VOL. XXIV NO. 3
PORTLAND, OREGON, SUNDAY MOKNINGr JANUiiRt 15, lb05.
PRICE FIVE.. CENTS.
FOR NEW TARIFF
Many Portland Voters
Favor Revision.
APPROVE PRESIDENT'S PLAN
Changes, They Say, Should Be
Made Where Needed.
FEW "STANDPATTERS" FOUND
Republicans Interviewed at Random
3how Surprising Unanimity of
-Sentiment In Support of
Roosevelt's Policy.
The consensus of opinion of Portland
merchants Is in favor of tariff revision as
proposed by President Roosevelt if the
following quotations may be accepted as
a criterion. An Orcgonian reporter was
asslgnd to Interview Portland Republicans
upon the question. The result shows that
opinions were almost unanimous In favor
of a revision of the existing tariffs.
Many of Portland's most prominent
merchants are quoted, although the in
terviews were taken at random. Friday
the reporter walked along one side of
"Washington street, from the river to
Twelfth street, dropping in at an occa
sional place of business without looking at
the sign or nameplate. The afternoon was
given to a few stores on Morrison street.
Saturday afternoon waB devoted to the
-wholesale district. Front street in particu
lar Almost in every instance the replies
were heartily in favor of tariff revision,
and while the contrary arguments are
made by men who are well known in
business circles it is apparent that they
are outnumbered by pro-revision argu
ments from men equally as prominent and
capable.
With the rank and file opinion was also
In favor of the revision as will be seen In
-& perusal of some of the paragraphs fol
lowing and a number of men were dis
covered who have. been converted to be
lieve In the doctrines of republicanism,
after years of Democratic enthusiasm, by
the man who heads the Republican party,
"," 'orr HooFovelt.
. h asked each person inter-
Do you. support the plan of President
Roosevelt to bring about tariff revision
(not tariff reform) by the Republican
party" The interviews are as follows:
Absurd to "Stand Pat."
When asked to. express an opinion on
the proposed tariff revision, Dr. S. E.
Joscphi said:
I cannot see that the interests here
will be Jeopardized by bringing the con
clusions of a committee as proposed by
President Roosevelt before a special ses
sion of Congress. The matter of tariff
revision is one that requires great study
and must be deliberately considered. Some
time has elapsed since the existing tar
iffs were put into force and there are cer
tain revisions which should be made If
deemed necessary- The subject must be
looked at in a broad sense and regulated
in such a way that the country and not
the individual or the state will be bene
fited. I feel that the attitude of the
'stand patters' Is utterly absurd. When
reduced to Its logical analysis their ar
gument that 'a revision will disturb the
country' means simply that the tariff
must never be revised. If I am not mis
taken the Republican party pledged itself
to revise the tariff, and if the Republicans
do not. why they will not be keeping
faith with the people that gave them the
election. The revision of the tariff if
brought about with proper study, will
certainly be a good thing for the whole
country." .
T O'Malley. of Dryer, O'Mallcy & Co..
commission merchants, 12S Front street,
said:
"I have not followed the tariff question
lcsely. but have so much-corvfldence in
President Roosevelt that I am sure any
thing he proposes Is for the good of the
countr. and for that reason I feel that
the revision will be the right thing. I
was iroid when I cast my first vote. I
went down the line of the ballot and put
crosses next tp all the Democrats. When
Roosevelt came into prominence he made
me a Republican."
WlHIam E. Farrell. tobacconist. S02'
Washington street. In expressing his opin
ion, said:
"I am a Democrat. bu,t 1 sometimes look
at the man and not at the party. I voted
f"r McKlnley and I voted for Roosevelt
because I think he is right, and while' the
tariff revision does not interest me. I am
satisfied that it will be a pood thing."
S Farrell. father of William E. Farrell.
is also a democrat, but did not vote for
Roosevelt. He does not agree with the
Representatives In Washington, D. C.
but quite to the contrary, thinks that
the tariff revision will be a good thing.
Revision Is Needed.
I think that tho tariff revision will be
a great thing for the whole country,"
said J, X. James. 224 Washington street.
Mf James conducts a fruit and refresh
ment stand and says that he is a thor
ough Republican.
George E. Kramer, manager of W. P.
Kramer & Co., tailors, S Washington
street, said:
I can only speak from my own experi
ence and I must say that a revision of
the tariffs would be a vary good thing
for the business. The woollen trade of
the country Is at present In the hands of
the American Woollen Company, a trust,
and 1 think that a revision will ultimately
remit In the breaking of this combine. I
am a staunch Republican, but I believe
in the revision."
J 1 Wilbon. in tho employ of Young's
Cafe, at Twelfth and Washington streets,
said
I have every .confidence in Roosevelt
and feel that his propositi to revise the I
tariffs will not only be good for the J
r-i uui lor ine wnoie country.
