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About Morning Oregonian. (Portland, Or.) 1861-1937 | View Entire Issue (Oct. 7, 1903)
t I IE AlUKtfltftf OKEGOtflAN, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 7, 1903. HE PEOPLE i REGARDING OUR CLOAK STORE An apology is dne the hundreds of women we were enable to serve yesterday in the cloak store. We were what you could term "Snowed under." In face of the fact that onr facilities have been increased almost to the limit we are still unable to serve everyone with promptness and the degree of satisfaction we desire. We hope before another season rolls 'round to find some method to enlarge the cloak store to meet your requirements. In the meantime the best reme dy seems to be to try and do your cloak baying during the morning hours, at which time you are assured of prompt and proper attention. Ninety-three employes in this cloak store today striving to serve you best. Before buying it is to your interest to look over the magnificent line of stylish, up-to-date garments now on display here. MAIN SUB-STATION U.S.POSTOFFICE (Rear Main Floor ) Stamps, Money Orders, Letters and Packages Registered Why Forest Reserves Have Been Created, MR. PINGHOT GIVES REASON Head of Forestry Bureau Ex plains Policy. SENATOR FULTON DISAGREES lie "Want Timber Cut Off Reserves, 3Ir. Pinchot Wants It Saved for People of District Reserves Are for People's Use. Mr. Pinchot presented tho matter of forest reserves as Jt Is viewed by the Government. The purpose of these re serves, he said, la to produce the great est possible benefit to the greatest number vitally affected. "Withdrawals of land are made merely for the purpose of determining this matter of their relative worth. It Is the public policy and the Idea of the Government to give the Individual preference over tho corporation; to dis criminate In favor of the "little man" as against the "big man." Reserves are not made, he said, where it is ' not to the beat welfare of the state and community that they should be made. Senator Fulton takes Issues with Mr. Pinchot as to the manner in which re serves should be maintained by the Government. V Forest reserves, their 1)0001118 to the country, their scope and the policy of the Government relating: to them were the subject of an exhaustive discourse by Sifford Pinchot, Chief of the United States Bureau of Forestry, last evening-. More than 100 persons, among them many prominent citizens, gathered at the A. O. U.VW. Hall and listened to Mr. Pinch ot's definition of reserves from the Gov ernment's point of view. And when the speaker had concluded ho was subject ed to a rapid-flre fusillade of questions bearing on the subject. One of the questioners was Senator Ful ton, chairman of the meeting, who open ly took ls6ue with Mr. Pinchot as to one .of the details of managing the reserves. An extensive argument followed, in which both men aired their views relating to the manner in which tho Government should control these reserves. Mr. Pinchot was of the opinion that tree-cutting should not be allowed on the reserves, while Senator Fulton took the stand that it should be allowed. It was his conten tion that the -6Cope of the Government's control should be confined merely to ownership of the land after it had been despoiled of Its timber, thus to father further growth, where the land was not more suited to agricultural purposes. Mr. Pinchot argued that such a policy would only clear a path for the mercenary trusts to enter in and would bo to the disadvantage of Individuals as such. The argument concluded without either speaker being converted to the point of view of the other in this respect. Senator Fulton Takes Exception. "When the meeting was called to order shortly after S o'clock, Senator Fulton was named as chairman. The Senator made a few Introductory remarks before introducing the speaker of the evening, saying that there seemed to be a misun derstanding as to the purposes and bene fits of forest reserves. He declared that there is no greater resource in the State of Oregon than her great forests and that for that reason tho matter was one of vital interest to the citizens of the state, While not opposed to forest reserves, Sen ator Fulton said he is very much opposed to certain details governing them. Of course, if it was the Intention of tho Gov ernment to make permanent reserves out of the present withdrawals, he would be very much opposed to such extensive re serves as Included about one-fourth of the area of the state, but he understood it to be the Intention of the Government to make the withdrawals merely tempo rary pending an investigation of their greatest value. Mr. Pinchot was greeted with a hearty (.round, of applause