University of Oregu? Library Eugene, Oroe-n COiiP o o Tear fias Esie? Attempt from San Quentin Prison s Death Row Inmates Free Break OAKLANDER Rosa Vara is the sixth in a field of eight Douglas County Timber Days candidates for queen. The Oakland High senior is the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Manuel Vara. She is sponsored by Brown Chevrolet Co. of Sutherlin. Timber Days is scheduled Aug. 3-5. (Warren Studio, Sutherlin) County Emloyes Ask Additional Sick Pay, Holidays, Vacations The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Em ployes (AFL-CIO) has urged the Douglas County Court to effect per sonnel rule revisions with respect to employe sick leave, vacations and holiday schedule. Frank B. Hippie, Eugene, inter national representative, asked the changes on behalf of Douglas Coun ty Road Department Employes un- Critics Renew Attack On Tax Revision Bill WASHINGTON (UPI) Busi ness spokesmen Monday renewed their criticism before Congress of sections of the Kennedy admini stration's tax revision bill. They testified before the Senate Finance Committee on a proposal to change the system of collecting taxes on American subsidiaries operating overseas. This provision would require American - owned companies abroad to pay U.S. corporate taxes on income from royalties, patents and other "passive" in come in the year earned. It also would tax immediately income from sales subsidiaries as disting uished from manufacturing sub sidiaries in foreign countries. A. E. Kornhauser, of the Con trols Co. of America, an electronics firm, testified that this would "reduce the scope of operations of foreign base com panies and would further restrict the legitimate business of Ameri can companies abroad." Administration leaders have said the tax is not new. The pro vision is aimed at capturing taxes on earnings of subsidiaries the same year rather than wait until the money is channeled to t h e parent corporation. Other developments: . RUSK Secretary of state Dean Ilusk appeared before the house foreign affairs committee to de liver a closed briefing in his re cent 10-day trip to western Eu rope. There was no immediate disclosure of what was told the con gressmen about his talks with leaders in France, Britain, West Germany and Portugal. ALCATRAZ Director James V. Bennett of the U.S. Prison Bureau said in congressional testi mony published Monday that Con gress would be asked next year for money to replace the badly deteriorated Alcatraz penitentiary. He told a House Appropriations subcommittee the administration would ask next year for funds to build an installation to "serve the same purpose as Alcatraz" at an unspecified location. QUEEN VISITS SON LOSSIEMOUTH, England (UPI) Queen Elizabeth and the Duke of Edinbui visited their oldest son. Prince Charles, at his new school for the firs time Sunday. Prince Charles, 13, had not seen is parents since he entered Gor- dnnstoun at the beginning of May, TfeaWeatfeec airpoRt records Fair end warmer today through! chamber of the proposed action Tuesday. ! which was unveiled last week to Higheit temp, last 54 hours 74 the City Council. Lowest temp, last 24 hours . .. 42! The purpose of the proposed ac Highest temp, any July el) . .104 tion is to make downtown parking Lowest temp, any July (33) .... 40 n.ore convenient to all-day park- Precip. last 24 hours 0 ers and to relieve congestion by Precip. from July 1 I such parkers in the residential ar- Precip. from Sept. 1 J2.4tjeas. Excess from Sept. 1 2.4f7 The chamber Board of Directors Suntet tonight, 7:57 p.m. i expected to take action on the Sunrise tomorrow, 4$S a.m. 1 matter at its next meeting July 17. 1 ion 263. This local represents 141 employes. The revisions are recommended in connection with personnel rules prepared for Douglas County by the Local Government Services Di vision of the Oregon State Civil Service Commission. They go into effect July 1. Under the holiday section, the union is asking the court to make the holiday schedule uniform for all employes. The union suggests that the proposed schedule, which designates 10 holidays, is discrim inatory m that it would provide 10 holidays for salaried personnel ana oniy seven lor the Dourly work ers. Hippie noted that the new per sonnel rules make this provision: Fulltime employes after 1.0 years of continuous service shall receive 15 work days of vacation for each full year (IVi days for each full month) for each full year of serv ice. The union asks that this provi sion be placed in operation. The rule is in line with the practice ot most western counties and cit ies in the state, Hippie said. The court is also being asked to hike accumulated sick leave from the present 45 day limit to 120 days. Hippie said the Douglas County salary implementation schedule which becomes effective July "is a step in the right direction." "It is our feeling that it is not perfect, but should be given a chance to operate. The Road Department Errmloves local has been operating for about iVi years. Hippie said the suggested revi- sions were received favorably by uie court. 