Sneakers Debate Poverty Solutions
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you can't plan ahead, then you ,
can't see past the next day You
cross each bridge when you come
to it.”
“Then how do you get people to
admit the intolerable’' Theobald
asked. ‘If there aren't jobs, how
do you get people to accept this’’’
• Experiment plays an extreme
ly large rate,” Alinsky said. "You
know, consensus is when you
agree with us: when you don't,
that’s conflict ”
No Potential
Alinsky agreed there was no
potential for meaningful power
within the ghetto of poverty
‘They won’t organize on a basis
of civil rights,” he said, but
they will through the ideas
they’re united in. That kind of
alliance will have the power ne
cessary to effect changes, but it
must be an independent move
ment within its own ideas, man
ned by its own leaders.”
"How can you have a working
arrangement if you don't know
what you're allied for?” Pearl
questioned.
"It's as in any alliance.” said
Alinsky. "You need me and I
need you—it’s as simple as that.”
Theobald asked Alinsky how
the guaranteed income passed
from ‘something we talk about
to something that’s politically dis
cussable?**
“Is it?” Alinsky asked.
Theobald assured him that it
was.
Poor Must Change
Lamp man said that it is unlike
ly that any single remedy to the
poverty program will appear, at
least not in the next year or so.
However, he advanced the theory
that if the United States made
the present economic system bet
ter (through a negative income
tar which would, in effect, be a
subsidy program much like the
guaranteed income) and adapted
the present free-market system to
the special needs of the poor,
then poverty could be lessened.
"Programs for the poor, tike
unemployment insurance, actu
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ally are inaccessible for the poor,"
be charged.
But he said that the poor must
also change themselves. particu
larly in the areas of education,
health, and community action
“Look." Alinskv told Lamp man
We didn't care whether they
opened segregated restaurants if
we didn’t have money to go to
them. What do vou mean by
that’"
Lam pm an then explained that
the leading poverty program was
the tax cut of 1964. “But a lot of
people don't connect that with the
general prosperity Th: has really
helped poor people u.uke their
own decisions."
He said that it has enabled
many people to train for new
jobs.
“You can't tram for jobs you
hope will be there!” Almsky ex
elaimed.
Well, were doing it right
here in the colleges, right now."
Lampman said.
Enough Flexibility
Referring to the tax cut, Tbeo^
bald asked if there were any as
sumptions about the state of the
economy. He then commented
that "if it hadn’t been for Viet
Nam. the tax cut would have
run us into a depression.”
Lampman said he thought
there is enough flexibility in so
ciety to adjust to changing situa
tions, referring to the tax cut.
Lampman wondered, however,
if there is enough flexibility to
institute Theobald’* guaranteed
income "How much would it cost
a year’" he queried.
• About $20 million” was the
reply from Theobald He com
mited that the theory that some
people wouldn't work if they were
guaranteed an income was also a
theory of psychological analysis
"My theory is a pre-condition for
other changes,” he said
“Why wouldn't it be easier to
push for new careers?” Pearl
asked him
"Well,” Theobald said. "I have
no reason to believe that any of
the ideas we're talking about are
feasible at all. 1 think we’re going
into something like Huxley and
Orwell.”
“World of Huxley"
“We'll only get into a world of
Huxley and Orwell if we don’t
fight back.” Alinsky said.
“Management is going to want
to give money to the poor,” Theo
bald said. "Give it to the rich and
you've got to talk him into buy
ing your stuff Give it to the poor
and they’ll buy it anyway.”
Theobald concluded: "The guar
anteed income will guarantee
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the poverty program."
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