when presented to the meeting. "I want to say to begin with," said he. " that the key-noto of Xorest re serves is use. The creation of reserves is based on that one thing use. "What is their relative value to what are the lands best suited? The object of the reserves is to adapt the lands to their best use. The President has" stated this fact from time to time by saying that the object of forest reserves is the making and main taining of prosperous homes. Reserves Are for tlie Nation. "The object of the reserve, its essence," continued Mr. Pinchot, "is quite the same as the object of the National irriga tion law, for, as the President has stated, the success of the home-maker is the success of the Nation. "I have found all through the "West that there is considerable objection to these reserves and the complaint is based, for the most part, on the enormous limits. People appear to have the idea that these withdrawals for investigation purposes are permanent. "Now, there is one important thing to consider in the making of reserves, and that is the dominant industry of the re gion, and the reserves are made to de velop and assist that Industry with as little injury as possible to smaller Indus tries. Take the Black Hills reserve in Dakota, for example. Here the protests against proposed reserves were fierce when the proposal was first made. But later the same men who had been so bit ter against the reserves aro petitioning for theso same reserves. "Why? Because, for the main -part, the chief industry of that region is mining. The country Is moro valuablo for its ores than for its tim ber, because there is 'more of the ore and tho miners must protect the timber fnr their mines. They flad there Is bare- GIFFORD PINCHOT, CHIEF ly enough for their purposes, and It must be protected. I believe the same thing will apply here in Oregon in tho J Blue Mountain district. Will Not Cripple Lumber Trade. "As to the lumber Industry of ' the state, If the creation of reserves will cripple that industry. I do not favor them. I do not favor them, nor does the Government, if they are not going to be of value to the people of tho district, and where the creation of a reserve is not for the best Interests of the great est number affected they should not be created. To determine these points we have competent men at work making the fullest and most complete Investigations. "All land," continued Mr. Pinchot, "should be put to the greatest possible use. I want the land of this state that will contribute moro to the welfare of the state by growing trees to be kept growing trees. It is one of the essen tial and vital parts in tho Idea of forest reserves that every bit of land shall be put to the greatest possible use. "Leaving for a moment the question of use of reserves, I wish to say that there are a number of objections to some of the methods of control that ought to be met. "When tho lieu land law went Into effect, it wasn't foreseen that land would be used by other than legitimate set tlers. I regret to say that it has come to be used by corporations of various kinds for the purpose of getting hold of large tracts of land. Efforts are being made to have this land withdrawn, for the Government wishes the bona fide settler to get the fruits, and the -seizures by corporations are'' against tho policy of the Government. "WitliclravralH Only Temporary. "Now, taking up tho question of with drawals, ta which, no doubt, you are all very much interested at- this time, I will state that the object of any with drawal of land from entry Is merely to set such land asldo pending examina tion sby the Government to determine for what purposes the land is best adapted. There is no question but that the. Gov ernment will ultimately be forced to pay out mlllons of dollars to reclaim lands that have been taken up along the course of Immense water-sheds. That is why we aro now making a careful examina tion of all lands to determine their greatest use. It is on the basis of great est use and benefit to the greatest num ber that we will decide. "This law prohibiting the exportation of timber from one state to another .seems to me to be very foolish. I don't believe the Government should say what dispo sition shall be made of timber onco It has been cut. That Is a matter 1 concerning the state in question, and does not appear to mo to be a matter for the Government's attention. "It Is a fact, and a very unfortunate one," asserted Mr. Pinchot, "that the mat ter of establishing reserves is misunder stood in many parts. However, from the Investigations I have made, I find that thoso most vigorous in their protests against reserves are those living at a dis tance rather than thoso living In the dis tricts