'Doorbell Bandit' Threatens Woman Rosoburg's doorbell bandit was at again over the weekend. Saturday, about 9:30 p.m., some one appeared at the. door of Mrs Janet L. Corkrum at ai w niir. erside Dr., rapped at the door and demanded admittance, city police report. She refused to admit the man, ana ne saia "You better or this gun will fire right through the door." , Mrs. Corkrum notified police, who searched the area but found no one fitting the description she was able to obtain. She said he appeared young, about 5 feet, inches tall, wearing a white shirt, blue bandana aero h face, a railroad employe-type cap, was of slender build, and carried a long oarrel gun. The description fits that of I Dersnn annparincr nn turn nthap nn casions at Roseburg homes, brand- isning a gun and demanding mon ey. Pirkkg Ccsmafftt The fioseburg Chamber of Com merce Parking and Streets Com mittee h approved the city's pro- 5'posal to take out 133 city parking meters. o The action was reported today byej hamber Manager Harold Rea ume. The committee will recom mend the pnHnrspmant hv tha Established 1873 16 Soblen In After Desperate Suicide Try LONDON (UPI) Runaway Soviet spy Dr. Robert A. Soblen today was reported in "serious but slightly improved" condition Algeria Faces Rift On Eve Of New Birth ALGIERS (UPI) A bitter rift was reported brewing today in the Algerian nationalist government (GPRA) in Tunis virtually on the eve of the birth of an independent Algeria. The vote in Sunday s refer endum ran more than 99 to 1 in favor of independence and Presi dent Charles de Gaulle was ex pected to pronounce the end of 132 years of French rule over the northwest African territory later this week. The Tunis - based regime was said to have split sharply between right and left. Vice Premier Mo hammed Ben Bella, leader of the left-wing, fled to Libya last week and Col. A. Boumedienne, one of his chief supporters, was dismiss ed from his post as chief of staff of the Algerian National Libera tion Front (FLN) army. Troops Moving In Boumediene and two of his aides were charged with "crimi nal activities," and one of them a Maj. Slimane was reported un der arrest. Boumedienne's where abouts were unknown, but there were unofficial reports he had slip ped into Algeria to court the sup port of guerrilla bands totalling perhaps 10,000 men. Reports circulating in Paris said th Aleerian nationalist' leaders were moving troops into some Al-J gerian cities and villages wunoui waiting lor me rorraai uiuepeuu ence proclamation. In many places the green-and-white flag of the FLN already flew. The Ben Bella faction was re ported" pressing for speedy nation alization of Algeria's factories, farmlands and means of distribu tion. The right wing of the gov ernment, led by Premier Ben Yous sef Ben Khedda, favors greater moderation. A sizeable proportion of the Al gerian guerrillas based outside the country was believed to support Ben Bella. The Tunis regime was reported massing its forces along Algeria's Tunisian border in the hope of keeping troops loyal to Ben Bella out of the country. Scenes of Rejoicing The native quarters of Algeria's major cities were the scene of re joicing Sunday night, with men shouting nationalist slogans while women screamed victory cries and beat on cans in celebration of in dependence. At latest reports, the results of Sunday's vote stood at 2,605,203 99.8 per cent in favor of inde pendence to 6,732 against. Eighty per cent of the eligible voters, including 50 per cent of the Europeans remaining in Al giers and Oran, cast ballots in the referendum. There were no reports of major violence during the balloting. State Strike Hits Local Shingle Mill The Roseburg Shingle Co. on the North Umpqua Highway east of Roseburg joined 62 other mills in Oregon and Washington in a North west strike today. A spokesman at the mill said the action involved about 18 employes at the mill. He said the shingle mill