Joseph Young, proprietor of Young's
Cafe, said:
"1 didn't vote for Bryan and I didn't
vote for Parker, and I believe that the
tariff revision will be a fine thing for the
Coast "
W. E. Moore, a barber. 422 Washlnrton i
street, expresses himself as emphatically 1
in favor of tariff revision. j
"The revision of the tariff will curtail J
the operations of the trusts and.do away
with the danger of trouble which would
eventually result," said H. O. Fawsett,
butcher, 374 Washington street.
F. J. Fellows, grocer, 374 Washington
street, said:
"I believe that any steps to make the
tariffs lower will be of very material ben
efit to the country at large."
Donald H. Jessop, of Strelblg & Jes
sop, druggists, 342 "Washington street,
said:
"Roosevelt is a safe and sound man,
and his proposal to revise the tariffs is1
also safe and sound."
Alter Some of the Tariffs.
"When the Dlngley and Mills tariffs
were passed," said M. Slchel, haberdasher,
2SS Washington street, "I was in business
In Prinevllle in the eastern part of the
state. Sheep dropped $1 a head and wool
was about seven cents. With McKlnleyts
election prices went up on stock to $3 and
wool Jumped to 14 and 15 cents. Times
have been good since, and I think what
Roosevelt proposes to do will make tbem
better. If some of the tariffs are revised
it will be a great thing for the entire
country."
H. J. Martin, of Rowe & Martin, drug
gists, Sixth and Washington streets, said:
"If the revision is brought about as
Roosevelt proposes, it will be a wise
thing."
1 have confidence In everything Roose
velt undertakes," said Dr. C L. Haynes.
optician, 223 Morrison street, "because he
is a man of conviction. He may lack the
sedatencss of his predecessor, but he is
perfectly honest in his impetuosity. Re
vision will be a great thing for the coun
try and I cannot conceive why it Is said
that the West is not interested In the pro
posed revision."
K. D. Beutgen. shoe merchant, 393 Mor
rison street, said:
"i believe in protection and not in free
trade, but at tli'e same time I also be
lieve that the revision will be a splendid
thing if confined to tariffs where it Is
deemed necessary."
"I am not In favor of either of the ex
tremes," said A. J. Clark, of Clark Bros.,
florists, 289 Morrison street, "and feel that
a revision will be of benefit to the coun
try." Francis Mason, of Sealy, Mason & Co.,
grocers, 275 Morrison street, said:
"I axa. heartily in favor of tariff revise
ion. Even if goods do not come from
Europe, the revision will have a tendency
to reduce the price of domestic goods,
which -will be of benefit to our business
naturally. So many goods in the gro
cery line are controlled by trusts that we
are practically at their mercy while the
high tariffs exist, I think that the revis
ion will benefit the whole country, and
the West in particular, in which of course
we are most interested."
Louis Rosenblatt, of S. Rosenblatt &
Co.. clothiers. Third ahd Morrison streets,
said:
"I think that the tariff should be re
vised. Manufacturers now sell articles in
the old country cheaper than here, plows,
sewing machines and tin goods, Xor in
stance, and the revision will force them
to give better prices to - the home mer
chants. I do not see why the discrimina
tion against home merchants should con
tinue, and the tariff revision will have a
tendency to end It"
"The salvation of the West is In a reas
onable rate to .ship lumber East," said
Councilman Flegel. a well-known Demo
crat. "The tariffs should be revised to
such extent that when car shortages come
the railroads cannot whoop tip rates and
make the industry suffer. The railroad
should be made to accommodate the -traffic
offered it. Our opinion is controlled
by the way in which the revision will af
fect us. If it is for our benefit, we are
heartily in favor of revision."
Many Duties Too Large.
J. K. Gill, stationer, 123 Third street,
said:
"The tariffs should be revised, because
in many lines commodities are paying
larger duties than they should. The pro
tection in many Instances is greater than
is required. Tariff revision will material
ly benefit the country."
"We cannot make a law to hold good
for all time," said E. C. Goddard, of the
Goddard-KeUy Shoe Company. Sixth and
Washington streets. "A tariff revision,
where necessary, will be a wise thing, in
my opinion."
A. W. Bowie, of the PorUand Billiard
Parlor, said:
"I have not civen taHir mir.v.
but a revision will, I think, be good."
Views of a Protectionist.
"f am a protectionist," said A. H. Gris
wold. of Grlswold & Pheclev. tailors ui
Sixth street, "and like to. see the tariffs
Kept as high as nossible. Thnt r
course, within reason. The subject is'one
requires mucn study and a man
should not give his opinion without con
sidering how a revision will affect others
tnan himself. I don't doubt but what a
revision will be good In some tariffs, but
as rar as imported goods are concerned I
am content to nav tho tnirr k ,
Itr,enucs' and 1 am remunerated ad
y J clientele."