that are affected. I made a personal trip at one time through the country em braced In the Yellowstone reserve In "Wy oming, and found that the settlers, with few exceptions, favored tho reserve, which was quite remarkable in view of the pro tests that had been made on the outside. People generally aro beginning to broaden out In their views on the matter, but It is a fact that it was a question at first Drawn from life by Lute Pease. OF THE FORESTRY BUREAU. whether there were to be any reserves in the country at all. Will Not Decide on Theory. "Now," continued Mr. Pinchot, earnest ly, "don't let us mistake temporary mis management in the administration of re serves for arguments against tho reserves themselves. Of these details I will not deal at the present time. And I won't take up your time by going Into the de tails of grazing and water. I will merely say that we have studied out all these questions, and they have not been, and will not be, decided on theory, but by expert men of broad experience in forestry who have made personal and extensive Investigations. "In conclusion, I will say that the ob ject of reserves is use, and nothing more. And it Is the permanent use that Is taken into account, tho permanent use to the people Hying In the region." Mr. Pinchot announced, when the ap plause had subsided, that he was willing to answer any questions that might be asked. In answer to a question as to tho purpose of the Western Oregon reserves, .Mr. Pinchot said that It is the Idea of the Government to keep these timber lands productive: to keep land that ought to be producing timber for the good of the com munity. "I care nothing for the preservation of trees as trees, but rather of forests as forests," he said. "We hope In time to be able to educate private owners so that .their forests will be safe in their own hands." Senator Fulton Takes Issue. Senator Fulton here made himself heard. "In Western Oregon," said, the Senator, "I don't think any reserves should bo planned except In this sense: That the Government retain the land but allow1 the timber to "be cut I 'believe the law should be altered so that tho Government can control land after the timber has been cut. Ours is a young state. We look to Umber for our commerce la a large measure. The Government should ' not Interfere except to retain the "ground and regulate tho new growth after tho timber has been cut. That is, with tho exception of such lands as are more 'fit for agricultural purposes. Thero is much land that, as soon as the timber has been cut, becomes more val uable for farming and dairying purposes. Against Blsr Corporations. "I quite agreo with you in that last respect," said Mr, .Pinchot, "but the only effect of your first proposition would be to. place billions of feet of lumber in the hands of great corporations. And that is against the public policy. Tho Government wants the little man to get the benefits as against the big man. Dis crimination. Is made in favor of the little man. It is for his welfare that the Gov ernment is .looking, and he gets first choice and consideration. It is a strict Government policy that the little man shall have the advantage over the big man." ' x Mr. Pinchot, after being Introduced to those who remained after the close of tho meeting, was escorted to 'the depot, where he took, the late train for Fort Sheridan, Wyo., where he will continue his labors of inspection and explanation of the workings of his bureau. Among those "present at tho meeting who were 'introduced to the speaker were Repre sentative Williamson, W. M. Ladd, ex Congressman Malcolm A. Moody, Ralph Moody, Professor Lake, of the Agricul tural College,. D. JL . Dunne, B. S. Pague, E. P. Sheldon and Senator Fulton. Mr. Pinchot was entertained at dinner earlier in the evening "at tho Arlington ..Meier Frank Company.. "Shopping Center of the Northwest." Don't buy a Cookstove, Steel Range or Wood Heater until you have carefully examined the "Peninsular" line. Custom Shade Work a specialty Best materials and workmanship Orders promptly executed Third Floor. . New importation of Japanese Goods Cloisonne Ware, Bronze Novelty Pieces, etc. Basement. Regular Price Sale Price $7.25 Soup Tureens $5.68 $4.25 Butter Dishes . . $3.39 $8.00 3-pc. Water Sets. . .$6.23 $9.00 4-pc. Coffee Sets . .$7.19 $6.75 4-pc. Tea Set $4.98 $8.75 3-pc. Tea Sets $6.75 $3.75 Cake Baskets $2.83 BLACK SILKS Black Silks of merit All the standard grades are priced at rock bottom. Trustworthy silks which will give satisfactory serv ice. "Cheap" silks are expens ive at any price. 