Solons Talk Varied Topics c
At Roseburg Chamber Meet
By LEROY INMAN
NtwiRtvitw Stiff WriUr
Topics ranging from community
colleges (see other story) through
taxes and Highway 42 bonds to
daylight saving time were dis
cussed in an informal question
and answer forum meeting of the
Roseburg Chamber of Commerce
Slonday noon in the Umpqua Hotel.
Douglas County legislative dele
gates. Sen. Albert G. Flegel and
lieps. W. 0. Kelsay and Sidney
l.eiken, each spoke briefly and an
swered questions on legislative ac
complishments. Daylight Question
The daylight time issue couldn't
be kept out of the session and the
legislators were asked their views.
Flegel said he voted against the
measure giving local option to the
five counties around Portland, as
he preferred to keep the state on
unified time. He added, however,
that he considered the matter so
unimportant at the time that he
actually had to check back to see
how he voted when so much furore
came up.
Kelsay said he voted against the
bill as he thought that was the
people's choice, although he per
sonally favored daylight time.
Improves Business Climate
Leiken, who voted for the meas
ure in its final form, said he felt
at the time it would improve the
business climate of the state, and
he felt it his duty to do anything
that brought this about. He thought
it would have no effect in Douglas
county. He read a letter from a
Fortlander thanking him for his
vote and stating the many advan
tages Portland business men real
ized from the decision.
The legislators emphasized the
measure did not set up daylight
time in these five counties, it
merely gave them local option.
Another interesting sidelight was
the explanation the legislature had
full legal authority for its action,
in spile of the peoples' vole on
the issue at the last election. The
voters had merely defeated a bill
which would have put the state on
daylight time. They did not vote
to keep it on standard time, legal
ly speaking.
Singling, Out Rsason
The legislators were asked why
the five counties were singled out
and whether that represented spe
cial legislation. The questioner was
informed much of the legislature's
time is taken up with approving or
disapproving special legislation af
fecting specific counties. Flegel
stated it was difficult for a legis
lator from Douglas County for ex
ample to vote on what's good for
Malheur County. He said this may
be corrected eventually with coun
ty home rule, a new concept being
experimented with in some states
and permissible in Oregon.
The local legislators do not feel
approval of Highway 42 bonds was
a breach of the Highway Commis
sion's authority. Kelsay stated that
he thought it necessary for the
legislature to step in and straighten
out the commission if its program
is considered to be lagging. He
said the commission members ad
mitted the Highway 42 job should
have been started in 1950. He
slated also that the governor, who
appoints the commission, had ask
ed for the $4,000,000 in Highway
' 42 bonds.
' Kelsay admitted that such action
left opportunity for some "log roll
ing" in the form of demands from
other parts of the state, but he
does not believe there is too much
danger of the situation getting out
of hand. They expressed hope some
of these immediate funds will be
spent in the Camas Mountain area.
and not all on the other end of
the Highway 42 project.
Tax Situation OK -
The legislators expressed them
selves as pretty well satisfied with
Oregon's tax situation, . despite
some admitted discrepancies which
prohably should be corrected.
Flegel stated, and the others
agreed, that it is probable a sales
tax will come to Oregon, when
there is a definite need. They
stated they felt the income tax bet'
ter represented the people's abil
ity to pay, and pointed to buge
deficits in the budget of our
neighboring states of Washington
and California which both have
sales taxes, as well as many other
taxes.
Flegel said he did not believe a
sales tax earmarked for education
but limiting other taxation would
pass as educators do not want their
funds limited.
The delegates expressed them
selves as pretty well satisfied with
results of the legislature, despite
some lack of actions. They agreed
that the tax program which failed
to pass was not particularly need'
ed.
Junior Solon Commtnti
Leiken. the junior representa-
tive, was asked his opinion of his
first session. He stated he enjoyed
it very much and felt he got a lot
out of it. He commented that he
didn't know that legislators actual
ly worked so hard.
The meeting scheduled for noon
daylight time, did not get under
way until sometime later, mem
bers drifted in for almost an hour.
The noon meal serving started
about 12:35 DST (11:35 Standard
Time).
Elliott Molschenbacher had
charge of the program.
Explorer Scouts
Holding Confab
PORTLAND (AP) Explorer
Scouts from the Pacific Northwest
and Alaska are holding a confer
ence here.
"Exploring the Frontiers of To
morrow" is the theme of the ses
sion, which ends at noon Wednes
day.
States represented at the meet
ing are Washington, Idaho, Won
tana and Oregon.