has closed down, but the saw mill and stake mill are still in op eration. The strike was called by the Oregon-Washington District Coun cil Shingle Weaver Union after negotiations for a 22V4-cent-an-hour, across-the-board inrrease broke down Friday at Olympia, Wash. Approximately 1,700 workers are involved in the two states. The strike ocliy began at miHniirlit Saturriav. tha date the unions contract with the mill op- ariinrt TnirMi nnt lonav wan ac- Uually the first non-work day. Clarence Romane ot ajiymona, Wash., ( spokesman far the union, said four mills, three in Oregon and one in Washington had signed contracts providing for the wage boo and therefore were not af fected by the strike. INAUSPICIOUS DEBUT BAYONNE, N.J., (UPI) Fran cis J. Fitzpatrick may have start ed his new term as mayor on the wrong foot. q At his inaugural Sunday Fits- Htrick said rising expenses prob ably would mean an increase in taxes, jbbs Paget ROSEBURG, Serious following his desperate suicide at tempt aboard the jetliner flying him back from Israel to the Unit ed States to serve a life sentence. Soblen was taken off the El Al Israel Boeing 707 Sunday and rush ed to a nearby hospital after he slashed his wrist and plunged a steak knife into his abdomen un der the unsuspecting eyes of a U.S. marshal and an Israeli police doc tor. The exact ex'.ent of Soblen's in juries were not disclosed. Knife Punctures Spleen U. . S. Embassy spokesman James Pettus said the knife punc tured Soblen's spleen and doctors at Hillingdom Hospital were giv ing him transfusions of full blood, not plasma. Soblen, who is suf fering from lymphatic leukemia cancer of the blood was report ed to have lost about two pints of blood by the time he reached the hospital. Both Pettus and El Al spokes man Richard Cope said any deci sion on taking Soblen to New lorx must await the doctors' orders. Pettus estimated it may be 10 days before Soblen could be mov- Local Firemen Win Hose Title The Roseburg and the Roseburg Rural fire departments are prov ing to be hard nuts to crack where competition in fire hose events are concerned. Saturday, during the Oregon Firemen's state convention in Coos Bay, the Roseburg Fire Depart ment won the hose evolution com petition for the second year in a row.' The Roseburg Rural Fire De partment, not to be outdone won the water ball contest for thooc ond year in a row. Nineteen teams from the state entered the competition. The Roseburg team, coached by George Thompson, battalion chief and dnllmaster, consisted of Capt. Jack Walters, Rex Jeffries, Glenn Burgess and Oral Wescott. Members of the rural depart ment's team were Capt. Eugene Merk, Norm Neal, Ernest Jones, Ron Herrington, Bob Triplctt, Har ry Harryman, Bob Berger and Bill Sullivan. In the hose evolution competi tion, Roseburg Chief LeRoy Sei- bold said the times for the event are improving each year. He said he felt such drilling was beneficial for increasing the efficiency of the departments. Each of the winning teams re ceives a plaque and a traveling trophy. If the trophy is won three years in a row, the winning team retires it. Roseburg Resident Dies In Auto Crash Mrs. Lulu Fay Suiter, 60, of 1236 Walnut St., Roseburg, died Sunday morning because of injur ies suffered in an auto accident in Chico, Calif., Sunday. Police said she was a passenger in a car driven by a daughter. Merle Laverne Suiter, 24, of the same address. Officers said the Suiter car was struck broadside by a car driven by Vlctorio De Bon, 58, of Chico. A third person in the Suiter ve hicle, Mrs. Roy (Patty) Cox, Rose burg, suffered severe injuries in the crash. She remains in a Chico Hospital where her condition is said improving. Miss Suiter has re turned to Roseburg. DeBon and his wife suffered mi nor injuries. Mrs. Suiter was born Aug. 27, 1901 in Colchester, 111. She had lived in the Roseburg-Glide area for the past 26 years moving here from Colorado. Her husband Jo seph, preceded her in death in February of this year. He estab- lislftd Suiter's Building Supply of Roseburg. She was a member of the First Church of the Nazarene of Roseburg. Surviving besides her daughter Merle, are two other daughters, Mrs. Pauline Merle of Meridian, Idaho, and Mrs. Opal Vlesselmey er, of Nampa, Idaho; seven sons, Lewis, Joseph, Jim, Samuel, Glen, John William, all of Roseburg, Chester of the U.S. Navy in San Francisco; a sister, Mrs. utile Bo zarth of Oklahoma City, Okla.: four brothers, Ed Fry of Eugene, Claude Fry of Hutchinson, Kan., Bill Fry of