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VOL. XLVI. NO. 14,708.
PORTLAND, OREGON, TUESDAY, JANUARY 28, 1908.
PRICE FIVE CENTS.
OHIO SOLID FOR
SECRETARY TUFT
Foraker and Dick Dead
as Politicians.
WILL BE DRIVEN FROM SENATE
Expected to Abandon Fight on
Popular Wish.
SENATORIAL PLOT FAILS
Whole State on Fire With Taft En
thusiasm Every Delegate to Chi
cago for Him Senators Have
Eliminated Themselves.
BT WALTER WBLLMAN.
' CINCINNATI. O.. Jan. 27. (Special.)
Ohio is completely; unreservedly, enthu
siastically for Taft for President. Foraker
Is not only beaten, hopelessly beatan, but
knows it and is about to surrender. To
morrow or the next day the Supreme
Court of the state is expected to hand
down a decision as to the constitutional
ity of the primary law. If that decision
is adverse to the -Foraker contention. It
Is well understood that the Senator will
throw op tils hands, announce that, in-
asmuch as the people of Ixia state are for
Taft, he Is for Taft also, or at least that
he will not further attempt to thwart
their wishes.
Whether or not Senator Foraker decides
to make a formal surrender and the
probabilities are he will the result is not
to be affected. ' Ohio is afire with Taft
enthusiasm. There is no mistaking that.
It Is an enthusiasm among the common
people, among; the masses of the Repub
lican party, and not among the politicians.
The politicians have been compelled to
bow to the popular demand.
Ohio Solid for Taft.
The truth Is that the Foraker conten
tion in this state has for sometime been
nothing but a bluff, a bluff pure and sirn-'
pie. Almost from the first he has been
beaten. Public opinion has run so
strongly for Judge Taft that it has been
impossible for the Foraker-DIek machine
to make any real stand against it. Why
there has been war between the Taft and
Foraker forces in Ohio, why the country
has been fed upon tales of opposition to
the Secretary which might endanger his
chances In the Chicago convention, why
the- National Administration has been
brought Into the squabble, is a long story
with two sides to It. The wrong is not
all on one side, perhaps, nor the right all
on the other. We are not disposed at
this Juncture to analyze the causes, the
misunderstandings, the temperamental
differences, which led up to the so-called
struggle. We are concerned In this dis
patch only with the results Ohio 1j sol
idly for Taft.
Every Delegate Enthusiastic.
There will aot be a single delegate
from the state opposed to Taft at the
National Convention. All will be for
him, instructed for him. loyally and en
thusiastically for him. Tltls is now vir
tually conceded by the Foraker fol
lowing. It Js true there are two dis
tricts In which until recently the Sen
ator's henchmen had hoped to make a
stand, but which they are now
compelled, reluctantly, one may well
Imagine, to confess Impending defeat.
Thus will end the much-heralded
Senatorial plot to defeat the Adminis
tration candidate In his own state. The
rnemies of Taft. or to speak more cor
rectly one should say his opponents, for
he has no enemies, have been to some
extent relying upon Ohio factional
fighting to weaken the Secretary at
Chicago. In view of the facts, that de
pendence, must now be abandoned. It
is a broken reed.
Foraker and Dick Eliminated.
But this is not all. It Is the most
Important, looking to the future. But It
Is not all that is interesting. Not only
Is Taft sure of everything he could ask
for from his own state, but Foraker Is a
ruined politician. Unless a miracle
should happen, unless there should be
a sudden and almost Impossible rever
sal of public opinion, Foraker cannot
secure re-election to the. Senate and
will be forced to retire to private life.
He staked everything on the outcome of
this fight. He placed all his money on
the high card, on a single cast of the
die. He lost. Senator Dick has gone
down with him. Both have committed
hari kari. They have eliminated them
selves. There Is a new era in Ohio
politics, a new era, bringing in new
men.
THE DAY'S DEATH RECORD
D. J. Hennessy, Butte Pioneer.
BUTTE. Mont.. Jan. S7. D. J. Hen
nessy, president of the Hennessy Mer
cantile Company, a pioneer of Montana
and the richest merchant in the North
west, dropped dead on the stret at 8
o'clock today of heart trouble. He
was born at Frederlektown. N. B., in
1854. A widow and three children sur
vive him.
