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W. C. NICHOLAS .’10
Ralph Moores .T2
Fay Clark .’12
C. W. Robison .’ll
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Dean Collins .’10
FRITZ DEAN .’ll
C. A. OSTERIIOLM .T2
Wednesday, November 24, 1909
For the first time in three years, Ore
gon comes up to the final game of the
season with a chance for the Northwest
In 1906, captained by "Weary" Chand
ler, and coached by lingo Hczdek, Ore
gon was not defeated. O. A. C. held
the lemon to a no score game hut,
sine they were beaten by teams that
lost to Oregon, they had no claim to
first place. I wo years ago, Oregon de
feated both Washington and Idaho, the
latter defeating every other college in
the Northwest except O. A. C.. The
Agrics then won from Oregon—the only
game they played—giving them the
championship. Last year Washington
defeated every college in the North
west except W. S. C.
A chance like the present one is not
to he considered lightly. The thoughts
of every Oregon student will he cen
tered in the great contest on Denny
Field tomorrow, hoping that victory
may come to Clarke and his men.
As to the probable result, it is not
our province to speculate on that.
Whatever is the outcome, however, we
will accept it, finding fault with no one
and giving full credit where credit is
due—to team and coach and trainer. As
to the men; enough—they are from
Oregon. If none were injured, they
would win. \nd the oeaeh and train
er, we consider the equals of any in the
There has been much talk about the
contest between Dohie and Forbes; he
tween the football methods of the Fast
and of the West. We know of anoth
er contest. Robert I'orhes is one who
can teach men and make them work
for him without driving them, lie of
ten praises hut never criticises harshly,
lie never quarrels, hut quietly goes to
work and gets results in the way of a
splendidly drilled team that would do
anything for him \\ ere the word used
less wantonly it would be enough to
say be is a gentleman.
Of course we know nothing of the
coaching methods of Cilmour, Dohie,
but we do know that most coaches are
not like Robert I'orhes. We would like
to see his methods vindicated.
As to Interest in Football and
\ recent editorial in the Morning
Oregonian of Portland criticised the
modern college and particularly those
of Oregon for taking more interest in
football than in oratory. This criticism,
we believe calls for some consideration.
It is true that athletics does receive
more vociferous support and arouse
more outward enthusiasm than oratory
among college students, as it also docs,
we are justified >n saying, among lnisi
ness men and newspaper editors Hut
this is a different thing from saying
that it attracts more interest.
The interest taken in oratory, as in
all mental work, is something less ex
citing to the outward emotions and
hence less noticeable than that taken in
physical competition. But the interest
is there nevertheless and there are few
college men who would not prefer to
have the elements of literary talent in
them than those of the physical prodigy,
liven such a low standard of physical
competition as prize fighting will attract
interest, but no one suspects humanity
of really preferring it to superior men
Moreover, had the Oregonian taken
the trouble to look further than in its
own incorrect news columns for the
facts of the matter, it would have
known that its conclusions were un
warranted. In the first place, the Uni
versity of Oregon has no intention of
dropping oratory. The committee in
charge was unanimously in favor of re
taining it, and in order to do so, they
are going as far away as Montana to
secure competitors. There tire more
men this year trying out in oratory and
debate than tried for the football team.
The University of Idaho has dropped
oratory, but inasmuch as their football
team has met with an unbroken list of
defeats, it can hardly be charged that
such activities are unduly indulged in.
The truth of the matter is that Idaho
preferred not athletics, but debate to
oratory, and this is only a matter of
personal preference between two kinds
of mental competition. Idaho is not
noted for any great prestige in athletics,
but she is never at the bottom of the
list in forensics. How then can it be
charged even there that football is ab
sorbing the interest that should go t<
Washington Keeps Dobie.
Seattle, Nov. 20.—Gilmour Dobie,
Washington's man of gloom, who has
given the State University one cham
pion team and what looks like another,
was unanimously elected football coach
for next year at a greatly increased
salary by the faculty committee on
athletics last Wednesday.
Whether the lanky lighter can be in
duced to spend another year bossing
Washington's athletics is not known, for
he has expressed his intention of quit
ting the coaching business for good and
all. It is known that his alma mater,
Minnesota, would like to have him for
her head football instructor next year,
but Dobie says that if he quits Wash
ington it will be to leave athletics.
The students are overjoyed at Dobie's
re-election, for it was feared that mem
bers of the faculty, some of whom tire
radically opposed to his coaching tac
tics, might object to having him an
other year. The pessimistic coach is
one of the most popular men on the
faculty. Phis is strange, too, for he is
silent, liery, and abusive in his coaching
Denver University, which won the
football championship of the Southwest,
has written to Manager Zednick ask
ing for a post season game with Wash
ington, provided the varsity wit's the
Northwest championship. This game
would be for the championship of the
entire West. At last night’s board of
control meeting it was decided that no
game could be played, as the players
tlatly refuse to keep in training for the
post season game.
A contract has just been entered into
by Washington and Oregon to engage
in co-ed debates this year and next.
Phis year’s contest will be held here
and next year's in Eugene.
Writes for Classical Weekly.
In a recent issue of The Classical
Weekly of New York is an interesting
article on the "Helvetian 0l,:irt°t" by
Professor Dunn, head of the Latin de
partment of the University of Oregon.
Lite Classical Weekly is published at
New York by the Classical Association
of the Atlantic States, and is devoted to
articles concerning the literature, life,
and art of ancient Greece and Rome.
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