interview 'lAJith
J. Orville Lindstrom
(The following interview is
the second in a project under
taken by the Emerald editorial
board near the close of fall
term. The atm of this project is
to present the opinions of prom
inent administrators. Ed.)
An adept carcature of J. O.
Lindstrom, business manager of
the University, would picture a
smiling man seated on a moun
tain of money bags with a fin
ger in each of the various sized
pots that surround him.
LINDSTROM, a graduate of
the University, has served un
der nine University presidents
and during this time has be
come involved in practically
every phase of University life.
His main concerns are with
problems of the business of
fice, the physical plant, dormi
tories, University Press, and
various budgets.
SPEAKING OF MONEY,
Lindstrom remarked that stu
dents receive a considerable
part of the money that passes
through his office. In October
some 2,587 names were on the
University payroll and over a
half a million dollars was paid
in wages. Regular students and
graduate students receive a
fairly large portion of this
money.
Students also receive money
through student loans. The
business office makes 3,500
loans a year to a total of $400,
053.00. Of this $200,012 is in
the form of National Defense
Loans.
LINDSTROM remarked that
students have voiced some con
cern about the rising tuition,
and some have questioned how
this money is spent. Fifty - six
dollars of the $90 paid by resi
dent students for tuition goes
to the general university pro
gram for teaching. Twelve dol
lars is budgeted to the building
fund for such buildings as dor
mitories, the SU, stadiums, and
the health service. Six dollars
and fifty cents goes to the SU
Educational Activities budget
where it is apportioned to such
things as the Emerald and the
general programming of the
SU Board.
Seven dollars goes to the in
firmary for its services. Six
dollars and fifty cents pays for
University athletic expenses
and $2 pays for gym suit serv
ice. The additional $85 paid by
out-of-state students goes into
the general fund of the state
board for University teaching.
WHEN ASKED if the tui
tion would rise again this year
Lindstrom stated: “I saw in
the Emerald an article calling
attention to the fact that the
cost of tuition has risen much
faster than the cost of living.
It seems to me that this is im
portant and students should be
interested in the increase in tui
tion. The purpose of a state in
stitution is to make education
available to the poor as well as
to the rich, and if the tuition
keeps rising, and the board and
room keeps going up, pretty
soon the poor students can’t af
ford to go to school.
“This may sound like a trite
comment, but it is important in
a democracy where people rule
through the ballot. We must
see to it that the people are
educated. If the tuition keeps
going up it means that the
poorer student just can’t afford
to go to school. I think every
effort should be made to hold
down the tuition costs as the
University of California has
done. But if it seems necessary
to raise tuition, then that should
be offset by a very, very liberal
program of state scholarships
so that the talented students,
whether they have money or
not, can go to school.
“IT IS AN economic loss for
students with high IQ’s—real
brain power—not to avail them
selves to the University. It’s
short sighted. The new indus
tries, such as Minnesota Min
ing and Manufacturing Com
pany, grew as a result of re
search, brain power.”
Specific questions were asked:
Q. “DO YOU see the rise of
tuition costs in the near fu
ture?”
A. “I see the pressure for it.
The population of Oregon is in
creasing faster than industry
on a tax basis. There will be an
effort to hold down the income
tax levy at the legislature. You
have students clamoring for an
education and the only way you
can give it to them is by an
increase in tuition and fees
or a reduction of enrollment by
not allowing students to go to
college unless they are in the
upper 50 per cent of their high
school graduation class.
“Yes, I do think there will be
pressure for increased tuition,
but I think there might be
enough people interested to de
feat it."
Q. “AS A MEMBER of vari
ous committees where students
are represented, would you say
students have become more ef
fective in governing them
selves?"
A. “Certainly, the area of
Student Union and Educational
Activities is much more effec
tive now than it was seven or
eight years ago. This came
about because O. Meredith Wil
son believed that the students
should participate in education
al activities and student gov
ernment. In the case of athlet
ics, I feel that student partici
pation is not desirable where
student politics and alumni pol
itics can play a terrific part in
the program of the University.
I have seen situations where
students ran the athletic de
partment—where student-alum
ni-faculty ran it—and where it
was made an independent de
partment, responsible directly
to the president. In my opin
ion, the latter is by far the
most effective. Here the stu
dents can exercise their influ
ence in public opinion. They
pay fees; they have rights.
“I DO NOT FEEL that stu
dents should have anything to
say about academic require
ments. The students should lean
very heavily on the faculty for
decisions about education and
should not trouble the faculty
with decisions about other mat
ters. But another theory about
control is held by the students.
Any new student body is con
vinced that it can run the insti
tution much better than it is
being run. Students forget that
in a way, they have hired them
selves educated, and that having
hired an institution, they are
well advised to abide by the de
cisions of the institution.
“The University is a great
place to work: and the exciting
part of it for me is that stu
dents have a right; and I expect
them to question anything the
University Administrators do.
As far as I am concerned, our
records, our actions, and the
reasons for doing things, are
available any time.”
Little Man On Campus
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Letters to the Editor
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Emerald Editor:
After reading ‘‘It Could Be
Worse,” an editorial in the Jan.
11th issue of your newspaper,
I have been totally pacified.
My ulcers have cleared up. and
I have flushed my bottle of
tranquilizers down the laundry
chute. Yes, things could be
worse- I could be dead.