Mr. Hennessy came to Montana in
1879 and engaged in business In Helena
with K. I- Bonner & Co., a pioneer
firm. Three years later he established
a store In Butte, then a small camp.
This place was burned out in 18S9, but
out of the ruins grew the present
store, the largest between St. Paul and
Portland. Mr. Hennessy was many
times a millionaire. He had held high
offices in the National Ancient Order
of Hibernians, was a leading Demo
cratic politician and had given for
tunes to the Catholic church. Ho was
also a Knight of Columbus.
Rev. J. A. Edgren, Swedish Baptist.
OAKLAND. Cal., Jan. 27. Rev. J. A.
Edgren, D. D., a prominent divine and
theological writer, died of heart failure
yesterday at his home in this city after
an illness of a few days. Dr. Edgren
was the fourfder of the Swedish Baptist
Theological Seminary of Chicago and
had a wide reputation as a -writer of
religious works. He served with dis
tinctlon as a naval officer during the
Civil War. He was a native of. Sweden
and nearly 65 years of age.
Woman Who Rejected Lincoln.
SIOUX CITY, la., Jan. 27. Mrs. Mary
Frances Reilly. aged S3, whose family'
for a generation was prominent In
Eastern Iowa and Illinois, died yesterday
at the home of her daughter in this city.
As Miss Mary Sullivan, of Qulncy, Ill
she, in 1S39, was wooed, it is said, by
Abraham Lincoln, whom she rejected. -
She first met Lincoln at Quincy, when
Joseph M. Huston, Architect of Penn
sylvania Capitol, Who Slay Turn
State's Evidence Against Other
(rafters.
he made a trip to that city from Rush
ville, where he was attending court.
General Charles H. Howard.
CHICAGO, Jan. 27. General Charles H.
Howard, a brother of General O. O. How
ard, U. S. A., retired, died at his home
In' Glencoe, a suburb, today, age 70 years.
Mother of the Empress of Japan.
TOKIO. Jan. 27. It was officially an
nounced Saturday that . Lady Showing
Ichijo. mother of the Empress, died Jan
uary 25, at the age of SO years.
SENSATION IN ARREST
Republican Ijeader In Portugal la
Charged AVith' Revolution.
LISBON. Jan. 28, The newspapers an
nounce that Antonio -Almeid. one of the
republican leaders, has .been placed under
arrest In connection with the recent at
tempt to overthrow the monarchy.
The arrest has caused a great sensation
Resignation in Ministry.
dttrt.TN Jan. 27. It is reported that
Sir. Antony Patrick Macdonnell, under
secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ire
land, has resigned.
CONTENTS TODAY'S PAPER
The Weather.
TBSTT7RTA Y S Maximum tenrperarure, 43
deKTfs; minimum, - aejsrces.
TODAY'S Fair; easterly winds.
Foreign.
DelcaAse's speech provokes emery attack
and sensational charges. rage -National.
Senators charge that slavery still exists In
Philippines. Page 3.
Taft makes strong plea for Seattle Exposi
tion before House committee. Page
Railroad presidents plead for more time to
sell coal mines ana reauce teiegrapners
hours. Page 3.
Fowler speaks on currency reform and
praises Morgan as patriot. Page 4.
Politics.
Ohio solid for Taft and Foraker and Pick
politically dead. Page 1.
Bryan canvasses Democrat In . Congress;
dines with Senators, page X.
Domestic,
Supreme Court declares unconstitutional law
to prevent blacklisting on railroads.
Pace .
Suit for millions against wreckers of New
York traction lines. Page 1.
Gladys Vanderbllt married to Count
Szechenyi. Page 3.
Foreign witnesses testify to Thaw's in
sanity and alienists answer long ques
tion. Page 2.
Hurton may turn state's evidence agalnet
Pennsylvania capitol grafters. Page 1.
Police bin . passes , Nevada Legislature.
Page 4.
Farewell dinner to Bishop Paddock in New
York. Pace 3.
Sort.
Kelly beaten twice in Pastime Athletic
meet: Smtthson wins hurdle race but does
not break record. Page 5.
Pacific Coast.
Ruef sivn more time to get lawyer, while
Calhoun clamors for trial. Page T.
Hindus driven from California, town have
mob eaders arrested. Pase l.
