Oregon daily emerald. (Eugene, Or.) 1920-2012, November 04, 1923, Image 1

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    The Sunday Emerald
L. L. J. had an argument with us
the other day. We put it that way
because there was no argument at
all on our side. ..We simply stated
our position and there was an end
of it.
Women were the cause of our ar
gument. We speak frankly. We
tried to convince L.' L. J. by word
of mouth and wlifen that failed we
wrote him a letter which stated our
position concisely. Below we pre
sent to you for your judgment both
our original letter and his reply.
Dear L. L. J.:
We are in a free and democratic
country which guarantees education for
both sexes. We cannot shut the women
out of this University then, hut we can
herd them apart and make them run by
The fact is brutally true, that as far
as the intellectual life and scholastic re
cord of the men is concerned, the cur
rent of University life would run deep
er, far deeper, if the women were not
thrown in pell-mell with them.
For three years I have watched these
fair co-eds in classes, and in few, very
few cases, were they able to answer ques
tions or enter into a discussion of a
general sort in little more than a high
school fashion.
The average man, while far from be
ing perfect, at least gives a thoughtful
answer worthy on some degree of a col
lege man. I would not state that the
mind of woman is shallow and that of
man, deep, but I would say that they are
of different types decidedly and there
fore worthy of separate educations.
Under the present regime the women
are little more than the social playthings
of men. Men students regard the soror
ities as a sort of haven of refuge from
the cares of the pursuit of ever-elusive
knowledge. And they are not far from
right. But these minutes grow and soon
does the “social life” become the dom
inant factor in any university life.
If there is ever a marriage bureau
situated on this campus, instead of an
intellectual well-spring and seat of
learning, whose fault will it be?
C. N. E.
Dear C. N. H.:
I notice that you admit in your
letter that you have been ■watching
the women in classes for three years.
So have the rest of us, old fellow!
After three years of this you should
realize that watching the women in
the class room is not the most bene
ficial practice. If you want dates so
bad, try the telephone.
Yes, we humble men are here for
scholarship and education. I cannot
admit, however, that you are correct
in your assumption that women are
responsible for our failures along
this line.
If a man cannot spend his time
with won^an companions, he will
waste it in the pool hall or squander
it about the fire-place session. It
isn’t the women that cause men to
be incompetent—it’s man’s own in
efficiency. The man that pigs when
he should be pursuing philosophy,
Greek and Outlines of the Ancient
Whiz Bangs is so weak-willed that
he would otherwise be wasting time,
I am afraid, C. N. H., that you
have been going to those naughty
movies again.
If this is a marriage bureau, as
you suggest, then many of us are
wasting our time here, if it is to be
a “well-spring and seat of learn
ing," as you desire, we will have
to leave anyway; hence, C. N. H., I
fear that I shall have to be depart
ing pronto, and as you suggest,
“Whose fault is it?” L. I*. J.
* » *
The daring member of the fair
sex who wrote this notice and posted
it on the public bulletin board has
our sincere regards for her out
spoken manner.
(This co-ed will probably have no
more troubles with violations of the
University fire ordinance.)
P. S. Does she smoke?
He: Two-thirds of the women are
certainly dumbbells.
She: Two-thirds of the men are
certainly ‘syncopated idiots.’
Both: Of course, we belong to the
one-third over and above.
O. N. H.
Studying People is Fad
Of Mrs. Barnes
By Margaret Morrison
An unusual opportunity was given
the reporter yesterday in talking to
Mary Watson Barnes at home, the en
vironment into which she seems to fit
as easily as into the classroom, where
students are accustomed to seeing and
talking over with her their ambitions
and discouragements.
A Saturday in any well-regulated
household is usually a time of read
justment and setting in order for the
following week, and this home proved
no exception to the rule. However,
there was a dignified calmness about
it all which is characteristic of any
situation in which Mrs. Barnes has a
part. She very graciously paused in
her house-wifely tasks and sat down
for a half hour’s chat.
“What is the thing which you enjoy
doing most, outside of your home and
class work?” I asked.