F. M. Butler, secretary of the Pacific
Construction CnmnnnT-
in Wells. Fargo & Co.'s Bank and said:
. , . pam mucn attention to the
tariff, but I feel that the revision will be
' benefit to the country provided It Is
confined to certain tariffs."
"The time has come for a revision of
the tariff and I am heartily in favor of
it. ' said City Engineer Charles Wanrer
last night.
When Interviewed. W. K. Newell, mem
ber of the House of Representative re
siding at Dllley. Washington County,
said:
"l would not like to see Congress tear
the tariffs to pieces, but with proper
study, a revision will be of great benefit
to the country."
"When an Industry becomes self-supporting,
it does not need the degree of pro
tection the law accords, and I feel that
the tariff should be revised so that such
an Industry should take Its chances with
similar industries of the world." said
R. N. Donnelly, member of the House of
Representatives.
A. Oberdorfer. of tho Thanhauser Hat
Company. 72 Front street Industries that
needed protection some years ago arts
not In need of any today, and I would
like to see a revision.
Lowcngart, of Lowengart & Co.. Stark
and Front streets I bellave that the
great advancement of the country's man
ufacturing interests is largely due to the
protective tariffs, and I am not in favor
of revision.
F. C. Stottler, paper-oox manufacturer.
Oak and Front streets I am doing busi
ness with the people that would' be af
fected by a tariff revision, and conse
quently my business would suffer. Aside
from my own Interests I think that the
present tafiff should continue because the
masses "will surely suffer by the introduc
tion of foreign competition. The laboring
classes in particular will be affected.
Wages will be reduced as soon as the
great combines are forced to compete
with foreigners.
M. I Kline, of Gauld &. Kline, steel
merchants. 44 First street I do not sec
how a revision of tariff would better the
condition of the steel or wool markets.
I am not familiar with other lines of
business, but as regards wool and steel.
I feel that the tariff should be left alone,
as far as the coast is concerned.
C Rosenfeld. of the Rosenfcld. Smith
& Co.. cigars and tobacco. 41 Front
street I think a tariff revision necessary
(Concluded on Page Seven.)
DUKE A PLUNGER
Wild Ventures With
Money and Marriage.
MILLIONS GONE IX AIR
His Half-Brothers - Saved Him
From Bankruptcy.
LAST MARRIAGE HIS THIRD
Mrs. Duke Denies She Received Any.
thing From Him He Will
Avoid Her Till Charges
Are Disproved.
DURHAM. N. C, Jan. H. (Special.)
Here, where tobacco is king and the great
Duke family has had the limelight for
nearly a century, each new report from
New York concerning Brodlc L. Duke i
first carefully weighed and then given its
true value. Only Durham knows the real
Brodle L. Duke, whose younger half
brothers, James B. and B. X. Duke, after
12 years of embarrassing partnership with
him in the tobacco firm of W. Duke, Son
& Co., at the formation of the tobacco
trust in 1890, shared alike with him the
division of $7,500,000.
Three years later Brodle L. Duke was
"broke." Again his brother rescued him
from his creditors and put his affairs Into
shape with a balance of 3300,000. Since
then Brodle L. Duke has gone through
over 1750,000 advanced him by his father,
the aged Washington Duke, now In his
S7th year. That is why the good people of
Durham are angry over the alleged state
ments of Mrs. AllcekWebb-Duke. whom
Brodle L. Duke married from the Hotel
Winton In New York City,-that Brodle
was "cheated by his brothers," that "he
was the real power behind the throne."
and the present inmate of a Long Island
sanitarium "was put away for a purpose."
These are all laughed to scorn In every
quarter of Durham.
Mortgages and Marriages.
In the northwestern section of this town
of 10.000 Inhabitants Brodle L. Duke has a
handsome residence. He onpe owned 150
acres of land. Now it Is plastered with
mortgages. His eldest daughter, Mrs. H.
R. Goodall, has lived in the house since
Sirs. Duke Ko. 2, formerly- Miss Mannle-
W. Woodward, of Alabama, deserted her
husband because of his excessive drinking
and, wlti her boy, now 10 years of age.
took up her residence in California. Bro
dle got a divorce by settling 130,000 upon
his wife for the maintenance of their
child. Brodle L. Duke is now 67 years
old.
In 1890 the American Tobacco Company
was formed, Ind Brodle L- Duke was
carried bodily Into the tobacco trust,
along with his father. Out of the 523.000,
000 stock Issued, W. Duke & Sons got an
allotment of $7,500,000. The five partners
each received J1.500.O0O. which insured to
Brodie L. Duke an annual income of $150.
000, providing he retained possession of
his holdings. His first check for dividends
upon his common stock alone was $90,000.
The stock turned over to him by his
brothers Is worth $5,000,000 today.
Plunged While on Spree.