Mayor Reddy. of Medford, springs Initiative
Petition Klvint elites exclusive right to
regulate saloons, gambling, etc. Page
Judge Robinson plans revenge on officials
who brought about disbarment. Page 6.
Seattle city official asks to have salary cut
in two. Page 6.
Commercial mud Marine.
Low egg P5&ce expected In coming Spring.
Pag 15.
Sharp fluctuations In wheat at Chicago.
Page U.
Brisk advance In stock prices. Page 15.
Captain W. R. I -ark In dies In the pilot
house of ste&mer Lurline. Page 14.
Portland and Vicinity. '
Heny proves Hall's Inaction in prosecution
of Fulton's clients. Page 1.
Title Bank's orgy of high finance. Page 11.
Portland to have rose-planting day In mid
Winter. Page 16.
First six ml 1 os of H arri man extension to
Puget Sound open February 1. Page 7.
Park Board engages new superintendent and
finds appropriation insufficient - for his
salary. Page 10.
luteal firm may net contract for Union
avenue bridxe. Page 10.
Attorneys pass He In Palmerton divorce
suiu Page 10.
police fear city will b flooded with rag
rants. Page 16.
IT
URN
UPON
OTHER GRAFTERS
Huston's Step in Capi
tol Scandal.
OBTAINS SEPARATE TRIAL
Rumor Architect Will
State's Evidence.
Give
JURY ALREADY SECURED
trmcr High Officials of Pennsyl
vania Accused of Conspiracy to
Hob State of Millions Fur
niture Bought by the Foot.
HARRISBURQ. Pa.. Jan. 27. The
feature of the first day of the trial of
the capitol prosecutions, which began
in the Dauphin County Court before
Judge Kunkel this morning, was the
agreement of the commonwealth to a
separate trial for Joseph M. Huston,
the architect. The commonwealth ob
jected to the motions of Huston's four
co-defendants for separate trials.
which motions were overruled by the
court.
The action of the commonwealth in
agreeing to a sepa'rate trial for Hus
ton has given rise to a rumor that the
architect will turn state's evidence and
tell all he knows of the alleged frauds
in furnishings for the new capitol.
Counsel for the. commonwealth decline
either to afflim or deny this rumor.
"Walt and see," is all they will say,
George S. Graham, of counsel for
Huston, said tonight that It was not
unusual, for the court to grant a sev
erance In conspiracy cases. Mr. Gra
ham also said that Huston had been
subpenaed by the other defendants
and must remain here during the trial
of the cases.
Says Huston Will Tell Truth.
"If Mrt 'Huston'lg called to the
stand, knowing himself to be an inno
cent man," Graham continued, "and as
we know him to be, he will tell the
truth. He has not been.subpenaed as a
witness by the commonwealth. Of
course we know nothing about the
way the commonwealth will conduct
the case."
The alacrity with which the com
monwealth agreed to a separate trial
for Huston evidently was a surprise
to the attorneys for the defendants
John H. Sanderson, the contractor; ex
Auditor-General William P. Snyder;
ex-State Treasurer William L. Mat
thues and James M. Shumaker, ex
Superintendent of Grounds and Pub
11c Buildings. The attorneys for these
defendants Immediately asked that the
court take' a recess, for 15 minutes to
give them an opportunity to consult.
Begin Testimony Today.
In over-ruling . motions for separate
'trials, which were made after the con
sultation. Judge Kunkel said the de
fendants will be affordpd their constitu
tional right to have their cases fully
presented and argued, and that the rea
sons for separate trials were not suf
ficient to Justify the court in granting
them!
The entire day was taken up with the
futile efforts of the attorneys for the
four defendants to "obtain separate trials
and the selection of the Jury. The selec
tion of the Jury was completed late in
the day. The taking of testimony will
probably begin tomorrow.
Charge Now ou Trial.
In the case which is being tried first,
the' commonwealth alleges that the state
was defrauded out of 119,208 in payments
of $49,417 for sofas, . tables and clothes
trees. This furniture was supplied by
Sanderson at the rate of J18.40 "per foot"
the commonwealth will try to show that
the defendants consplr to cheat and
defraud the state by paying for the fur
niture in excess of the contract price
and by falsifying the measurements.
Neither Congressman H. B. Cassell.
whose Pennsylvania Construction Com
pany supplied the metallic furniture for
the capitol, nor the remaining eight de
fendants figure In the five conspiracy
cases called today.