She thought a moment before she
spoke. “I believe that studying peo
ple gives me more pleasure than any
other one thing,” she answered. “One
meets so many interesting types in a
position such as I hold. I think that
it is the greatest pleasure in the world
to give young people an understanding
of literature and of all the joys it
holds for them.”
“Do you believe that the type of
student here at Oregon is improving
t from year to year in scholarship,” was
the next question asked. Mrs. Barnes
has practically “grown up” with the
University, having graduated here in
1911 and acted in the capacity of in
structor ever since except for one year
spent at Columbia. “I planned to spend
the present year there to complete
work for my Ph. D., but matrimony
has changed those plans,” she said
“As for Oregon’s student body,” she
continued in answer to my question,
“I believe it is becoming stronger, but
there is an intellectual^ docility about
the student of today that is hard for
me to understand. Perhaps,” she added,
“we of the older generation expect
too much in the way of original think
ing, but still, I believe that there is
more of it done at Oregon now than
there was, say five years ago. At any
rate, it is not a criticism which I am
making, but merely an expressed hope
that the future will bring forth .more
of independent thought.”
Proof that she is succeeding in her
desire to give her students an under
standing of literature is shown by the
attitude with which they regard her.
“She has made me see that there is
something interesting in literature
after all,” says one of them, “not just
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Football Played
Long Time Ago
Article in Living Age
Describes Sport
A game of football two hundred years
ago! Most modern sporting enthusiasts
probably don't think of the game as
having existed so far back in the olden
days. However, a description of the
event two centuries past is given by
I. A. Williams in the October “Living
Age.” The picture was taken from a
poem published in 1721.
“There were six players on a side,”
said Mr. Williams in the article. “One
of the first incidents was the preliminary
speech of a master of ceremonies, or per
haps the referee who announced the
“ ‘Six Holland caps, with ribbanda
bound to the winner, and six pair of
gloves to the losers. Besides our'squire,
the conq’ours hearts to cheer, we’ll treat
them with a cask of humming beer. ’ ”
“Then the players came on the field.
Men of one side wore blue ribbons and
those of the other side, red. The play
began, not by kicking off, but by the
ball being thrown into the midst of the
players by a master of ceremonies. The
ball was made of leather stuffed with
straw, which conspired at once to make
it firm and light.
“The object was to drive the ball
through and not over the goal. The
game was a handling one, but wrestling
and tripping played, a greater part. At
times one member of the team would en
gage in single combat with one of the
other side while the rest of the players
stood by and watched the fray. There
was some modem scrimmage in the game.
“It was considered quite fair play to
tackle a player who had not the ball
but who was showing signs of trying to
get it. After scoring the goal the sides
changed ends. In the game there was
seemingly only two goals scored, but in
stead of the match being drawn it seemed
to be a win for one side. The first half
may have been regarded as a mere trial
and the match always went to the side
that scored the second goal. Perhaps
some sporting antiquary could solve this
conundrum,” says Mr. Williams in the
conclusion of his article.
Aggies Capture
Soccer Contest
The Aggie soceerites defeated the
Oregon hooters yesterday in a rough
contest, 4 to 1. The game was harder
fought than the score indicates. Ore
gon with not much time to get in
first class shape gave the Corvallis
kickers a fight.
Oregon scored in the first two min
utes of play when Richau booted one
past the Aggie goal. The Orange and
Black came back strong and made two
points before half time and added two
more in the second period.
Lau and Series, on the Oregon for
ward line, played a strong brand of
soccer. The game was witnessed by
about 500 people at the Aggie Home
coming. It is likely that a return
game will be played between the two
institutions here daring the Home
coming festivities.
0. A.C. Wishes
To Keep Pact
Aggie Notice Pleads for
Better Feeling
In order to check retaliation by the
students of O. A. C. for offenses com
mitted on their campus last Wednesday
night of which Oregon was suspected,
everything is being done by Percy Locey,
president of the O. A. C. student body.
The following bulletin was issued to O.
A. C. students Thursday morning:
Last night a number of the campus
walks were painted, and green ink was
spilled on the Lady of the Fountain.
