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EMGRAbD UNIVERSITY OF OREGON VOLUME 11 EUGENE, OREGON. WEDNESDAY, JAN. 12, 1910. No. 25 “EIGHT HUNDRED FOR DEBATE ALL LOYAL STUDENTS BUY DEBATE TICKETS WILL BE WELL WORTH HEARING, TOO, SAYS BUCHEN Crowd Will Insure Victory— Opinions of Thoje Who Are Prominent in Debate Circles. The plan inaugurated by Manager C. A. Steele for financing the Utah-Ore gon debate seems to be succeeding un usually well. There are over live hun dred tickets out and most of the hold ers have agreed to dispose of them. Ev ery fraternity and club has accepted its full quota and, furthermore, most of them have agreed not only to buy tick ets, but what is just as important, to attend the debate. Every member of the literary societies has taken ten tickets, agreeing to return $2.50. The women of the University are also doing their share. Since they have been allowed to debate themselves, they it their duty to support the men’s de bates if they are to expect any support for their own. Many of the women’s fraternities will attend in a body. Manager Steele says that the extreme ly low price he is selling tickets for is the occasion for surprise everywhere. In several cases he has offered com plimentary seats to officials or others only to have them insist on paying for them. Owing to the fact that Collier, the Oregon leader, is a Eugnee boy, the local people are particularly interested. Though there is a play scheduled at the theatre for the same night, many will attend the debate in preference. Here is what some of the Oregon backers have to say COACH BUCHEN “It is just as difficult for a team to debate without the realization that the students are behind "hern as it is for a football team to pla> without organiz ed rooting.” PRESIDENT CAMPBELL “Some time ago, an editorial in the Oregonian stated that Oregon was us ually victorious in athletics, but when it came to other things, we were not so prominent. I fear there is a general feeling like this throughout the state, and the students should show by sup porting debate that the assumption is false.” MANAGER STEELE “The tickets are selling well. We want to sell eight hundred; and five hundred of them should be used. T have many loyal helpers in the club., fraternities and literary societies. I have asked each house to buy a ticket for each member and I believe they will. Those whn do, and the students who have sola tickets will be inscribed on a roll of honor and published in the next issue of the Emerald.” LOST—A calculus note book, finder leave at Beaver house and receive re ward. WILL LEARN TO FLY C. W. CONVERSE PREPARES FOR AERONAUTICS NEXT YEAR The Engineering department of the University is considering the establish ment of a course in Aeronautics, prob ably beginning with next year. Several of the universities in the East are offering courses in aeronautics and aerostatics, and Mr. Converse of the Engineering department, does not in tend that the University cf Oregon shall be lacking in aerial knowledge. Ac cordingly, he has been preparing him self on the subject, so as to be ready when the time comes. Mr. Converse is very enthusiastisc over his subject. “As aeroplanes and other types of flying mahcines near perfection,” he says, “it becomes necessary, in order to keep abreast with science, for universi ties to offer courses dealing with the subject.” The Daily Princetonian claims that compulsory chapel attendance has low ered religious services to the level of class room exercises. Harry Moon, ex-’ll, Oregon’s well known sprinter, died a few days ago in Oklahoma of typhoid fever. Shall Uregon be entirely for athlet ics ? ! TEACHERS START STORES WOULD FIND “CO-OP” OF GREAT VALUE TO THEM Co-operative store plans and ideas continue to be discussed among the students, opinions being almost unani mously favorable; but interest in it has been somewhat crowded into the back ground this week by the near approach of the great debate with the University of Utah. 1 he latest development is that some of the professors have already been con ducting small “co-ops” on their own account, finding that they can under sell the regular stores down'town as well as give better service. They are able to get the books here on tin.j and to order plenty of them, they say, only by doing it themselves. So successful have the first attempts been, that many other professors are considering this plan in case the students do not take action. One of the originators of this idea was Prof. Percy P. Adams, of the Civil Engineering Department, bor several years he has kept students in his de partment supplied with all text-books, drawing material, and engineering sup plies. Prof. Herbert Crombie Howe, of the English Literature Department, is also a pioneer in the work. Several years ) ago he discovered that he could buy OREGON SHOULD WIN MEN WELL PREPARED AND ABLE—UTAH’S TRICK DISCOVERED Ihe secret of Utah’s sudden proposal to send a third man at their own ex pense for the debate with Oregon Fri day night was discovered yesterday when Manager Steele learned that they have just held a debate on the same question with Brigham Young College in which they used three men. Natural ly, they had their debate arranged for three speakers and did not wish to change. Coach Buchen refused to comply with the request because Oregon was pre pared for a two-mah debate. His wis dom has now been further veritied by this disclosure. Incidentally, this prob ably also explains why Utah selected the negative side of the question, where as all the evidence tended to show that the affirmative was the stronger. Coach Buchen confidently expected them to choose the affirmative and was at a loss to explain their action in not doing so. Collier and Spencer, the Oregon rep resentatives, are well prepared and those who have heard them practicing are confident of victory. Their line of argument is rather unusual; but is strong and consistent. Those who come expecting to hear a dry technical dis cussion will be disappointed, for the de bate cannot help but be full of life from the start. Speaking on the subject yesterday afternoon, Coach Buchen said, “the men