There are 37 cases against the 14 de
fendants, in 30 of which the charge la
conspiracy and in seyen the defendants
are charged with false pretense.
Sanderson's Huge Profit.
Sanderson supplied most of the fur
nishings of the capitol. His contract
amounted to $5,487,899 and his profits in
some instances are alleged to have been
as much as 4000 per cent. Huston de
signed the building and furnishings, his
commlsions amounting to $416,631. Shu
maker is accused of having failed to
audit the bills of Sanderson and Is also
charged with having accepted Huston's
certification that the work was up to
the specifications and contract. Mathues
is alleged to have paid the bills of the
contractors without having them audited;
Snyder is charged with non-performance
of duty in not auditing the bills.
The trial is being conducted In the
dingy, old-fashioned county courthouse,
and its resources have been stretched to
the limit to accommodate the defendants'
attorneys and newspaper correspondents.
MOB ORIS OUT HINDUS
DUSKY STRAXGERS CAUSE AR
REST OF LEADERS.
Charge Them With Robbery and
"Will Appeal to British Consul
.-.- for Protection.
MARYSVILLJ2. Cal., Jan. 27. A mob
of SO ctlzens of Live Oak, nine miles
north of Marysvllle, In Sutter County,
made a raid on two houses occupied by
70 Hindus who had been discharged from
the employ of the Southern Pacific Rail
road yesterday morning, and ordered the
Hindus' to leave town. They were then
driven to the edge of the town and told
to continue.
The leader of the Hindus came to Tuba
City and swore to complaint charging the
members of the mob with grand larceny,
alleging they stole $1950. Two were ar
rested and will be tried tomorrow. The
head Hindu also took tho matter up with
the British Consul at San Francisco,
threatening - International complication.
Members of the mob say no money was
taken.
LIBERTY ENRICHING THE " WORLD . .j
E OF
BUI DEPOSITS
Bryan Tells How to
Avoid Panics.
LIKE OKLAHOMA LAW ADOPTED
Provides for Guaranty Fund by
Assessment.
DINES WITH SENATORS
Does Xot Come to Washington to
Confer About Candidacy Denies
He Was Asked Not to Run.
Outlines . Currency Views.
WASHINGTON, Jan. 27. W. J. Bryan
today held an Impromptu reception in the
rooms of the House committee on ways
and means, where a number of Demo
cratic Representatives and many outsid
ers chatted with him. Asked by some one
to name hlri choice for a running mate,
In the event of his nomination at Denver,
Mr. Bryan laughingly replied:
"I sha'n't tell you. . That Is too bold a
question."
To the newspaper men he said:
"You may say that my coming to Wash
ington was not to consult any men or set
of men as to whether or not I ought to be
a candidate for the nomination. I' have
not put that question to Any men, nor
shall I. The people, not individuals,
have the. sole right to decide that point.
I am not here to solicit support for my
self as a possible Presidential candidate.
I never solicit. Individual support. I never
ask any man to vote for me. In the past
when I was before the people as a candi
date, my efforts t" obtain votes have been
confined to statements of my views."
Not Asked Not to Run.
Asked about the story published in some
quarters that ex-Senator Jones, Oliver P.
Belmont and others came to him a day or
so ago and told him he was not the logi
cal candidate for the Democratic nomina
tion, urged him not to run and promised
to oppose him if their advice should be
disregarded, Mr. Bryan said:
"There Is not a shred of truth in that
story. No one has advised me not to be
a candidate. I saw Senator Jones an'
we did talk politics, but nothing of the
sort reported occurred.
"I have as yet had no formal confer
ence' since my arval in Washington
Tonight at a dinner at the home of Sena
tor Newlands. of Nevada, I shall meet and
confer with the first half of the Democrat
ic Senators on the alphabetical list. To-
morrow night I shall see the second half.
After that I go at once to Roanoke, near
where my daughter is attending school.'
Bryan, before leaving the" Capitol, die-
N5URANC
tated In response to a request the follow
ing interview1,- setting forth brieiiy nis
views on the financial situation:
Mr. Bryan on Financial Situation.
