just out ▼ , September 19 1997 ▼ 29 INTERVIEW aramount Pictures has joined a grow­ ing list of the major Hollywood players who are putting some big bucks behind gay material. The industry has begun to Sparks fly during the chemistry lesson a closeted high school see that films which show gay people as normal as well as amusing—quel concept!—can teacher learns from a TV journalist in In & Out make money beyond the gay and lesbian commu­ ▼ nities as they cross over to mainstream U.S. by Dale Reynolds society (and the rest of the world). Last year The Birdcage made a fortune for comedy Kiss Me, Guido this year). With the Tom is handsome and kind of loopy, a guy with a central elements in place, getting the other stars menschy, human quality. We also strongly needed was easy. Filming began last October within a 60- someone who could get the joke, and Tom really mile radius of New York City, the small towns wanted to play this role. Frankly, I really couldn’t successfully standing in for Indiana. judge if they’d be romantic together, only if In & Out is to comedy what Philadelphia was there’d be some rapport between them; I’d be to drama: an expensive (around $35 million) unable to judge if there’d be romance between a MGM/UA—a surprise because it dealt with a homosexual love story, in which the stereotypes heterosexual couple, either. They looked cute middle-aged gay couple. But because it was funny surrounding gay men are exploited for humor as together, and it worked. I wanted that Cary Grant/ as only Mike Nichols and Elaine May can make well as insight. Not so surprisingly, the creative Doris Day quality they brought.” ’em (based on a pretty funny French script of 18 folk deny that it’s a “gay” story; why allow the It is the critical kiss between the two men years before), it succeeded with both straight and obvious when you can put a more salable spin on which propels the plot into full gear. To Selleck: it? gay audiences. And didn’t Bound, a hair-raising “Howard needs a slap in the face as a wake-upcall, Mafia caper, succeed in part because of the steamy Oz, 53, a genial and quiet gentleman, says, and we spent time on that. Yes, it was awkward lesbian sex between the principals? The 1993 “It’s not a gay comedy—to me it’s a screwball kissing Kevin, but it’s often awkward kissing Demme/Nyswater drama Philadelphia was also comedy with an edge and underbelly to it. I didn’t actresses—you meet someone, shake their hand, successful, brushing aside fears that an AIDS/gay make it as a [film] for either heterosexuals or and crawl into bed with them. That’s the nature of love story would scare audiences away. Most of homosexuals; if I’d made it to say, ‘it’s OK to be this business, [and] you gotta get past that.” the other queer-positive films in recent years have homosexual,’ that would be too narrow; I want to But the kiss is a solid laugh as Howard takes it been low-budget U.S. indepen­ dents and foreign-financed films, presented in a wide variety of levels of quality, but many lack the necessary big bucks to create momentum for high ticket sales. Now Paramount has joined in with the search for gay hits with In & Out, the Paul Rudnick and Frank Oz upbeat and screamingly funny film which deals with a closeted gay man (Kevin Kline) who is outed on worldwide tele­ vision by a former student (Matt Dillon) as he collects an Oscar for Best Actor. When the press rushes to tiny Greenleaf, Ind., to inter­ view this unknown teacher of high school English literature, his fiancée (Joan Cusack), parents (Debbie Reynolds and Wilford Brimley), friends, students and principal (Bob Newhart) sit in shocked wonder at just what has come over their beloved Howard Brackett. This central act of com­ ing to grips with an essential real­ ity in the face of adversity and fear is the gist of the comedy, which has some of the best comic, even farcical, moments to be found in any film this year. The original idea came from filmdom’s strongest out gay pro­ ducer, Scott Rudin {The Addams Kevin Kline (left) and Tom Selleck star in In & Out Family and Ransomon screen, Sondheim/Lapine’s say it’s OK to be whoever you are—don’t hide. and realizes the implications. It’s also where It’s controversial in an acceptable way; I like Kline gets to bust out as a physical actor, a talent Passion on stage), who approached one of the subversion.” for which he was awarded an Oscar (for A Fish best comedy writers around, Paul Rudnick Called Wanda) almost a decade ago. The subversion comes in as Rudnick has writ­ {Addams Family Values, Jeffrey), who is refresh­ ten a contemporary romantic comedy between Selleck had a grand time with the scene: “Act­ ingly out as a perceptibly-gay man. They based it two men in a film style popular 60 years ago—the ing is basically doing, so we rehearsed it on a on Tom Hanks’ careful outing of his high school screwball comedy—and the surprise comes from Friday night—we were concerned with tone at the drama teacher three years ago when Hanks won time, not the mechanics—and Frank likes sponta­ his first Oscar, for his brilliant work in Philadel­ the casting of the fellow who brings Howard fully out as a gay man. The troika of producer, director neity, which I’m quite comfortable with and which phia. and writer spent a lot of time on the pivotal Kevin is brilliant at. We played around with it to Rudnick’s strength as a writer lies in the well- see