But Brodle Duke liked to speculate, and
he embarked upon a career of wild plung
ing into different ventures, which ended
In his assignment In 1SS3. The people of
Durham say that Brodle always got into
these unfortunate deals when upon a
spree. Hypothecating his tobacco stock
in Wall street. Duke invested in land
companies in Virginia, North Carolina
and Alabama. He sunk $250,000 In building
a street railway from Memphis to Ral
eigh Springs. Tenn.. which included the
construction of a hotel. Assignees got
his affairs into shape and the half-brothers
saved $300,000 from the wreckage.
MRS. DUKE'S STORY.
Tells All About Marriage and Says
Duke Gave Her Nothing.
NEW YORK. Jan. 14. Mrs. Brodle L.
Duke, whose marriage to Brodle L. Duke,
a half-brother of the president of the
American Tobacco Company, was followed
by her husband's committal to a sani
tarium and proceedings to Inquire Jnto
his sanity, made a statement today of the
circumstances under which she met and
married Mr. Duke.
She told how she met Mr. Duke as the
result of an effort to secure a loan on
tobacco lands in Texas: said that she was
dumbfounded when Duke proposed mar
riage to her; that Duke had promised to
give her stocks and bonds, but had never
done so.
Mrs. Duke said that she had been large
ly Interested In tobacco-raising in Texas;
that she was formerly In business In Chi
cago, and that she was a land and immi
gration agent of the Southern Pacific
Company. She stated that she had re
quired the sum of $18,500 to pay for the
Redficld land. and. as. although she had
possession of It, she did not have a clear
title, because the land belonged to the
bankrupt firm of Sully & Co.. which could
not deliver a deed to her. Her first in
troduction to Mr. Duke was the outcome
of her attempt to secure a loan from him
to develop her lands la Redfleld.
' "Mr. Duke came up and saw me in New
York, and three days afterward he asked
me to marry him. said Mrs. Duke. "1
was dumbfounded at the request, but he
insisted, and I finally consented and we
were married In December. 1904.
"When Mr. Duke asked me to marry
him. we discussed his family affairs. The
fact that he had been twice married and
had four children made me realize it would
be unpleasant for me to marry him and
enter Into the family.
"However, I told him that I would sign
an agreement not to accept any of his
property in case of death, only securing
for myself my own property at Redfleld.
In reply to this, Mr. Duke said:
" 'I believe in you now, and Iwrill never
doubt you any wore. I shall trust ytra
and I will find a way to give you. while
I am. alive, stocks and bends, 'aad wfeftt
Is left after my death the children can
nght over, if they want to.' " .
"DM Mr. Duke give yon such stocks
and bonds?' was asked.
"No, he never did."
Mrs. Duke said she was horn In Buf
falo, N. Y XI years ago. and came to
this city when 12 years old.- Her 'baUht.'
snesaid, was Helen-K. Chapman, a daugh
tcr of the professor of languages In tfee
'University of New London. She also told'
of her marriage In 1863 to George W. Hop
klnson. which, she said, was annulled,
and of her marriage In 1SJ7 to Edward F
Powell and of her divorce, from him to
las. Duke Says,, Chat? Must Be Cleared;
After a conference with .his attorneyto
day, W. G. Bramham, private secretary
to Brodio L. Duke, gave out the follow
ing 'statement:
"Mr. Duke will have nothing to do with
his .wife until all the charges made against
her are thoroughly cleared up. Mr. Duke
is .as sane as 'any man living; and. In ray
opinion, he will be released from the
charge of insanity. I have known him
for years, and he Is capable of managing
his own affairs. Mr. Duke told me yes
terday he would not sec Mrs. Duke or any
of her representatives until the charges
against her were cleared up.
"Mr. Duke says It any of the charges
against Mrs. Duke prove to be true he will
have his marriage annulled."
INDICTED IN TEXAS.
Charge of Swindling Pending Against
Mrs. Duke and Taylor.
CHICAGO, Jan. 14. A special from
Nacogdoches, Tex., to the Daily News
says: Indictments charging Charles F.
Taylor and Alice L. Webb, now Mrs.
Brodle L. Duke with swindling, have been
made public. These true bills were re
turned last September and have been kept
In readiness by the Sheriff, awaiting the
return of either or both of them to the
state.
Charged With Swindling. Bank.
NACHOGDOCHS, Tex., Janl 14. The
specific charge of swindling made
against Charles F. Taylor and Mrs.
Alice Webb Duke grew out of a trans
action in which the pair, it Is alleged,
borrowed $3000 from the president of
the Commercial National Bank, they
having: made alleged false representa
tions and having given alleged false
recommendations. No effort has been
made to secure the return of either of
them to Texas, but District Attorney L
M. Boden says that he is willing' to co
operate with the New York authorities
if they desire to send Mrs. Duke back
to stand trial.
