio n !
M r. W ettstein
further ¡-ays: “ The problem, if so
No Need to Trust in the Lord. ] it m ust be called, rtsolves its« If into
the old simple schoolboy question,
EnnoR T orch of TT eason :
‘W hat is m an ?”
If man is an
I am interested in the Liberal anim al, a living, physical, organic
cause in Oregon and especially in structure, ami not sim ply a hag of
the Liberal U niversity. I hope it wind, a breath of air, or less than a
may he built and sustained by th e soap bubble, then it is self-evident
friends of m ental liberty. I wish and an absolute lact, th a t when
to contribute a small am ount. En- such anim al or living organism
closed please find $5 for the build- dies, and is again decomposed into
ing fund and 50c for six m onths j(g s«*gr«*gate chem ical constituents,
subscription to the T orch of R ea - ¡hat then this anim al, or man, as
son . W hen the U niversity is about gucli being and form, has vanished,
completed 1 will semi $5 more, un- or ceased to exist. If man is an
less tim es get so hard th at I c a n ’t anim al, as science plainly classifies
raise that am ount. In this event him , then the anim al is the man
you will have tod<> as the preach« rs an<j the man is the anim al. Wivh-
sav— “ tru st in the L ord,” which, if Ol)t the former the latter cannot
you do, I think the building would exist. If, then, the origin of m an
is not know n, nor thinkable, sepa-
never get to he one foot high
I will sav to our Liberal friends rate from the origin of this anim al,
of S ilverton, accept my th an k s for ji jg self-evident th a t with<«ut this
your u n d ertak in g for the Liberal anim al stru ctu re m an cannot exist,
Mr. W ettstein has again m ade
cause.
Yours respectfully,
the m istake of not considering the
W isconsin.
A. \ anperpool .
Churches m ust come to the rescue,
g ather the rem nants of honest,
m oral, intellectual people, and save
our inheritance of th e wisdom and
experience of our forefathers or all
will be lost, and civilizatoin will
cease to he.
neither denies nor affirms im m o r-,
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talitv . Im m ortality can be neither
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proven nor disprove!),and I lielieve
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it will he ever thus. It will ever
rem ain a m atter of belief and not,
of evidence. The m oment there is
evi<Ieiice, positive and final, either
for or against im m ortality, th a t
m om ent will he the knell of hum an
existence in this world. I say this
not as a prophet, hut as a student
of logic.
J ames R. A llen .
Ohio.
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