Rumors have it that this is the work
of students from the University of Ore
gon. Feeling is running high on the
campus over this occurrence, and many
feel that we should adopt like measures
in return.
However, let us consider. Communica
tion was established this morning with
Claude Robinson, president of the As
sociated Students of the University of
Oregon, and he has denied any knowledge
of the affair, and has promised immed
iate action on his part in apprehending
the offenders, provided they are mem
bers of the University student body.
An agreement between the students of
the University and O. A. C., -^existing
since 1919, provides as follows:
1. Members of the student body of
the University shall not carry away the
“Iron Woman,” paint letters, numerals,
or words on sidewalks and buildings, or
in any way deface or mar permanent
property on or about the campus of the
Oregon Agricultural college.
2. Members of the student body of
the Oregon Agricultural college shall not
paint the cement “O,” place letters, fig
ures or words on Bidewalks or buildings
or in any way deface or mar permanent
property on or about the campus of the
3. Should any of the acts herein de
scribed be committed, and there is rea
son to believe that students of either of
the two institutions are involved, each,
student body shall do its utmost to make
known the offenders and punish them as
Associated Students of the University
have denounced this action of last even
ing and have expressed a willingness to
cooperate under the terms of the agree
ment. It is only good sportsmanship
on the part of all loyal Beavers to up
hold our part of the agreement, and
help to promote a better spirit between
the two institutions.
The Oregon Knights climbed Skin
ner’s butte and painted the “O” in its
own yellow color after the emblem had
been marred with a coat of black tar
earlier in the day by some pranksters.
Dean Stranb sat up In a wheel
chair Friday, and made a trip around
the upper floor of the hospital, Mrs.
P. L. Campbell, who has just returned
from Portland, reports. She says:
“The dean is more like himself
now, jolly and full of fun, and says
he Is planning on being with his be
loved students Homecoming.”
Class of 1893
! Reunion Will
Bring Grads
Students of 30 Years
Ago Will Gather at
Distance Is no Bar
j By Marian Lowry
, Homecoming and a class reunion
are too much to miss even though it
takes miles of traveling to be at both.
So all the way from Indianapolis,
from California and Oregon cities, mem
bers of the class of *93 are making
plans to come back for a first re
union at Homecoming, and to chant
with the old and new University,
“Unite to fight for Oregon.”
When they meet at their reunlo:
headquarters, the home of Mrs. L H
'Johnson, permanent class secretary
, Vbl.?. gam? al,d the many week-em
festivities will be side-topics when i
comes to talking over the days of ’9c
That time was the period of Uni
versity history when there extendei
around the campus a high board fenc
painted white. "‘Our campus some
what resembled a prune orchard,” sail
Mrs. Johnson, “as the University offi
cials at regular intervals planted smal
evergreen trees, the most of which
have since grown into the beautiful
shade trees now on the campus. With
the exception of the Condon oaks,
there were no trees on the campus at
that time.” Mowing tall grass was
then a regular summer iob for the
campus caretaker.
And, if the class members wander
over to Peady hall, in the northeast
room on the first floor, where once
was the first library at the Univer
sity, the Eutaxian-Laurean societies
library, they will find the physics de
partment lab room. In ’93 the room
was carpeted and boasted of long heavy
drapes at the windows and a small
wood stove as the “perfect” heating
To some of the returning graduates
of the class, there will be a few sur
prises when it comes to looking over
the University buildings. For in their
day, Deady hall, Villard hall, Friend
ly hall (then known as the men's dor
mitory), and the old men’s gymnasium
which was burned in the University
fire in the summer of 1922, were the
only buildings.
“Our most treasured memories of
those days are those of our associations
with our faculty members,” said Mrs.
Johnson. “We were all, students and
faculty alike, very closely associated,
and we remember as some of our best
friends the early University heads who
wjre President J. W. Johnson, Profes
sor Thomas Condon and Professor
George H. Collier. The only faculty
members of that time who are now liv
ing are, Professor E. J. Hawthorne,
then head of the department of psy
chology, and now living in Eugene,
Dr. John Straub, at present dean of
men, and Dr. Luelle Clay Carson, then
dean of women, who now resides in
Los Angeles.”