20-inch Black Taffeta, per yard 67c 22-inch Black Taffeta, per yard - ?6c 24-inch Black Taffeta, per yard 85c 36-inch Black Taffeta, per yard $1.05 36-inch Black Taffeta, per yard $1.39 $1.25 Peau de Sole, per yard 98c $1.50 Peau de Soie, per yard $1.29 $1.75 Peau de Soie, per yard $1.39 Compare our qualities and prices No question where you will buy. it WARM It's time to think of warm clothing All the warm things are here and priced at economy point Flannel Night $j Sacqises 69c Ladies' fancy striped Outing Flannel Gowns, trimmed, braided yoke, also plain col ors with silk stitching and frogs, $1.50 val- d ue, each Fancy striped Outing Flannel Gowns, tucked yoke, full length, great special value at the low price of, feQ Children's Outing Flannel "Gowns, solid colors, Mother Hubbard yoke, 1 to 6 years, 58c each; 8 to 14 years, 69c. Special Values in Ladies' Knit Underwear. Meier &. Frank Company Club, where his hosts were: Judge C. B. Bellinger, W. M. Ladd, A. L. Mills, R. Livingston, W. B. Ayer, B. Bross and M. A. Moody. FEAST IN THE BOOTH. Old-Fashioned Celebration, of Taber nacle N'ctt Temple Proposed. At. Ahavl Sholom Synagogue last night was celebrated a typical Sukkoth, or feast of the tabernacle, at the conclusion of an eloauent sermon by Rev. Dr. Levlne. The text selected by Dr. Levlne for this second day of the festival was a saying of the rabbis, taken from the Talmud: "Whoso ever observes the festival of Sukkoth by building the booth and dwelling tnereln has the special approbation of God." The meaning of signs and symbols pertaining j to matters religious was dwelt upon and tho great Importance of observing the var ious festivals and religious holidays of tho year pointed out. Their historical and bib lical significance, said Dr. Levlne, should ! be Impressed upon the minds of the young as well as the old and their Influence upon everybody life noted. The tabernaclo or booth In which this festival of Sukkoth is held must be out In tho open air, with a shelter of only branches. Inasmuch as the children of Is rael, when dwelling in the wilderness, had no other covering than this. The long, arbor-like booth of evergreens and fruit made a beauUful frame or background for October Silyerware Sale STARTS TODAY An event of immense importance to the thrifty housewife Thousands of desirable pieces in all lines at surprisingly low prices. All sorts of dainty silverware, the newest shapes and patterns will be found included. The schedule of pricing tells. an interesting story and one that should create the liveliest kind of buying in the Basement Silverware Store. Anticipate your needs today. Regular Price Sale Price $4.75 Sauce Boats $3.38 $1.90 Tobacco Jars $1.49 $1.25 Shaving Mugs 88c 25c Children's Rings 18c Nut Bowls, glass top 33c Great variety of novelty pieces at special prices Basemt. RUGS this collection.. It's the largest and best ever brought to immediately interest you. Third Floor. THINGS" Five hundred Eiderdown Dressing Sacques in pink, blue, red, gray and laven der, crocheted edge, silk bound collar, silk frogs or ribbon ties, all sizes, best styles, regular $1.00 gJto value 9K0 $1.75 and $2.00 Sacques at $1.19. each Figured and Flaked Eiderdown Dressing Sacques, best qual ity, silk bound, all the best colors, red, blue, pink and gray, silk frogs, all sizes, the regular $1.75, i 1Q $2.00 values P Meier & Frank Company the tables laden with the feast. The full moon and the stars could be seen between the boughs, in strong contrast with the lights of- the many candles. There were seats for about 200, and numbers of those who could not obtain seats at the table stood behind the chairs, these being most ly young folks. It was a,bcautlrul and Jmpresslve pic ture, and after a short grace chanted by the pastor, Rev. Dr. Abrahamson, good na ture and cheer reigned supreme at the board and this congregation was for the time being one big family. Huge loaves of bread, especially prepared for the occa sion, were sliced by the rabbi, and each partook of a piece. The table fairly groaned, under its load of cake, fruit and wine, -and all ate heartily, with merry conversation and expressions of satisfac tion over the general prosperity of the year. As the feast drew to a close, the president of the congregation called for short talks from various prominent mem bers, tho lirst being Dr. Levlne, who ad dressed the assembly In well-chosen re marks. Mr. D. Soils Cohen followed with expressions of thanksgiving for the pros perity, enjoyed by all and touchingly com pared the enviable position of the Jew here with that of their unfortunate broth ers In Russia.. At the conclusion of his re marks Mr. Phillip Selling responded to President Gilbert's call and' very cleverly got out of a long speech by offering to head a subscription for a new temple, which this congregation has long desired, with a very substantial sum, for