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“It may not be a deeper one, but it certainly
is an easier one to get across to the country at
this moment,” interjected moderator Charles
Kaiser, author of The Gay Metropolis.
“This is something we really need to ask for,”
said Sullivan. “It is a fundamental part of citi
zenship that is invested in the Declaration of
Independence and equality under the law. If you
actually believe that, you might take it seriously,
instead of this constant apologizing for what is
this most basic civil right.”
Sullivan also accused the Human Rights
Campaign, a national gay political group, of
being “scared” of marriage: “They need to get
over their fears and lack of self-esteem on this
matter and demand it.”
"If George Bush is elected
president, the welcome mat
at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
will be snatched away."
—Jonathan Capehart
Detroit News columnist Deb Price and her
partner, Joyce, celebrated their 10th anniversary
by applying to the state of Maryland for a mar
riage license, and of course were refused.
“Five years later, we will be going to Vermont
to be parties to a civil union,” Price said.
The matter of the Millennium March on
Washington, held three days after the forum,
was also addressed.
“I get a little fed up with my forty-something
friends who say, ‘Why do we need to march
again?’ who have forgotten how exhilarating it
was to us [when we were] in our 20s,” said Kaiser.
All agreed that it is always positive for gay
people to get together in large numbers. There is
something empowering about such gatherings
said Keen. Sullivan called the culture “post
march.”
“The question is whether marching as such is
a relevant tool at this particular moment,” he
added.
Kaiser said the Internet is “a revolutionary
tool,” especially for gay and lesbian people “in
the hinterlands.”
He believes “it is changing gay life at least as
much as it is changing life in the rest of the
country.”
Price did not minimize the impact of the
Internet, but she added that “there is something
very uplifting about being around other gay peo
ple” that she doesn’t get in cyberspace.
Sullivan railed against money: “One is never
asked by HRC to come and talk about the issues.
One is asked, ‘Who do you know in Hollywood
who can give us some money?’ It is all about
shoveling money out of gay pockets into the
Democratic Party or these organizations."
He said that fund raising “requires demons,”
and the religious right wing fulfills that role for
gay organizations. Sullivan called the arrange
ment politically counterproductive, because it
inhibits building bridges to segments of the
diverse religious fundamentalist community
that could be supportive of gay issues.
Price, meanwhile, said the meeting several
months ago between the Rev. Mel White, who
is gay, and the Rev. Jerry Falwell stimulated
many evangelicals “to start thinking about gay
people in a new way.... If we focus on common
ground, it seems to me we can move forward.”
■ B ob R oehr is a free-lance uniter based in Wash
ington, D.C.
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