x 1nree RE Week: 'Atomic Age/ 'Kingdoms' I: Church-state Wall Attacked by Father , A wall of separation between • church and state was attacked by I the Kev. Matthias Burger, in a talk I Tuesday morning in the Student! • Union. Father Burger, representing the Roman Catholic faith during Re ligious Evaluation week, stated that such a wall was fine when - considering the two as separate in * stitiitions. However, lie continued, since both institutions dealth with ? collections of the same individuals, it was impossible to draw this line ^ of distinction. Rather than solv j _ ing the problem, this would only make it worse, according to Father f Burger. • ' The problem of separation of : church and state was called a po litical question by Father Burger. IL is one that will vary widely in different states, different cultures, and different crus, he said. “Since (both come from God, each has sov ereignty in its own sphere, and are distinct and are self-contained in j J matters with which they deal.” , - In the United States, pointed out Father Burger, the question seems to present no great problems. In this country the church is distinct from the government, yet co-oper ation characterizes their relation ship. Catholics, for the most part, said Father Burger, would have it no other way. Catholic Concept of Faith As Foundation * Of Church Underlined by Father Burger - in an impatient, materialistic America, the Catholic concept of faith as the "foundation stone" of the church is of great significance, li according' to the Kev. Matthias . Burger. America has "belittled the theo retical in favor of the practical” wttlv catastrophic effect," he said, noting that today we face the bol • shevik philosophy which itself has "the dynamic force of faith.” . Father Burger, final morning - speaker in Monday's RE schedule , . offered the faith concept as one of j four features in Catholicism which . he believed have “the most signifi i cance in the tradition of the church ( and most applicable to our present 1 ’ day.” Others included the Catholic * - "sacramental view of the visible ! world," their works of charity and their assessment of the value of the Individual man. Noting that to the church the idea of objectivity "begins with an ■l attitude of humble obedience,” _ Father Burger explained that "I do not seek democracy between my self and God." “Objectivity is the truths that Christ has revealed," the assistant student councillor at Mt. Angel Seminary said. In the question per - iod which followed he explained the idea further. Obedience, as virtue, did not in i elude gullibility, he stressed. He also acknowledged there is a time, . Mr. Wright Urges ■j Fraternity of Men Approximately 100 persons Mon w - day heard the Rev. Paul Wright, f_ pastor of the First Presbyterian church in Portland urge a “frater * nity of all men" as a weapon u. against communism. In his address, "The Protestant Church Looks at Communism”, - Mr. Wright stated that “vve should not saciifice ideals for short run . objectives” in the fight against commuhism. The best way to "take the.wind - out of communist sails” is the idea _ of brotherhood he asserted. An ap proach to the problem through re ligion is necessary for, under God, . all men arc brothers, he added. even in his enure:), when a man could conceivably revote against its authority! * * r "Thc pfimajy authority which every one man- must obey i.<* his own conscience," he -Uyd, "Jf a Catholic is cppvmced his Church is wrong, he has the duty to leave it." He said the church believes that everything in the world "has a pur pose and a meaning higher than that which our eyes and mind and natural science can tell us.” All creation, therefore, can “lead us to God and teach us something of him.” That is the sacramental view. And as all creation forms a "unit of which He is the head,” when a Catholic "works for the benefit of his fellow man. he works for the benefit of Christ." And chief among these charity works, he said, is to “bring the truth." "Consequently education is the greatest charity." Grafman Talks On Soviet; Jews “Judaism and Political Order” was the theme of Rabbi L. Elliott Grafman's speech as he spoke to a group of about 100 in the Dad’s lounge Tuesday afternoon. Grafman's speech centered around the relation of Jews to the United States and Soviet Russia political orders. He explained how the “founding fathers” looked to the Old Testament for guidance when framing the beginnings of the democracy. Rabbi Grafman explained later that the Jews have been perse cuted by the Russians. He pointed out the latest persecution was the arrest of the Russian doctors who supposedly shortened the” life of several Kremlin leaders. “Anti-Semitism is not new in Russia,” Rabbi Grafman said. The first evidence of such an attitude was in 1905 under the Czar. The latest wave of persecution is quite open, he said, even though anti semitism, according to the .Rus sian constitution is punishable by death. * * * * ♦ ♦ Caesar-Christ Conflict Represents World Issue, Dr. Florovslcy Soys Meserve States Democracy Role The religious background of de-; mocracy summed up is to possess j a tone of spirit to look out upon the world and to see the problems, evils and frustrations which men face and be willing to tackle these problems still believing that the world is a “good creation”, the Rev. Harry C. Meserve told an audience of approximately 100 per sons in the Dad's lounge Tuesday afternoon. “Democracy is not perfect to day, but I believe we are moving in the right direction,” Mr. Mes erve said, speaking on “Religious foundations of Democracy.” He based this belief on the fact that j there is a deep undertone of feel- : ing in America that democracy is not a finished product but remains the ultimate goal to attain. # Once we realize that the brother hood of man is true, Meserve said, and that discrimination and preju dice results from a failure to ad just to this realism, then mankind can build upon available skills and techniques to learn to live to getlier. Meserve maintained that the original separation of church and state in this country resolved from th^ impossibility of choosing a •st -Ste .rehgi°n