which he was vigorously applauded and than&ed. in .Meier Frank Company., "Shopping Center of the Northwest." Rogers "1847" Sale Pricat Teaspoons, set of 6 98c Tablespoons, set of 6 $1.99 Medium Forks, set of 6.. $1.99 Sugar Shells, each 37c Salt and Peppers, pair 15c Napkin Rings, each 36c CBASEMENT.) FROM THE All the lovers of Oriental Rugs will be at tracted to our Third-Floor Carpet Store by the showing of beautiful specimens we have just gathered. Rugs from the Orient direct to the Meier &. Frank Store. Collected by the personal representative of a purchasing or ganization we are members of a rug expert of forty years' experience. They come to you from first hands and are marked at the lowest possible prices. There's 1 50 beautiful speci mens of undoubted antiquity gathered from the remotest corners of the Orient. But even to those who value them more as articles of merchandise than objects of art, which they are, their beauty is fascinating. There's Kazaks, Shirans, Persians, Bokharas, Dagha stans', Shiraz, Anatolian Silk Rugs, Hall Runners, Kirmans, etc. y We want you to see THE SHOE SALE Our splendid shoe bargains make the eagle scream. There's no shoe in town equal to - the famous French, Shrlner & Urner and J. & T. Cousins' make. The spirited buying is sufficient proof that you know their good qualities. We're of fering the newest Fall styles for ladles and men at a big saving Just to make new friends for our shoe store. Ladies' $5.00 Shoes at $3.90 Per Pair The famous J. & T. Cousins' Shoes for women; all the newest Fall styles, in cluding patent calf heavy-sole walking boots, lace or button styles, all sizes and widths; patent kid lace, heavy-welt sole, high leather heel; vlci kid lace shoes. French heel, patent tip, all sizes; vicl kid lace shoes, French heel, patent tip, turn sole; French Shrlner & Urner and J. & T. Cousins' $5.00 styles at only J3.S0 per pair. Men's $6.00 and $6.50 Shoes $4.95 Per Pair Men's high-grade Dress Shoes, patent leather, plain toe, light sole, latest full dress shoes. 55.50 value at $4.95 pair. Mirror Patent Kid, Blucher, medium sole, $6.00 shoe at $4.95 pair. Patent horse, double-sole, viscollzed sole, enamel styles, double sole, all the newest Fall and Winter styles, J6.0O and $6.50 values, $4.95 pair. Men's $5.00 French, Shrlner & "Urner Shoes, patent kid. patent horse, enamel and box calf, lace and blucher styles, all new desirable goods, remarkable value at $1.20 pair. Meier & Frank Company an earnest and eloquent manner by Dr. Abrahamson. Other speakers, were Messrs. L. H. Lewis, Isaac Swett, I. Dau toff and Alexander Bernstein, all of whom encouraged the proposal to build a new templ.e before another Sukkoth. There will be another feast after serv ices this morning, and another on the con cluding day of the festival, next Tuesday. WOOL BATTING Carded at the Woolen Mill, and Used for Comfort. The Brownsville Woolen Mills have made a hit with their new carding ma chine, and people from all over Oregon, "Washington and California are sending orders for carded wool. It makes a finer comfort than silk floss, and is much less in price. One thousand packages are now on sale at a special price of 75c per pound at the "Woolen Mills Store, on "Washington street, between First and Second. Troops at Camp Yonnjr Take a neat. CAMP YOUNG, West Point, Ky.. Oct. 6. After two days of marching and counter marching in the driving rain, culminating in an engagement of respectable propor tions, and a long march back to their base through the mud, the state troops greeted with cheers" this morning tho 'an nouncement that there would be no work save light drill In camp today. During the course of yesterday's maneu vers, ttxe tine, biidjWQQmpJlshdpracUjaJIy ROgerS !'1847" Sale Price. Cream Ladles 69c $1.25 Berry Spoons 89c 75c Cold Meat Forks 59c 60c Beef Forks 49c 90c Jelly Knives 73c Fruit Knives, set of 6 . . . .$1.23 Butter Knives, each 39c ORIENT town and the low pricing will Meier & Frank Company a full day's march of 15 miles, and part . ui tucui jn iii.-iiju.(.i:u m uiu wurtt UI1 UflO ; firing line besides. Consequently, many of tne guards or tne company awoke stiff and sore. The regulars took the announce ment of a day oft In a more restrained fashion and set quietly to work polish ing up for the division review tomorrow, in which 10,000 men will take part. EVENINGS ARE COLD. Time of Year Yon Can Enjoy the Comforts of Home. These damp, cool evenings we would suggest you exchange your damp shoes when you get home for a warm pair of moccasins such as sold from one dollar up by the B. B. Rich curio store on Sixth and Washington streets, over the B. B. Rich cigar store. The entrance Is on Sixth street. Open evenings. Bvf.iy CI I I, ,r