Twelve members of this class gradu
ated. Of this number, 11 are living,
six of whom have given definite word
that they would be on hand at Home
coming. There were 10 men and two
women in the class. The two women,
who will attend the reunion, Mrs. Mae
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Cougars Capture
Game; Score 13-7
Frosh Win By
Score of 46-0
Straight Line Punches
Tactics Employed
Bill Reinhart’s freshmen fo.und
the going easy with Linfield college
yesterday afternoon and plowed
through the Baptist eleven for seven
touchdowns and a 46 to 0 victory. The
yearlings were in possession of the
ball three-fourths of the time, despite
the fact that almost the entire squad
was used in the fracas.
Using nothing but straight line bucks
with an occasional end run and few
forwa^l passes, the frosh gridders con
tinually bowled over the lighter colle
gians. Not once did they have to re
sort to a punt. Sixteen first downs
to two for the McMinnville team is an
attest of the kind of showing the first
year men put up.
The freshmen kicked off at the start.
Linfield showed evidence of having a
tough team by making first down right
off the reel but on their second at
tempt they were forced to punt. The
babes received the ball on their 30-yard
line and here began their pile-driver
tactics. Jones, Socolofsky and Agee
each hit the opposition for long gains.
Four first downs in a row and Agee
went over for the first touchdown.
From then on it was a repetition
of Sherman’s famous march through
Georgia with the Linfield lads repre
senting Georgia and the yearlings play
ing Sherman's role. The visitors seemed
unqble to withstand the plunging of
the frosh backs and three more touch
downs followed in the second quar
ter. Mimnaugli barked the signals un
til the middle of this quarter, when
Harrison was substituted. Before the
?nd of the half an entirely new back
field and a practically new line went
n for the frosh. The half ended 26
to 0.
The second half opened In the same
manner as the preceding canto. After
the Baptists tried ineffectively to ad
vance, the freshmen took the ball in
midfield and scored a touchdown in six
plays by the line-plunging route. Soon
afterward Brooks caught a nifty pass
from Harrison and ran 20 yards for a
touchdown. At this juncture Coach
Reinhart began sending in numerous
reserves with the result that a goodly
portion of the yearling squad received
their baptism of fire. Some thrill was
furnished in this quarter by Kratt of
Linfield intercepting a pass and going
15 yards before he was downed; but
the rally was short lived.
Only in the fourth quarter when most
of the second string were in the frosh
lineup did, the visitors show any re
sistance. The Baptists fought stub
bornly in this frame and it was not un
til the final few minutes that the
babes were able to score.
For the first yeai eleven; Harrison
and Mimnaugh both showed up well is
the quarterback position, the former
featuring with a 50-yard run after
catching a punt. Jones, Agee, Socolof
sky and Post came through with good
gains when needed. The line men re
peated their excellent performance at
the Columbia game, proving almost in
vincible. For Linfield, Kratt showed
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Male Scores Feminine Folly
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Cleopatra’s Adventure Fatal
By A Mere Man
The women have been thinking
about the men again, according to one
of our feminine contempiraries in the
Sunday Emerald last week. Well, the
question is, do the women do very much
resides think about the men? It is
really unfortunate in this day of
sh.ngled locks, modern ideals of self
expression and masculine character
istics that the supposed more at
tractive sex should have to even
trouble their busy little bobbed heads
about tnese “syncopated idiots” that
they attempt to hold in. such low es
This is an old, old controversy around
here. Ii seems that every year the
women burst forth with miscellaneous
arguments on just what they want to
tell the public they think about the
males. We’d like to see the diaries
of some of these women and find out
what they really confide to themselves
about members of the masculne gender
after they have been out on a date.
It is interesting to note that a
few of the co-eds have been origioal
enough to experiment with men; they
have been using them for a laboratory,
a testing station and a plaything.
Cleopatra, several years ago, did the
same thing, but as we recall our his
tory, it seems that she finished by get
ting too familiar with a snake. Be
awfully careful of the snakes in the
grass, girls.