from those repre sented at the formative meetings ■ of our government. A state sup-! ported church is the best way. for any religion to ultimately lose its freedom, he said. Maser Covers Refugee Plight The tragedy of refugees is im possible to exaggerate, Clifford E. Maser told a religious evalua tion audience Monday morning. •Maser, who is dean of the | school of business and technol ogy at Oregon State, spoke on j "Refugees and Displaced Persons I as a World Problem." He worked with refugees throughout Austria ! and Germany for 13 months as a I representative of the American Friends service committee. "The escapees are the best treated of all the refugees," Maser said. The displaced persons, on1 the other hand, are now a very1 small segment of the refugees. j and are also the worst treated, i The rate of their coming de pends on the kind of treatment they are getting in the eastern zone, the Dean said, and recent biutal treatment has increased their number to about 11 000 a1 day. “The Germans are to be con gratulated for having accomodat ed these people so well,” Maser said, but he emphasized their trag ic condition. Those who were sent to agricul tural areas of Germany often live in pig sties or hay lofts, he said. Refugees living in cities are hous ed in camps, air raid shelters, or basements. Refugees who live in basements are lucky, he said, even if they have no water or other facilities. Those in air raid shelters have no rooms, only a square number of metres of their own; they have very little furniture and abso lutely no privacy. The true world issue is between Caesar and Christ”, not between the East and West, or capitalism and communism, or totalitarianism and democracy. Theme Tuesday was “The King doms of This World.” That s what the Very Rev. Georges Florovsky, Greek Ortho dox priest, emphasized Tuesday at 9 a.m. in the Student Union Dad’s lounge. “The field of the human soul” ia the only place the present conflict can be won, Dr. Florovsky said, and religion alone can win it. The Russian church has freedom to conduct public worship, but no evangelical freedom, he explained. Only since the war has stringent religious persecution been light ened in Russia. He stressed that Communist dogmsTbelieves that re ligion is the “opiate of the masses” and a “disguise of reaction”. Thus, the Russian church will never be j allowed to become strong, and i3 j in a precarious position. ► ♦ Knowledge of Eastern Church Said Vital to Knowing Christian Ground in oruer to understand the com mon Christian ground, one must understand the Eastern church, the Very Rev. Georges Florovsky told a crowd of about 100 people Monday morning. The day's theme was “Man in the Atomic Age.” Dr. Florovsky, a priest of the Greek Orthodox church, born in Odessa, Russia, spoke on the East ern Tradition in Christianity. "People say that the Orthodox church is archaic,” he said, “but that is a poor criticism. If we reject everything that is archaic then we must throw out the Holy Bible, and the works of Plato and Aristotle. “No life, no historical existence can exist without tradition. Tra dition is the living stream with which nations and cultures are linked together.” “Christianity came from the East,’’ Dr. Florovsky told the audience. “Christ was in Pales tine, the first churches were m the East, Paul crossed the Aegean sea and landed in Greece.” However, he continued, the churches did not remain stagnant. They grew, developed and chang ed because the nations grew, yet the church now is several churches which can be traced back several centuries. In this way, he explained, the church is both archaic and up-to date. "By the Eastern tradition,” Dr. Florovsky said, “I do not mean Oriental, -because-the distinct fea ture is Hellinistic. Latin was first used in the Roman Catholic ser vices in the fourth century. Be fore that time the services were conducted in Greek.” Gossard Soys Danger of Germany Is In Authoritative Pattern, Not the People The danger of Germany to the , world today is not in the people ' but in the authoritative pattern, j Hal Gossard told his audience in i the Dads lounge Tuesday morning. Gossard, who has served for the past four years as director of the educational program in southern Germany for the state department, spoke on “A Spiritual Interpreta tion of Germany.” Germany today is a symbol of the struggle of forces in Europe, Gossard said. The educator traced a history characterized by a framework of authority. Blaming this for the Germans’ lack of individual leadership and imagination, Gossard added, “They have had no democratic experience. Military and industrial leaders never allowed the people to de velop a democratic system.” The modern German is very con scious of authority, which is evi denced even in the home. They have little conception of democ racy, and changing this is the big problem of rehabilitation, Gossard pointed out. “Someone can come along with a popular cause and, seizing authoritative power, the people accept the false leadership.” When the United States set about bringing economic order to Germany after World War II, they found the deluge of refugees and a dearth of leadership among the major problems. The first post-war German may ors and chiefs were hand-picked according to their ability, said Gos said. Then tire allies instituted a “grass-roots" democracy among the common people, by establishing PTA’s and community forums. Real Red Threat Said to Be Fear The real threat of communism is the spreading of fear among a free people, the Rev. H. C. Mes erve, religious evaluation speaker, told his audience Monday after noon in the Dad's lounge. America should offer to the peo ple of the world something to be lieve in, rather than maintain a defensive attitude toward commu nism, he emphasized. Mr. Meserve is minister of the First Unitarian church of San Francisco and has recently written a book, "Faith in the Making." In his speech, ‘‘Liberalism versus Communism," Mr. Meserve indi cated the role of the liberal, today. Keeping alive values in a world that is beginning to leave them behind and become a slow and steady force to strengthen the American heritage is the liberal’s role, he said.