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from what we do. One of the ways we re going
to look at collaborating with them is [that] we
have the Kendall Clawson Library here, which
has a lot of resources. O ur library committee
is going to go through and look at what we
have that might be duplicate copies, or that
might he better suited for that age group, or
for an academic setting, and we’ll help build a
library extension out of Q^Center. That’s one
of the ways we’re looking at developing part
nerships, to do this as a pilot project at that
campus and then stretch that further.
“O ne of the consistent things I heard
w as that they would like to see Q
Center provide more leadership in
terms of not just waiting for folks to
com e here and organize, but help
JO: What did you take away from that
[September 7) meeting, and what do you
hope to take away from future discussions
with Mars Hill?
BM-J: My big takeaway was here’s this
very evangelical person [the Rev.Tim Smith]
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som e of those ways that our com
munity and our allies can organize
and use Q Center as that hub.”
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ing put out some of those ideas and
-BARBARA McCULLOUGH-JONES
JO: W hat are your thoughts on the de
bate about extending the invitation to talk
with Mars Hill Church? W hat do you say
to those people who feel betrayed that
there’s a dialogue at all?
BM-J: There’s such a variety of experiences
and opinions when it comes to issues of
L G B T community and the faith community.
There’s a whole spectrum o f where people fall
on that line. Probably the two most vocal,
emerging segments of our community have
been those who ask, “W hat the hell are you
even doing talking to these people? They’re
never gonna change their mind.” The other
part of our community that has come forward
has been LGBT people in the faith commu
nity who’ve said, “This is an olive branch; this
is the dialogue we should be having.” Now,
maybe we’re not going to change their mind
because of the way they interpret the doctrine
they follow. That’s the basis of who they are.
But, if we as people who live in the same
community can find some common ground,
won’t that lead us to more peaceful coexis
tence? In my view, the answer is yes.
I think people who have a lot of hurt and
anger and pain around issues of faith—
which are completely understandable, to
tally justifiable— they ought to have an
outlet to express that as well. And Mars
Hill needs to hear that.
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who had agreed to come and meet with us
here. First of all, I didn’t think they would. I
didn’t think they’d meet, and I didn’t think
they’d come here. I thought when they came,
they’d fold their arms, sit there and still act
like, “I think you’re the most disgusting thing
on the planet.” My big takeaway was none of
that happened. So there is hope; there’s hope
for dialogue and for moving people’s hearts
and minds. That, to me, was the proof that we
did the right thing.
JO: W hat would you say are the essential
goals for Q^Center in 2012?
BM-J: Financial stability. W e’re still on
very rocky times as a country. We just need
to be really smart about the way we do busi
ness, and how we grow or how we stabilize
during that time. Second to that is to con
tinue to find ways to reach out and be more
inclusive o f our community and our allies in
the way that Q_Center does business, and
what our place is in the community. Third is
finding more ways to develop allied rela
tionships, and focus on getting outside o f
ourselves. Maybe a little less preaching to
the choir and more finding more members
of the choir [laughs].
We have an infrastructure. We need to
figure out how to support it and how to
make it stronger. Leadership development is
high on our agenda—to get people in the
room to have these tough conversations like
Mars Hill. It’s time.
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interview with Barbara McCullough-Jones.
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