Pasadena, Calif., and Elzy Fry of Sacramento, Calif.; and 18 grandchildren. Funeral services will he held Tuesday at 3 p.m. in Wilson's Chapel of the Roses. The Rev. Rob ert Hempel of the Nazarene Church will officiate. Concluding i$G3es and vault interment will be in Roseburg Memorial Gardens MONDAY, Condition ed. Cope said it might be two or three days, or possibly a week. A hospital spokesman said Sob len's condition this morning "is still rather serious but he is slight ly improved since admission." He added there "are no plans for an operation at present." No Vital Organs Damaged The spokesman stressed there were no plans to move Soblen from the hospital today. He said it ap peared Soblen had damaged no vi tal organs when he thrust the ser rated knife into his body. The suicide attempt came short ly before the El Al airliner began the descent for the landing at Lon don Airport to refuel for the flight to New York. The ,62-year-old Lithuanian-born spy, who had been sentenced to life imprisonment for spying for the Russians during wartime, lost two pints of blood before his stealthy suicide attempt was dis covered by James McShane, chief of U.S. marshals, and Israeli, po nce nr. Heinnch Gottlieb. Hides Knife Soblen had secreted the knife following dinner and hid it under blanket. He stabbed himself without making a sound and his action went unnoticed until blood started to well through the blan ket he had wrapped around him self. A hospital spokesman said a British detective was on guard in Soblen s room. The spokesman said Soblen had not yet asked to see a British legal representative "He doesn't seem concerned at the moment about his situation." Soblen was expelled from Israel early Sunday for illegal entry. He jumped $100,000 bail in New York last Tuesday to flee to Israel in a desperate attempt to escape serving a life sentence imposed by a federal court for wartime es pionage-:..-,rfc-- iVv..-? -a intormed sources in rei aviv said Soblen was expelled under top secret conditions at the re ouest of Premier David Ben-Gur- ion. Soblen had entered Israel with the Canadian passport of his dead brother. Neither the Tel Aviv magistrate, who had ordered Soblen held for 10 days after his apprehension last Thursday, nor the attorney Sob len had retained were aware of his expulsion until it had been carried out. A Ministry of Interior- spokes man said the deportation was or dered to "prevent a repetition of fleeing offenders using Israel ior asylum." Sid Leiken New Forest Adviser Sidney Leiken, president of L&H r.iimhor Cn. nf Sutherlin. has been named to the Pacific Northwest Regional Advisory Council ot the U. S. Forest Service. AnnnlntpH nt tha Rama tima WBB Charles A. Sprague, publisher of tne uregon statesman in saiem. The council, formed in 1952, nnnnanla tha Pnoinnnl Frtl-intplv .f. Herbert Stone and Director of the SIDNEY LEIKEN ... on NW committee Pacific Northwest Forest and Range Experiment Station Robert W. Cowlin on policies, programs and procedures affecting national inrest administration in Oregon and Washington. Other members of the council are: Chairman Philip Hitchcock of White. Swan. Wash.: Burke Bark- Vr nf Vt,alt Uttct, n Pan. non of Portland, LaSelle Coles of Prineville, Ben Day of Medford, Paul Neils of Portland, A. Lars Nelson of Seattle; Dr. Charles Ode gaard of Seattle, Devere Penhol- low of Redmond, Harry Sprinker of Tacoma, Ira Staggs of Baker, Julius Viancour of Portland, W. S. Vickeonan of Moses Lake, Wash. Marion Weatherferd of Arlington, Wash., and C. DTWcyerhauser uf Tacoma. OREGON JULY 2, 1962 aaaaaaaaaaaaaV-aill'il atUi. i : m aMaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai A SPECIAL AWARD was received by the Douglas County Sheriff's Posse for its participation in the opening day parade of the Damascus "Little World's Fair." John Woodman, second lieutenant in charge of drills and parades, is shown here with the gold ribbon bestowed by the Western Paraders Association. (News-Review photo) Senate Opens Debate On Care Compromise WASHINGTON (UPI) The Senate opened debate today on a bipartisan compromise medical care for the aged bill. . Worked out in consultation with Republicans, the pending measure calls for participation of the states and private insurance companies in a health' Care plan; It also, ex tends health benefit coverage to an 2.5 million persons not covered by Social security. The bill carries the sponsorship of 23 senators, five of them Re publicans. One of the burs back ers, Sen. Hubert