CONTENTS OF TODAYS PAPEB
The Weather.
TODAY'S Rain or snow; xsterlr winds.
YESTERDAY'S Maximum temperature. S6
dec; minimum. 31. Precipitation. 0.23 Inch.
The War la the Far Kast,
Russians sprint a trap on Japanese, rout them
and capture- positions. -Page 3.
Japan denies violation of Chinese neutrality.
Pate 3. ,r
France accused of favoring Russia. 'Pace 3.
Foreign.
Vztieitc .Comber. wins lu - French Chamber
after disorderly seen. Face 2.
Caadiu bold up a whole town In Morocco.-
Pate ,
Paxmcia onjects 10 John Barrett, as both Mlnr;
liter and Governor of canal, zone. Pice !
Msrsan will balld railroad acroec- China, with J
National.- '
President working on nilroad-rate bill, which
may be killed In Senate. Pace L.
Chances of tariff revision are stronger. Pace U.
Ripley explains aboat- alleccd rebatett on Santa
Fe road. Page 1.
Utah citizens testify for Reed Smoot. Page.l.
Polities.
NIedrlnghaus tells how brewers subscribed to
Missouri campaign fund.
Dome tic
Brodle Duke's strange career; he says hla wife
must refute charges; she Is indicted for
swindling In Texas. Pace 1:.
Fire, persons smothered in are in New York.
Page 2.
Philadelphia, dynamiter tried to blow up Fred
erick's statue and Kramer Umhria. j Page 2.
Pacific Coast.
Four amendments to Oregon fishing laws in
bill before the Legislature. Page 3.
Two Washington young ladles have battle
with & lynx. Pace 6.
Y. M. C A. at Oregon Agricultural Collece
will erect a tine bulldlnc. Page 6.
Washington legislators are the guests of Seat-
tie. Pace 7.
Commercial and Mariae.
Fewer failures In Oregon last year than In
1903. Page 15.
Sudden demand for Union Pacific stock. Pace
15.
New York bank statement shows large increase
In cash reserves. Pace 15.
Chicago wheat market generally strong
throuchout seeslon. Pace 15.
California, cured-frult market strong. Page 15.
Olympla libeled and clears for MoJL Page 13.
New steamer line to Southern California,
Page IX
. Sports.
Official averages of the Pacific Coast League.
Page 14.
Waverly Golf Club elects officers. Page 23.
Louis Castro signs with Kansas City. Page 23.
Boxing came to open In Portland. Pace 23.
Portland and. Vicinity.
President Kuykendall and Speaker Mills will
announce committee appointments Monday.
Pace 0.
II. A. Ball sues Dra. Walker for J 10.000 dam
aces. Pace 11.
Patients at open-air sanitarium live in tents,
braving snow and sleet. Pace 12.
S. II. Frledlander will build new theater la
Portland. Page IX
Fair Association fixes dates for annual stocic
events. Pace 16.
Lewis and Clark State Commission names
heads of three exhibit departments. Page
10.
Western Kence; League holds .-cs!on In camp
of rival organization. Pagi. 14.
Portland Republicans, Interviewed at random,
almost unanimous In favor "of tariff re
vision. Page 1.
Federal grand Jury rests while prosecuting
officials sift evidence. Page lo.
Educational exhibit outlined before meeting
of East Side teachers. Page IX
Features and Department.
Editorial. Page 4.
Church announcements. Pace 24.
Classified advertkements. Paces 26-29.
Four months before death-swept Port Arthur
Page 3.
Orecon man who accomplUhed things in Man
churia. Pace 3X
Indian Princess in London otam work. Page
2.
Ordeals of railroad esginemen. Pace 23.
Paul Morton .talks of the country's business
Page 3T.
High explosives in the- hands of the Japanese
Page 40.
Pfcck's Bad Boy. Pace. 37.
The Simple Life. Pace4X .
SocUL Paces 20-21. ,
JJramatlc Pages 18-18. u .
MuslcaL Page23. '' -f
Household and fashion fiyea' 36-SX
Youths deparraraU Pas -44V
Afilll ON RATES
Hepburn Has Sill-Ready
for Congress.
AGREES WITH PRE8IDEIT
HeSaysBiiiWipPasshe House
This.Session,
SENATORS WANT MORE TIME
Ahbthr White ' Houm Conference
Called Unfriendly Scnaters.Can
Talk BUI to brath, hut Extra
SeMien Wdulei "FGllaw,
WASHINGTON. Jan. 14. President
Roosevelt had'a conference today with
Secretary Taft and. Representative
Hepburn, of Iowa, chairman of the in
terstate and foreign commerce com
mittee of the House, regarding railroad
freight rate legislation. At the con
clusion of the conference Mr. Hepburn
said he had pre; (.red a bill on the sub
ject of freight ,'ates which embodied
the recommendations, of the President
so far as they went.