Lack of public confidence is what drives
money out of circulation. Restore public
confidence and money returns to Its ac
customed channels. For lack of confidence
the best remedy Is insurance of bank de
posits and I have urged upon the various
states end Congress the passage of some
measure similar to the law adopted by
Oklahoma. This provides for the creation.
of sT guaranty fund by assessments upon
banks in proportion to their deposits and
authorises the banking board to make such
assessments from time to time as may be
necessary to restore the guarantee fund
when It is lowered by the payment of money
to depositors of failed banks.
This permits the resources of all these
banks to be the resources of each bank and
insures each depositor against loss.
The Oklahoma statute permits National
banks to take advantage of the state law
and a National law should permit etste
banks to come under the provisions of that
law In states which have no guaranty sys
tem. Elastic Currency System.
As to-an elastic currency. I think pro
vision should be made for sufficient elas-
Governor M. R. Patterson, of Ten
nessee, Mho Confers With Railroad
Officials on Rate Question.
ticlty in times of emergency by a law pro
viding for the Issue of United States notes,
such notes to be loaned by the Govern
ment to banks upon adequate security and
at a rate of Interest which would compel
the retirement of the notes when the emer
gency Is over. I suppose nearly ail mem
bers of Congress and Senators favor some
provision for an . emergency currency. The
Democrats, as a rule, favor a system under
which the Government will- issue and con
trol the value of emergency currency, while
most Republicans fsvor some system under
which It would be- issued and controlled by
the banks; This presents the point In dis
pute between ,the two parties. The high
financiers have been largely responsible for
the present panic by reason of their reck
less methods and I am satisfied that a ma
jority of the people would preefr to risk the
Government, rather than risk these men.
Somebody must decide upon the needs of
the people. end so far as I am concerned
I prefer that the concessions be with the
public officers responsible to the public,
rather than with private Individuals, who
would be guided by their own Interests in
stead of by the interests of the public.
BRTAX DINES WITH SENATORS
Half Democratic Membership Meet 3
Him at Newlands Table.
WASHINGTON. Jan. 27. Senator
Newlands, of Nevada, grave a dinner to
night In honor of William J. Bryan,
who is a guest of the Senator at Wood
ley, his country residence. Thoee In
vited to the dinner were one-half of
the Democratic members of the Senate,
according to the alphabetical arrange
ment of names in the Congressional
directory.' Mr. Newlands has arranged
for a similar dinner tomorrow evening:,
when the other half of the Democratic
Senators will be invited.
The invited guests tonight were Sen
ators Bacon, Bailey. Bryan, Bankhead
Clark, Clay. Culberson, Daniel, Jeffer
son Davis, Foster, Frazler, Johnston
Latimer and McCreary. Senator Bailey,
of Texas, was not present.
Mr. Newlands said today that no po
litical significance attaches to the din
ner. He added, however, that Demo
cratic policies in matters of legislation
might be discussed.
AFTER .JUGGLED PROFITS
JIETROPOIITAN SECURITIES
COMPANY SUED.
Receivers of Xew Tork City Railroad
Company Want to Know What
Was Done With ?2, 707, 000.
NEW YORK, Jan. 27.- An order au
thorllng the receivers of the New-
York City Railroad Company to bring
Buit for t2.797.00J against the Metro.
politan Securities Company and 11 of
its former directors was issued today
by Judge Lacombe in the United
States Court. The directors named in
the suit are Thomas P. Fowler, Paul
T. Cravath, Edward J. Berwind, Georg
G. Haven, D. H. Vreeland, Edward
Sayre, Mbrtlmer L Schlff, Thomas F.
Ryan, P. A. B. Wldener, Thomas Dolan
and John D. Crimmins.
It iB alleged that the defendants,
nearly all of whom were directors o;
the New York City Railway Company
and Metropolitan Securities Company
at the same time, entered Into an 11
legal conspiracy whereby notes of the
New York City Railway Company were
sold to the Metropolitan Securities
Company at a discount of 30 per cent.
It is further alleged that the transac
tion was so juggled that the Metropoli
tan Securities Company derived a
profit of J2.797.000. It is of this sum
that the receivers of the New York
Citv Railway Company ask an account
ing. So Quorum; o Ballot.-
FRANKFORT, Ky., Jan. 27. No quorum
was present at the joint session of the
Legislature today and no ballot for Sena
tor was taken.
f' 4 if
I .gay
HENEY PROVES
HALL'S INACTION
Fulton's Clients Never
Brought to Trial.