TO I*OINT out the misfortune
of another is probably the old
est and most backward way of
assuring the miserable man that
he is not miserable. Certainly,
you can go tell Aunt Rhody that
things could be worse. For in
stance. she could have been
among the gas-ovened Jews at
Auschwitz; however, this does
not bring back the old gray
goose. After we have thus con
soled Aunt Rhody we can sit
back, relax, and look satisfied
Traditional Old American Football Game:
Do We Know Just How Sick It Is?
(Editor’s note: Hercules
Marsh is the nom de plume cou
sin of our recent correspondent,
pseudonym Fortissimo Marsh.)
Dear Cousin Fortissimo:
We hear that Denver Univer
sity, like Marquette, has decid
ed to drop intercollegiate foot
ball. What’s the world coming
to?
COLLEGE FOOTBALL, like
’Lil Abner and bongo drums,
is a red blooded American tra
dition, but maybe it’s sick and
we don’t know it. Maybe it
should be returned to the stu
dents, but more of that later.
Anyway, both D.U. and Mar
quette had long, honorable foot
ball traditions. Now they have
nothing. Football, they said,
costs too much to maintain. Why
and since when, we ask?
APPARENTLY a university
must be either “big time” or
nothing, and there is no room
for football as an amateur
sport. Well, Cousin Fort, we
disagree. Why can’t football be
returned to the students and
to the realm of sport ?
Each year more institutions
of higher learning decide to
drop the game rather than oper
ate at a deficit, but football
should have a place on the cam
pus. It is an important part of
American life. Does it have to
be professional?
RECENTLY the “Fat Boy in
the Canoe!!* gave huge aca
demic grants to five schools
(Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, No
tre Dame, D.U., and Stanford).
J. H. is known for lacrosse,
which is assault with a warped
type tennis racquet. Vandy’s
still big on football, N.D. and
the Farm are hurting on the
gridiron and D.U. gave up.
Maybe Notre Dame found it
couldn’t get good monsters
from the coal fields any more,
and decided to go intellectual
instead. Does this mean the end
of minor league football?
THE BIG SCHOOL tub
thumpers will cart out the old
argument that football pays for
intramural programs and mi
nor sports, although they never
cite figures to back it up.
Maybe it does pay when a
team is winner or a champion,
and this may explain the in
crease in the number of tradi
tionless bowl games—for exam
ple the Liberty Bowl. But what
did Oregon gain besides a little
money at the Liberty Bowl ?
Not much. Next year there’ll
be four new bowls.
WELL, COLLEGE pro foot
ball does help a lot of fellows
get to college on athletic schol
arships, and a few of them can
maintain good grades in genu
ine courses—we don’t include as
genuine either typing or bowl
ing which are given here. It
also helps some musicians get
in under band scholarships, and
competition is often just as
great for a good trombone play
er as for a big tackle.
A number of years ago in
the East we watched the annual
game between two academy
leaders, Haverford and Swarth
more (it’s not a girls’ Bchool).
The thousand or so who watched
got just as much enjoyment as
do fans at any of the big schools,
and there wasn't a single ath
letic scholarship within miles.
Neither school makes money
from football, it’s part of their
campus life, and not too much
money is lost.
INSTEAD of joining a new
league, building a big expensive
stadium that will rarely be
used and very rarely filled, and
spending lots of money train
ing athletes for the big leagues,
maybe we should go amateur.
What do you think, Cousin
Fort?
As you say, the money for the
stadium could be used instead
for a decent auditorium, schol
arships could go to academic
students, and other savings
could be used for educational
and cultural puiposes.
WE COULD still have teams
and they could play Stanford,
Johns Hopkins, Notre Dame,
Denver, Swarthmore, Haver
(Contimied on page 3)
I
with the statu* quo, confident
that we've gone about a* far
a* we can go. Kalderdnah ! !
Yea, the reatrlctlona at the
University of Oregon do “seem
a bit stringent,” anti "there
should be consolation in the
fact that they could get tough
er”; nevertheless, they might
become a little less stringent and
a little more realistic If a few
more people began to realize
that the possession of a self-sat
isfied feeling of comparative su
periority is a one-way ticket to
stagnation.
Chuck Weller,
Senior In Kngllnh.
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Emerald Editor:
I think Jack Gjovaag's let
ter to the editor of Jan. 12
missed or ignored the more
important implication of the
editorial. "Sweetheart of Sig
ma Chi,” which appeared in
Tuesday’s Emerald. The article
did not maintain that fraterni
ties were devoid of value and
use; it was aimed more against
what Senator Goidwater said.
I restate that absurd quota
tion; "where fraternities arc
not allowed, communism flour
ishes!” I would agree with the
article that it would indeed be
a sad situation if the Ameri
can way of life—may I use
that phrase would fall to the
communist ideology for lack of
fraternities.
Jerry Simpson,
Soph, in Education.
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Emerald Editor
It was with great sorrow that
we learned of the abolition of
another Oregon tradition, the
annual quartet contest in con
nection with Dad’s Weekend.
However, a far greater regret
becomes apparent when we con
sider the proposed replacement
... a “combo” contest.
CREATIVE endeavor in t h e
field of modern jazz, when left
to the ability of rank amateurs,
a species which abound on this
campus, is most certainly an ill
considered substitute for the
male quartet which is primar
(Contimied on page 3)
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