Just what is the type of literature
that is causing the much heralded
“twentieth century” woman to become
so beastly independent 1 Surely all of
this is not due to the movies, or Cap
tain Billy’s well-known best seller. The
queer thing about it is that our own
very brilliant and self-protecting coeds
arc still feminine enough to utter
really ladylike and genuine screams
when they see mice; they are still very
desirous of being one of those seated
in the street car; they are perfectly
willing for men to‘pay the bills and
we will even take the liberty to guess
that the larger portion of them expect
to get married, and, further than this,
that they will be considerably “put
out” if the man that they have half
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Varsity’s Chances
For First Place
Appear Minute
California and U. of W.
Only Teams Keeping
Clean Slate
Sports Writer on W. S. C. Evergreen
TON, Pullman, Wash., Nov. 3.—(Spe
cial.)—Failing to withstand the terri
fic driving power of the W. 8. C.
eleven, the University of Oregon team
was defeated by a score of 13-7 this
afternoon. Oregon was on the defen
sive nearly all of the first half, but
made good yardage near the end of
the third quarter and again in the lat
ter part of the fourth.
Chapman and Sax were the outstand
ing stars of the Oregon team with
Latham showing great form in punting.
Hales ploughed through the U. of O.
line for consistent gains with both
Hickey and Kramer of W. S. C. carry
ing the ball for long yardages.
Pass Intercepted
In the third quarter, with the ball
on W. S. C. two-yard line, Oregon at
tempted a pass over the goal line, but
it was intercepted by Bray of Wash
ington, who raced 45 yards before being
forced out of bounds. In the last of
the fourth period, Chapman returned
a punt to W. S. C. 14-yard line. After
several plays Chapman carried the ball
over for Oregon’s touchdown. Chap
man converted the tty for point. Wash
ington’s first touchdown came in the
first quarter, when Washington blocked
a punt and Kramer carried the ball
uregon rumbles Ball
The second., touchdown came in the
third, when Oregon fumbled on her
own 17-yard line, and, after a series
of smashes, Glann carried the ball
Tho lineup—
W. S. C. U. of O.
Slater .'..F. Latham
W. Kramer.LHR. Sax
Hales .RHL. French
Zaepfel .Q. Chapman
Hickey .LER. Mautz
Shannon .LTR. Yonder Ahe
Brown .LGR. Bailey
Burks .C. Sinclair
Wetzel .RGL. Shields
Ifjertoos .RTL. Reed
P. Kramer .REL. Williamson
Substitutes—U. of O., Terjesen for
French, Reed for Williamson, Campbell
for Reed. W. S. C. made 13 substi
tutions. Officials—Sam Dolan, referee;
Bill Mulligan, umpire; Dorman, head
Football Dope Upset by
W. S. C. Struggle
By Monte Byers
The dope bucket was tilted yester
day and Oregon received her first set
back of the conference season at the
hands of the fast climbing Washing
ton State Cougars. It looks as if this
13-7 beating practically eliminates the
varsity from the race for first plsce
California and University of Wash
ington are the two teams in the Coast
conference now with an absolutely
clean slate. Idaho stacks rather for-*
midable yet, but the tie with the Web
foot squad shoves the Qem Staters
out of the same category with the
other two. Stanford took the count
from the U. S. C. Trojans and is out
of the running for the time being.
Upset Held Possible
As it stands now, California and
Washington loom to battle for the
championship, unless there is a de
cided upset to the dope. This is a
bad year for the critics and anything
may happen, so there is a chance for
Oregon yet.
Not offering any alibis for the de
feat, we might say that Oregon was
caught at a time when a certain amount
of injuries puts the team off color.
That Oregon played a gritty game,
we all know, but they ran up against
a Tartar in the Pullman team, a team
that is up and coming after a early
season slump. In Exendine, Washing
ton State has a coach of the first mag
nitude and one who will be watched
with interest from now on. The Cou
gars have hit their stride and may
play havoc with the conference stand
ings before the curtain is rung down.
Terjesen’s Work Needed
Terjesen’s absence necessitated the
substitution of a weaker back and this
threw the fast going Wcbfoot back
field combination off. Several of the
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