H. Humphrey, D-Minn., predicted a House ap proval for the measure, if it wins big margin of approval in the Senate. The estimated cost for a person making a minimum of $5,200 a year would be $13 a year. This would cover limited hospital care, plus limited nursing home and out patient care. It also would cover some drug costs. Other congressional news: HOOVERA House appropria tions subcommittee made public today a charge by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover that the nation is not domg all it can to wipe out crime. Hoover told the com mittee "public apathy and the lack of citizen cooperation" is one of the great weaknesses In the war against crime. U.N. BOND ISSUE The House Foreign Affairs Committee will question Assistant Secretary of State Harlan Cleveland today on the proposed U.N. bond issue. Cleveland is the latest in a series of administration witnesses who have testified in support of the $100 million bond designed to tide the U.N. over its financial crisis. BROADCASTING LICENSES Sen. William Proxmire. D-Wis.. Introduced a bill today to bar the Federal Communications Commis sion from favoring members of Congress in the award of broad- Days Creek Brother, Sister Succumb Oyer Weekend A brother and sister, who lived at Days Creek, both passed away over the weekend. Ophur Purdue, (7, died Satur day at his home after a short ill ness. The sister, Amanda Helen Wldrig, 75, wan found dead in her home in that community Sunday. She ha fallen, and her nose was broken. Dr. John Donnelly, county medi cal examiner, said an autopsy is being performed on Mrs. Wldrig to determine the cause of death. but that there was considerable bleeding from ttie nose and dark places about her face. She previ ously had been treated for a brok en hip. Daughter Finds Wemen She was found by her daughter, who lived next door, about i p.m., Sunday. She had not been seen since the day before. c Mrs. Wldrig was born at Elk Creek, near Drew, March 24, 1887. She had lived at Powell Butte in Eastern Oregon from 1910 to 1930, returning then toOhe Days Creek area. She married Earl Wldrig In 1023 In Spokane. He survives Purdue was born in DaysSCrcek Feb. 18, 1895, and had lived all his life In that vicinity. Their mother was a Tiller, from whom the town of Tiller was tiamcd. Pur- 10c Per Copy cast licenses. Proxmire said the FCC had justified an award of television channel in part on the ground that stockholders of the company wore membors of Congress. ) He said this type of criterion could turn into a form ot -"payola," y Oregon Streams Claim 3 Lives By United Press International A boy balancing on a mid stream rock and a man trying to swim the Snake River drowned during the weekend in Oregon. In addition, an Oklahoma man, Emmett Lee Keling, 58, died Sun day in the Rogue River five miles east of Gold Beach. Sheriff's of ficers said he may have suffered a Heart attack while going to the aid of a daughter, who reached shore safely. Thomas Jefferson Fotta Jr.. 10. of Creswell was lost Sunday aft ernoon while playing with a group of children in Fall Creek about 16 miles southeast of Eugene. Witnesses said the children were balancing on a rock in mid- current. Thomas lost his footing and was swept away, A man on the bank jumped in to try to save the boy. Thomas bobbed up once and then dis appeared. His body was recov ered about two hours later. At Ny8sa, Henry Van Twist, 34, of Nyssa was presumed drowned in the Snake River Saturday night. A companion, Richard Straus bough, said the two jumped from the Nyssa bridge and planned to swim to shore. Strausbough reached the bank of the 200-yard wide river, but Van Twist did not. due's wife, Verona, preceded him in death. Mrs. Wldrig Is survived by four daughters, Mrs. Susie Purdue, Days Creek; Mrs. (iladys Wil liams, Castroville, Calif., Mildred Johnson, Seattle, and Mr;. Eliza beth Harris, Tacoma; two sons. by e former marriage, William and Nicholas Rachor, both of Pow ell Butte. Two brothers, Daniel and James Purdue, Days Creels; and thaye sisters, Mrs. Keatha Smith, Canyonvllle, and Mrs. Artie Lahcy, and I third not listed; sev en grandchildren and eight great grandchildren. Sewlcee Set Rxnoral Servians for Mrs. Wld rig will be held Tuesday at 1 p.m. at Ganz Mortuary it Myrtle Creek, with the Rev. Don Camp bell officiating. Private interment will m held later in the IOOF cem etery. Purdue Is survived by two sons, WiUism and James; i daughter, pudlth Ann Purdue, and two broth ers, Daniel and James, all of Days Creek, and the sisters, Kea tha Smith and Mrs. Lahcy. Funeral services wore held to day at 2 p.m. at Ganz Mortuary, the Rev. Mr. Campbell officiat ing, and Interment following in the 'n ill. frsn . Canyonvllle IOOF cemetery. 