where [the kiss] fit—or even if it fit. Paul was wrought gag and the off-beat situation, and In & character of Peter Malloy, the TV reporter played by Tom Selleck. For it is Selleck—long known as there and we adjusted some things. Then we Out is blessedly filled with them. Director Oz, returned Monday morning, laying it down in the a political conservative uncomfortable with gay married with four kids, has always exhibited a wide shot. Well, after that you think you’re wind­ rights who has fought off rumors of being gay keen awareness of social comedy and the tensions ing down and you’ll just be matching what you himself—who as Malloy plants a great big wet which crop up when folk come into conflict with did in the mid-shots. But Tuesday we started kiss on frustrated Howard, at 40 still in denial their well-honed lies. (Check out his directorial over— which is very Oz; he’s sly—just when I’d about his essential sexuality. The scene is a bril­ work in Little Shop o f Horrors, the Muppet films— let my guard down, we found new stuff.” liant shocker, guaranteed to raise the temperature he originated Miss Piggy—and The Indian in the The scene is destined to be a classic, but Oz of the movie house at least 5 degrees Fahrenheit. Cupboard.) With superproducer Rudin at the So, how do you go about casting such a pivotal insists that it wasn’t anything special. He lets slip, helm, the project took off quickly, enlisting the couple? Oz remembers: “Kevin was already on however, a reaction which should have tipped him gifted comic actor Kevin Kline straight away as off: ‘There was a cop, a sergeant, who was holding Brackett, which made the sale to Paramount a board when I was hired. We needed somebody really handsome—a hunk—to play Malloy, and traffic for us, and I saw him when Kevin and Tom snap (the studio also distributed the sour gay P (? mema T his S trange S ensation kiss for the first time, and the look on his face was pure ‘what the hell are they doing there?’ ” Publicly Selleck keeps his own counsel on his views of same-sex marriage, political protections for gay people, or any other controversial topic on the subject: Once bitten by the press, twice shy about public pronouncements. He legitimately feels that his private life is nobody’s business: “When you’re married with a kid, it’s turning it up about 10 notches saying [in print] that you’re leading a secret [gay] life. People write lies all the time—but when they write lies which hurt other people, that’s where I draw the line.” Apparently he no longer minds being a sex- symbol for gay men. and as he plays his gay role with humor and love, it will thrust him once again into gay popularity. “I never was closed-minded on the subject [of homosexuality],” he says. “I’d have played gay 10 years before, but no one ever asked. My wife saw the movie and she doesn’t see Kevin as a threat to our marriage!” The kiss plays an important emotional—and comic— part in the film. But earlier none of the creative staff, save Rudnick, thought very much about it—proof positive that Kline, Oz and Selleck are hets, because for the rest of us it’s a major event. Selleck shakes his head: “The issue for me in this movie was not could I kiss Kevin Kline—I’m an actor, and if the script says kiss him, I will— the issue for me was could I kiss him and make it look real enough to make people buy it?” Rudnick’s script itself is hys­ terically funny—a gay man’s take on what happens when you deny an essential reality to try to fit into others’ more traditional vision. In the plot, Howard is marrying Emily (Cusack) in a week’s time. But after he’s outed in front of a billion people, things get stickier. Debbie Reynolds as Howard’s mother brings a necessary steel- beneath-the-Midwestem-stucco- exterior in explaining how she doesn’t care if he’s gay, straight or neutral, but by God, there will be a wedding! So poor Howard gets to the altar with his exposed secret hanging all over him, when fate allows him an out. Before that he attends the tra­ d itionalist bachelor party ready | to rock ’n’ roll like one of “da i^guys”—except it’s with a group | of straight men who have been convinced by him about the righ- o teousness of Barbra Streisand as a cultural icon. (The 55-year-old comes in for a series of comic batterings—the sole use of the word “fuck” in the film is at her expense—and no one has heard her reaction as yet.) Howard also buys a tape of “How to Be a Real Man” and tries to follow it in order to fit in, only to blow it when tricked into dancing to Diana Ross. It’s this kind of loopy satire which elevates the film. It’s tough discussing this fine and funny com­ edy without wanting to give away all of Rudnick’s jokes and Oz’s inventive direction; a couple of the highlights concern secondary characters such as the model who lives with the film star played by Dillon, played by Shalom Harlow, a beautiful. Canadian-born, hugely successful fashion model in her own right. Rudnick gets off zingers about models’ aversion to food when Dillon castigates her for looking “like a swizzle stick.” He demands that she eat something, and Harlow’s reaction to just the word “food” is drawn out into facial and bodily revulsion, which brings the house down. Queens around the world will be mimicking it at Halloween this year. This is a wise and goofus film, cleverly acted and a boon to gay people all over the world.