Mr. Hepburn added that in a few
days a conference would be held, prob
ably at the White House, for the con
sideration of the measure he had pre
pared. The President. Secretary Taft,
Attorney General Moody "and others,"
said Mr. Hepburn, "who are especially
Interested In the legislation will par
ticipate In the conference."
"Do you think rate legislation will be
enacted at the present session?"
"X do most certainly." replied 'Mr.
Hepburn. "I believe the House will
pass a measure before the end of this
month, and there Is no reason why It
should not be crystallized into law be
fore the session ends."
There were some informal confer
ences among Senators on the. question
of railroad legislation after the Senate
adjourned, today. The. general opinion
expressed was that there is not suuY
cient time left to accomplish anything
in that line during the present session
of Congress.
SENATE MAY SMOTHER IT.
Rallroad-Rate BUI Will Have to Run
Gauntlet of Talk.
OREGONIAN NEWS BUREAU, Wash
ington. Jan. 14. While there Is a great
deal of agitation on account of the rec
ommendation of the President for legis
lation granting the Interstate' Conjmerce
Commission power to fix rates, it Is very
doubtful whether any thine; can be done
at the present session of Congress. In
fact, it has gone Into history that con
tested legislation cannot pass at a short
session of Congress, because the Senate
with Its rules for unlimited debate al
lows any measure to be talked to death
that Is unsatisfactory to a dozen deter
mined men.
One of the prominent Eastern Senators,
who Is a member of the Interstate Com
merces Committee, was asked about the
prospect of some bill on the lines rec
ommended by the President, and re
marked: "It would require a long period
of Investigation; there would have to be
hearings before the committee, and both
the railroads and the shippers would
have to present their views."
This had but one meaning, which was
that the men antagonistic to any legis
lation intend to consume time and pre
vent anything being dope at this session.
A determined Senate could, outwit any
movement of this kind if there was a
sincere majority In favor of some bill
amending the Interstate Commerce law.
Tho Senate could pass a resolution dis
charging the - committee, and bringing
the bill before the Senate. A majority
could keep that bill before the Senate
to the exclusion of all other business, ap
propriation blUs Included, and cither force
a vote or force an extra session.
Determined Majority Needed.
Of course this requires a determined
majority a majority that intends to
do business. The question naturally
arises whether such a majority is in
the Senate at the 'present timet. There
is a feeling among a number of Sena
tors who are really anxious foe rail
road legislation that a law of fcuca
importance as suggested by the Pren
dent ought not to be crowded through
without due consideration. It v;m
pointed out that any ill-considered
measure would either" fall to utaud
the test of the courts or It might be
too drastic and cause serious trouble
and upset present business conditions.
In fact, most of the opposition to any
legislation 'at this time is based upon
the claim that the railroads form duoh
an Important part of the bulneus of
the country that It would n-Jt t-ike
much to disturb everything- if they
were to be disturbed.
A great deal of pressure "las been
brought to bear upon the President
urging him not to crowd the railroad
legislation at the present Urn-;, hut to
afford ample opportunity V) eonsidrir
the suggestions he has made, and the
suggestions which men whj have
studied the problem have made witn a
view to formulating an equitable
measure. Just what effect this will
have on the President no one can say.
He is not the kind of a man that de
vsirc3 to destroy business prosperity or;
destroy railroad interests, but he is
also a man -who wants justice done the
peopfe.. Should he be convinced that an
attempt Is being made to evade pass
ing a righteous law he would, no doubt
quickly, call an extra sextan of Fifty-
alnth Coagreea, and briag the Senate
aad Hous face to face with, the prob
1b. Fultc sentiment would do the
rear- No CoBgress could stand before
a President ad public sentiment,
which favor legislation . more, equitable
to the yubllc la the matter of transport
tatlon than Is now afforded.
Some Effort Mutt Se Made.
Members qf both houses of Congress
realise that it will not do to allow the
suggestion ot the President to slumber
without an effort to bring about some
thing In the nature of relief. Some of the
raea who have studied the problem say
It is not so ranch a question of high
rates as It is a question of discriminat
ing rates. The matter of differentials. .
long and short hauls, and various other
features of railroad freight rates nave
been dicuesed by members of the two
committees which will have charge of any
legislation .that may bo attempted, and.
there Is yet a wide disagreement between
them as to; what ought to be done.
When Senator Cunom. of Illin61s, was
chairman of the" committee on Interstate
commerce, he had a Maying regarding
that committee showing how difficult It
was to do anything in the way of taiVi
road legislation. "Half of them,'1- he
said, "are" wilting to give the railroads
anything they ask; the other half want
to tear up the tracks." While thla Is
an exaggerated statement. It represepts
some such feeling as now exists In the
committee. Jkere ere- men who are
very radical, and others who are known
to be looking, out for the railroad inter
ests. Probably a similar condition ex
ists in -the House committee.