155-62 Two Guards SAN QUENTIN (UPI) Si Death Row inmates at San Queo tin Prison took two guards hos tage in a hold effort to escape early Monday and surrendered three hours later amid a barraea of tear gas shells. We gambled and we lost." said Luis Moya, one of the six convicts. "We were going out the gates. They also surrendered two mini they had taken from one of the hostages, gun rail officer C.L. De atrick. Deatrick was struck on the head by the inmates but not seriously injuried. "We wanted to Bet out." War. den Fred Dickson quoted tha in- maies as saying. "We didn't have much to lose. We're all going to be executed anyway." uicKson said the plans of the six men went awry when they discovered that the hostage guards did not have keys to the two heavy doors which seal off death row. No Chance, Says Warden He said the convicts, flndlnir this strategy foiled, planned to use their hostages to persuade prison officials to open the doors and let the six convicted murder-' ers walk out of the prison. But, Dickson said, San Qeuntin, policy is that even the warden could be shot and guards would still not be authorized to open the gates and let inmates walk out The tear gas, Dickson said, was the principal reason the convicts surrendered. The first sign of trouble came when Roy B. Kardell the guard assigned to Death Row, tele phoned at 1:07 a.m. and said urgently, "We're in trouble." De atrick went to his aid and mom ents later associate Warden Dale frady learned that both men' were hostages. The prisoners took a 38-callber revolver and a 12-guage ahotgun from Deatrick. More than a dozen guards, led by Associate Warden Louis Nel son, massed o: a ledee outside the row of cells occupied by the conuemened men and fired tear gas into the cell area at 2:45 a.m.: The prisoners responded with a telephone plea to Warden Fred Dickson to "knock It off." Theys said thoy would release the hos-, tages when guards stopped flrlnj tear gas. The six involved in the escape plot were identified as Moya, Clyde Bates, Manuel Chavez, Au gustine Baldonado, Wlllard Win hoven, and David Blckley. All six are convicted murderers. Order Restored James Neiswonger. supervisor nf the parole violator unit, said the' prisoners returned to their ' cells 1 at 4:07 a.m. and order was re-' stored.' He said only the six condemned ' men participated in the attempted break, and that other Death Row prisoners were urging them to give up after the tear gas was fired. The six got out of their relt.' by sawing the ban with a hack saw. It was not known how or where they obtained the hacksaw. ' Five of them sawed their way out and thoy broke the lock on Win- hoven's cell and released him. Then they overpowered Kardell and after that, Deatrick, who was on duty on a gun rail within the cell block. Neiswonger said they probably struck Deatrick from be hind with some instrument. The prisoners held their first conversation with the Warden at 2:30. They asked for two houra to make up their minds but the warden refused. Then they -asked for an hour and the warden again refused. Nelson and Associate Warden Walter Achuff were sent to talk to the inmates. They persuaded them to release the hostagei and surrender. Vhe prisoners, m agreeing to surrender, asked only that they not be harmed and that no re prisals be taken against them. Neiswonger said that it was un likely the men would be punished. "There's very little that can happen to them," he laid. The only likely punishment would be for some of their privileges to be withdraw!.. Bates, convicted for the "gas bomb" murder of six patrons of a Los Angeles tavern, waa ap parently the ringleader ot the escape, according to Associate Warden Dale Frady. Jafcees Schedule Junior Golf Test The Roseburg Junior Chamber of Commerce will sponsor four young goljprs at the state Jaycee gun tourney in roruana rfmy la through 14, but the youngsters must earn the berths. "Rusty" Dlehl, chairman of the local tournament, said the Rose burg tourney will be held this Thursday and Friday at Stewart Park and Roseburg Country Club golf courses. Those wishing to try for the state bertm must pick up entry blanks9 at the Roseburg Country Club or Stewart Park and turn them In by Wednesday afternoon at 5. The tournament is open U anyone who will SSbt be 18 before! Aug. 15.