Rests Comfortably
WASHINGTON (AP) Rep
Edith Green, DOre., Monday
night was reported resting com
fortably in a hospital, several
hours after undergoing a gall
bladder operation.
Her office said she will not be
allowed to have visitors for some
time, although she is expected to
be released in 10 days or less.
Ocean City, Md., becomes the
second largest city in Maryland
during the summer. The popular
Atlantic resort s permanent popu
lation of 965 swells to 125.000 on
some July and August weekends.
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PART OF THE GROUP INVOLVED in the Oregon Trail Council Explorer Group taking
the onnuol Umpqua River canoe trip is shown here, starting out on the journey from
Stewart Park. (Chris' Studio).
Explorers EmbarkOn Annual Trip
Down River To Sawyer's Rapids
A sea going safari in two-man
canoes was begun on Monday from
Stewart Park and Winchester
Bric'ee.
The group, composed of Ore
gon. Trail Council Explorers, con
sists of 39 youngsters and three
leaders, according to Phil Meagh
er, Roseburg Boy Scout director.
At least- one Roseburg youngster
and one from Glide are along, the
first time there's been local young
ster participation.
The main party started out from
Stewart Park, though the more
experienced hands those who
went on the trip last year began
from Winchester Bridge in order
to be able to negotiate the Brown's
Bridge Rapids.
They camped Monday night at
Singleton, and will camp at Mack
Brown County park tonight and at
the Camp Fire Girls camp at Tyee
on Wednesday night. Thursday the
stop is at the Smith's Ferry Bridge
and Friday night they end at Saw
yer's Rapids.
The whole walerborne distance
is about 80 miles. The trip is a
revival of a years ago war canoe
annual pilgrimage, with Scout of
ficials finding that the two-man
canoes are proving highly success
ful. The leader is Johnny Raffetlo
of Coos Bay. his assistant Fred
Hanson of Euscne. and the river
guide Hank Minkler of Junction
City, all of whom hold positions
comparable to Meagher's,
Council Votes Support
To Southern Pacific .
Roseburg City Council Monday
voted to support the Southern Pa
cific Co. in its bid to gain control
of the Western Pacific Railroad.
Robert Johnson of the SP, appear
ed before the council and asked the
city's support when the S Pappears
before the Interstate Commerce
Commission in San Francisco.
State Grange Opens
Annual Convention
BEAVERTON (AP) The Ore
gon State Grange, opened its 88th
annual convention here, heard
Gov. Mark O. Hatfield say Mon
day night he will continue to fight
idleness.
He said this is his stand in what
he called a "running feud" with
the state Public Welfare Commis
sion. In a talk about slate economic
development, Hatfield said, "We
in Oregon believe in work. It is
noble, proper and right for every
able-bodied man to work for his
bread.
Hatfield said it is not right for
able-bodied men to collect welfare
payments while others support
them "by the sweat of their
brows." '
College Plan
Talked At Meet'
Roseburg Is in favorable posi
tion to bo considered for stale
funds in its community college pro
gram at the next legislative ses
sion, according to Slate Sen. Al
bert G. Flegel.
The senator made this Matement
at the Roseburg Chamber of Com
merce forum luncheon Monday
noon at the L'mpqua Hotel, when
he and Reps. W. (). Kelsay and
Sidney Leiken were guests.
$1,700,000 Voted
Flegel, in answer to a question
by Wayne Crouch, chairman of the
chamber's community college coni
niittce, explained that the legisla
ture set up a program and appro
priated $1,700,000 for community
colleges. The sum is for building,
remodeling of buildings or pur
chasing of buildings lor three areas
not specified, three colleges now
in existence and convening of a
junior college to a community col
lege. The program would aid the com
munity college already established
at Bend, enlarge facilities in a
well-established vocational educa
tion urogram at Astoria, trans
form a junior college in Portland
to a community college and aid in
establishing the community college
at Coos Bay.
' Aid will be given in establish
ing colleges in three other areas
of the state within the next eight
years. Roseburg, because of its in
terest shown in setting up of a
community college to open this
fall, will be in a position to be
recognized by the next session.
Expenses Set Up
Flegel explained that the slate
already spends 7 to 8 million dol
lars a year on vocational educa
tion. These funds would be direct
ed toward the community college
effort, along with other necessary
financial aid.
The program as set up in cur
rent legislation, he said, is aimed
at eliminating part of the tremend
ous growth problems at the state
institutions of higher education.
The community college would of
fer education to students out of
high school unable to afford en
rollment at regular, colleges. It
would weed out a lot of persons who
do not prove to be of college cali
ber, and it would provide prcpara
lory work toward college enroll
ment for those planning to com
plete their education.
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