At the same time the members of the
House committee will In two years go
before the country for re-election, and
they are very likely to give heed to the
demand of the public backed by the sup
port of the President in favor of doing
something. It remains to be seen whether
there Is an actual majority In the Senate
in favor of railroad legislation. On this
depends whether or not anything will be
done this session.
PRESIDENT RIPLEY EXPLAINS.
Alleged Rebate Was Simply Purchase
Price of Coal. -NEW
YORK,' Jan. H. President E. P.
Ripley, -of ,the Atchison, Topeka & Santa
Fe Railway. In a further explanation of
his. telegram to the Interstate ' Commerce
Commission regarding his withdrawal of
a request for a rehearing of the case, in
which Jt is alleged his company gave re
bates to the Colorado Fuel & Iron Com
pany on coal shipments, tonight made
the following statement:
The statements that have been made
relative to the recent hearing of the In
terstate Commerce Commission for the
purpose of investigating New Mexican
rates indicate an utter rnlscoaceptjorr of
the facta disclosed by the testimony, which
are as follows:
The mining industries in Arizona and
Old Mexico located on the El Paso fe
Southwestern Railroad and Its connec
tions, have long .feeen customers of the
Santa Fe Railroad by reason of their
large consumption of bituminous coal. The
favored, coal, by reason of its quality for
steam purposes. Is that mined in North
ern New Mexico and Southern Colorado.
All the mines situated upon the Santa Fe
Railroad -producing- this quality, of coal
.were, owned or controlled by the Colorado,
Fuel h&. Iron' C.Qiupanj. 'Some tiro jrears
ago the Atchlfion QotnTJaay. in ribnrpetlng
'for this business, was confronted with the
necessity of making a specific rate which
would encourage the industries to use
coal instead of oil, which was then being
considered and bad become practicable and
a cheap fuel. In consequence of the large
discoveries bf oil in Texas and Califor
nia. As a result of various negotiations
an arrangement was arrived at whereby
the Atchison Company agreed that it
would carry coal from the mines to Dom
ing for $2 per ton. and would there deliver
the same to the El Paso & Southwestern
Railroad Company, collecting, in addition
to its own freight rate of the' sum of
$1.10 for the Colorado Fuel Company, as
was the custom of all roads in that ter
ritory. Through some inexplicable mistake the
Joint rate was put in force to cover thin
arrangement, -and the tariff, which should
have shown upon Its fnce that the rate
included the price of .coal, failed to dis
close such fact, and as a consequence It
Is nossiWe that there may have been un
intentional violation of the law, but it
is obvious that no one was Injured there
by, because the Colorado Fuel &. Iron
Company received under the arrangement
nothing more than the contract price for
its coal and there were no other ship
pers in that field.
The absurdity of the current reports to
the effect that rebates were paid the Colo
rado Fuel & Iron Company is plainly
shown by the fact that the fuel company
had ho' Interest in the freight rates, all of
which were paid by the consumers.
One phase of the Santa Fe-Colorado
Fuel Sc. Iron case will be heard In the Su
preme Court of the United States orr Jan
uary 3. N. 3. Field, attorney of the
Caledonia Company, who was in Chicago
today on his way to Washington, de
clared that the J4CC000 suit for damages
which his company is prosecuting in the
court will be heard In Washington on a
motion to compel the Arizona courts to
assume Jurisdiction.
The J400.COO damages' asked of the Santa
Fe is because of the alleged fact that the
Caledonia Coal Company was ruined by
"tho rebates paid-by the railroad to the
Colorado Fuel Sc. Iron Company.
Gruber to Manage Burlington.
CHICAGO. Jan. 14. J. M. Gruber. gen
eral superintendent of the Union Pacific
Railway, will- be the next general man
ager of the Burlington lines east of tho
Missouri River, beginning February 1. ac
cording to a report here tonight, which
is believed to be well founded.
OBJECT TO BAEBETT'S SCHEME
Panama Does Not Want Him as Both
Minister and Governor.'
WASHINGTON, Jan. 14. Panamans
are opposed to the recommendation ot
Mr. Barrett., American representative
to the Isthmus, that the offices of Min
ister and Governor of the Canal Zone
be merged Into the office of Governor
Minister. This news comes in a cable
gram from the Minister of Foreign Af
fairs to the Panaman Minister at Wash
ington, Mr. Obaldla, who called at the
State Department today to Inform the
officials cf the fact.
Huge Deposits in Chicago Banks.
CHICAGO. Jan. 14. Deposits of Chicago
banks are greater now by flO.GOO.000 than
were ever, reported before, the total In
five National and 28 state Institutions be
ing in excess of $602,0CO,000- The- total gain
In deposits In all the banks in Chicago
since a year ago is nearly $100,000,000.