have worked hard and conscientiously, and no worthier team ever represented the University. They know their sub ject and I believe our prospects of win ning are bright.” Brown Talks on Convention Secretary E. M. Brown, just return ed from his trip to the East, where he attended the W. M. C. A. Convention, held at Rochester, New York, will ad dress the local association at its regu lar meeting Friday night, giving a re port on the proceedings of the Conven tion. The meeting at Rochester »vas one of the biggest that has been held in recent years and Mr. Brown’s report will he worthy of the attention of all students interested in the Y. M. C. A. and its work. The meeting will begin at 6:50 and will be dismissed in plenty of time for all who attend it to be present at the debate in Villard Hall afterward. Oregon has not won in debate for three years. What have you done to prevent it? What will you do to help win this year? The men on the team have spent days and days of hard work. Can you spend an hour, and twenty five cents? hooks through the co-operative store at his alma mater, Cornell, cheaper than local stores would supply them. Lack of time compelled him to resort to this method only on special occasions, how ever. TEN MEN TRIG OUT NEW MEN DO NOT TAKE KINDLY TO THE NEW SYSTEM The first of the series of tryouts to be held for the purpose of choosing the debating teams .which will meet Wash ington and Idaho in March, was held last night in Villard Hall. Contrary to expectations only ten men were on hand to contest for places. Since twelve men tried for the Utah team when only two men were to be chosen, it was expected that many more would try when there were six places to fill, hut the men seemed to take a different view of it. The competition is keen, however, and there is much conjecture as to who will win a place in the final tryouts. Coach Buchen says that the men have been working since the Utah tryouts for they developed a much better un derstanding of the question than form erly. “Indciations are,” says he, “that the University will be represented this year by six strong men,” Those trying out last night were: B. H. Williams, ’10; C. W. Robison, ’ll; Percy Collier, ’ll; Will St. John, ’12; Wendell Barbour, ’12; Leon Ray, ’12; Burns Powell, ’12; L. H. Pickett, 13; Harold Zimmerman, ’13; E. C. Spencer, ’13. The judges were Coach Buchen, Pro fessor Sheldon and Professor Barnett. U. 0. WANTS NO RUGBY ATHLETIC COUNCIL VOTES TO UPHOLD OLD CAME Oregon will uphold the present col lege football, was the unanimous de cision of the University Athletic Coun cil, in a special meeting last Saturday. Trainer “Bill” Hayward, who was sent to Vancouver, B. C., during the holi days, to investigate Rugby, reported the English game to he far rougher and more dangerous than the American style of play, and the above action was the result. In the three kugi.v games witnessed by Hayward, one piayer received a fractured skull from which lie \ as un conscious for twenty-four hours, and only saved from death by an operation, and another suffered a broken hand. The Oregon trainer went into detail in describing the particular features of the ■ which rendered it more dv.r than American football. The decision of the Athletic Council doubtless coincides with the popular sen tin-ent at the University. During the twelve years that football has been play ed here, not one fatality or even'serious injury, has resulted. The present game will continue to be played next season and unless met by more serious dis favor r’iin in the past, will be retained for many years to come. PAY MORE FOR CIRCUS SIDE SHOW NOT WANTED PROFESSOR HOWE SAYS COLLEGE IS PLAY AT LIFE Advocates Placing Premium on Student Who Grinds—Not Op posed to Athletics, However. In his address in Assembly this morn ing on “Student Activities and College Work," Prof. Herbert Crombie Howe advocated that greater credit should be given for studies and less for student activities, thus placing a premium on the practice known as “grinding.” He went on to say, however, that the Uni versity of Oregon was not a serious of fender in this regard,—that his remarks applied more to the larger universities i f the East. After quoting Eastern college presi dents to the effect that scholarly ideals were deteriorating, he pointed out that competition in athletics tend to exclude those who most need them; that man agerships and editorships are intended merely to pass away idle time and that 'heir practical value can be s much better in real life; and that the real college hero is the grinder who deprives himself of cheap, honors, for the benefit of learning. These men pos sess heroic qualities, self-sacrifice, pa tience, courage, foresight, continuous Alluding to the criticisms recent ly made by college presidents and oth ers in the East Professor llowe said, in part “The real hero of a university is not the man who stars before the eyes of the public, whether as athlete, Y. M. C. A. leader, or glee club man, but the man who is content to forgo such im mediate and cheap honors, to remain obscure, unseen and unapplauded dur ing his student days that he may fit himself for the larger service to com monwealth in the days for which the years of college are a preparation. "The student who neglects university work to act as business manager of a glee club, or an athletic organization, or a religious association, qr a student publication, is often misled into so do ing by the specious plea that the busi ness experience will be good for him. He would much better get that, as President Schurman remarks, in a grocery store or in a real estate of fice, where he would be up against the real thing. So, too, a few months on a daily newspaper are, in practical val ue, worth as many years on a college paper. Hoys and girls do not go to college to do there the things they could do better at home. Managerships and editorships are well enough when they occupy only the vacant hours after study is over, but when they begin to intrude upon study hours it is time to ; apply the knife. For all student activ ities are not life, but boy’s and girl’s play ■-- - — — (Continued on last page)