NDIGTED ON PERJURY CHARGE1
But W. E. Burke and W. G.
Goslin Are Not Prosecuted.
BOTH HAMMOND AGENTS
Defense Protests Against Admission
of Evidence George Sorenson
Testifies That Hall Told
Him to "Stand In."
Senator Fulton was again dragged Into '
the conspiracy case of John H. Hall and
Edwin Mays yesterday by Special Prose
cutor Heney. By the testimony of W. ,
K. Burke and William G. Goslin, former
agents for A. B. (Hammond, timberland i
speculator, and at one time president of !
the Astoria & Columbia River Railroad, j
it was shown that late In 1S99 and dur-
Ing 1900 Fulton appeared as attorney j
for Burke and Goslin and two others,
who had been Indicted by Hall on a !
charge of conspiracy to defraud the Gov
ernment by perjury-
Burke and Goslin testified that in Sep
tember, 1899, they induced 20 transient '
male residents of the North End to file
on as many timberland claims for a :
consideration of 12 each for their serv
ices, with the express understanding that
the claims so filed on should be held for
t'rne and relinquished, when Burke
and Goslin, representatives of Hammond,
procured lieu land scrip to cover the land
included In the relinquishments. Only
the preliminary facts by which Fulton,
as attorney for Hammond and his
various Interests, will be associated with
this transaction were brought out in yes
terday's testimony, but Heney promises
by the introduction of further evidence
this-morning conclusively to prove not
only that Fulton appeared In a legal ca
pacity for the men indicted, but that
Hall, as United States Attorney, failed
to prosecute the alleged perjurers, al
though he had full knowledge of the un
lawful filings.
Moo res Identifies Letter.
In f this connection, C. B. Aloores,
former Register of the Oregon City Land
Office, where the fraudulent filings were
made, was called for the Government and
identified a letter he had written Hall
on October 12, 1899, In which he had
notified Hall of the apparent unlawful
character of the operations of Burke and
Goslin and their 20 entrymen. In the
letter Moores advised Hall that he,
Moores, had unofficial information that
each of the 20 men making the filings
had executed relinquishments, the in
ference being that the filings had been
made simply to hold the land until i
arrangements could be made for filing ;
what was known as lieu land scrip on'
the land. Further testimony will be in- :
troduced by the Government this morn
ing to establish its contention that while
Hall knew of the Illegal acts he never
prosecuted any of the offenders, and that
eventually the lndistment was dismissed
and the accused wire discharged.
George Sorenson, who has already been
convicted on one Indictment for land
frauds, and against whom four other
Indictments are pending, gave further
damaging testimony against Hall. He
told of a conversation with Hall In
which the District Attorney told him
that since he, Sorenson, Brownell and
others were implicated in the land
frauds, they had better "stand in"
and support Hall for reappointment.
Meldrum Not Allowed to Testily.
After having been brought back to
Portland from McNeil's Island as a wit
ness, Henry Meldrum was not permitted
to testify for the Government, Judge
Webster, for the defense, contending that
Meldrum was not a competent witness.
Meldrum's testimony was not regarded
of great Importance by Heney, who did
not Insist on resisting the objections of
the defense, preferring to excuse the
witness rather than to make a fatai
error by admitting the testimony. Mel
drum was expected to testify that he
had forged the signatures of George C.
Brownell, of Oregon City, to certain ap
plications for survey. It was these al
leged genuine signatures on which In
spector Greene had threatened to have
Brownell indicted and which served as
the basis for the intimidations of Hall
by which Brownell was forced to retire
from the race for appointment as Hall'a
successor In 1903.
If Heney expected to get many mate
rial admissions from Franklin Pierce
Mays, he was disappointed. Mays was
on the stand the greater part of yester
day forenoon and proved a 'champion
tnraatc.T." He nrofessed not to remem
ber dates and Incidents I with which he is
said to have been intimately connected.
His manner strained the patience of
Heney almost to the breaking point.
Among other things Heney had expected
i- i -,n iha witness was the admls-
w
sion that Mays and Hall had conspired
to get the Bar Association to aaopi
resolutions demanding the retirement of
Heney from a further prosecution of the
land frauds when they were first taken
up In order that some local man might
get the job. But in answer to such a
question. Mays maintained his didn't-
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