Trying t Pull the Indus Off.
NEW YORK. Jan. 15. At 10 o'clock
this' morning tugs were still gulling on
the stranded steamer Indus off' Fire Isl
and, and had succeeded In moving her
slightly astern, although the prospects for
getting her clear before the tide fell were
not very roed.
THING OF PAST
Such v Is Polygamy- in
Opinion of Utah Judge.
DEFENSE OF REED SMOOT
Many Witnesses Deny Mor
mons Rule in Politics,
MATURE JDF ENDOWMENT OATH
Men Who Have Left Mormon Church
Deny- It Conflicts With Duty of
Citizen Idaho Republicans.
Set Trap for Dubois.
WASHINGTON. Jan. 14.-EIeven- wit
nesses testified today before the Seatfe
committee on privileges and elections fn.
the Investigation of protests against the
seating of Senator Reed Smoot. All ex
cept two told of political conditions in
Utah and of the Mormon endowment
house ceremony. Several witnesses said
the ceremony Included no- obligations that
were in conflict with the duties of a citi
zen to his state or nation. Chairman
Burrows asked two of the witnesses to
give the nature of the ceremonies. But
both refused on the ground that they had
given, oaths not to divulge what had taken
place within the temple. They both
claimed not to be Mormons now, one hav
ing been expelled and the other having
voluntarily withdrawn from the church.
A former Judge of the Supreme Court
under territorial and state government
told of the prosecutions for polygamous
cohabitation, expressing the opinion that
polygamy was now almost a thing of the
past and that the sentiment of the Mor
mons in the state was against plural mar
riage. Tho hearings will be resumed Mon
day. James E. Lynch, ot Salt Iake, was the
first witness. He ls-a Democrat and not
a Mormon. Mr. Vancotr. for Senator
Smobt, examined him, concerning, the
statement that Angus M. Cannon, his-brother-in-Jaw,
had said he witnessed the
marriage of Abram Cannon and Lillian
Hamlin in 1896.
Mr. Lynch said he Investigated the state
ment by Angus Cannon at the request b
E. B. Critchtow, and found that Angus
Cannon; was rxiii In California In lS3Sr4)Ut
the witness admitted that his brother-tar
law bad made the statement. He1 de
clared, however, that Cannon was drunk
when he said it.
Chairman Burrows asked Mr. Lynch
concerning the feeling of young Mormons
on the question of polygamy. Witness
said they felt.tluU the practice must tw
"done away with." but that he had heard
nothing of the "young Mormons making
a protest to the heads of the church."
Expulsion Made No Difference.
H. M Dougall, of Springvllle, Utah,
who explained that he was "fired" from
the Mormon Church, was called, to the
stand. He Is postmaster of his town, of
250O inhabitants. He could think of only
five polygamous marriages since 1S0O. His
expulsion from the church In lS74,'he said,
had not made a particle of difference In
his business, even though a majority ot
his business, came from Mormons.
A a Mormon, he took the endowments
in 18S2. He was about 25 years old then,
and was married at that time, which, ho
said," was the- only time he had been mar
ried. About ISO went through with him.
Mr. Worthlngton read the oath of ven
geance, given by certain witnesses, and
Mr. Dougall said the oath was to avenge
the blood of prophets or martyrs on "this
generation," and "not on this Nation-" as
had been testified.
Mr. Dougall' aald he had served In tha
Legislature, and was elected in a Mor
mon county. As to hi3 expulsion from the
church, he had nothing to say.
XHialrman Burrows asked the witness to
state the nature of the ceremony per
formed when he was married in the en
dowment house, and Mr. Dougall replied:
Still Bound to Secrecy.
"I do not believe I care to tell that.
Senator."
"Was there a penalty, attached If yo
revealed what took- place?"
"Yes. sir." r
"What was- that penalty?"
"I decline to state."
"Was It severe?"
"As I remember, it was."
"Was it death?"
"I do not believe I care to answer-any
more questions on that subject." ,
"You have stated part of your recollec
tion, and yet you decline to state the
whole?"
"Yes."'
"You were married when you took tha
endowments?"
"On that day, yes, sir."
Continuing, he said that one could not
b& married In the temple until he "had once
taken the endowments, but that other le
gal marriage ceremonies were performed
outside. Plural marriages, he said, could
not be performed outside of the temple of
tho church.
"You were expeed 30 years ago. you,
say?" asked the chairman.
"Yes, sir."
"And you feel that after these years
separated from the church your obliga
tions are still binding on you?"
"Yes. sir; I have considerable scruples
against divulging anything that I swore
not to reveal."
On direct examination the witness told
Mr. Worthlngton that he had taken obli
gations in a secret society, and he had tha
.same scruples against divulging such obli
gations. A. A. Noon, of Pravo. a Republican
t Concluded on Pace 10.)